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By *ensual-dominant-passion OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield

I have seen many videos on you tube where some MMA fighters and martial

artist in recent times have said that he would be no match for them and that he was only an actor and not what he made out to be...

I just think it's highly disrespectful to someone who brought Chinese martial arts to the western world.. (wing chun in particular) and creating his own style of martial arts.

He was such an icon and they can just dismiss him in such a manner...

You're thoughts on this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldn't agree more. He was a martial artist first and an actor second. A true pioneer long before Enter The Dragon gained cult status (which unfortunately he never got to see).

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Agreed.

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By *ensual-dominant-passion OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield

Michael jai white.. a multiple belt holder in karate and other martial arts said that Bruce lee would be no match for him.. he said this on a live radio show.. he said he would not feel Bruce lees power because of his size.., he later apologised because he was criticised for it

I've seen many interviews with martial artist who sparred with Bruce and they said he was amazing and the real deal

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

Times change. What was considered ahead of its time in the 70s 80s is now behind the curve. As much as I admire Bruce and his skills/abilities he wouldn't be a match for today's top line UFC fighters.

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By *ensual-dominant-passion OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"Times change. What was considered ahead of its time in the 70s 80s is now behind the curve. As much as I admire Bruce and his skills/abilities he wouldn't be a match for today's top line UFC fighters. "

His natural ability and the able to adjust to different styles would have made him an elite fighter in the UFC... if he had time to train for a certain fight.. certain individual I think he would have been a light weight champion no doubt..

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Times change. What was considered ahead of its time in the 70s 80s is now behind the curve. As much as I admire Bruce and his skills/abilities he wouldn't be a match for today's top line UFC fighters.

His natural ability and the able to adjust to different styles would have made him an elite fighter in the UFC... if he had time to train for a certain fight.. certain individual I think he would have been a light weight champion no doubt..

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Totally agree , his hand speed and power has never been matched .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bruce left Hong Kong because he was in constant trouble for taking part in rooftop street fights, which tells us that he wasn't a just for camera fighter, he was the real deal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is obviously no way of finding this out for sure because he is no longer here.

He recognised that NO single martial art taught in a traditional manner would necessarily stand up to everything. He therefore was quietly dismissing traditional arts and blending his original style (wing chun) with other styles, including western boxing, he started to form his style (of no style)

JKD.

I think he would have soon figured out the best techniques and learnt and adapted to any fighting styles including modern mma which generally consists of a good stand up game, boxing or Muay Thai with judo and or BJJ.

The issue with wing chun was and is the fact it's not often pressure tested in the same way boxing and any form of Muay Thai or American kickboxing is.

As most people would no, sport fighting, tournament fights, street fighting and self defence are all quite different.

Weight class, Bruce Lee wouldn't have won in a sumo wrestling contest against a 500 pound sumo.

Would he have won a western boxing match against heavyweight at the time? Muhammad Ali, am pretty sure the answer would be no way.

Would he have won a western boxing match against a top pro at his weight? Maybe, if he trained in boxing, specifically the rules and points system.

MMA as we know it wasn't really around then, things change and evolve.

Now for life and death self defence, he had the reactions of a fly and crazy hand speed, if he got a quick blow to an eye or the throat, then game over (probably!)

He was a movie star, so much in the films is bullshit in the real word, however it seems he was the pioneer in freestyle, would have possibly been MMA if it was today.

With the explosion of the Internet and global information over the last decade or two, the stuff that doesn't work gets exposed and modified.

MMA still has rules but would still be pretty hardcore, it has evolved to a stand up game with wrestling, judo or bjj.

Answer to the question, short version:

In an MMA fight, as he left his martial arts (JKD) I bet his stand up game would match anyone today of a similar weight class. If he got taken down, my guess his he losses. Who knows, if he had been alive he may have been influential in adapting many of today's forms, variations and no forms of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's like those who say George Best wouldn't deliver in today's football. They don't appreciate that genius operates in its own domain, others aspire to it.

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By *09309309Woman
over a year ago

Dublin

What about Jackie Chan?

That's all I'm sayin'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What about Jackie Chan?

That's all I'm sayin'"

Go and watch what he says about Bruce Lee, it's on YouTube.

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By *09309309Woman
over a year ago

Dublin


"What about Jackie Chan?

That's all I'm sayin'

Go and watch what he says about Bruce Lee, it's on YouTube. "

I was only messing around. I don't know anything about Bruce Lee. Just a joke xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bruce Lee was the daddy and that’s that. His speed was indefensible, you might see it coming but by the time your brain has registered what’s coming your’e on the floor. I’ve seen videos that have been slowed down as much as possible and his kicks are just a blur. He was challenged by a couple of extras on enter the dragon who didn’t believe his hype and they soon changed their minds.

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By *imandHerNottsCouple
over a year ago

North Notts

Hi I’m Luke, my dad is Bruce Lee and he drives around in his JCB!!

Holding up the bypass and everything lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Something that cannot be measured, however I as many do believe him to be a genius onscreen and off...

And a bad ass

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"I have seen many videos on you tube where some MMA fighters and martial

artist in recent times have said that he would be no match for them and that he was only an actor and not what he made out to be...

I just think it's highly disrespectful to someone who brought Chinese martial arts to the western world.. (wing chun in particular) and creating his own style of martial arts.

He was such an icon and they can just dismiss him in such a manner...

You're thoughts on this? "

I think its piss easy to "challenge" someone who's dead.

Pricks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What about Jackie Chan?

That's all I'm sayin'"

jackie chan had a bit part in enter the dragon so he. could see at first hand just how good bruce lee was.bruce lee was on the verge of making it big when his life was sadly cut short so we will never know just how big he would have become but for me he will allways be the best .of course chuck norris starrred in the famous way of the dragon fight scene too and he had a great career in film and television

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"It's like those who say George Best wouldn't deliver in today's football. They don't appreciate that genius operates in its own domain, others aspire to it."

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By *ensual-dominant-passion OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"What about Jackie Chan?

That's all I'm sayin'

jackie chan had a bit part in enter the dragon so he. could see at first hand just how good bruce lee was.bruce lee was on the verge of making it big when his life was sadly cut short so we will never know just how big he would have become but for me he will allways be the best .of course chuck norris starrred in the famous way of the dragon fight scene too and he had a great career in film and television"

Jackie chan was left in a martial arts temple from the age of 5 years old and left when he was 17 he was a stunt man in Bruce Lee movies, he met Bruce when he was around 20 and was a very skilled fighter but yet in his interview he said Bruce Lee was amazing.. and his idle.. not just as an actor but as a martial artist.. his ability to adjust in a fight. . His speed and power.. his fighting knowledge..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only one way to find out....

wait...he's dead lol

I suppose many could say george best is an amazing footballer...however times change...

I think confusing 'iconic' to the 'best' is a bit foolish

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By *ensual-dominant-passion OP   Man
over a year ago

sheffield


"only one way to find out....

wait...he's dead lol

I suppose many could say george best is an amazing footballer...however times change...

I think confusing 'iconic' to the 'best' is a bit foolish "

The original post is about MMA fighters saying they could easily beat him... I just think it's highly disrespectful, Michael jai white an actor and martial artist also said that he would be no match for him because of his size... in a street fight I'm sure size wouldn't matter if a fighter is that skill full

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i find people who say things like this are clearly not living in their own real world, Bruce Lee’s philosophy on fighting was to “be like water” never to mold yourself to one style, his speed was legendary, they had to use special cameras in Enter the Dragon to record his speed he was that fast.

Personally I find comments saying they could take take Bruce down very disrespectful to a man who inspired so many others to take up some form of martial art (going from personal experience), his movies are what they are, but you can’t say he was just an actor, there’s footage of him having a sparing match and you can see there just how good of a fighter he really was.

Having spent the last decade on my own journey, only doing jiu jitsu, i’ve watched and read a lot about him. Those who have met and trained with him have had nothing but respect for him. MMA fighters saying they could beat Bruce Lee? They don’t deserve respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i find people who say things like this are clearly not living in their own real world, Bruce Lee’s philosophy on fighting was to “be like water” never to mold yourself to one style, his speed was legendary, they had to use special cameras in Enter the Dragon to record his speed he was that fast.

Personally I find comments saying they could take take Bruce down very disrespectful to a man who inspired so many others to take up some form of martial art (going from personal experience), his movies are what they are, but you can’t say he was just an actor, there’s footage of him having a sparing match and you can see there just how good of a fighter he really was.

Having spent the last decade on my own journey, only doing jiu jitsu, i’ve watched and read a lot about him. Those who have met and trained with him have had nothing but respect for him. MMA fighters saying they could beat Bruce Lee? They don’t deserve respect."

I think Bruce had an enormous amount of respect for other styles and all his opponents. Respect is a big part of the martial arts tradition and should be a big part of life.

Totally agree!

Well done for your own recent achievement too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i find people who say things like this are clearly not living in their own real world, Bruce Lee’s philosophy on fighting was to “be like water” never to mold yourself to one style, his speed was legendary, they had to use special cameras in Enter the Dragon to record his speed he was that fast.

Personally I find comments saying they could take take Bruce down very disrespectful to a man who inspired so many others to take up some form of martial art (going from personal experience), his movies are what they are, but you can’t say he was just an actor, there’s footage of him having a sparing match and you can see there just how good of a fighter he really was.

Having spent the last decade on my own journey, only doing jiu jitsu, i’ve watched and read a lot about him. Those who have met and trained with him have had nothing but respect for him. MMA fighters saying they could beat Bruce Lee? They don’t deserve respect.

I think Bruce had an enormous amount of respect for other styles and all his opponents. Respect is a big part of the martial arts tradition and should be a big part of life.

Totally agree!

Well done for your own recent achievement too."

cheers buddy

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