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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

What about kosher foods?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

Um no

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Um no"

Why not? Are you religious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"No

How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No

How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion. "

I don't like the thought of animals being slaughtered alive, least we stun our animals

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Don’t forget KFC which to my knowledge are all halal. Well the ones I visit are anyway. Chicken tastes the same. And I also shop sometimes in some of the Asian supermarkets for meat as it’s cheaper and better quality I find than the big supermarkets

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"No

How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion.

I don't like the thought of animals being slaughtered alive, least we stun our animals"

According to the rspca 84% of halal animals are stunned first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Um no

Because I don't think animals should have their throats cut then hung upside down until they bleed out to die just because it says that's how to do it in some old book. And no I'm not religious

Why not? Are you religious? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don’t forget KFC which to my knowledge are all halal. Well the ones I visit are anyway. Chicken tastes the same. And I also shop sometimes in some of the Asian supermarkets for meat as it’s cheaper and better quality I find than the big supermarkets "

It tastes the same but killed differently.

What did asians do before we did halal meat? And are they making it cheaper to get more people to buy it then that will become the norm?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dunno what happened there but I CBA writing it again lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No

How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion.

I don't like the thought of animals being slaughtered alive, least we stun our animals

According to the rspca 84% of halal animals are stunned first. "

Not as far as i know from the asians i talk to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Um no

Because I don't think animals should have their throats cut then hung upside down until they bleed out to die just because it says that's how to do it in some old book. And no I'm not religious

Why not? Are you religious? "

Totally agree with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't really care how the animals die before they reach my plate. Just so long as they taste good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're going to believe the rspca you might as well stun yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

To quote you from another thread. This is fabswingers, we don't have policy changing powers

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Im still waiting for Soylent Green. It's the future.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

all food Halal......

No...

Y shood English people be forced to eat a set food just cos of a relijon that to be fair is not even English ?

Easy option is all restaurants have a Halal opshoun that way everyone is happy

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"If you're going to believe the rspca you might as well stun yourself.

Spot on . I'm a butcher and I can assure you virtually all halal meat is killed via the traditional Muslim methods . I will not stock or use halal meat in my shop . If my profits have decreased as a result of that then so be it Sorry.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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"Im still waiting for Soylent Green. It's the future."

You a secret cannibal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't really care how the animals die before they reach my plate. Just so long as they taste good

This is the right mentality to have as a meat eater.

Don't understand people who are concerned about how animals die but still eat them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Majority of Muslims (that I know anyway ) aren't overly bothered by most places not selling halal meat. When ever me and my friend go to eat she just has seafood and literally makes no fuss about it whatsoever.

Tends to be non Muslims who have stronger opinions about halal meat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No ta iv been in plenty halal butcher that should be closed by food standards flys crawling all over it

So 100% no

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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No meat should be halal anywhere in the world. Animals should be treated as best as possible in their lives leading up to 'their time'. And the act should be as painless as possible. The method used should not be dictated by anything to do with any religion.

Yes I know I am not being realistic before anyone says. Just my two penneth.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Im still waiting for Soylent Green. It's the future.

You a secret cannibal?"

Pork length sometimes tempts me.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

all food Halal......

No...

Y shood English people be forced to eat a set food just cos of a relijon that to be fair is not even English ?

Easy option is all restaurants have a Halal opshoun that way everyone is happy

English isn't a religion. English people can be Muslim. So can the Scots , the Irish, the Poles, the Welsh, the Chinese..... yada yada.

I'm being pulled by the Q tho cos it highlights the fact that I don't give much thought to how meat is produced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im still waiting for Soylent Green. It's the future.

You a secret cannibal?

Pork length sometimes tempts me.

It'll come. I don't think soylent green or long pork is far off tbh.

The way this country treats it's farmers and local butchers it'll be needed.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No ta iv been in plenty halal butcher that should be closed by food standards flys crawling all over it

So 100% no "

Flies aren't compulsory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?"

Lol we all know why.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

No, I do eat Halal meat as I like a curry so don't have much choice, but I would rather Halal slaughter was banned outright on cruelty grounds. I'm not religious in the slightest so find it hard to get my head around why so much pandering is done for those who believe in sky pixies, and that includes all religions not just Islam.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

Lol we all know why."

Its pathetic,soon as i read his op i thought "premeditated"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?"

For this very reason !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?"

You obviously don't know Clem's style

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you're going to believe the rspca you might as well stun yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

You obviously don't know Clem's style

Oh is he a forum fave/regular,that makes everything alright then doesnt it

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"If you're going to believe the rspca you might as well stun yourself.

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Cheers

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

I think maybe everything in the shops should be made gluten free

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

No!!! Changed my mind. Everything should be vegetarian

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I think maybe everything in the shops should be made gluten free "

What would be feed our glutes with ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No!!! Changed my mind. Everything should be vegetarian

Hmmmmmm do you not know that plants scream ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you're going to believe the rspca you might as well stun yourself.

I'd use your shop

i like to have my choice

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

"I think maybe everything in the shops should be made gluten free

What would be feed our glutes with ?"

Non-gluten stuff. Or something

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

"No!!! Changed my mind. Everything should be vegetarian

Hmmmmmm do you not know that plants scream ?"

Oh no!!! What should we do now? Should all supermarkets have artificial food only?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"If you're going to believe the rspca you might as well stun yourself.

I'd use your shop

i like to have my choice"
Thanks

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By *hatterbox 2Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

I agree that every animal should be looked after even when its been slaughtered and should be done as humanely possible not slaughtering whilst still alive

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No!!! Changed my mind. Everything should be vegetarian

Hmmmmmm do you not know that plants scream ?

Oh no!!! What should we do now? Should all supermarkets have artificial food only? "

What's artificial and nutritious ?

What's Quorn made from ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No!!! Changed my mind. Everything should be vegetarian

Hmmmmmm do you not know that plants scream ?

Oh no!!! What should we do now? Should all supermarkets have artificial food only?

What's artificial and nutritious ?

What's Quorn made from ?"

Plastic bottles

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm apparently , Quorn is made from a mold found in soil ...... it's washed a bit and then some vitamins added and hey presto .....

Who said there's money in dirt ? They are right .. Quorn is the future... well it'll do for a few centuries before we eat each other.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"No!!! Changed my mind. Everything should be vegetarian

Hmmmmmm do you not know that plants scream ?

Oh no!!! What should we do now? Should all supermarkets have artificial food only?

What's artificial and nutritious ?

What's Quorn made from ?

Plastic bottles"

So do politicians and i'd still eat them.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"No!!! Changed my mind. Everything should be vegetarian

Hmmmmmm do you not know that plants scream ?

Oh no!!! What should we do now? Should all supermarkets have artificial food only?

What's artificial and nutritious ?

What's Quorn made from ?

It's heavily processed, but a mycoprotein (i.e. a fungus that was originally found in Lancashire I believe), then also eggs, and a whole lot of other stuff that is not exactly what you would call healthy.

Vegetarian yes, healthy, questionable...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No

How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion.

I don't like the thought of animals being slaughtered alive, least we stun our animals

According to the rspca 84% of halal animals are stunned first.

Not as far as i know from the asians i talk to"

Non Asians are Muslims too, Chinese, Japanese etc are Asians too, however Chinese, Japanese etc don’t eat halal meat.

Other races are available too in Muslim religion.

just thought I would broaden your thinking spectrum

Thank me later x

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

"Hmmmmmmmmmmmm apparently , Quorn is made from a mold found in soil ...... it's washed a bit and then some vitamins added and hey presto .....

Who said there's money in dirt ? They are right .. Quorn is the future... well it'll do for a few centuries before we eat each other. "

Think we've got our solution then... All supermarkets should sell only quorn x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hmmmmmmmmmmmm apparently , Quorn is made from a mold found in soil ...... it's washed a bit and then some vitamins added and hey presto .....

Who said there's money in dirt ? They are right .. Quorn is the future... well it'll do for a few centuries before we eat each other.

Think we've got our solution then... All supermarkets should sell only quorn x"

Or Pringles

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

Lol we all know why.

Its pathetic,soon as i read his op i thought "premeditated""

Ah, people like you make it all so worth while though.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I think maybe everything in the shops should be made gluten free "

I think everything in the shops should be just free.......love and peace brothers and sisters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

Lol we all know why.

Its pathetic,soon as i read his op i thought "premeditated"

Ah, people like you make it all so worth while though.

If OP could decide to be born as a nice person.. I rest my case

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

"Hmmmmmmmmmmmm apparently , Quorn is made from a mold found in soil ...... it's washed a bit and then some vitamins added and hey presto .....

Who said there's money in dirt ? They are right .. Quorn is the future... well it'll do for a few centuries before we eat each other.

Think we've got our solution then... All supermarkets should sell only quorn x

Or Pringles

Pringles!! Thank god for pringles, didn't fancy quorn only diet

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I think maybe everything in the shops should be made gluten free

I think everything in the shops should be just free.......love and peace brothers and sisters."

Give me all your stuff........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hmmmmmmmmmmmm apparently , Quorn is made from a mold found in soil ...... it's washed a bit and then some vitamins added and hey presto .....

Who said there's money in dirt ? They are right .. Quorn is the future... well it'll do for a few centuries before we eat each other.

Think we've got our solution then... All supermarkets should sell only quorn x

Or Pringles

Pringles!! Thank god for pringles, didn't fancy quorn only diet

Did you know that there is no vat on Pringles because the potato content is less than 100g.. that’s why I can eat 10 packs and still feel hungry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think maybe everything in the shops should be made gluten free

I think everything in the shops should be just free.......love and peace brothers and sisters."

Look kids Socialist globalist here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you eat meat, you ARE responsible for the brutal death of an animal. Stunned (if it works, it regularly does not) or not it's a brutal way to go.

Insisting on stunning is mainly a measure ensuring people don't feel too awfully bad for the killing of their dinner because it was heaving a nice voltage induced nap when it was split open from throat to anus.

If you want to ensure the welfare of your meat, kill your own.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Just seems to me if you're not religious, and the animals are slaughtered in a humane way (otherwise it wouldn't be allowed) why should it matter to you if the meat is halal or not. So it might as well all be. Surely it's a very good way of welcoming muslims into our multi cultural society. Maybe a small section of non halal for any remaining Christian's. But even they should be ok so long as they bless their food in Jesus's name.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"What about kosher foods?

They are halal.

Win-win!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Just seems to me if you're not religious, and the animals are slaughtered in a humane way (otherwise it wouldn't be allowed) why should it matter to you if the meat is halal or not. So it might as well all be. Surely it's a very good way of welcoming muslims into our multi cultural society. Maybe a small section of non halal for any remaining Christian's. But even they should be ok so long as they bless their food in Jesus's name. "

Satanists need catering for too.

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By *G CoupleCouple
over a year ago

kent

Is it only Muslims that kill halal style?

And do they kill pig as it’s against their religion to eat it?

Is bacon isn’t effected then I don’t see why not.

Fish suffer the worst death imo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it only Muslims that kill halal style?

And do they kill pig as it’s against their religion to eat it?

Is bacon isn’t effected then I don’t see why not.

Fish suffer the worst death imo. "

Is fish halal though? Does it make a big news?

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By *ink magnolia s yorksWoman
over a year ago

south yorkshire

No, it's a cruel way of killing animals. I'm atheist so don't give a toss about religion.

What about Jewish people who want their meat Kosher?

Personally I avoid places that sell only halal meat, yeah I even know what the little wiggles in Arabic mean that they display.

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By *ink magnolia s yorksWoman
over a year ago

south yorkshire

Muslims can eat fish freely, it doesn't have to be killed differently x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No, it's a cruel way of killing animals. I'm atheist so don't give a toss about religion.

What about Jewish people who want their meat Kosher?

Personally I avoid places that sell only halal meat, yeah I even know what the little wiggles in Arabic mean that they display. "

What does the “little wiggles” mean? Tell us tell us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it's edible, I'll eat it.

Would we still be able to get pork and seafood though?

I was told by a chef that halal meat doesn't taste as good, because of the way it's killed.

I had authentic halal food recently and it was ok. Not as nice as a typical Indian restaurant though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sikhs are not allowed to eat Halal food.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Sikhs are not allowed to eat Halal food. "

Not even with a note?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Majority of Muslims (that I know anyway ) aren't overly bothered by most places not selling halal meat. When ever me and my friend go to eat she just has seafood and literally makes no fuss about it whatsoever.

Tends to be non Muslims who have stronger opinions about halal meat "

This. My very close friend only ever eats halal meat and it's never came up in conversation the whole 17 years that I've known her x

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Tends to be non Muslims who have stronger opinions about halal meat

This. My very close friend only ever eats halal meat and it's never came up in conversation the whole 17 years that I've known her x"

Try giving her non halal meat and see if she mentions it then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tends to be non Muslims who have stronger opinions about halal meat

This. My very close friend only ever eats halal meat and it's never came up in conversation the whole 17 years that I've known her x

Try giving her non halal meat and see if she mentions it then? "

I have done in the past not knowing and she politely declined. It was only when I was speaking to my other neighbour about her not eating my lunch that I found out that she didn't eat Halal meat x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tends to be non Muslims who have stronger opinions about halal meat

This. My very close friend only ever eats halal meat and it's never came up in conversation the whole 17 years that I've known her x

Try giving her non halal meat and see if she mentions it then?

I have done in the past not knowing and she politely declined. It was only when I was speaking to my other neighbour about her not eating my lunch that I found out that she didn't eat Halal meat x"

Only ate halal sorry

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By *inkywife1981Couple
over a year ago

A town near you

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

Even pork

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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"Im still waiting for Soylent Green. It's the future.

You a secret cannibal?

Pork length sometimes tempts me.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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The only thing I want my meat blessed with his chops round it. Yes double entendre intended lol.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Even pork"

Obviously not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tends to be non Muslims who have stronger opinions about halal meat

This. My very close friend only ever eats halal meat and it's never came up in conversation the whole 17 years that I've known her x

Try giving her non halal meat and see if she mentions it then?

I have done in the past not knowing and she politely declined. It was only when I was speaking to my other neighbour about her not eating my lunch that I found out that she didn't eat Halal meat x

Only ate halal sorry "

How did she know it wasn't halal? Did you tell her? Otherwise she wouldn't have known. That's what the question was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn’t this just another way in which our western culture is curtailing?

Halal and Kosher are not required for the vast majority of people in the UK, add to this that these methods of slaughter are inhumane and verging on barbaric, the I am completely against it.

What next? Swap baseball caps for hijabs?

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over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

I got food poisoning from nandos!

Hey clem, should we just let sharia law rule too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No meat should be halal anywhere in the world. Animals should be treated as best as possible in their lives leading up to 'their time'. And the act should be as painless as possible. The method used should not be dictated by anything to do with any religion.

Yes I know I am not being realistic before anyone says. Just my two penneth."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clem knew exactly what he was doing when he posted this lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tends to be non Muslims who have stronger opinions about halal meat

This. My very close friend only ever eats halal meat and it's never came up in conversation the whole 17 years that I've known her x

Try giving her non halal meat and see if she mentions it then?

I have done in the past not knowing and she politely declined. It was only when I was speaking to my other neighbour about her not eating my lunch that I found out that she didn't eat Halal meat x

Only ate halal sorry

How did she know it wasn't halal? Did you tell her? Otherwise she wouldn't have known. That's what the question was. "

I have no idea. It was after talking to my pal about her not eating my lunch that she said thats why she would have refused it and that she buys her meat from certain places. I just presumed that's why she didn't eat it x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clem knew exactly what he was doing when he posted this lmao "

Did it really take you 86 messages to figure that out pmsl x

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

I got food poisoning from nandos!

Hey clem, should we just let sharia law rule too?

Certainly some aspects of it would benefit our own laws I'm sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree that every animal should be looked after even when its been slaughtered and should be done as humanely possible not slaughtering whilst still alive"

I'm sorry to break it to you but all animals that are slaughtered are alive at the time.Any slaughtering method could be considered cruel and inhumane.

Stunning the animals with an electric shock before slaughter may mean they don't feel the bolt going through their brain but it's still something many people prefer not to think about.

If you really don't wish to be involved in any mistreatment of animals,you'd need to be a 100% strict vegan.Not just in diet but in every aspect of life,much easier said than done.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"I agree that every animal should be looked after even when its been slaughtered and should be done as humanely possible not slaughtering whilst still alive

I'm sorry to break it to you but all animals that are slaughtered are alive at the time.Any slaughtering method could be considered cruel and inhumane.

Stunning the animals with an electric shock before slaughter may mean they don't feel the bolt going through their brain but it's still something many people prefer not to think about.

If you really don't wish to be involved in any mistreatment of animals,you'd need to be a 100% strict vegan.Not just in diet but in every aspect of life,much easier said than done."

Well, you could just kill them yourself. Raise a chicken, kill a chicken. Job done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The practice of killing an animal with a knife and draining is all over the world. Including Catholics in the preseny. I've done it myself when I was a child. We are taught to survive we have to kill animals to eat. I'm certain in England we did the same before commercialisation of meat.

Those who say it's more humane to stun them, you still killed them, ended their life, took them away from their families. How they slaughter animals now is not to make it more humane but to kill in the masses. A cost cutting exercise to increase the profit. Haven't battery Chickens taught us anything?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

I wonder if farmers get a say in how their herd is slaughtered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

Lol we all know why.

Its pathetic,soon as i read his op i thought "premeditated""

Its his hobby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you're going to believe the rspca you might as well stun yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

Lol we all know why.

Its pathetic,soon as i read his op i thought "premeditated"

Its his hobby"

Halal meat?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

Lol we all know why.

Its pathetic,soon as i read his op i thought "premeditated"

Its his hobby"

Has anyone ever posted a thread that wasn't premeditated? How would that work?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

Why post a thread that you know will get heated?

Lol we all know why.

Its pathetic,soon as i read his op i thought "premeditated"

Its his hobby

Has anyone ever posted a thread that wasn't premeditated? How would that work? "

It's called "kiss fuck avoid" "show us your arse" "who's got the best..." no thought required

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I've just deleted a paragraph to replace it with...

OP, how long are you signed off?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"I've just deleted a paragraph to replace it with...

OP, how long are you signed off?

That would be telling...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got meat sweats

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a religion-neutral person, I’d rather have meat without any religious mumbo jumbo jiggery pokery done to it.

Also what about people who raise their children religion-fluid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a religion-neutral person, I’d rather have meat without any religious mumbo jumbo jiggery pokery done to it.

Also what about people who raise their children religion-fluid?

Also - tinned hotdogs, the type that are typically 70 odd percent chicken and a little bit of pork... if it’s halal chicken, does that make halal pork?!? That’ll upset a few people

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

I need a white shirt 17 collar

& i like that blue jacket in the window in a 54 cm please

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By *rai69Man
over a year ago

Braintree

Halal has no place here, animals are NOT stunned before having throat slit. I refuse to buy or eat it.

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By *MNJCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

"No, I do eat Halal meat as I like a curry so don't have much choice, but I would rather Halal slaughter was banned outright on cruelty grounds. I'm not religious in the slightest so find it hard to get my head around why so much pandering is done for those who believe in sky pixies, and that includes all religions not just Islam."

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion. "

I'm secular and live in a secular state and it forces a religious belief upon me.

If someone is that devoted to a religion they should go move to a religious country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion.

I'm secular and live in a secular state and it forces a religious belief upon me.

If someone is that devoted to a religion they should go move to a religious country."

We shouldn’t have to adopt bad practices in order to accommodate everyone accept the laws of the land or leave

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"How come? What difference does it make to you? Unless you follow another religion.

I'm secular and live in a secular state and it forces a religious belief upon me.

If someone is that devoted to a religion they should go move to a religious country.

We shouldn’t have to adopt bad practices in order to accommodate everyone accept the laws of the land or leave "
^ This

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London

"Halal has no place here, animals are NOT stunned before having throat slit. I refuse to buy or eat it. "

They are at big halal slaughterhouses. Which does not mean less suffering, by the way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

If the animals were slaughtered in a humane way then there’s no reason why all meat can’t be Halal / Kosher friendly.

However, there are no guarantees regardless of methods used that the animals didn’t suffer at the time of slaughter.

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By *rai69Man
over a year ago

Braintree

Some people on here are so naive

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By *adja_lazloCouple
over a year ago

Solihull

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

some is a trolling lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In this day an age no religion of any sort should force its way into other peoples lives.

Those that want to eat Halal have chosen to do so and shouldnt feel put out by having to search for it "plenty of it knocking about".

And more so those that disagree with the practice of Halal should not be forced into it being the only option because the powers that be have decided to pander to a minority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In this day an age no religion of any sort should force its way into other peoples lives.

Those that want to eat Halal have chosen to do so and shouldnt feel put out by having to search for it "plenty of it knocking about".

And more so those that disagree with the practice of Halal should not be forced into it being the only option because the powers that be have decided to pander to a minority.

Practically every butchers and chicken shop is halal in my town. You'd be hard pressed to find one that isn't. Not sure about Nandos or KFC though McDonald's isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who cares . You can’t be a meat eater and then complain about the way the animal is killed . Different cultures all have different beliefs and ways of doing things , if you prefer halal method buy it but if not don’t . Simples . At the end of the day The animal is killed to feed you regardless of how it got killed . And no I’m not a veggie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Halal has no place here, animals are NOT stunned before having throat slit. I refuse to buy or eat it.

They are at big halal slaughterhouses. Which does not mean less suffering, by the way."

A chef once told me Halal meat is tough and doesn't taste as good as non halal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who cares . You can’t be a meat eater and then complain about the way the animal is killed . Different cultures all have different beliefs and ways of doing things , if you prefer halal method buy it but if not don’t . Simples . At the end of the day The animal is killed to feed you regardless of how it got killed . And no I’m not a veggie

You can if you want your Sunday roast to have been killed quickly and painlessly. We have laws about transporting and slaughtering animals because people care how they die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In this day an age no religion of any sort should force its way into other peoples lives.

Those that want to eat Halal have chosen to do so and shouldnt feel put out by having to search for it "plenty of it knocking about".

And more so those that disagree with the practice of Halal should not be forced into it being the only option because the powers that be have decided to pander to a minority.

Practically every butchers and chicken shop is halal in my town. You'd be hard pressed to find one that isn't. Not sure about Nandos or KFC though McDonald's isn't."

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants. "

So you are okay with all animal slaughter being inhumane then??

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"In this day an age no religion of any sort should force its way into other peoples lives.

Those that want to eat Halal have chosen to do so and shouldnt feel put out by having to search for it "plenty of it knocking about".

And more so those that disagree with the practice of Halal should not be forced into it being the only option because the powers that be have decided to pander to a minority.

Practically every butchers and chicken shop is halal in my town. You'd be hard pressed to find one that isn't. Not sure about Nandos or KFC though McDonald's isn't.

I know a lot of businesses realise that selling Halal meat gives them a wider market than non Halal simply because those who are against Halal will still probably eat it if its the only option on the menu"
I've never sold halal in my shop and I've had no complaints and although I don't make a mint I'm happy with the customers I get

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"Halal has no place here, animals are NOT stunned before having throat slit. I refuse to buy or eat it. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can if you want your Sunday roast to have been killed quickly and painlessly. We have laws about transporting and slaughtering animals because people care how they die. "

It's not painless. Even a stunned animal dies horribly. I used to work for a company that rendered fats and proteins from carcasses for sale to the make up industry amongst others. went into a lot of slaughterhouses and the process is still horrible, there is still consciousness in the eyes of the animal, they thrash violently and vocalise pain when dying.

We in the western world aren't animal lovers at all, we just tell ourselves we are and pretend our methods are humane. That's just for us to feel better, not the animal, an ease in our minds, not the animals suffering

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

So you are okay with all animal slaughter being inhumane then??

If it was that bad it wouldn't be legal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We render down the dead bodies and spread them on our faces. Very civilised

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

No because it should be freedom of choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many people debating here have actually had anything to do with either method of killing an animal themselves? I will bet next to none, people will be parroting things from the news/paper/facebook that they've heard, recycling arguments rather than having real experience to draw on

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Would you pay more for none halal? So you know the animal's slaughter had been as humane as possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you pay more for none halal? So you know the animal's slaughter had been as humane as possible. "

Already do.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"How many people debating here have actually had anything to do with either method of killing an animal themselves? I will bet next to none, people will be parroting things from the news/paper/facebook that they've heard, recycling arguments rather than having real experience to draw on "

I've killed my own. But i take your point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I know I am not being realistic before anyone says. Just my two penneth."

I agree with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've killed my own. But i take your point. "

Then your ahead of most people's curves

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

My heart goes out to animal loving muslims who are concerned with care of animals during slaughter. However, as most people don't really understand the slaughtering process anyway i wonder if they're being rather hypocritical to avoid halal products.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Isn’t this just another way in which our western culture is curtailing?

Halal and Kosher are not required for the vast majority of people in the UK, add to this that these methods of slaughter are inhumane and verging on barbaric, the I am completely against it.

What next? Swap baseball caps for hijabs?"

Baseball caps..

Only if they're made in sweatshops in far away lands by kids..

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By *issyme555TV/TS
over a year ago

Motherwell

I think if you were all doing our own slaughtering their would be a lot more veggies going by this thread. It hasn't always been the way it is now.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Does a couple of rabbits count..?

Cute little guys but hey..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree that every animal should be looked after even when its been slaughtered and should be done as humanely possible not slaughtering whilst still alive

I'm sorry to break it to you but all animals that are slaughtered are alive at the time.Any slaughtering method could be considered cruel and inhumane.

Stunning the animals with an electric shock before slaughter may mean they don't feel the bolt going through their brain but it's still something many people prefer not to think about.

If you really don't wish to be involved in any mistreatment of animals,you'd need to be a 100% strict vegan.Not just in diet but in every aspect of life,much easier said than done.

Well, you could just kill them yourself. Raise a chicken, kill a chicken. Job done.

Well,that bird still is gonna die. Is wringing its neck or chopping its head off completely cruelty free?

My tip is,if you are going to raise and kill your own animals,don't give them names.It just makes it harder.

The only way to avoid involvement in any form of animal cruelty is to be totally 100% vegan,which I am not,by the way.I doubt there are many even in the vegan community who can really claim to be ,either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you pay more for none halal? So you know the animal's slaughter had been as humane as possible. "

If all meat were Halal you mean? I'm guessing we would be buying meat off the black market, in that case, and it would be very expensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With some religions it's not how it's been slaughtered that's the problem, it's the blessing of the animal.

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

So you are okay with all animal slaughter being inhumane then??

If it was that bad it wouldn't be legal. "

What a load of bollocks...have your actually seen videos of halal slaughter? .....troll on my friend ....and hopefully one day you will see the light....even if you do think it shines out of your backside....

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"I agree that every animal should be looked after even when its been slaughtered and should be done as humanely possible not slaughtering whilst still alive

I'm sorry to break it to you but all animals that are slaughtered are alive at the time.Any slaughtering method could be considered cruel and inhumane.

Stunning the animals with an electric shock before slaughter may mean they don't feel the bolt going through their brain but it's still something many people prefer not to think about.

If you really don't wish to be involved in any mistreatment of animals,you'd need to be a 100% strict vegan.Not just in diet but in every aspect of life,much easier said than done.

Well, you could just kill them yourself. Raise a chicken, kill a chicken. Job done.

Well,that bird still is gonna die. Is wringing its neck or chopping its head off completely cruelty free?

My tip is,if you are going to raise and kill your own animals,don't give them names.It just makes it harder.

Always amused me taking the occasion bird to the vets and them asking it's name!

i only ever named a few hens and my favourite cock. His name was Bastard, because he was!

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Isn't it about time it was all Halal? It doesn't change the taste, and shopping would be a lot easier for muslims. It seems to work ok for many Nando's restaurants.

So you are okay with all animal slaughter being inhumane then??

If it was that bad it wouldn't be legal.

Jesus

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

As has been said before - most Halal meat is pre-stun. This is according to an abbatoir vet that I know.

I don't think it's actually feasable not to stun in the larger abbotoirs, because you'd have to take animals off the line.

Kosher slaughter can never be pre-stun.

As an aside, there was an interesting doccumentary some years ago which examined slaughter methods and when you look at a cardiograph of a stunned animal, there is a massive "stress" spike as it is stunned (as you might expect), whereas ones that just had their throat slit (the knife is very sharp) didn't show it, the heartbeat just got weaker. Even less visible stress was shown by carbon monoxide slaughter, which I believe is already a reality in some places.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Would you pay more for none halal? So you know the animal's slaughter had been as humane as possible.

If all meat were Halal you mean? I'm guessing we would be buying meat off the black market, in that case, and it would be very expensive. "

More like where we pay extra for organic or free range at the moment. Would you pay more for your meat to have as comfortable death as possible?

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By *G CoupleCouple
over a year ago

kent

Newzeland all slaughtered animals are stunned first regardless of how they are killed.