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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this?" A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. " Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to" Nah, that was that place in Mexico or somewhere. | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to" Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact" Not fact.. more research is needed. Any Engineer could give you a number of simple examples using ropes, levers, manpower, animal power. | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact Not fact.. more research is needed. Any Engineer could give you a number of simple examples using ropes, levers, manpower, animal power." Like I said in your other post.. you may want to lay off the conspiracies. For the record.. we landed on the moon and jet fuel will warp construction steel. | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact" I'd argue with that fact. | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact I'd argue with that fact. "  | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact Not fact.. more research is needed. Any Engineer could give you a number of simple examples using ropes, levers, manpower, animal power." Erm I am an engineer fully qualified | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this?" The internet can be a source of very accurate information but it can also be the source of much misinformation. I think its a good idea to check resources and read around a subject before accepting something as accurate. | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact I'd argue with that fact. "Astronomy and mathematics were very well known to the Ancient Egyptians. | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact" Stonehenge is a simple mortise and tenon jointed structure with stone quarried from South Wales. | |||
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"Watched a documentary recently They asked a civil engineer what cranes could move some of the stones estimated at 100 tones As someone who works in this area Yes we can lift this, but my god that some serious kit needed to lift that weight and move it!!" Egyptians would have had access to elephants, horses, buffalo and loads of slaves don't forget. Not to mention the Ancient world's greatest engineers. | |||
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"How did they get the large blue stones from South Wales across the Severn and many other rivers to where Stonehenge sits Remember you are talking 5 to 10000years ago" Boats. Ropes. Slaves. | |||
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"How did they get the large blue stones from South Wales across the Severn and many other rivers to where Stonehenge sits Remember you are talking 5 to 10000years ago" I can't really comment as I'm a ex-combat engineer with little stone Henge knowledge, not a construction engineer. Is it a possibility that the water courses were different back then? Or that rivers could be diverted? Roll stones over logs? Incidentally.. there is a much larger site in Northern France many don't know about. looks much more impressive than Stone Henge. Don't forget.. TV programmes are made for viewing figures.. not facts. | |||
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"How did they get the large blue stones from South Wales across the Severn and many other rivers to where Stonehenge sits Remember you are talking 5 to 10000years ago I can't really comment as I'm a ex-combat engineer with little stone Henge knowledge, not a construction engineer. Is it a possibility that the water courses were different back then? Or that rivers could be diverted? Roll stones over logs? Incidentally.. there is a much larger site in Northern France many don't know about. looks much more impressive than Stone Henge. Don't forget.. TV programmes are made for viewing figures.. not facts." Hadn't heard of the French one. Off to look now | |||
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"No there is one in Brittany " Carnac stones in Brittany, which is North France right? | |||
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"No there is one in Brittany Carnac stones in Brittany, which is North France right?" 100% correct Avery is bigger in size too | |||
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"No there is one in Brittany Carnac stones in Brittany, which is North France right? 100% correct Avery is bigger in size too" Avebury? That’s a very impressive site, although most of it was ‘reconstructed’ ie the stones put back into their upright position. Had a great field trip there from school, and West Kennet Long Barrow | |||
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"Most of the recently discovered pyramids have always been there. The use of satellite technology and ground radar of various types etc has simply made them easier to locate.... Not much of a conspiracy "Saw a good documentary recently on all the new discoveries being made around the Nile delta.. shame terrorism is hampering scientific efforts.. I'd not like to be stuck out in the desert with a trowel for defence. | |||
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"The interesting thing is the similarity in construction and some of the artwork and hieroglyphs across continents where people shouldn't have been aware if each other. Some of the megalithic obelisks that were quarried with remarkable accuracy given the alleged bronze tooling available are huge. Check out the megalith stones used in Baalbek Lebanon. Look at where they are in relation to the building. Engineers cannot give simple answers as to how they got there neither can they replicate it now. Then there's Gobekli Tepe which has thrown the timeline of civilisation into question hugely. There is lots to be learned from looking back to the ancients but looking from a modern day lens makes it difficult to understand. We've only just found the new void/chamber in the Great Pyramid at Giza, there is much we don't know. " Agreed, but just because we don't know every answer yet.. doesn't mean we should resort to Bizarre and Outlandish theories. | |||
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"The interesting thing is the similarity in construction and some of the artwork and hieroglyphs across continents where people shouldn't have been aware if each other. Some of the megalithic obelisks that were quarried with remarkable accuracy given the alleged bronze tooling available are huge. Check out the megalith stones used in Baalbek Lebanon. Look at where they are in relation to the building. Engineers cannot give simple answers as to how they got there neither can they replicate it now. Then there's Gobekli Tepe which has thrown the timeline of civilisation into question hugely. There is lots to be learned from looking back to the ancients but looking from a modern day lens makes it difficult to understand. We've only just found the new void/chamber in the Great Pyramid at Giza, there is much we don't know. Agreed, but just because we don't know every answer yet.. doesn't mean we should resort to Bizarre and Outlandish theories." Yeah but you stated fact that isn't fact. When we as a 'more' advanced technological society cannot replicate the achievements of an ancient society in the infancy of the human civilisation no theory or thought should be overlooked. Just because we think something is fanciful doesn't mean it is. A fairly robust theory I like is that the pyramids were agricultural machines generating electrical current designed for irrigation as the Nile began to deviate and the Sahara Desert began to encroach on the fertile Giza plateau endangering the lives of the Egyptians. Then there is also evidence that suggests that the Giza Pyramids were in fact built by the early Mesopotamians and the early dynastic Egyptians found and utilised them rather than built them. | |||
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"The interesting thing is the similarity in construction and some of the artwork and hieroglyphs across continents where people shouldn't have been aware if each other. Some of the megalithic obelisks that were quarried with remarkable accuracy given the alleged bronze tooling available are huge. Check out the megalith stones used in Baalbek Lebanon. Look at where they are in relation to the building. Engineers cannot give simple answers as to how they got there neither can they replicate it now. Then there's Gobekli Tepe which has thrown the timeline of civilisation into question hugely. There is lots to be learned from looking back to the ancients but looking from a modern day lens makes it difficult to understand. We've only just found the new void/chamber in the Great Pyramid at Giza, there is much we don't know. Agreed, but just because we don't know every answer yet.. doesn't mean we should resort to Bizarre and Outlandish theories. Yeah but you stated fact that isn't fact. When we as a 'more' advanced technological society cannot replicate the achievements of an ancient society in the infancy of the human civilisation no theory or thought should be overlooked. Just because we think something is fanciful doesn't mean it is. A fairly robust theory I like is that the pyramids were agricultural machines generating electrical current designed for irrigation as the Nile began to deviate and the Sahara Desert began to encroach on the fertile Giza plateau endangering the lives of the Egyptians. Then there is also evidence that suggests that the Giza Pyramids were in fact built by the early Mesopotamians and the early dynastic Egyptians found and utilised them rather than built them. " What fact have I stated that isn't a fact out of curiosity? | |||
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"The interesting thing is the similarity in construction and some of the artwork and hieroglyphs across continents where people shouldn't have been aware if each other. Some of the megalithic obelisks that were quarried with remarkable accuracy given the alleged bronze tooling available are huge. Check out the megalith stones used in Baalbek Lebanon. Look at where they are in relation to the building. Engineers cannot give simple answers as to how they got there neither can they replicate it now. Then there's Gobekli Tepe which has thrown the timeline of civilisation into question hugely. There is lots to be learned from looking back to the ancients but looking from a modern day lens makes it difficult to understand. We've only just found the new void/chamber in the Great Pyramid at Giza, there is much we don't know. Agreed, but just because we don't know every answer yet.. doesn't mean we should resort to Bizarre and Outlandish theories. Yeah but you stated fact that isn't fact. When we as a 'more' advanced technological society cannot replicate the achievements of an ancient society in the infancy of the human civilisation no theory or thought should be overlooked. Just because we think something is fanciful doesn't mean it is. A fairly robust theory I like is that the pyramids were agricultural machines generating electrical current designed for irrigation as the Nile began to deviate and the Sahara Desert began to encroach on the fertile Giza plateau endangering the lives of the Egyptians. Then there is also evidence that suggests that the Giza Pyramids were in fact built by the early Mesopotamians and the early dynastic Egyptians found and utilised them rather than built them. What fact have I stated that isn't a fact out of curiosity?" If you're referring to science being unable to replicate ancient building methods in regards to the construction of the pyramids. I'd advise you delve deeper down the rabbit hole. There are plenty of possible examples given as to how they could have been constructed. All readable with low tech, highschool level mathematical knowledge and lots of slave and beast power | |||
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"Watched a documentary recently They asked a civil engineer what cranes could move some of the stones estimated at 100 tones As someone who works in this area Yes we can lift this, but my god that some serious kit needed to lift that weight and move it!!" I watched a documentary on how it was done using buoyancy devices and vertical water channels, was a pretty impressive set up. | |||
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"Just that any engineer could give you loads of examples of how using animals, logs, ropes etc the pyramids could be constructed. It is widely agreed now that the rubbish we were taught at school about slaves dragging blocks of 20 tonnes and upwards on logs across wet sand while possible was in no way practical and wouldn't have been possible. Similarly elephants carrying those weights up hill would require so many harnessed together that the distance required and surface area to attach to the blocks makes it might on impossible. Yeah they can cut granite with tooling available in the era of Khufu, if you believe he built the great pyramid, and sand but watch the demonstrations. They cut millimetres in hours. Its totally fanciful and not at all feasible that these methods were used. Or indeed could be. " I disagree. | |||
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"Watched a documentary recently They asked a civil engineer what cranes could move some of the stones estimated at 100 tones As someone who works in this area Yes we can lift this, but my god that some serious kit needed to lift that weight and move it!! I watched a documentary on how it was done using buoyancy devices and vertical water channels, was a pretty impressive set up." There have been working models to show how a series of locks in the tunnels and chambers could be used to float the blocks up by boat. Very interesting. The similarities of the area and some of Tesla's theories regarding harnessing natural energy are at the very least intriguing. | |||
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"Just that any engineer could give you loads of examples of how using animals, logs, ropes etc the pyramids could be constructed. It is widely agreed now that the rubbish we were taught at school about slaves dragging blocks of 20 tonnes and upwards on logs across wet sand while possible was in no way practical and wouldn't have been possible. Similarly elephants carrying those weights up hill would require so many harnessed together that the distance required and surface area to attach to the blocks makes it might on impossible. Yeah they can cut granite with tooling available in the era of Khufu, if you believe he built the great pyramid, and sand but watch the demonstrations. They cut millimetres in hours. Its totally fanciful and not at all feasible that these methods were used. Or indeed could be. I disagree." As is your right. But I'd say look down that rabbit hole again. Purely at the theories you suggest. Completely fanciful and implausible. | |||
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"Just that any engineer could give you loads of examples of how using animals, logs, ropes etc the pyramids could be constructed. It is widely agreed now that the rubbish we were taught at school about slaves dragging blocks of 20 tonnes and upwards on logs across wet sand while possible was in no way practical and wouldn't have been possible. Similarly elephants carrying those weights up hill would require so many harnessed together that the distance required and surface area to attach to the blocks makes it might on impossible. Yeah they can cut granite with tooling available in the era of Khufu, if you believe he built the great pyramid, and sand but watch the demonstrations. They cut millimetres in hours. Its totally fanciful and not at all feasible that these methods were used. Or indeed could be. I disagree. As is your right. But I'd say look down that rabbit hole again. Purely at the theories you suggest. Completely fanciful and implausible. " I give up. I'll leave the fanciful theories to the realms of conspiracy hunters. Not waste my life arguing the toss. | |||
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"Just that any engineer could give you loads of examples of how using animals, logs, ropes etc the pyramids could be constructed. It is widely agreed now that the rubbish we were taught at school about slaves dragging blocks of 20 tonnes and upwards on logs across wet sand while possible was in no way practical and wouldn't have been possible. Similarly elephants carrying those weights up hill would require so many harnessed together that the distance required and surface area to attach to the blocks makes it might on impossible. Yeah they can cut granite with tooling available in the era of Khufu, if you believe he built the great pyramid, and sand but watch the demonstrations. They cut millimetres in hours. Its totally fanciful and not at all feasible that these methods were used. Or indeed could be. I disagree. As is your right. But I'd say look down that rabbit hole again. Purely at the theories you suggest. Completely fanciful and implausible. I give up. I'll leave the fanciful theories to the realms of conspiracy hunters. Not waste my life arguing the toss." well I’ve just done a very quick cursory Google on how they built the pyramids and, on the basis of albeit quickly scanned articles, there are a number of very plausible explanations, many backed with evidence from the time (murals in tombs and ancient papyri etc) on how they were constructed by top academics who have dedicated their lives to researching it.
With all due respect to everyone on this thread, I hold the opinions of such experts on the field in higher regard than a few randomers on an Internet fuck site forum.
Go on, do a Google. It’s all there.
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"How did they get the large blue stones from South Wales across the Severn and many other rivers to where Stonehenge sits Remember you are talking 5 to 10000years ago I can't really comment as I'm a ex-combat engineer with little stone Henge knowledge, not a construction engineer. Is it a possibility that the water courses were different back then? Or that rivers could be diverted? Roll stones over logs? Incidentally.. there is a much larger site in Northern France many don't know about. looks much more impressive than Stone Henge. Don't forget.. TV programmes are made for viewing figures.. not facts. Hadn't heard of the French one. Off to look now" It's called carnac and extremely impressive lots of other dolmen and other standing stones around that area | |||
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"One of the best books i have read on the subject (and others) was finger prints of the gods by Graham Hancock it's very well wrote and does provoke a lot of thought well worth a read " Have you read the follow up Magicians off the Gods? | |||
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"One of the best books i have read on the subject (and others) was finger prints of the gods by Graham Hancock it's very well wrote and does provoke a lot of thought well worth a read Have you read the follow up Magicians off the Gods? " Yes I do tend to read a little to much my simple ambition in life is to own a house big enough to have one room just as a library | |||
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"One of the best books i have read on the subject (and others) was finger prints of the gods by Graham Hancock it's very well wrote and does provoke a lot of thought well worth a read Have you read the follow up Magicians off the Gods? Yes I do tend to read a little to much my simple ambition in life is to own a house big enough to have one room just as a library" That's what the pharaohs thought too. A big pointy library. | |||
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"One of the best books i have read on the subject (and others) was finger prints of the gods by Graham Hancock it's very well wrote and does provoke a lot of thought well worth a read Have you read the follow up Magicians off the Gods? Yes I do tend to read a little to much my simple ambition in life is to own a house big enough to have one room just as a library That's what the pharaohs thought too. A big pointy library. " That's if it was the Pharaohs who built the original pyramids
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"So can anyone explain that three of the major pyramids in Egypt which are further than the eye can see apart , ie beyond the horizon and over 26 miles apart , make a perfect equilateral triangle when viwed from the air How the hell did they manage to build them like that when they couldnt see either of the other two from the land ?? " You get a wheel, paint a line on it and count how many times it has gone round. Pretty much the same way we measure distance now really. Compass gives you a straight line. | |||
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"Exactly and the great pyramids at Giza matching Orion's belt and the shaft in the great pyramid looking straight up at Orion's belt it blows your mind the more you look into it" This one is a bit odd... because if the pyramids are as old as they say then the stars would have been in different positions so they couldn't have known it would now look a orion's belt.  | |||
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"Exactly and the great pyramids at Giza matching Orion's belt and the shaft in the great pyramid looking straight up at Orion's belt it blows your mind the more you look into it This one is a bit odd... because if the pyramids are as old as they say then the stars would have been in different positions so they couldn't have known it would now look a orion's belt. "It isn't if you look into Robert Bauval's theory he uses the stars as they would have been at the time. They no longer do but are still aligned like Orions Belt as their position relative to each other hasn't changed. | |||
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"There is more to it I would need to check but think it was 10,000 years before the Pharaohs the shaft would have lined up to Orion's belt and the same era the sphinx would have been facing the constellation leo! Also at that time the Nile Delta would have been much higher which would match the erosion on the sphinx nothing proven though "
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"So can anyone explain that three of the major pyramids in Egypt which are further than the eye can see apart , ie beyond the horizon and over 26 miles apart , make a perfect equilateral triangle when viwed from the air How the hell did they manage to build them like that when they couldnt see either of the other two from the land ?? " String? | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this?" my simplistic view on this as far as pyramids go is that to build a very tall structure in primitive (relatively speaking) times the easiest structure has the widest base possible and tapers inwards to the highest point ie a pyramid and this would have been very easy to recognise no matter what the era therefore many old structures built on massive scales would have a reasonable expectation of being pyramid shaped. | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now." The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. " It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks " It's not pseudoscience. It's scale. If you overlay them to scale they line up. | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks It's not pseudoscience. It's scale. If you overlay them to scale they line up. " I am nit fully up to speed on the in's and out's of the pyramid layouts but if one looks for a sequence in pretty much anything whether it be numeric or alphabetic then one can find said sequences whether they were intended or not. | |||
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"To be fair you could take 3 rocks, throw them on the ground any way you like and find a constellation they line up with. We really have no idea except that they wanted to... For a while... They were 5 days short on the days in a year, didn't really matter as spring and autumn are none events in Egypt, and planting was controlled by the river not the weather. People focus on the piles of rocks and miss the far more interesting massive statues, empire building, trade links, map making, logistical organisation, medical research etc. Did you know they probably had trade links to South America? They possibly used radiation to cure cancer and many other small facts that make the pyramids a minor achievement." I agree but that doesn't mean it's a myth that they do. On structures with such precise measurements I don't think it's so out there to question their layout. When every other measurement seems spot on it suggests there is a particular reason that they were positioned as such. No one ever said that there weren't other amazing achievements but to build a structure that still stands thousands of years later. And cannot be replicated or understood by a more technologically advanced society is no mean feat and certainly no minor achievement. It was after all the OP's intention to discuss pyramids so why not? | |||
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"Mmmm giant pyramids .... Toblerone
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks It's not pseudoscience. It's scale. If you overlay them to scale they line up. " They don't line up now and they didn't when the pyramids were built. It's all new age bs Google it | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this?" The toblerone might never have been invented without them | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks It's not pseudoscience. It's scale. If you overlay them to scale they line up. They don't line up now and they didn't when the pyramids were built. It's all new age bs Google it " So when are you defining the pyramids were built? I can google pretty much anything and come up with an answer I want. I can just as easily find genuine sources not pseudoscience who counter claim that they do align. It's a case of your expert versus mines. | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks It's not pseudoscience. It's scale. If you overlay them to scale they line up. They don't line up now and they didn't when the pyramids were built. It's all new age bs Google it So when are you defining the pyramids were built? I can google pretty much anything and come up with an answer I want. I can just as easily find genuine sources not pseudoscience who counter claim that they do align. It's a case of your expert versus mines. " If you want to think it is Orion you go for it. I have no interest in the pyramids so I'd be happy to take either view. When I read all the evidence it's clear that the Orion belt idea was conjured up 30 years ago and is just a romantic idea. As they are they don't line up with Orion or when built .I don't need to be a astroscientist to know that. The pyramids line up in straight line for a start But hey ho | |||
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"Watched a documentary recently They asked a civil engineer what cranes could move some of the stones estimated at 100 tones As someone who works in this area Yes we can lift this, but my god that some serious kit needed to lift that weight and move it!! Egyptians would have had access to elephants, horses, buffalo and loads of slaves don't forget. Not to mention the Ancient world's greatest engineers." . How many slaves do you think you'd need? | |||
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"Watched a documentary recently They asked a civil engineer what cranes could move some of the stones estimated at 100 tones As someone who works in this area Yes we can lift this, but my god that some serious kit needed to lift that weight and move it!! Egyptians would have had access to elephants, horses, buffalo and loads of slaves don't forget. Not to mention the Ancient world's greatest engineers.. How many slaves do you think you'd need?" Firstly, it is now believed they were employed not slaves and Secondly: "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." Archimedes | |||
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"Watched a documentary recently They asked a civil engineer what cranes could move some of the stones estimated at 100 tones As someone who works in this area Yes we can lift this, but my god that some serious kit needed to lift that weight and move it!! Egyptians would have had access to elephants, horses, buffalo and loads of slaves don't forget. Not to mention the Ancient world's greatest engineers.. How many slaves do you think you'd need? Firstly, it is now believed they were employed not slaves and Secondly: "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." Archimedes "Hmm like to see that Let me think in Egyptian times or earlier Ironnor bronze fulcrum, or maybe wood? Lifting 100 tonne in weight? Move on | |||
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"Watched a documentary recently They asked a civil engineer what cranes could move some of the stones estimated at 100 tones As someone who works in this area Yes we can lift this, but my god that some serious kit needed to lift that weight and move it!! Egyptians would have had access to elephants, horses, buffalo and loads of slaves don't forget. Not to mention the Ancient world's greatest engineers.. How many slaves do you think you'd need? Firstly, it is now believed they were employed not slaves and Secondly: "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." Archimedes ". You also need a lever that can hold 100 tones and of course the longer the lever the heavier the weight placed upon it. Then you need the fulcrum that can hold 100 tonnes and be able to move that fulcrum around alot so it can't weigh dozens of tonnes itself, then of course your chiseling with copper tools that blunt extremely quickly so you need alot of stone masons plus skilled people to make and sharpen the tools plus people to feed those skilled people plus people to administer plus guard plus housing plus plus plus.... And I'd throw in the entire population of the world around 6000bc was only about a million and the vast vast vast majority of them according to most archeologists were Hunter gatherers and had zero skills in building anything let alone complicated stone structures | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks It's not pseudoscience. It's scale. If you overlay them to scale they line up. They don't line up now and they didn't when the pyramids were built. It's all new age bs Google it So when are you defining the pyramids were built? I can google pretty much anything and come up with an answer I want. I can just as easily find genuine sources not pseudoscience who counter claim that they do align. It's a case of your expert versus mines. If you want to think it is Orion you go for it. I have no interest in the pyramids so I'd be happy to take either view. When I read all the evidence it's clear that the Orion belt idea was conjured up 30 years ago and is just a romantic idea. As they are they don't line up with Orion or when built .I don't need to be a astroscientist to know that. The pyramids line up in straight line for a start But hey ho " They don't line up in a straight line. Look at them from above. | |||
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"They don't line up in a straight line. Look at them from above. " I know right, it's almost like they were built on the banks of a river | |||
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"They don't line up in a straight line. Look at them from above. I know right, it's almost like they were built on the banks of a river "Has anyone at any point denied that? I actually said in an earlier post one of my favourite theories is that they were used as agricultural machines for irrigation. | |||
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"Latest science is that the blocks the pyramids are built from are effectively concrete, made from limestone. So the materials could be passed along a chain in buckets. Eliminating the 100 ton, fulcrum and lever, and probably removing an awful lot of previous speculation and marvel about cutting with brass tools, shipping etc. I have seen previously the Almec heads that puzzled people for a long time can be carved with flint when the stone is freshly quaried but oxidises over time into a hard unyielding stone. Today's Google research is the first time I have seen that the pyramid blocks were possibly cast in place from limestone dust. " . Well if that were true you'd have to explain all the cuttings only a few miles away that match 100 tonne blocks being cut out?. I don't deny they cut 100 tonne blocks and moved them and put them in place with perfection that means you couldn't put a razor blade in the gap, I just think they were far more advanced than currently archeology presumed. I don't see how we get from Hunter gatherers in 10,000bc to master stone masons in 8,000bc when you bring in the new stuff like gobelki tepi at 10,000bc or more we start to believe maybe we were far more advanced than current main stream archeology suggests | |||
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"There now seems to be lots of internet conspiracies that there are many more pyramids than we originally thought The internet a source of very accurate information is full of the subject, some found underwater. Antarctica, Slovenia , Australia? What is your thoughts on this? A pyramid is the most simple low tech way of constructing a tall building. Stack blocks on top of each other. Historical men of power need temples to their greatness.. No conspiracy.. simples. Are the Pyramids in Egypt tho built so that each stone was carved to lock into the ones around it, not sure thats simple as it sounds. there placemt to match the stars must have be difficult to Science still cannot replicate building the pyramids nor other ancient structures such as Stonehenge Fact Not fact.. more research is needed. Any Engineer could give you a number of simple examples using ropes, levers, manpower, animal power. Like I said in your other post.. you may want to lay off the conspiracies. For the record.. we landed on the moon and jet fuel will warp construction steel." We never and no it won't. | |||
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"For the record.. we landed on the moon and jet fuel will warp construction steel. We never and no it won't." No, we didn't go to the moon... But some astronaughts did, the alternative is that thousands of people can keep a secret... Which is far less credible... And wood fires can melt metal, that's how metalwork started... just need enough oxygen. Ever stood on the roof ofa high building and experienced the wind up there? Even at 20 stories its more than a pair of leather bellows. | |||
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"Orion and the pyramids is a myth Sorry try another one. They never lined up When the pyramids were built they were less of a match than now. The main three pyramids on the Giza plateau line up with Orion's belt. That cannot be argued. What can be is whether the shafts leading from the chambers truly point towards the constellation in the night sky. As far when they were built there are still legitimate arguments going on as to exactly when that was. There is no widely accepted timescale for this. It's pseudoscience. The pyramids and Orion don't line up. It's a theory that was dreamt up a few decades ago. It's a myth Google scientific sites and not ones based on woo and more bat shit new age bollocks It's not pseudoscience. It's scale. If you overlay them to scale they line up. They don't line up now and they didn't when the pyramids were built. It's all new age bs Google it So when are you defining the pyramids were built? I can google pretty much anything and come up with an answer I want. I can just as easily find genuine sources not pseudoscience who counter claim that they do align. It's a case of your expert versus mines. If you want to think it is Orion you go for it. I have no interest in the pyramids so I'd be happy to take either view. When I read all the evidence it's clear that the Orion belt idea was conjured up 30 years ago and is just a romantic idea. As they are they don't line up with Orion or when built .I don't need to be a astroscientist to know that. The pyramids line up in straight line for a start But hey ho They don't line up in a straight line. Look at them from above. " You must be looking at different pyramids. One edge on all lines up. Do you just like to be awkward for the sake of it and say opposite of what is clearly visable to all? | |||
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"Under the Sphinx is the answers to where we come from and the location of the missing city of Atlantis" Yeah, but it's 1074 miles under it... | |||
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"Under the Sphinx is the answers to where we come from and the location of the missing city of Atlantis" What film was that in? | |||
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"Not aware it's in any film.. Edgar Cayce spoke of it though " I've just had to Google him. Yeah well he sounds like someone you can trust to tell the truth haha Just goes to show people can come up with any random story and some will believe it. | |||
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"The sphinx is clearly and now widely seen as an equinoxial marker, it directly faces the sun on the spring equinox. The sphinx itself is hard to date along with the pyramids, recent new findings of water erosion suggests its older than we thought, seen as it's got a lions body and is an equinoxial marker it's perhaps a reasonable guess that it was built during the Leo constellation coinciding with the spring equinox?. That means it's maybe 5000 years older than previously thought" Are you assuming the Egyptians invented the signs of the zodiac? | |||
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"The sphinx is clearly and now widely seen as an equinoxial marker, it directly faces the sun on the spring equinox. The sphinx itself is hard to date along with the pyramids, recent new findings of water erosion suggests its older than we thought, seen as it's got a lions body and is an equinoxial marker it's perhaps a reasonable guess that it was built during the Leo constellation coinciding with the spring equinox?. That means it's maybe 5000 years older than previously thought Are you assuming the Egyptians invented the signs of the zodiac?" . No I think the precession of the equinox comes up in many stones structures all over the globe from central and south America to Africa to Asia to Europe. Anthropomorphic stories for passing on knowledge predates most known civilisations where writing didn't exist | |||
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