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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?"

Ask for a meeting and bring it up x

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

My boss listens to my opinion, says he will think about it and a few days later presents the idea back to me like he thought of it.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?"

Yep - very familiar with this! Happened lots in a previous job I had - I left in the end!

Currently in a minimum wage job that uses about 20 brain cells - but constantly cringing at bad decisions/instructions/lack of training happening both at a branch and head office level! Often have ‘if I were in charge’ moments! A girl can dream!

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Do you work for the NHS too? The penpushers making decisions that have no idea about the shop floor!

It’s infuriating

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?

Ask for a meeting and bring it up x"

We tried this. No change.

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By * kiss like morphineMan
over a year ago

The gravelly bit next to the shed

Have a week off then see the poo hit the oscillator.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?"

Happened to me countless times. A colleague and I came up with the phrase "malicious obedience". This is where you document in writing to more than one senior person the way that you would do things pointing out the cost and efficiency savings, then stick to their way rigidly. Continue to communicate your thoughts until eventually either someone takes notice or the place goes down the pan. Not ideal but it was the only way we could get through without going crazy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have a week off then see the poo hit the oscillator. "

I love your pic!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do think I’m listened to.

We work in small teams of 3 who work shifts.

The gaffer works days during the week.

So on nights and weekends I have to make his decisions and more often than not lately....other managers decisions who ARE there!

I don’t mind since it gives me more leverage to push for more bonus %

But i have also experienced not being listened to, it’s hilarious when the shit hits the fan afterwards

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?

Happened to me countless times. A colleague and I came up with the phrase "malicious obedience". This is where you document in writing to more than one senior person the way that you would do things pointing out the cost and efficiency savings, then stick to their way rigidly. Continue to communicate your thoughts until eventually either someone takes notice or the place goes down the pan. Not ideal but it was the only way we could get through without going crazy."

That sounds like a plan. But the business is basically already spinning round the plughole... only stuck on hair dregs stopping it from sinking into oblivion.

I'll use that analogy in my next meeting.

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By *pforit74Man
over a year ago

a secluded seaside cottage, ballybunion,

i'm but a simple carpenter , bottom of the barrel sort of speak , but in my line of work involving big sites , foremen engineers architects etc , what you need to do to improve things if you have an idea ,was to ask roundabout questions drop hints until they think its them that came up with an idea for improving things , otherwise their self importance leaves them blinded to anything anyone they think is beneath them have to say , maybe you can apply something similar in your position ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?

Happened to me countless times. A colleague and I came up with the phrase "malicious obedience". This is where you document in writing to more than one senior person the way that you would do things pointing out the cost and efficiency savings, then stick to their way rigidly. Continue to communicate your thoughts until eventually either someone takes notice or the place goes down the pan. Not ideal but it was the only way we could get through without going crazy.

That sounds like a plan. But the business is basically already spinning round the plughole... only stuck on hair dregs stopping it from sinking into oblivion.

I'll use that analogy in my next meeting. "

Oh Lord! I hope you've got one of those drained things that stops you going down the plug hole completely

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I don't care if mine does or not really as he's never here anyway . I run the shop he just collects the dosh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My boss listens to my opinion, says he will think about it and a few days later presents the idea back to me like he thought of it. "
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Classic management

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Does your boss listen to your opinion? Assuming it's something work related that you have years of experience in.

We have some new management that have no experience in our field of work yet they make decisions without consulting us at all. We have worked on similar issues for years and solved problems and could help save the company time and money.

How would you deal with this?"

The only time I've worked in a role similar to what you describe was when there was a drastic change in IT infrastructure. Pre manager change, management took on all ideas from contract changes (group wide), reporting, investigation and training changes to name a few. Post Mgr change; new systems meant the level of input was near nil. I survived two redundancy phases only to leave due to boredom. If they are making changes, they are having to agree or at least explain this with their management tiers. It may just be a shift in company policy.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Have a week off then see the poo hit the oscillator. "

Off topic but I love your pic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my work they ask of ideas, opinions and waste time in a meeting.

nothing happens and then sometimes u have to just fuck it and do it yourself

but i have more fun letting my manager beg for help and i say NO now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a week off then see the poo hit the oscillator. "

What size is that shoe? No more measuring in hand potatoes I'm just gonna ask what size shoe they could wear!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah he does, it's nice to work for someone who appreciates my input.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All my bosses appreciated my input but some were a bit selective how they used it. Some were happy to plagiarize my work and claim it as there own on a few occasions. I didn't mind as the end result benefited the job. I always worked on the basis of if you think you might not like my opinion, don't ask for it. I hated it when mine was siught but then ignored, udually for political or self-serving agendas. I advised one public sector think tank against a particular course of action, based on actual evidence of data and experience, and they did it anyway. It recently failed miserably, costing the local taxpayer millions and almost crippling the service it was supposed to improve.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Just sounds like most large businesses, there are always those people that get employed because their CV looked good and they surround themselves with a circle of close but equally inadequate morons who will take the fall for their bad decisions.

Just give it time, they usually ascend the greasy pole of hierarchy and eventually are someone elses problem..

In the meantime, just suck it up and just keep politely pointing out the errors of their ways to others using terms such as "Great idea from (sir Fuckwit) which could be made even more efficient if (xyz) was implemented along side"...

Give ejits enough rope and they usually hang themselves.. metaphorically of course.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"Have a week off then see the poo hit the oscillator.

I love your pic!!! "

Me too - gross but hilarious!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

We are are under a complete new service due to big changes in law...managers have not listened to us or they pretend to and now everyone is under pressure and over worked and stressed!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i'm but a simple carpenter , bottom of the barrel sort of speak , but in my line of work involving big sites , foremen engineers architects etc , what you need to do to improve things if you have an idea ,was to ask roundabout questions drop hints until they think its them that came up with an idea for improving things , otherwise their self importance leaves them blinded to anything anyone they think is beneath them have to say , maybe you can apply something similar in your position ?"

We did try this for a while but got nowhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Opinions are like as*holes everyone has one and most only believe there sh*t x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you looking at the bigger picture though?

Sometimes new management who don't have experience in a particular field, have a wealth of experience in multiple fields that make them more qualified than someone who only knows one job.

Working together with new management is a two way street. It's not just about them listening to you, you have to hear them out, listen to what their mission statement is before coming to the conclusion that you know more than they do, because they might surprise you

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Are you looking at the bigger picture though?

Sometimes new management who don't have experience in a particular field, have a wealth of experience in multiple fields that make them more qualified than someone who only knows one job.

Working together with new management is a two way street. It's not just about them listening to you, you have to hear them out, listen to what their mission statement is before coming to the conclusion that you know more than they do, because they might surprise you"

I agree, yes they are experts at some aspects. They don't communicate at all though so no chance of us knowing their intentions.

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