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"What the hell happened?! " Full story available on line. | |||
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"Opportunist women saw an opportunity for to sell a story/attain an out of court settlement." hope you weren't planning on meeting any women in the future | |||
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"Opportunist women saw an opportunity for to sell a story/attain an out of court settlement.hope you weren't planning on meeting any women in the future " Well said. Men who don't respect women as equals should be strung up by the balls. Men should remember their Mother's are women!!! | |||
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"Opportunist women saw an opportunity for to sell a story/attain an out of court settlement." Is this why you prefer women being shy and timid? So they don’t complain when men grope and sexually assault them? | |||
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"What the hell happened?! Full story available on line." It was the biggest story yesterday.. | |||
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"Opportunist women saw an opportunity for to sell a story/attain an out of court settlement." She was a reporter working under cover - she was doing her job!! | |||
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"Opportunist women saw an opportunity for to sell a story/attain an out of court settlement. She was a reporter working under cover - she was doing her job!! " If it wasn’t for her the story wouldn’t have come out and it will still be happening next year and the tear after. Like it has been happening for past 33 years. She’s my hero. | |||
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" It was the biggest story yesterday.. " Which means BoJo will bimble about in Parliament today and make inane comments on something utterly unrelated and divert the media attention from it today so that its chip wrapping paper tomorrow.. Not that anyone uses newspapers to wrap chips any more.. Oh look a squirrel! | |||
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"Opportunist women saw an opportunity for to sell a story/attain an out of court settlement.Rightly or wrongly I listened to this unravel on the Jeremy Vine show and quite a few women felt the same.The lady who made the complaint was paid to attend the party as a hostess Is this why you prefer women being shy and timid? So they don’t complain when men grope and sexually assault them?" | |||
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" It was the biggest story yesterday.. Which means BoJo will bimble about in Parliament today and make inane comments on something utterly unrelated and divert the media attention from it today so that its chip wrapping paper tomorrow.. Not that anyone uses newspapers to wrap chips any more.. Oh look a squirrel! " Deserves the honour of discussion among the swingers community as there are swinging clubs too.. about time men learnt how to behave | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. " Correction. They were hostesses. | |||
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"Yes it does, one of the reasons why I won't do clubs anymore is because of the shocking behaviour of the "single" guys who turn up and expect instant unsafe play because they don't know any better (because they don't get educated on etiquette or try to play the Every one loves the Bad Boy card.) " Well said... Exact reason I don’t play at clubs too | |||
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"Totally disgusting , but have you ever seen ladies on a hen night or at a male strip bar # level playing field for all " Exactly! | |||
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"Totally disgusting , but have you ever seen ladies on a hen night or at a male strip bar # level playing field for all " This wasn't a hen night or strip bar. I don't condone women groping men for the record but don't compare strip bars to charity fund raisers. | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses." So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped?" I don’t think he means that. He just made a correction. No need for where you are gong with it. | |||
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"Totally disgusting , but have you ever seen ladies on a hen night or at a male strip bar # level playing field for all " So what are you saying? | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? I don’t think he means that. He just made a correction. No need for where you are gong with it. " It was a she and I want to know why the correction had to be pointed out. What’s the difference between a waitress and a hostess? | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped?" The whole point of the event was to get a large group of wealthy men together and give them what they need to relax and make them feel generous....that means lots of booze, an atmosphere of rampant testosterone and beautiful women floating around in cute skimpy dresses being friendly to them. I am amazed that everyone is now expressing such shock and disbelief that groping and sexual advances were rife in the room! I've been a hostess at events like this and you expect hands on your ass and d*unken leering... | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? I don’t think he means that. He just made a correction. No need for where you are gong with it. It was a she and I want to know why the correction had to be pointed out. What’s the difference between a waitress and a hostess?" Waitress serves food and drink Hostess is there to welcome the guests Hope this answers your question | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? The whole point of the event was to get a large group of wealthy men together and give them what they need to relax and make them feel generous....that means lots of booze, an atmosphere of rampant testosterone and beautiful women floating around in cute skimpy dresses being friendly to them. I am amazed that everyone is now expressing such shock and disbelief that groping and sexual advances were rife in the room! I've been a hostess at events like this and you expect hands on your ass and d*unken leering... " How sad that that is what it takes for rich men to be generous towards charities | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? I don’t think he means that. He just made a correction. No need for where you are gong with it. It was a she and I want to know why the correction had to be pointed out. What’s the difference between a waitress and a hostess? Waitress serves food and drink Hostess is there to welcome the guests Hope this answers your question " It's my understanding that their predominant "official" duties were serving drinks and canapes, which sounds an awful lot like waitresses to me. But, as ever with internet differences of opinion, semantics and pedantry are far far more important than the issue at hand. | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? I don’t think he means that. He just made a correction. No need for where you are gong with it. It was a she and I want to know why the correction had to be pointed out. What’s the difference between a waitress and a hostess? Waitress serves food and drink Hostess is there to welcome the guests Hope this answers your question " Not that different then. | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? I don’t think he means that. He just made a correction. No need for where you are gong with it. It was a she and I want to know why the correction had to be pointed out. What’s the difference between a waitress and a hostess? Waitress serves food and drink Hostess is there to welcome the guests Hope this answers your question It's my understanding that their predominant "official" duties were serving drinks and canapes, which sounds an awful lot like waitresses to me. But, as ever with internet differences of opinion, semantics and pedantry are far far more important than the issue at hand. " | |||
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"As far as I can tell, a gang of millionaires and billionaires like to sexually assault waitresses, and got called out on it. Correction. They were hostesses. So being a hostess means they were supposed to get groped? I don’t think he means that. He just made a correction. No need for where you are gong with it. It was a she and I want to know why the correction had to be pointed out. What’s the difference between a waitress and a hostess? Waitress serves food and drink Hostess is there to welcome the guests Hope this answers your question Not that different then." Hahahahaha okay then | |||
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"It’s definitely distasteful and anachronistic, and also brings up questions of power imbalance. I do wonder what the other hostesses think, though, rather than the undercover reporter? Were they fully aware of what they were being employed to do, and did this with full consent? If so, then there is an argument that it is their choice. The story would have more weight (sorry I didn’t read it so may have been covered in there) if they had complained. Twat" there have been interviews with a couple who attended in previous years, one never worked for the agency again, and the other refused any jobs at that hotel, and a few more today.....its easy enough to say they should have complained but i think its important to bear in mind these women were hired though agencies that, had they complained,probably wouldnt give them anymore work...they are not on high wages, most are young, and felt very intimidated. If you are relying on agency hours, never knowing when you'l get work, , its easier said than done to decide to be the one to stick your head above the parapet and risk not being able to pay their rent the next week. Dont think i'd have done that at 20.. | |||
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"It’s definitely distasteful and anachronistic, and also brings up questions of power imbalance. I do wonder what the other hostesses think, though, rather than the undercover reporter? Were they fully aware of what they were being employed to do, and did this with full consent? If so, then there is an argument that it is their choice. The story would have more weight (sorry I didn’t read it so may have been covered in there) if they had complained. Twat" I think the fact that they had to sign a non disclosure agreement has something to do with the others not coming forward. | |||
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"It’s definitely distasteful and anachronistic, and also brings up questions of power imbalance. I do wonder what the other hostesses think, though, rather than the undercover reporter? Were they fully aware of what they were being employed to do, and did this with full consent? If so, then there is an argument that it is their choice. The story would have more weight (sorry I didn’t read it so may have been covered in there) if they had complained. Twat I think the fact that they had to sign a non disclosure agreement has something to do with the others not coming forward." No non disclosure agreement can stop a victim of any crime to come forward. As little as Grabbing somebody’s hand is assault. | |||
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"It’s definitely distasteful and anachronistic, and also brings up questions of power imbalance. I do wonder what the other hostesses think, though, rather than the undercover reporter? Were they fully aware of what they were being employed to do, and did this with full consent? If so, then there is an argument that it is their choice. The story would have more weight (sorry I didn’t read it so may have been covered in there) if they had complained. Twat there have been interviews with a couple who attended in previous years, one never worked for the agency again, and the other refused any jobs at that hotel, and a few more today.....its easy enough to say they should have complained but i think its important to bear in mind these women were hired though agencies that, had they complained,probably wouldnt give them anymore work...they are not on high wages, most are young, and felt very intimidated. If you are relying on agency hours, never knowing when you'l get work, , its easier said than done to decide to be the one to stick your head above the parapet and risk not being able to pay their rent the next week. Dont think i'd have done that at 20.." Oh definitely agree, and this is the power issue of course. Non-disclosure agreements aren’t valid if sexual assault or other crimes take place (as someone else said). The fact that it was done in the name of charity is appalling. | |||
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"It’s definitely distasteful and anachronistic, and also brings up questions of power imbalance. I do wonder what the other hostesses think, though, rather than the undercover reporter? Were they fully aware of what they were being employed to do, and did this with full consent? If so, then there is an argument that it is their choice. The story would have more weight (sorry I didn’t read it so may have been covered in there) if they had complained. Twat" They were made to sign non-disclosure agreements, they quite literally weren't allowed to complain. I had a discussion about this with a colleague this morning, in fact. He made a point that I've already heard a lot, that women sleep their way to the top "all the time" and they "probably knew what they were in for." My argument is that there were 150 hostesses, if half of them-in fact even if a hundred of them-went there planning on wanking off a few millionaires for tips, that still leaves 50 naive young girls being sexually assaulted. | |||
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"They were more like cheerleaders than hostesses.. " And you don’t grope the cheerleaders boys! They are just there to be seen or find husbands, sugar daddies etc.. and most are just there to make a living. | |||
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"People keep saying that the women were naive. Does that mean we should assume that anywhere there is a group of men we should expect to be groped or propositioned for sex? Or just around rich men? " I think it’s just a rich man thing.. if they were poor they would have been slapped and behind bars by now | |||
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"Opportunist women saw an opportunity for to sell a story/attain an out of court settlement. Is this why you prefer women being shy and timid? So they don’t complain when men grope and sexually assault them?" | |||
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