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By *ustfunandgames OP Man
over a year ago

st Albans / NSA fantasy fun

Do you think the England football team should not go to Russia

In protest to the attack ?

The royal family representing England football team in Russia should they go ?

Royal family NO

England football team YES

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Do you think the England football team should not go to Russia

In protest to the attack ?

The royal family representing England football team in Russia should they go ?

Royal family NO

England football team YES "

Neither, it really is a total outrage what they've done.

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By *ustfunandgames OP Man
over a year ago

st Albans / NSA fantasy fun

"Do you think the England football team should not go to Russia

In protest to the attack ?

The royal family representing England football team in Russia should they go ?

Royal family NO

England football team YES

Neither, it really is a total outrage what they've done.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Id say it's not safe for them .... They would only have to offend someone , the russians are very strict ...

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I am going to Russia

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

Neither

Just remember Hitler used the Berlin Olympics for his own propaganda . Putin is sly.send him a message .Russia should not have been given this world cup

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the whole tournament should boycott Russia for the way it is behaving at the moment.

The world cup organisers must have a back up plan... time to use it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keep politics out of sport

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"I think the whole tournament should boycott Russia for the way it is behaving at the moment.

The world cup organisers must have a back up plan... time to use it!"

Yes I agree, Putin is getting so dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I feel that the poisoning should have been classified and kept top secret from the public.

This incident has scared the crap out of me way more than any terrorist act

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

No and No .. Fuck the Russians up the ass !!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Think we might not get a choice now we've kicked out their ambassadors

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They might as well go, it's not like they'll be there long anyway.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"Think we might not get a choice now we've kicked out their ambassadors"

Think we might not get a choice if Southgate persists with Joe Hart

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By *nd-DCouple
over a year ago

portsmouth

"They might as well go, it's not like they'll be there long anyway.

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"Personally I feel that the poisoning should have been classified and kept top secret from the public.

This incident has scared the crap out of me way more than any terrorist act"

Why don’t we go and show them who’s boss like we did in Afghanistan and Iraq, aparantly they committed terror attacks against us and saddam hussein had chemical weapons... oh no let’s actually just boycott the World Cup lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I feel that the poisoning should have been classified and kept top secret from the public.

This incident has scared the crap out of me way more than any terrorist act"

Hard to keep it secret when they were found twitching and drooling on a park bench!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it means we have to watch less football so be it

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"If it means we have to watch less football so be it

Dangerous thoughts

Perhaps the UK should not screen any of it. And teams owned by Russian money should fall out of the Champions league etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think we should go.

And to be honest, i feel like this whole situation is showing us up to be a weak Country.

I know you have to be diplomatic in the interests of not starting off a War etc., but honestly i feel like there’s large feet hanging over our Country ready to squash us whenever they want and apart from a feeble attempt at pushing them off, in the grand scheme of things, we’d be fucked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its the supporters that should be concerned, here are well trained Russian thugs specifically looking for English fans, I certainly would not advise taking kids along.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I feel that the poisoning should have been classified and kept top secret from the public.

This incident has scared the crap out of me way more than any terrorist act

Hard to keep it secret when they were found twitching and drooling on a park bench!"

True but all the authorities needed to do was pop a couple of cans of larger near them and people would have thought they were pissed up eastern Europeans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am going to Russia

Brave guy! Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm concerned about the fans, them ruskies are bad bastards. Put alcohol in the mix. Murder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Under the circumstances it's hardly worth going for 3 games.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they should go, but the fans shouldnt, as it is not safe for them there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was in St.Petersburg a couple of weeks ago for Celtics game and didn't feel safe at all, was a very uneasy experience. I hope all England fans who do travel to Russia keep safe

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By *ornynorthantsMan
over a year ago

northampton

We should stay home just to save the ignominy of getting sent home after failing to get through the group stage anyway.

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By *ornynorthantsMan
over a year ago

northampton

"Personally I feel that the poisoning should have been classified and kept top secret from the public.

This incident has scared the crap out of me way more than any terrorist act

Because they have a decent army, no chance of nicking their oil and nuclear weapons and a dangerous dispot in charge

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

No evidence Russia has done anything of course.

You really believe our government and media after the WMD dossier and the illegal invasion of Iraq?

Ask yourself why there is anti Russian propaganda at present then look at America and Israel and the fundemental fact that war is more profitable and peace.

I posted a very long referenced post in the politics forum yesterday explaining in detail why none of the Novichok story actually makes any sense. Google for Craig Murray's blog if you want to read it in full.

But please don't go just accepting what the government (and their mouthpiece media) tells you as being true; they are just giving you the agenda they want you to believe.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

It is alleged the Russians did it. I think Putin is a dangerous man and capable of anything, but I'd rather proof of guilt. After we were told Saddam bad weapons of mass destruction when be didn't.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I'm not really a fan of Boycotts but the safety of the team and fans has to be considered.

Unless the climate improves over the next month or two then I think, sadly, the FA should pull the team out.

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By *ccasionalfunCouple
over a year ago

hereandthere

England should pull out

Other countries will follow.

Most corrupt fucked up country . The fiasco of the even getting the w.c is a load of bollocks

All athletes are on state funded drugs which they are constantly creating to beat the Wada and doping boards

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not really a fan of Boycotts but the safety of the team and fans has to be considered.

Unless the climate improves over the next month or two then I think, sadly, the FA should pull the team out.

Ditto on the boycott, I think the Russians will ensure the safety of the team and any fans in the stadium's as to not do so would have consequences for any future sports events etc..

Putting aside this use of nerve agent and how it's going to play out up to the world Cup between the UK and Russia based purely on the organised attacks on anyone supporting England in France at the euros by far right groups from Russia I genuinely fear for any England supporters going to the tournament..

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By *igblackdomTV/TS
over a year ago

West Midlands

"Keep politics out of sport"

If only sport was kept out of politics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scottish guy here , no matter what has happened , I think any English fan going to Russia will need to be on their toes because of the fan problem they have in Russia.... this poisoning thing may inflame things morecabs make the fans more of a target

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If it means we have to watch less football so be it

Dangerous thoughts

Perhaps the UK should not screen any of it. And teams owned by Russian money should fall out of the Champions league etc "

Less flappy flags on cars

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By *ranfondoMan
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

"No evidence Russia has done anything of course.

You really believe our government and media after the WMD dossier and the illegal invasion of Iraq?

Ask yourself why there is anti Russian propaganda at present then look at America and Israel and the fundemental fact that war is more profitable and peace.

But please don't go just accepting what the government (and their mouthpiece media) tells you as being true; they are just giving you the agenda they want you to believe."

Like my pal said....he also said a) Russia had destroyed all chemical weapons a few years ago under supervision too b) Porton Down is 6 miles from Salisbury c) we find now the government is giving Porton Down a huge boost...ironic that...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Russian hooligans targeting the English is alot down to how the English behaved over the years in international football. I know now hooligans don't follow the national team anymore but the Russians are living in the past and think they're gunna get a good fight off the English fans when that's not the case anymore. I don't think it's a case of hatred it's just that these hooligans fancy a fight and England had a terrible reputation years ago for having fans that fancied a fight.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The Russian hooligans targeting the English is alot down to how the English behaved over the years in international football. I know now hooligans don't follow the national team anymore but the Russians are living in the past and think they're gunna get a good fight off the English fans when that's not the case anymore. I don't think it's a case of hatred it's just that these hooligans fancy a fight and England had a terrible reputation years ago for having fans that fancied a fight. "

Agree totally..

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

Agree totally..

I agree in part . But I think it goes a lot deeper than just English hooliganism .

Most of the Russian games and teams have a hard line core of followers that fight and organise fights each week before and after games .

I think we should boycott the World Cup and I feel most of Europe would follow ... this would hit Russia hard not only financially but also as a country .

Putin needs a kick in the nuts , especially as he is currently campaigning for re-election ,,,, tho against who ,, I’m not sure?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree totally..

I agree in part . But I think it goes a lot deeper than just English hooliganism .

Most of the Russian games and teams have a hard line core of followers that fight and organise fights each week before and after games .

I think we should boycott the World Cup and I feel most of Europe would follow ... this would hit Russia hard not only financially but also as a country .

Putin needs a kick in the nuts , especially as he is currently campaigning for re-election ,,,, tho against who ,, I’m not sure? "

Honestly I don't think any country will follow suit if they do. The USA would have loved to boycott but they didn't make it

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

Agree totally..

I agree in part . But I think it goes a lot deeper than just English hooliganism .

Most of the Russian games and teams have a hard line core of followers that fight and organise fights each week before and after games .

I think we should boycott the World Cup and I feel most of Europe would follow ... this would hit Russia hard not only financially but also as a country .

Putin needs a kick in the nuts , especially as he is currently campaigning for re-election ,,,, tho against who ,, I’m not sure?

Honestly I don't think any country will follow suit if they do. The USA would have loved to boycott but they didn't make it

You could be right . Guess that stems from our colonial past and our interference across the world

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

The "hooligans" won't be allowed to travel. "Normal" supporters will die I'm afraid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They'll only be there for a week anyway, - historically averaging as 10 day wonders! .

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By *wo4FemCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Do you think the England football team should not go to Russia

In protest to the attack ?

The royal family representing England football team in Russia should they go ?

Royal family NO

England football team YES "

Royal family should go and so should the England football team.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Americans did the poisoning just to try to create a war like they did when they blew up the world trade centre and other buildings.

Mr2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The earth is flat .....

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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He needs Putin in his place

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By *tuntmuffinMan
over a year ago

BIRMINGHAM

"No and No .. Fuck the Russians up the ass !!"

But with or without lube??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree totally..

I agree in part . But I think it goes a lot deeper than just English hooliganism .

Most of the Russian games and teams have a hard line core of followers that fight and organise fights each week before and after games .

I think we should boycott the World Cup and I feel most of Europe would follow ... this would hit Russia hard not only financially but also as a country .

Putin needs a kick in the nuts , especially as he is currently campaigning for re-election ,,,, tho against who ,, I’m not sure? "

"Most of Europe will follow" , - ever heard of Brexit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He needs Putin in his place "

*high fives* you’re on form today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We should go, politics do not belong in sport. The boycott of South Africa was due to human rights, this is not.

Let the fans go mingle with the Russian people and you'll find that they are a warm, friendly and surprisingly funny. Don't let insane leaders (including our own) define a nation.

I went to Arkhangelsk to visit the Arctic Convoy cemetery and found it still well maintained and the locals friendly and still thankful of what British and American sailors did to help Russia in WW2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He needs Putin in his place

*high fives* you’re on form today

I won't be russian to the World Cup now .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He needs Putin in his place

*high fives* you’re on form today

I won't be russian to the World Cup now .....

not bad!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He needs Putin in his place

*high fives* you’re on form today

I won't be russian to the World Cup now .....

not bad!"

terrible really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He needs Putin in his place

*high fives* you’re on form today

I won't be russian to the World Cup now .....

not bad!

terrible really

Well you’re no Steve Coogan but it made me smile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Keep politics out of sport"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He needs Putin in his place

*high fives* you’re on form today

I won't be russian to the World Cup now .....

not bad!

terrible really

Well you’re no Steve Coogan but it made me smile

Ah Haaaaaaaa!

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By *icegentglosMan
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I think the whole tournament should boycott Russia for the way it is behaving at the moment.

The world cup organisers must have a back up plan... time to use it!"

The organisers are FIFA right ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Keep politics out of sport

Keep football out of politics (FIFA)

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I think the whole tournament should boycott Russia for the way it is behaving at the moment.

The world cup organisers must have a back up plan... time to use it!

The organisers are FIFA right ???"

Yup..

maybe get blatter back in to sort things out..

FIFA, similar in corrupt practises to the IOC..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the whole tournament should boycott Russia for the way it is behaving at the moment.

The world cup organisers must have a back up plan... time to use it!

The organisers are FIFA right ???

Yup..

maybe get blatter back in to sort things out..

FIFA, similar in corrupt practises to the IOC..

They've even managed to overtake the IOC in recent years ......... but the IOC are keen for a counterattack!

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Probable scenario is Russia has taken out a former spy to keep him quiet. It may have been on British soil but it's hardly an attack on Britain. We'd all probably be shocked at how often this sort of thing happens without the need to start a war. I don't seem to recall as much fallout after the mysterious death of Dr David Kelly for example

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Probable scenario is Russia has taken out a former spy to keep him quiet. It may have been on British soil but it's hardly an attack on Britain. We'd all probably be shocked at how often this sort of thing happens without the need to start a war. I don't seem to recall as much fallout after the mysterious death of Dr David Kelly for example"

have you been away?

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Nonsense. They have done it to show what they are capable of. The week before they were boasting about their new nuclear weapon.

They are disgusting, warmongering thugs.

I do not particularly care about their ex-spies, but I do care about the emergency services who attended, the recovery truck driver, innocent members of the public who tried to help. The fact that it seems to have either been carried out in a restaurant, or in a supermarket car-park.

If they wanted to take out a former spy, then just go to his house and shoot him, not that I would condone such a murder for one minute, but to poison someone in public, shows how alike Russia, North Korea and Hitler really are.

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By *ornyDubMan25Man
over a year ago

Berlin

The Irony in this thread... the British government has done much more callous, scummy and indiscriminate acts and been even more brazen about it in many nations!

The Russians injure a handful of people and its all boycotts and handbags at dawn!

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

So you're quite happy with what they did are you?

We've done worse in the past, so it's absolutely fine for them to injure or kill innocent people on the street in the UK is it?

You'll be ok when it's your friends and family that it affects next time around will you?

You must be the biggest Russian loving, Jeremy Corbyn fan, idiot on the planet

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"So you're quite happy with what they did are you?

We've done worse in the past, so it's absolutely fine for them to injure or kill innocent people on the street in the UK is it?

You'll be ok when it's your friends and family that it affects next time around will you?

You must be the biggest Russian loving, Jeremy Corbyn fan, idiot on the planet

Woah now child. Don't drag JC into it

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

Agree totally..

I agree in part . But I think it goes a lot deeper than just English hooliganism .

Most of the Russian games and teams have a hard line core of followers that fight and organise fights each week before and after games .

I think we should boycott the World Cup and I feel most of Europe would follow ... this would hit Russia hard not only financially but also as a country .

Putin needs a kick in the nuts , especially as he is currently campaigning for re-election ,,,, tho against who ,, I’m not sure?

"Most of Europe will follow" , - ever heard of Brexit? "

Brexit ? What’s that ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Irony in this thread... the British government has done much more callous, scummy and indiscriminate acts and been even more brazen about it in many nations!

The Russians injure a handful of people and its all boycotts and handbags at dawn!

This is completely true. I'm British people in the majority are great and so are the Russians in the majority. Both government however are not. Both have and will commit acts of violence and deceit. We're just being pumped full of western propaganda

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By *aggie and DanCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Waste of the air fare, they'll be kicked in the 1st round out by some obscure country that people have never heard of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Irony in this thread... the British government has done much more callous, scummy and indiscriminate acts and been even more brazen about it in many nations!

The Russians injure a handful of people and its all boycotts and handbags at dawn!

This is completely true.British people in the majority are great and so are the Russians in the majority. Both government however are not. Both have and will commit acts of violence and deceit. We're just being pumped full of western propaganda "

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By *ornyDubMan25Man
over a year ago

Berlin

"So you're quite happy with what they did are you?

We've done worse in the past, so it's absolutely fine for them to injure or kill innocent people on the street in the UK is it?

You'll be ok when it's your friends and family that it affects next time around will you?

You must be the biggest Russian loving, Jeremy Corbyn fan, idiot on the planet

thats pretty typical Tory behaviour, use fear and intimidation to get your point across. As you should have noticed I'm not from the U.K. and I live in Berlin so it actually doesn't really affect me either way. I don't see how Russia's alleged actions are much different to Britain sending a murder squad to Northern Ireland that murdered numerous civilians in mistaken identity and crossfire on the streets.

You should really give Scotland Yard a bell with that conclusive evidence you have that the Russians did it, they need the propaganda for mugs like you!

It's also much more likely I would have an innocent family member killed by some trigger happy British "patriot" like yourself than by a Russian...

As for Jeremy Corbyn, I find British politics very dramatic and cringeworthy... i don't really have an opinion on him!

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"Personally I feel that the poisoning should have been classified and kept top secret from the public.

This incident has scared the crap out of me way more than any terrorist act

Because they have a decent army, no chance of nicking their oil and nuclear weapons and a dangerous dispot in charge"

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By *ornyDubMan25Man
over a year ago

Berlin

"So you're quite happy with what they did are you?

We've done worse in the past, so it's absolutely fine for them to injure or kill innocent people on the street in the UK is it?

You'll be ok when it's your friends and family that it affects next time around will you?

You must be the biggest Russian loving, Jeremy Corbyn fan, idiot on the planet

Also based on that temper and misinformation I'd say most of your profile is pure lies!

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"So you're quite happy with what they did are you?

We've done worse in the past, so it's absolutely fine for them to injure or kill innocent people on the street in the UK is it?

You'll be ok when it's your friends and family that it affects next time around will you?

You must be the biggest Russian loving, Jeremy Corbyn fan, idiot on the planet

Also based on that temper and misinformation I'd say most of your profile is pure lies!

I'm all honesty wtf can we do about it? We can't go over there with our so called allies and get rid of putin just because we suspect he is using chemical weapons.. surely it's wrong to do that!

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By *ornyDubMan25Man
over a year ago

Berlin

"So you're quite happy with what they did are you?

We've done worse in the past, so it's absolutely fine for them to injure or kill innocent people on the street in the UK is it?

You'll be ok when it's your friends and family that it affects next time around will you?

You must be the biggest Russian loving, Jeremy Corbyn fan, idiot on the planet

Also based on that temper and misinformation I'd say most of your profile is pure lies!

I'm all honesty wtf can we do about it? We can't go over there with our so called allies and get rid of putin just because we suspect he is using chemical weapons.. surely it's wrong to do that!"

Think it's fine once you've an idiot at the controls in America and a Labour PM.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you think the England football team should not go to Russia

In protest to the attack ?

The royal family representing England football team in Russia should they go ?

Royal family NO

England football team YES "

I don't think anyone should go there until they take control of their nerve agents

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over a year ago

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