FabSwingers.com forum: how safe do you think your job is

By *riskygaz OP Man
over a year ago

birmingham

A women at my place of work has been there 15 years never goes off sick, has a responsible job which is stressful at times, and they have just made her redundant with very little notice, and split up her duties and given part of it to the guy who worked under her, I guess just to save on one salary.

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

That’s why you need incriminating photos of both the CEO and the HR director

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A women at my place of work has been there 15 years never goes off sick, has a responsible job which is stressful at times, and they have just made her redundant with very little notice, and split up her duties and given part of it to the guy who worked under her, I guess just to save on one salary.

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$"

I think it’s sad when someone shows that level of commitment

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Welcome to neo-liberal Britain. Your employers don't care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad news. But essentially just shows that we’re all just commodities to make money for our employers. Once our usefulness is up, most of us are discarded without a second thought.

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

"Welcome to neo-liberal Britain. Your employers don't care."

I think it’s always been the same, but they are better at fibbing these days

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"That’s why you need incriminating photos of both the CEO and the HR director

This!

That’s awful though in all seriousness. I don’t actually think hard work and loyalty count for an awful lot these days which is a real shame and probably quite a large part of what’s wrong in the world today.

I don’t think anyone is indispensable either but you can bet your arse I have a very good go at making myself as irreplaceable as I possibly can. I love my job, most of the time and my boss loves me.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$"

It certainly does make you think! No one is safe these days. Having supported senior management in my career I’ve seen this many times and there is never any good reason why they target such a committed worker. I say bring back the Unions of the 1970s to protect the workers! Ok don’t scream at me I come in peace

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$"

Sad to hear.

I like to convince myself my job is safe but the truth is anyone can be replaced.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$

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Sad to hear.

I like to convince myself my job is safe but the truth is anyone can be replaced."

I agree, unfortunately most finance managers are just looking for that window of opportunity to save a bit of money.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine not safe at all, entire dept due to be outsourced before the end of the year. Accountants think it's a good idea because the bottom line looks better, reality is that it all be a disaster and actually cost more in real terms. F*ckers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm self employed...

But my boss is a real bastard

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

I don't think I'd get sacked from my job we're short staffed as it is.

If I did I'd re train and do something I'd actually like doing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Permanent job? It's the job that may be permanent,not the person,no doubt came as a shock to the lady,perhaps a signal to other employees?

I work for one company at the mo,used to be self employed,looks like might be going back that way,qualifications,experience,contacts can get job anywhere in country,prefer temp work,got to the stage now I value my time more highly,four/five weeks hols a year doesn't come close

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"I think it’s always been the same, but they are better at fibbing these days"

Nah there were days when a company would be run into the ground for doing that, the people would have just walked out.

Thats why liberals want migration, it dissolves local national pride. If you move to London for a job, and work in a company, and you do not view London as your home, and Frank gets the sack, you don't complain, cause Frank is just some guy you only say hi to every now and again and you got your own shit to deal with.

If you go into a company that is full of people living in the same place born and bred, and you treat one unfairly, see how long your company lasts.

Thats why some of the richest men in the world want the EU to erode nationalities, and to import as many people as possible. On the surface they look to be doing kind things, but these agendas can have motives as dark as white nationalism etc.

Obviously the best place is in the middle, where people have a degree of local and national pride, and accept that they need people coming in to help them etc etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know mine isn’t. My CEO hates me

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

We've both been made redundant me twice, the last time I volunteered for it. Mr N has been made redundant 6 times in a 44 year working life.

It's never fair or right or easy to deal with but it's easier to get rid of one higher paid person and distribute their responsibilities than get rid of two lower paid people.

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough

Thats why liberals want migration, it dissolves local national pride.

Thats why some of the richest men in the world want the EU to erode nationalities, and to import as many people as possible.

On the surface they look to be doing kind things, but these agendas can have motives as dark as white nationalism etc."

Nail.

Head.

Hammer.

It's all about a small number of individuals making as much money as possible.

They don't give a flying fuck about individuals, and are simply interested in the balance sheet.

You are expensive in almost any job, and expendable.

Cheaper labour is, for them, a wet dream.

Lack of unionisation, erosion of worker's rights and governmental indifference are the cherries on top of the trifle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not at all

Dont trust anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My father always told me you’re only a number and can be replaced in a heartbeat.

My job isn’t safe, so I’m kind of prepared that I might lose It within the next two years. I’ve started looking at other options and might jump ship sooner rather than later.

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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I work for the NHS...I never think my job is safe!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mines a self employed as and when job so could all stop tomorrow. Considering a retrain for something else to take me through to retirement age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not safe at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I started working in a golf club 11 years ago, I started off in the pro shop, I said to the guy that had been there ten years why he was still just working behind the bar and in the shop and he said to me ‘when you get to the top there isn’t anywhere else to go’ and he was right, when I got to the top 6 years later, with new bosses I knew they were on the verge of sacking me because I had shown them how to do everything and had no need for me. Paying me a very nice wage when they could do it themselves, they were arseholes of the highest degree, so I went and found another job, completely different, took a very big pay cut but I wasn’t giving those two twats the satisfaction!

Again with my new job, I have a new boss and she’s very much ‘your best friend’ to the people she wants to be but I’m treading very carefully not to be sucked into this whole ‘your tops gorgeous’ trying to friend me etc, I’ve seen it far too many times.

Geeky x

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

my jobs quite safe atm .. they couldnt ever replace me with a machine and theres a massive skills shortage ..

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By *icassolifelikeMan
over a year ago

Luton

It’s not. It’s run by government and they’re dickheads!

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By *llNatural36FWoman
over a year ago

Denbighshire

Mine is far from safe, my line manager changes her mind like the weather and I'm a zero hour.I'm taking all the training offered and keeping my mouth shut but will see what happens on my next support session

got to think about paying the bills then look for something more secure

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By *queekyCheesyCouple
over a year ago

newark

Is my job safe?

Do you want your heating fixed or not?

I think its safe..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have been made redundant twice in my life. It isn't pleasant. The worst thing in when the employers turn up the heat in the hope you will resign to save them money. I was once in a team of over 220 and only 15 were left at the the end. The process took 2 years and it didn't matter how hard you worked because the decisions had already been taken. Things are fine now but I won't forget those experiences.

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By *rincessvenusCouple
over a year ago

Hull

were all just one pay day away from being skint

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By *ickymac52Man
over a year ago

newry

My job is fairly safe due to shortages in the labour market but at my age the Job is too physical.I have an interview next week for something easier but with a 50% pay cut. Should still be a better option though.

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

Made redundant twice in a Year wasn’t pleasant but thankfully always found another pretty quick.

I hope she got a good redundancy package?

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

My job is safe. Longevity of service is the norm at my workplace.

Apart from part timers staff have been here between 9 & 21 years.

My predecessor was here 6 yrs and only left owing to death in immediate family and had to move away.

Family owned business, great team, best boss and job ever. Couldn't be happier and 3 years to retirement.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think there are few if any jobs that are secure, as technology can replace much of what people do. I'm expendable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine isn't. I'm in education and love the job but due to cuts by local government funding it's ridiculous. But love my students and they shouldn't suffer. Sorry shouldn't I give job away on here? Love the job but ran by assholes on big money who haven't got a clue. Sorry rant over just had a shit day. Apologise again.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Mine isn't. I'm in education and love the job but due to cuts by local government funding it's ridiculous. But love my students and they shouldn't suffer. Sorry shouldn't I give job away on here? Love the job but ran by assholes on big money who haven't got a clue. Sorry rant over just had a shit day. Apologise again.

Especially not with your staff lanyard clearly on view.

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By *lla_maiWoman
over a year ago

staffordshire

They could try to get rid of me. I leave when im ready

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d like to think my jobs secure as a nurse. People are always gonna get sick so there’s always a demand. He’s a chef in a posh hotel his job maybe not so secure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think my job is pretty safe in the short term, long term possibly not as I can see the company being bought out scenario taking place.

I’m middle management level, always the 1st for the chop!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Especially not with your staff lanyard clearly on view. "

Yeh but you don't know where I work.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Especially not with your staff lanyard clearly on view.

Yeh but you don't know where I work.

No I don't but the information you have given and the fact that educational establishments use different colour lanyards means that someone who lives near you might.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Especially not with your staff lanyard clearly on view.

Yeh but you don't know where I work.

No I don't but the information you have given and the fact that educational establishments use different colour lanyards means that someone who lives near you might. "

Yeh your right. How careless of me. Think I might delete picture. Never thought of it like that. Thanks.

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By *aidForSharingWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire

Even the blind can see how precarious work is for everyone these days. Highly skilled and experience = expensive employee.

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By *lymanMan
over a year ago

PLYMOUTH

Never think your anything more than a number.. i was employed for 25 yrs they made many staff cuts and re-shuffles over the years, very nervous times ...i left them to go self employed not an easy one and not for everyone, but my future is mine and mine alone ive never been happier

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By *ficouldMan
over a year ago

a quandary, could you change my mind?

"Even the blind can see how precarious work is for everyone these days. Highly skilled and experience = expensive employee."

Accounts know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Companies are run by the accountants they hold the cards, if it looks better on the books (even if it costs more) it will happen.

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By *arvestmanMan
over a year ago

Cwmbran

I'm being made redundant sometime this year, though the timescale is slipping a bit. I won't be sorry to leave and the redundancy package is decent, but there's still a lot of uncertainty afterwards.

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By *lexa999Woman
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Jobs are rarely safe these days. Maybe I've been unlucky as all 4 jobs I've had in my 28 year career, I have been made redundant from. Although the last one I volunteered my way out of the business, as I wasn't too impressed with the way things were heading.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

I feel sorry for the people that have the extra duties from the woman that was made redundant. I’m sure they won’t get a pay rise either just the stress of additional responsibility.

Loyalty and knowledge are not valued by employers at times.

There were redundancies following restructuring at my work last year so you never know what lies ahead.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I feel sorry for the people that have the extra duties from the woman that was made redundant. I’m sure they won’t get a pay rise either just the stress of additional responsibility.

Loyalty and knowledge are not valued by employers at times.

There were redundancies following restructuring at my work last year so you never know what lies ahead.

Those situations often mean taking on responsibilities above your role and pay grade too. People rarely protest because they think they're lucky it wasn't them being made redundant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The sad fact is bosses are too stupid to realise that showing such lack of loyalty to loyal employees, in turn reduces loyalty and productivity of all other staff.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"The sad fact is bosses are too stupid to realise that showing such lack of loyalty to loyal employees, in turn reduces loyalty and productivity of all other staff. "

Yep and by getting rid of experienced, long serving staff they lose out in the long run.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What annoys me is they cut staff on the lower pay scale, therefore reducing staff. So why do management never get cut. Surely less staff, less staff to manage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very few jobs are safe these days

I've got a few get out of jail cards just incase

HGV licence

PCO Licence

Etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mine not safe at all, entire dept due to be outsourced before the end of the year. Accountants think it's a good idea because the bottom line looks better, reality is that it all be a disaster and actually cost more in real terms. F*ckers!"

Just remember the good times

Boom boom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What annoys me is they cut staff on the lower pay scale, therefore reducing staff. So why do management never get cut. Surely less staff, less staff to manage."

The less slaves you have, the more whips you need to move that stone...

I have seen many managers rail on staff and dock pay for being a minute late arriving. Then turn round and ask them to work 30 minutes extra at the end of the day to get the job out the door. And for some reason they don't understand why nobody wants to...

One place I used to support was 100% dependant on their computer system. When it broke I got called to fix it. One boss used to ask how long I would be and send his staff on long lunch breaks or even send them home if appropriate, another made his team sit at their desks and wait for me to fix it... guess which one got the best productivity per staff member.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just remember the good times

Boom boom"

And make sure your hand over notes are lost or incomplete

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"What annoys me is they cut staff on the lower pay scale, therefore reducing staff. So why do management never get cut. Surely less staff, less staff to manage.

The less slaves you have, the more whips you need to move that stone...

My experience has been different in that senior and middle management are first to go because it's a greater wage saving for fewer losses.

I agree with the rest of your post though, give staff a little leeway and they'll give it back to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What annoys me is they cut staff on the lower pay scale, therefore reducing staff. So why do management never get cut. Surely less staff, less staff to manage.

The less slaves you have, the more whips you need to move that stone...

I'm at the stage were I'm not bowing down to these incompetent P ricks. It's a big wide world out there. I've always worked hard and feel I've got nothing in return while bellends get promoted. Awww I'm fuckin ranting here, I apologise.

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

I work for a supermarket that announced redundancies last week.

They are cutting the number of managers by half and getting rid of all team leaders/department supervisors.

In my store many of the team leaders have been with the company since leaving school with some having 25+ years loyalty to the company.

I dread to think what it will be like working (or shopping) there in a few months when they have got rid of everyone. It's the team leaders who seem to do the most and keep everything running smoothly.

I don't think my job us at risk at the moment but you never know.

Thankfully I don't rely on my job, it is just 12 hrs a week to give me a break from looking after my mum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I work for a supermarket that announced redundancies last week.

They are cutting the number of managers by half and getting rid of all team leaders/department supervisors.

In my store many of the team leaders have been with the company since leaving school with some having 25+ years loyalty to the company.

I don't think my job us at risk at the moment but you never know.

Thankfully I don't rely on my job, it is just 12 hrs a week to give me a break from looking after my mum. "

I'm sorry to hear that and hope you get kept on. Sorry for your colleagues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm safe until my petrol tanker blows up..... then i guess I'm fired lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mines gonna disappear soon. Am starting freelance work. But then it takes ages to get paid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

M&S and Coca Cola are going ahead with a few closures and as a result there are lots of people’s jobs at risk.. no not risk.. people are gong to be jobless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

where I work has a for sale board on it think I might be screwed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"where I work has a for sale board on it think I might be screwed "

Could be an office relocation or you will stay there but business will be sold.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm safe until my petrol tanker blows up..... then i guess I'm fired lol."

Yes me brother! The Tanker! Wait for the electric cars

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm safe until my petrol tanker blows up..... then i guess I'm fired lol.

Yes me brother! The Tanker! Wait for the electric cars

It'll never catch on..... just like betamax and laser discs .

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple
over a year ago

South Wales

The secret is to have a skill or a talent that is difficult to match and which can't be automated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get work off agencies, in construction. No loyalty or Job security, whatsoever.

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

"I get work off agencies, in construction. No loyalty or Job security, whatsoever."

Me to, it’s up to me to keep my job, I realise I’m only a number but if I make them money I’ve got a better chance of keeping my job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no am truly fucked if sold lol

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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago

Germany / Manchester

"The secret is to have a skill or a talent that is difficult to match and which can't be automated."

Exactly, fortunately I have a successful role in the creative field, though it’s been tested several times, creativity is extremely difficult to automate. Working for my own company, I’m able to adapt when I see fit.

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By *ooking4othersMan
over a year ago

Here ...

Its not as simple as some think. I'm nearing the end of a Corporate restructure which has resulted in us making staff reductions and moving certain positions to low cost centres elsewhere. If we didn't do it then the company would have ran out of cash within 18 months so its better to sacrifice the few to better the many. And if you think its nice telling people to their face that they're losing their job ... think again .. its a horrendous experience!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Zero hours contract. I work damn hard, show complete loyalty. Only two jobs I can't do within my workplace.

My job could be gone tomorrow, I've witnessed them do it to others. They really don't care!

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

The days of a job for life have long gone!

No one owes you a living but it is annoying when loyalty is repaid with redundancy.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

My job is safe at the moment but accept that that could change in the blink of an eye. I have had a career which I got to the top of but these days I value my free time. I will give my all when in work but I arrive and leave on time.

I tell people that nobody is irreplaceable and anybody who tries is a fool. Similarly any company that allows a person to become irreplaceable is heading for disaster because sooner or later that person will leave or drop down dead and then the problems start. It happen in a company Mrs T worked for a few years ago and the company nearly went to the wall as the guy had all the knowledge in his head and he took it to the grave.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The OP underlines why "work to live" is more important than "live to work".

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

As employers we see it from both sides.

Loyalty works both ways and there are lots out there who abuse the system with sickness and the claims culture today.

We like to think we look after our staff and treat them as we would like to be treated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sad news. But essentially just shows that we’re all just commodities to make money for our employers. Once our usefulness is up, most of us are discarded without a second thought. "

Bang on! Sad but true. I worked for a 'charity' for fifteen years. Tripled it's size then became ill and was disposed if very quickly!

Fanny's

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Freelance, so I have no job security whatsoever. But I'm good at what I do and work in a labour fluid industry so I think my employment opportunities are pretty secure.

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

I am far from safe. In fact its pretty scary. Cuts have seen community/ youth services disappear at an alarming rate.

My current post is funded by Europe and I doubt very much we will be refunded.

The Government made a promise to replace European funding once we left the EU but we have been informed by the Home Office that this is unlikely.

Time to rethink my aspirations which is a great shame after years of study and dedication.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In an ever increasingly saturated market that I'm in, I'm far from safe. So I'm always on the browse for other work opportunities. I work part time alongside running my business which keeps money coming in, keeping the wolves from the front door.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I think it's incredibly naive of anyone to think they are safe in their job these days.

Except the Queen perhaps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My job is so shit they can't even get Albanians to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's incredibly naive of anyone to think they are safe in their job these days.

Except the Queen perhaps. "

And undertakers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strong and stable.. Robots are coming peeps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$"

Same thing happened to my mum but she was there 31 years, there 3 people doing her job but they wanted to downsize it to 2 so made the 3 of them redundant and told them they could reapply if they wanted to

It pretty scary to be honest

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Its not as simple as some think. I'm nearing the end of a Corporate restructure which has resulted in us making staff reductions and moving certain positions to low cost centres elsewhere. If we didn't do it then the company would have ran out of cash within 18 months so its better to sacrifice the few to better the many. And if you think its nice telling people to their face that they're losing their job ... think again .. its a horrendous experience! "

I've no doubt that for people with any humanity it is awful however for faceless HR departments its a case of scoring people on a points system and getting a designated person to give out the news. Also if you feel its horrendous for you who will get up and go to work the next morning, you can at least double the horror for the person you're telling.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$

It pretty scary to be honest "

That situation is frightening and humiliating for all three but most humiliating for the person who is unsuccessful.

It doesn't matter how redundancy is presented corporately its an extremely unpleasant experience. The person often feels they're a failure, colleagues have a subtle change of attitude towards you as of you're somehow tainted and the worry and stress of not having a job can't be underestimated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got laid off by a company that made safes..true story

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

increase in pension from 1% to 2% contribution coming in wont help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Self employed with lots of different clients, so pretty safe!

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By *inks_apeyCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Hmm sounds very similar to what's happening in my company at the minute. Worst is its managers this time and senior managers too

Makes you think it could happen to any off us :-$"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My job could very easily go this year, there's alot of things up in the air and alot of uncertainty surrounding us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My job could very easily go this year, there's alot of things up in the air and alot of uncertainty surrounding us. "

Same. What will be, will be...

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By *utie91Woman
over a year ago

Hitchin

My job will always be there in some form... the title may change, the employer name may change at some point, but the job will always be there... luckily I do something that the population can’t live without

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

Very few people have real security unfortunately. Even people in roles which were traditionally thought of as a job for life are finding out that it’s not.

Hubby is a postie and many of his colleagues have 30+ years in the job. When Royal Mail was privatised there was a rationalisation and a lot of his friends took voluntary redundancy as the package offered was exceptional. Full time posties have now been replaced by part timers.

I work for RM in their Parcelforce section and my contract is a 6 month rolling contract as they are unable to issue permanent at the moment. I’m not too worried about security at the moment though as hubby was the same for the first 5 years he worked there!

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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago

Swindon

We're all a bad month away from being made redundant.....happened twice to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty certain I'm safe, for the next four years at least anyway

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