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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The government want to ban trail shifts. Been a chef this is common practice. I also think it's good for both parties. Sometimes I haven't done one and if I had probably wouldn't have taken the job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you mean "trial" shifts. I scratched my head for a few seconds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think you mean "trial" shifts. I scratched my head for a few seconds "

Same here

But yeah they should be banned as it is total exploitation in my opinion..

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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To be honest I didn't know anything about this until seeing it on the news today. It seems some are using this to fill in for staff being off ill.

If it is a couple of hours trial maybe no to being paid but for a whole shift I think they should be paid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I didn't know anything about this until seeing it on the news today. It seems some are using this to fill in for staff being off ill.

If it is a couple of hours trial maybe no to being paid but for a whole shift I think they should be paid"

You may have seen the same as me on the news... and when it comes to young girls being left alone in a nursery for a full shift under the guise of a trial..I feel the whole practice needs to stop as it smacks of exploitation to me..

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By *hips n FursMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield

My mates just done one,afterwards he was offered the job. The guy who was dealing with him said,at last someone who can back their words up with action. In other words he didn't spout bullshit just to get the job.

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By *lla_maiWoman
over a year ago

staffordshire

We done trial shifts in seversl of the places ive worked and impo i think its a good tool for both parties.

Someone who does well in an interview doesnt necessarily practically. It also gives those who arent as confident at interviews a chance, sometimes you just get a sense that theyll fit in and be a good worker.

It also gives the potentially employee an insight to what its like working in the setting. Um my experience often resulting in i didnt realise how much there was to do or how busy it was.

Trials i have seen have usually been 1 or 2 hours.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"To be honest I didn't know anything about this until seeing it on the news today. It seems some are using this to fill in for staff being off ill.

If it is a couple of hours trial maybe no to being paid but for a whole shift I think they should be paid

You may have seen the same as me on the news... and when it comes to young girls being left alone in a nursery for a full shift under the guise of a trial..I feel the whole practice needs to stop as it smacks of exploitation to me.."

I am not sure a blanket ban is the right way to go, sometimes showing that you can actually do the job is a good thing as you may be rubbish at the interview.

I don't think it should go on for hours with the person doing the job of someone else and not being observed should be allowed though.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Internships more so apprenticeships are very similar. An employer can hire college students one for one employee/apprentice without any route to employment and without any educational programme in place. They can have them undertake office duties they would have to pay office staff a higher wage for under the premise of work experience and at the end of the academic term advise 'there is no placement' or 'you are not suited', yet start the programme again the next year. The placement supervisors that visit the employer are just happy they have placed someone with an employer as if they have hit a target, not vetting any skills training or programmes the employer might offer and visiting only occasionally throughout the year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be honest I didn't know anything about this until seeing it on the news today. It seems some are using this to fill in for staff being off ill.

If it is a couple of hours trial maybe no to being paid but for a whole shift I think they should be paid

You may have seen the same as me on the news... and when it comes to young girls being left alone in a nursery for a full shift under the guise of a trial..I feel the whole practice needs to stop as it smacks of exploitation to me..

I am not sure a blanket ban is the right way to go, sometimes showing that you can actually do the job is a good thing as you may be rubbish at the interview.

I don't think it should go on for hours with the person doing the job of someone else and not being observed should be allowed though."

I can understand a couple of hours by a small business to get the right person.

But as with all things were there is a hole in the law...I feel big businesses latch on to it and exploit this...and some small business owners.

So for me I hope they put a blanket ban on this...as what will it cost the small employer to continue this...only around 15 quid for a two hour trial..just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I went into a restaurant & ordered from the menu just for a 'trial', I wonder what the management would say then?

Who brought in this law in the first place?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I went into a restaurant & ordered from the menu just for a 'trial', I wonder what the management would say then?

Who brought in this law in the first place?"

I'm not too sure...I would think it came in through the back door when the present government brought in the 30 hours per week for people to work for their benefits...could be wrong...see link to a article that sparked this off

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/unpaid-work-trials-snp-mp-stewart-mcdonald-private-members-bill-ban-mooboo-bubble-tea-a7843266.html

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they are a great idea. People are a lot different in interviews than hands on. They get to see everyone they will be working with and after a few hours people ease into a job and the nerves go. You get to see more of their personality. You can train someone for a job but can't change someones personality x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they are a great idea. People are a lot different in interviews than hands on. They get to see everyone they will be working with and after a few hours people ease into a job and the nerves go. You get to see more of their personality. You can train someone for a job but can't change someones personality x"

Thats all well and good...but why can't the employer pay for this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they are a great idea. People are a lot different in interviews than hands on. They get to see everyone they will be working with and after a few hours people ease into a job and the nerves go. You get to see more of their personality. You can train someone for a job but can't change someones personality x

Thats all well and good...but why can't the employer pay for this?"

I just see it as part of the employment process. Like an extention of the interview x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they are a great idea. People are a lot different in interviews than hands on. They get to see everyone they will be working with and after a few hours people ease into a job and the nerves go. You get to see more of their personality. You can train someone for a job but can't change someones personality x

Thats all well and good...but why can't the employer pay for this?

I just see it as part of the employment process. Like an extention of the interview x"

I see it as free labour.

Who'd want to work for a tight ass company anyway?

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