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This is what 1 degrees warming looks like

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Crazy days

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!"

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate "

Glazed over at just the thought of it.

Gullible also springs to mind.

They didn't have the tech we have today to glean such information back then so what are so said experts comparing their data against??

Really!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know, but climate change is not about how hot it is, but how much energy is sitting in the atmosphere making weather events more dramatic.

As it is, this cold spell is caused by climate "hotness" - there's a high pressure area to the west of us that is big and bad and has sucked more air into it, causing replacement air from the cold, wintry east to arrive thanks to the jet stream. Add to that, the rain coming from the big storm to the south and we have lotsa snow!

So you may laugh and think, its cold therefore no climate change, but the reality is its climate change causing the cold.

Though I also think its a bit of a group-think scam without properly reviewed science as any scientist who even tries to check if climate change is true will get pilloried by his peers. Just like the days when scientists all said eating fat makes you fat so eat sugar instead... shows how scientists can delude themselves.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate

Glazed over at just the thought of it.

Gullible also springs to mind.

They didn't have the tech we have today to glean such information back then so what are so said experts comparing their data against??

Really!"

I think it's worth reading the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's reports, so that at least you'll know how the analysis has been made and the confidence levels attached to their reports.

As others have said, there are two areas of focus - globally, plus at localised levels. The earth has diverse systems that trap and circulate energy and various parts of it will be affected differently - actual sea level rises at different points will differ and the actual temperature increases in places will vary: some will increase more, others a little less. The expectation is that we'll have more extreme weather events and some of the recent ones may have been made more possible or more extreme due to global warming.

The worst aspect of global warming is that most of it has been caused by human activities and that preventing even larger increases is possible, if people take appropriate action.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

For a superb laymans description of what's going on, get hold of a copy of "Climate Changed", Phillipe Squarzoni. It's done in the form of a graphic novel, but with real science background, proper references etc. I myself was at least a little sceptical until I read this. Now I'm just terrified, hoping that the worst effects hold off until it doesn't matter for me. If you have kids and especially grandkids be terrified on their behalf, we're past the irreversible point. All we can hope to do now is minimise how bad things get in 20, 30, 40 years time.

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By *ibertine_mindsCouple
over a year ago

Staffs/ Derbys/ Peak District


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Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

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I attended a conference in the mid-1980s on climate change and the threat of temperature changes to the world’s available water supplies . . .

Fabulous images, btw . . .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate "

Data gathering, prob only been going for say 50 years max. How old is the earth ? Ever heard of the ice age ? How long ago was that ? Global warming is a natural phenomena and Earth like all things has a sell by date

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There have been fluctuations in the Earth's temperature for as long as there has been an Earth.

Only now do we record it with any accuracy.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

98% of scientists who specialise in the field think that man is having an effect on the change on climate (of course the climate changes naturally too).

Some bloke called Dave who's Facebook profile picture is of him and a truck says it's all a conspiracy.

I know who I'm going to believe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll go with the scientists on this one

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate

Data gathering, prob only been going for say 50 years max. How old is the earth ? Ever heard of the ice age ? How long ago was that ? Global warming is a natural phenomena and Earth like all things has a sell by date"

Polar ice cores?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

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ever heard of what?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Actually this winter has been somewhat of a fuck up, not just here but all over the northern hemisphere.

The polar vortex which is a very strong high pressure which encapsulates the cold in the Arctic has been disturbed, the jet stream which is normally quite consistent is now meandering and at one point even crossed the equator (never observed ever before), northern Greenland spent 10 days above freezing, this in the artic winter when the sun set 3 months ago, the Arctic sea ice is at its lowest ever recorded and the North pole along with Alaska at times has been 30 degrees c above it's average whereas East coast USA and Canada has taken the brunt of the cold that's been unleashed by the collapse of the polar vortex.

Meanwhile the East coast of America has now record heat temperatures and now is facing a once in a generation storm which is actually the second one this year while the earlier dry and hotter than average West coast is now experiencing serve frosts.

And we've not even got into the sudden stratospheric warming last week which caused the weather we're currently experiencing!!.

Now I love a good conspiracy but alas this particular one got forecast 40 years ago although it's coming a bit earlier than they expected.

This is what 1 degrees warming looks like I'm afraid

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate "

I really don't have much of an opinion for or against whether global warming/climate change is a manmade phenomenon but it is interesting to note that there are as many "experts" denouncing GW/CC as there are saying it is happening,the ones saying it is happening just have a more publo

ic platform. The ones denouncing it have just as much scientific data corroborating their views as the ones pushing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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... it is interesting to note that there are as many "experts" denouncing GW/CC as there are saying it is happening,"

we'd like to see those figures and a bibliography that references them please.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate

I really don't have much of an opinion for or against whether global warming/climate change is a manmade phenomenon but it is interesting to note that there are as many "experts" denouncing GW/CC as there are saying it is happening,the ones saying it is happening just have a more publo

ic platform. The ones denouncing it have just as much scientific data corroborating their views as the ones pushing it."
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That's just not true, or at least it's not really true.

So people who actually study climate, there called climate scientists, they have expertise in various subjects connected to climate, the vast vast vast majority of these tens of thousands of folk agree on anthropogenic climate change, yes there's several thousand others who disagree but there NOT climate scientists nor have any expertise in climate subjects (most of them are physicists) or worse still astro physicists and frankly they have about as much understanding as you do, which is apparently not a lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Regarding climate change, if 9 out of 10 doctors said you had cancer can we have a show of hands of those who would choose to be treated by the one doctor who disagrees with other 9 .

Let's play the odds and not go extinct people.

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Regarding climate change, if 9 out of 10 doctors said you had cancer can we have a show of hands of those who would choose to be treated by the one doctor who disagrees with other 9 .

Let's play the odds and not go extinct people. "
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Ah but these are the days where a chiropractors opinion of your cancer is as good as a cancer specialists opinion!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I only know of three climate scientists who disagree with agw 2 of them are complete crackpots and the other one works for Exxon, meh

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate

I really don't have much of an opinion for or against whether global warming/climate change is a manmade phenomenon but it is interesting to note that there are as many "experts" denouncing GW/CC as there are saying it is happening,the ones saying it is happening just have a more publo

ic platform. The ones denouncing it have just as much scientific data corroborating their views as the ones pushing it..

That's just not true, or at least it's not really true.

So people who actually study climate, there called climate scientists, they have expertise in various subjects connected to climate, the vast vast vast majority of these tens of thousands of folk agree on anthropogenic climate change, yes there's several thousand others who disagree but there NOT climate scientists nor have any expertise in climate subjects (most of them are physicists) or worse still astro physicists and frankly they have about as much understanding as you do, which is apparently not a lot"

sorry but just because you do not agree with them does not make them experts in their fields,these people are accredited scientists in the field of climate but they are being discredited because their findings do not go with the grain right now.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate

I really don't have much of an opinion for or against whether global warming/climate change is a manmade phenomenon but it is interesting to note that there are as many "experts" denouncing GW/CC as there are saying it is happening,the ones saying it is happening just have a more publo

ic platform. The ones denouncing it have just as much scientific data corroborating their views as the ones pushing it..

That's just not true, or at least it's not really true.

So people who actually study climate, there called climate scientists, they have expertise in various subjects connected to climate, the vast vast vast majority of these tens of thousands of folk agree on anthropogenic climate change, yes there's several thousand others who disagree but there NOT climate scientists nor have any expertise in climate subjects (most of them are physicists) or worse still astro physicists and frankly they have about as much understanding as you do, which is apparently not a lot

sorry but just because you do not agree with them does not make them experts in their fields,these people are accredited scientists in the field of climate but they are being discredited because their findings do not go with the grain right now."
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Name me one!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who’s got a degree relating to the subject and has studied it for over 10 years. It’s just fucking depressing we still have to deal with you lot who think it’s a hoax or conspiracy.

Although saying that, it is hilarious seeing people who have no understanding of meteorology or climate science try explain this stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"sorry but just because you do not agree with them does not make them experts in their fields,these people are accredited scientists in the field of climate but they are being discredited because their findings do not go with the grain right now."

again ... who are 'they'? .... how many do 'they' number? ... what references do you have to back up what you've said? .... because it sounds like supposition plucked from thin air without answer to these questions

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'll give you one as your struggling

Judith curry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"98% of scientists who specialise in the field think that man is having an effect on the change on climate (of course the climate changes naturally too).

Some bloke called Dave who's Facebook profile picture is of him and a truck says it's all a conspiracy.

I know who I'm going to believe. "

I tend to find that scientists prove the point the people paying them for research want..........

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"98% of scientists who specialise in the field think that man is having an effect on the change on climate (of course the climate changes naturally too).

Some bloke called Dave who's Facebook profile picture is of him and a truck says it's all a conspiracy.

I know who I'm going to believe.

I tend to find that scientists prove the point the people paying them for research want.........."
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Excellent point.

I'll give you the second, Roy Spencer who's worked for Exxon for a decade and the heartland institute for another ten years, ooh the heartland institute sounds very credible, completely funded by the Koch brothers oil money

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"As someone who’s got a degree relating to the subject and has studied it for over 10 years. It’s just fucking depressing we still have to deal with you lot who think it’s a hoax or conspiracy.

Although saying that, it is hilarious seeing people who have no understanding of meteorology or climate science try explain this stuff.

"

A “degree” in temperature or one of those paper ones?

You got a degree by being taught what you needed to get it

Who taught you that information and who taught him or her.

Misinformation today leads to these theories and people not believing what we are being told.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As someone who’s got a degree relating to the subject and has studied it for over 10 years. It’s just fucking depressing we still have to deal with you lot who think it’s a hoax or conspiracy.

Although saying that, it is hilarious seeing people who have no understanding of meteorology or climate science try explain this stuff.

A “degree” in temperature or one of those paper ones?

You got a degree by being taught what you needed to get it

Who taught you that information and who taught him or her.

Misinformation today leads to these theories and people not believing what we are being told.

"
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It's truly depressing that wincy Willis isn't on the IPCC

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

There's an experts opinion worth listening to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its just a myth made up so they can introduce things like taxation on Carbon footprint (made up spin).

Had you ever even heard of such a thing 10 years ago?

Its a natural cycle and they will no doubt come up with a different name for whatever comes next!

typical example of end of nose thinking

So the UK has a small weather blip and the climate change denyers cite this as evidence that man influenced climate change is a conspiracy theory

try reading the 10 000 data points from across the world and within its atmosphere and seas logged for the last 150 years to perhaps give a less knee jerk analysis of world climate

Glazed over at just the thought of it.

Gullible also springs to mind.

They didn't have the tech we have today to glean such information back then so what are so said experts comparing their data against??

Really!"

radioactive isotopes such as oxygen and carbon which have been preserved in icecores,tundra and peatbogs within the arctic circle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As someone who’s got a degree relating to the subject and has studied it for over 10 years. It’s just fucking depressing we still have to deal with you lot who think it’s a hoax or conspiracy.

Although saying that, it is hilarious seeing people who have no understanding of meteorology or climate science try explain this stuff.

A “degree” in temperature or one of those paper ones?

You got a degree by being taught what you needed to get it

Who taught you that information and who taught him or her.

Misinformation today leads to these theories and people not believing what we are being told.

"

Or alternatively when you do a degree you are told to actually read peer reviewed papers where Scientists regularly rip one another to pieces on the tiniest of mistakes.

Have a look at the Koch brothers in america, big oil, gas and fracking lobbiests who have paid politicians and non-STEM professors and doctors to vote against and write anti-anthropegenic climate change pieces.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As someone who’s got a degree relating to the subject and has studied it for over 10 years. It’s just fucking depressing we still have to deal with you lot who think it’s a hoax or conspiracy.

Although saying that, it is hilarious seeing people who have no understanding of meteorology or climate science try explain this stuff.

A “degree” in temperature or one of those paper ones?

You got a degree by being taught what you needed to get it

Who taught you that information and who taught him or her.

Misinformation today leads to these theories and people not believing what we are being told.

Or alternatively when you do a degree you are told to actually read peer reviewed papers where Scientists regularly rip one another to pieces on the tiniest of mistakes.

Have a look at the Koch brothers in america, big oil, gas and fracking lobbiests who have paid politicians and non-STEM professors and doctors to vote against and write anti-anthropegenic climate change pieces.

"

Thank you

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"sorry but just because you do not agree with them does not make them experts in their fields,these people are accredited scientists in the field of climate but they are being discredited because their findings do not go with the grain right now.

again ... who are 'they'? .... how many do 'they' number? ... what references do you have to back up what you've said? .... because it sounds like supposition plucked from thin air without answer to these questions"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"sorry but just because you do not agree with them does not make them experts in their fields,these people are accredited scientists in the field of climate but they are being discredited because their findings do not go with the grain right now.

again ... who are 'they'? .... how many do 'they' number? ... what references do you have to back up what you've said? .... because it sounds like supposition plucked from thin air without answer to these questions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming"

thats a few to start

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilD6aYvMPZw

an interesting watch,wait until the end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a study, ultimately funded by a tobacco company, that provided evidence to support the principle that smoking was as beneficial to elite athletes as high altitude training.

Another study will demonstrate that using masks to restrict air intake achieves the same effect.

Then there are studies which debunk both theories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Climate change denial is in the realm of flat earth tinfoilery brigade these days.If a climat change denier can cobble together a paper that'll stand peer review I'll deep fry my testicles.

Conspiracy fuckwittery is all it is

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Climate change denial is in the realm of flat earth tinfoilery brigade these days.If a climat change denier can cobble together a paper that'll stand peer review I'll deep fry my testicles.

Conspiracy fuckwittery is all it is "

Apparently though, according to some of the extremely knowledgeable people on here, peer review is some sort of groupthink conspiracy....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"sorry but just because you do not agree with them does not make them experts in their fields,these people are accredited scientists in the field of climate but they are being discredited because their findings do not go with the grain right now.

again ... who are 'they'? .... how many do 'they' number? ... what references do you have to back up what you've said? .... because it sounds like supposition plucked from thin air without answer to these questions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

thats a few to start"
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Your aware that I asked you to actually name some "climate scientists" and not just scientists in general, it gets back to this point about asking a chiropractor about your cancer, they both work in medicine but one has a slight bit more fucking knowledge about cancer than the other... It's the same with some crappy halfwit physicist , a degree in physics could get your a job in aerospace, medicine, engineering, what it won't do is turn you into an expert on fucking climate change, what it of course should do is really really make it quite fucking obvious that tindell and Arrhenius experiments on the trapping of long wave radiation by c02 in the 1800s.

Alas I do believe some folks would deny any old bollocks in the name of a good yarn

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilD6aYvMPZw

an interesting watch,wait until the end"
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No it's not, it's a moron who doesn't know the difference between natural climate change experienced over hundreds of thousands of years and agw which is from c02 emissions emitted from human activity

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"Climate change denial is in the realm of flat earth tinfoilery brigade these days.If a climat change denier can cobble together a paper that'll stand peer review I'll deep fry my testicles.

Conspiracy fuckwittery is all it is "

I'll second this, I can't believe there are still climate change deniers in this day and age. Don't even get me started on the dribbling, tinfoil hat wearing flat earthers

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway


"Climate change denial is in the realm of flat earth tinfoilery brigade these days.If a climat change denier can cobble together a paper that'll stand peer review I'll deep fry my testicles.

Conspiracy fuckwittery is all it is

I'll second this, I can't believe there are still climate change deniers in this day and age. Don't even get me started on the dribbling, tinfoil hat wearing flat earthers "

I don't think people are saying the climate isn't changing,of course it is changing but it has been changing since time immemorial.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Arctic has been experiencing a freak heatwave this weekend.The northern most weather station in Greenland measured a 6.1 degrees Celsius on Saturday it should be -16.

So while Europe froze the Arctic was experiencing a heatwave in the middle of the Arctic winter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"sorry but just because you do not agree with them does not make them experts in their fields,these people are accredited scientists in the field of climate but they are being discredited because their findings do not go with the grain right now.

again ... who are 'they'? .... how many do 'they' number? ... what references do you have to back up what you've said? .... because it sounds like supposition plucked from thin air without answer to these questions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

thats a few to start"

wikipedia? really? pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Climate change denial is in the realm of flat earth tinfoilery brigade these days.If a climat change denier can cobble together a paper that'll stand peer review I'll deep fry my testicles.

Conspiracy fuckwittery is all it is

I'll second this, I can't believe there are still climate change deniers in this day and age. Don't even get me started on the dribbling, tinfoil hat wearing flat earthers

I don't think people are saying the climate isn't changing,of course it is changing but it has been changing since time immemorial."

Yes of course the climate changes over time.We can measure the difference in co2 in the atmosphere on the past with ice cores.We can prove the Co2 in the atmosphere has increased rapidly recently.We can also prove the increase is man made and different from co2 released by rotting organic matter or the ocean's.Due to its isotopic signature.We also know co2 warms the planet.We also know a warmer atmosphere creates more hurricanes more extreme weather and will cause sea level rise.

So which bit of the above does anyone want to deny is happening.

The argument against man made climate change is similar to tobacco companies of the past denying smoking caused cancer and paying researchers to try and prove it was safe.The oil industry has put millions in to research to try and prove it's not happening.Theyve failed at every attempt.O to beyond reasonable doubt tat we've altered the atmosphere.Suck it up.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

We aren’t saying that climate change isn’t happening and agree that as humans we maybe making things worse with carbon monoxide.

It’s the us changing our vehicles etc that boils the blood as no matter what we do as a country it will make probably a 0.04% difference if the rest of the planet isn’t going to join the party.

Doomed but we will be long gone before the real impact hits home and by then it will be too late.

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over a year ago


"We aren’t saying that climate change isn’t happening and agree that as humans we maybe making things worse with carbon monoxide.

It’s the us changing our vehicles etc that boils the blood as no matter what we do as a country it will make probably a 0.04% difference if the rest of the planet isn’t going to join the party.

Doomed but we will be long gone before the real impact hits home and by then it will be too late.

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People are obviously by nature short sighted and hate change.Its like giving medicine to children.They screw up their face and complain but its done for their own good.In the bigger picture the survival of humanity and the environment out weighs the inconvenience of change.

Regards the "It's all fucked anyway " response to climate change you are right.It's to late to prevent the damage already done the last hundred years will effect the next 1000 years.Its not to late however to prevent the loss of ecosystems and biodiversity that have existed for millions of years and will never come back the same.

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By *igblackdomTV/TS
over a year ago

West Midlands


"Regarding climate change, if 9 out of 10 doctors said you had cancer can we have a show of hands of those who would choose to be treated by the one doctor who disagrees with other 9 .

Let's play the odds and not go extinct people. "

Good point, even if the split was equal not many of us would sit out the outcome on the off chance we might die!

So why second guess global warming? I've not heard ANY scientists proclaim carbon emissions are GOOD for the environment!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If ever there was a failure by the mainstream media to portray an honest picture this is it.

The Oscars will make headlines along with who won I'm a celebrity and dancing on Ice but 85% of the population are completely or very lacking in the realities of climate change, the perception of 2100 is locked in their brains and that's the fault of the far too conservative IPCC, this arbitrary 2100 2 degrees warming nonsense has for far too long being used as some figure for Domesday, the reality is far far far worse, the nay sayers will state that the computer models aren't accurate and they're right, pretty much every computer model has UNDER played the severity and OVER played the time schedule, we're seeing things TODAY that computer models didn't forecast till 2050, scientists by nature are conservative on outcomes and probabilities and that's a recipe for disaster.

The media need to stop using celebrities and politicians like al gore to put the case forward and start putting on the actual scientists on the six o clock news such is the importance of the next 15 years

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Climate change denial is in the realm of flat earth tinfoilery brigade these days.If a climat change denier can cobble together a paper that'll stand peer review I'll deep fry my testicles.

Conspiracy fuckwittery is all it is

I'll second this, I can't believe there are still climate change deniers in this day and age. Don't even get me started on the dribbling, tinfoil hat wearing flat earthers

I don't think people are saying the climate isn't changing,of course it is changing but it has been changing since time immemorial."

There is some agreement on this latter point: those scientists supporting the global warming evidence actually agree upon the natural cycles of the climate changing - where it differs to the tinfoil hat wearers is that they believe with over 95% certainty that human activities have caused global warming. It's not that natural causes have stopped or are being ignored but that human activities have surpassed natural cycles to such an extent that we are in a process of warming, due to greenhouse gas accumulations driven by humans.

There's a NASA graphic here showing the increase of CO2, one of the greenhouse gases, accumulating to the current highly dangerous levels:

https://climate.nasa.gov/interactives/climate-time-machine

(Should be a permitted source, as NASA is a recognised government site).

Of course, people are welcome to think and believe whatever they fancy and this is fine, as long as they're not going to impede the world's experts from influencing steps to mitigate global warming. If you don't believe that there is warming underway due to human activity, then maybe it's because you've been putting your attention into the wrong places, or you just don't care.

The climate is changing, it's heating up and it's largely now caused by human activity.

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