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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? " Agents' ability and box office pull of the actor/actress I'd guess. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars. "Sadly though. Had it not been for her being with Heath ledger I probably wouldn’t have heard of her either. Geeky x | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars. "Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.  | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars. "Never heard of her. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office. "Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2. "She hasn’t been in lots and lots of ‘mainstream films’ though, lots of smaller films and the ones she has done that’s been bigger she has had the Oscars nods for, she’s a brilliant actress but still will be known mainly for heath and brokeback mountain. Plus also wouldn’t have been agents etc do the backwards and forwarding for this? I don’t know the ins and out. They gave up thanksgiving though I know that much x | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract." Since these gender pay discrepancies are pretty consistent across Hollywood and TV and the same agents are involved it seems like the problem isn't with her. | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. Since these gender pay discrepancies are pretty consistent across Hollywood and TV and the same agents are involved it seems like the problem isn't with her. " Whoever she is. | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story? "I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it? | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story?
I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?"she is famous, even if you've never heard of her.One of the current highest profile actresses | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
She hasn’t been in lots and lots of ‘mainstream films’ though, lots of smaller films and the ones she has done that’s been bigger she has had the Oscars nods for, she’s a brilliant actress but still will be known mainly for heath and brokeback mountain.
Plus also wouldn’t have been agents etc do the backwards and forwarding for this? I don’t know the ins and out.
They gave up thanksgiving though I know that much x"But my response was to the person who said winning is the most important. | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story?
I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?"The industry claims films with female leads don't sell. They claim films without established star leads don't sell. They say female directors can't make films people want to see. The biggest grossing film last year? Wonder Woman. The industry invents excuses to hide its prejudices. | |||
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I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?
The industry claims films with female leads don't sell.
They claim films without established star leads don't sell.
They say female directors can't make films people want to see.
The biggest grossing film last year? Wonder Woman.
The industry invents excuses to hide its prejudices. "I would pay to watch Gal Gadot read the phonebook for 2 hrs! | |||
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I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?
she is famous, even if you've never heard of her.One of the current highest profile actresses "If she thought that her fee wasn't high enough she wouldn't have taken the job. Whoever the fuck she is. | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story?
I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?
The industry claims films with female leads don't sell.
They claim films without established star leads don't sell.
They say female directors can't make films people want to see.
The biggest grossing film last year? Wonder Woman.
The industry invents excuses to hide its prejudices. "wasn't it beauty and the beast? | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2. "You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw. | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story?
I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?
The industry claims films with female leads don't sell.
They claim films without established star leads don't sell.
They say female directors can't make films people want to see.
The biggest grossing film last year? Wonder Woman.
The industry invents excuses to hide its prejudices. wasn't it beauty and the beast?"Star wars according to imdb. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw."Of course he is! Mark wahlberg or.... Michelle.... somebody? I dunno? Who the fuck is she? | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story?
I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?
The industry claims films with female leads don't sell.
They claim films without established star leads don't sell.
They say female directors can't make films people want to see.
The biggest grossing film last year? Wonder Woman.
The industry invents excuses to hide its prejudices. "It was beauty and the beast actually, but that was another female led movie. | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story?
I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?
The industry claims films with female leads don't sell.
They claim films without established star leads don't sell.
They say female directors can't make films people want to see.
The biggest grossing film last year? Wonder Woman.
The industry invents excuses to hide its prejudices.
It was beauty and the beast actually, but that was another female led movie. "Oh yeah, i see star wars is split over the year change. Still female lead though? Right? | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw."I kind of blew your point out of the water, you said winning an oscar is the most important thing in Hollywood. It isn't. | |||
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"I’m not sure who she is either , and he has made some great movies , so it seems fair enough to me ." He's a peacock! You've gotta let him fly! | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw.
Of course he is! Mark wahlberg or.... Michelle.... somebody? I dunno? Who the fuck is she? "Have you ever seen, or heard of Shutter Island, Brokeback Mountain, Manchester by the sea or Dawson's creek? | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw.
Of course he is! Mark wahlberg or.... Michelle.... somebody? I dunno? Who the fuck is she?
Have you ever seen, or heard of Shutter Island, Brokeback Mountain, Manchester by the sea or Dawson's creek? "Yeah. Why? | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw.
Of course he is! Mark wahlberg or.... Michelle.... somebody? I dunno? Who the fuck is she?
Have you ever seen, or heard of Shutter Island, Brokeback Mountain, Manchester by the sea or Dawson's creek? "Didn't lead any of those whereas Marky Mark has top billing in pretty much every film he's in, of course he's getting paid more. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw.
Of course he is! Mark wahlberg or.... Michelle.... somebody? I dunno? Who the fuck is she?
Have you ever seen, or heard of Shutter Island, Brokeback Mountain, Manchester by the sea or Dawson's creek?
Yeah. Why? "She was in all of those. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Winning an Oscar is the important thing to Hollywood and the box office.
Mark Wahlberg has been nominated for 2.
You've made my point about the Oscars, albeit backhandedly! He obviously is a bigger box office draw.
Of course he is! Mark wahlberg or.... Michelle.... somebody? I dunno? Who the fuck is she?
Have you ever seen, or heard of Shutter Island, Brokeback Mountain, Manchester by the sea or Dawson's creek?
Yeah. Why?
She was in all of those. "So what? Dawson's creek?  | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? Michelle who? She's been nominated for 4 oscars.
Never heard of her. "She was in dawsons creek I think | |||
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"I’m not sure who she is either , and he has made some great movies , so it seems fair enough to me . He's a peacock! You've gotta let him fly!" Oh my god this made me chuckle | |||
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"I’m not sure who she is either , and he has made some great movies , so it seems fair enough to me . He's a peacock! You've gotta let him fly! Oh my god this made me chuckle "I love the other guys!  | |||
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"How do people not know who Michelle Williams is..... you need to all go watch Manchester by the Sea and be educated, Oscar winner? She made me cry so gets my vote " Never heard of it | |||
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"She did an interview where she said she did the reshoot for free because she felt it was so important that it was redone after the Spacey allegations. The figures are nothing to do with her earning power and I would guess the $1000 is an agent fee or some fixed cost she incurred rather than for her time. " Mystery solved. | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor." How much did she get paid overall for the film? | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor." They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. | |||
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"How come you only have a problem with the pay gap between Wahlberg and Williams? What about the gap between Whlberg and any one of the other male roles? " Doesn't fit her narrative. | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. " Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x " or even role | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? " Because she agreed to it and his agent negotiated better ? | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x " And they are actually famous. | |||
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"She did an interview where she said she did the reshoot for free because she felt it was so important that it was redone after the Spacey allegations. The figures are nothing to do with her earning power and I would guess the $1000 is an agent fee or some fixed cost she incurred rather than for her time. " Would like to see what she demands if this happens again if and when she becomes "known", bet it won't be just for "costs" | |||
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"Sounds like she's shit at negotiating a contract. That's what you take away from this story?
I don't know who she is. I know who the other fella is. Id expect the famous one to get paid more. That's how the industry works isn't it?
The industry claims films with female leads don't sell.
They claim films without established star leads don't sell.
They say female directors can't make films people want to see.
The biggest grossing film last year? Wonder Woman.
The industry invents excuses to hide its prejudices. wasn't it beauty and the beast?
Star wars according to imdb."Wonder Woman was 12th. According to imdb. | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x And they are actually famous. "Clem, how arrogant have you got to be to make this thread all about you, and imply that someone is only famous if you have heard of them? She is well known, and considered very talented based on the fact that she has beem nominated for four oscars. The fact that you have never heard of her is irrelevant. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? " Who is Michelle Williams? See that’s how it happens. Thank me later | |||
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"She did an interview where she said she did the reshoot for free because she felt it was so important that it was redone after the Spacey allegations. The figures are nothing to do with her earning power and I would guess the $1000 is an agent fee or some fixed cost she incurred rather than for her time. Would like to see what she demands if this happens again if and when she becomes "known", bet it won't be just for "costs" "'when she becomes known'?? she's one of the top billed actresses around and has been very well known for a few years. | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x And they are actually famous.
Clem, how arrogant have you got to be to make this thread all about you, and imply that someone is only famous if you have heard of them? She is well known, and considered very talented based on the fact that she has beem nominated for four oscars. The fact that you have never heard of her is irrelevant. "FFS what is the definition of famous in the world of acting if it isn't being known?!!? | |||
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"This was on Wikipedia: While it was initially reported that the actors filmed the reshoots for free,[33] it was later revealed that Wahlberg was paid $1.5 million while Williams only received $800 in per diems, as she was contractually obligated to appear in reshoots, while Wahlberg was not.[34][32] Wahlberg's contract allowed him to approve co-stars, and he reportedly refused to approve Plummer as Spacey's replacement unless he was paid extra.[35] In response to the backlash brought on by the difference in the actors' pay, Wahlberg announced he would donate the $1.5 million to the Time's Up movement.[36] Geeky x" If wiki is correct, then it’s about contract negotiation of the nth degree of detail. I can’t imagine the reshoot clause would have been a deal breaker so I can’t see why This would have been a male/female specific clause ... | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x And they are actually famous.
Clem, how arrogant have you got to be to make this thread all about you, and imply that someone is only famous if you have heard of them? She is well known, and considered very talented based on the fact that she has beem nominated for four oscars. The fact that you have never heard of her is irrelevant.
FFS what is the definition of famous in the world of acting if it isn't being known?!!? "As far as I'm aware, clem isn't an official authority of who is and isn't famous. | |||
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"This was on Wikipedia: While it was initially reported that the actors filmed the reshoots for free,[33] it was later revealed that Wahlberg was paid $1.5 million while Williams only received $800 in per diems, as she was contractually obligated to appear in reshoots, while Wahlberg was not.[34][32] Wahlberg's contract allowed him to approve co-stars, and he reportedly refused to approve Plummer as Spacey's replacement unless he was paid extra.[35] In response to the backlash brought on by the difference in the actors' pay, Wahlberg announced he would donate the $1.5 million to the Time's Up movement.[36] Geeky xIf wiki is correct, then it’s about contract negotiation of the nth degree of detail. I can’t imagine the reshoot clause would have been a deal breaker so I can’t see why This would have been a male/female specific clause ... " I do feel Mark is coming out of this bad but we don’t know he was the one asking for the money and not his ‘people’ we also don’t know for sure if mark and Michelle were aware of the pay gap, I mean do you discuss with your colleagues how much you are paid? I would think due to mark being (regardless of what everyone is saying) the bigger name he would have for paid more, he may have been in more scenes etc, if you saw this film coming out and saw mark and Michelle’s name ‘most’ people would recognise his name first so he would be the bigger pull. Michelle is a good actress and has been in a fair few good films but being nominated for Oscars doesn’t necessarily means you pull names in or appeals to everyone, I’ve watched plenty of Oscar winning films and come away thinking ‘that was shit’. I would like to know if she hadn’t of had a kid with Heath and he didn’t die etc would she still be well known? James van de beak or whatever his name is where is he? Joshua Jackson apart from a handful of teen films and being a poker player where is he? And Katie Holmes is only famous because of Tom cruise, so one of the only reason she is as famous as she is is because her ex partner died from an overdose leaving her a single mum, take all that away she probably wouldn’t have got all the roles because there are better actresses out there. Geeky x | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x And they are actually famous.
Clem, how arrogant have you got to be to make this thread all about you, and imply that someone is only famous if you have heard of them? She is well known, and considered very talented based on the fact that she has beem nominated for four oscars. The fact that you have never heard of her is irrelevant. "This thread is irrelevant. You're not comparing chalk with cheese. You may as well start a thread saying its not fair that my Lamborghini costs more than a Mondeo. So it should. And a movie star should get paid more than an unknown actor because they add more value to the production. It isn't rocket science. | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x And they are actually famous.
Clem, how arrogant have you got to be to make this thread all about you, and imply that someone is only famous if you have heard of them? She is well known, and considered very talented based on the fact that she has beem nominated for four oscars. The fact that you have never heard of her is irrelevant.
This thread is irrelevant. You're not comparing chalk with cheese. You may as well start a thread saying its not fair that my Lamborghini costs more than a Mondeo. So it should. And a movie star should get paid more than an unknown actor because they add more value to the production. It isn't rocket science. "You are projecting your ignorance (of who she is) on everyone else. | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x And they are actually famous.
Clem, how arrogant have you got to be to make this thread all about you, and imply that someone is only famous if you have heard of them? She is well known, and considered very talented based on the fact that she has beem nominated for four oscars. The fact that you have never heard of her is irrelevant.
This thread is irrelevant. You're not comparing chalk with cheese. You may as well start a thread saying its not fair that my Lamborghini costs more than a Mondeo. So it should. And a movie star should get paid more than an unknown actor because they add more value to the production. It isn't rocket science.
You are projecting your ignorance (of who she is) on everyone else. "Clem wasn’t the only person to ask who is was on this thread either, I think the point people are trying to make just because you have heard of her (or other actors etc) doesn’t mean everyone else has, I’m sure clem etc know other actors that you’ve never heard of and perhaps they have won oscars etc. It is unfair that there is a pay gap for males and females but in this instance after looking on the internet and seeing why there was a difference in pay it isn’t actually that unfair (although I do think the amount extra he got paid was ridiculous for that little amount of work but we don’t know what they initially got paid for the movie and why they had different contracts) | |||
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"She did an interview where she said she did the reshoot for free because she felt it was so important that it was redone after the Spacey allegations. The figures are nothing to do with her earning power and I would guess the $1000 is an agent fee or some fixed cost she incurred rather than for her time. " Probably union agreed minimum wage. | |||
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"She did an interview where she said she did the reshoot for free because she felt it was so important that it was redone after the Spacey allegations. The figures are nothing to do with her earning power and I would guess the $1000 is an agent fee or some fixed cost she incurred rather than for her time. Probably union agreed minimum wage. " I think it’s ‘sags’ minimum wage per day x | |||
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"I'm quite surprised that people think it's ok for a principle female actress to be paid less than 1% of the wage paid to a principle male actor. They are not comparable. Mark wahlberg is a movie star. The other is an actor. I'm surprised you find this so surprising. Also I just saw she wasn’t the first choice for the roll, angelina and Natalie Portman was asked first, Angelina is absolutely the bigger name out the three. Geeky x And they are actually famous.
Clem, how arrogant have you got to be to make this thread all about you, and imply that someone is only famous if you have heard of them? She is well known, and considered very talented based on the fact that she has beem nominated for four oscars. The fact that you have never heard of her is irrelevant.
This thread is irrelevant. You're not comparing chalk with cheese. You may as well start a thread saying its not fair that my Lamborghini costs more than a Mondeo. So it should. And a movie star should get paid more than an unknown actor because they add more value to the production. It isn't rocket science.
You are projecting your ignorance (of who she is) on everyone else.
Clem wasn’t the only person to ask who is was on this thread either, I think the point people are trying to make just because you have heard of her (or other actors etc) doesn’t mean everyone else has, I’m sure clem etc know other actors that you’ve never heard of and perhaps they have won oscars etc. It is unfair that there is a pay gap for males and females but in this instance after looking on the internet and seeing why there was a difference in pay it isn’t actually that unfair (although I do think the amount extra he got paid was ridiculous for that little amount of work but we don’t know what they initially got paid for the movie and why they had different contracts) "She doesn't like me. Usually because i won't jump into her fishing net. | |||
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"I think you have lost this battle O.P. you seem to be the only one who has an issue with how much she got paid, despite what you may think as all of the above comments have said she is a nobody, she wasnt even the first choice of actress for the job. Awards mean nothing just look at leo decaprio for example who has only just won his first oscar despite being one of the biggest names out there and starring in some of the biggest movies, some of the greats never win an oscar. Do you think someone like jennifer lawrence would have been paid like shit or do you think she would have gotten a better deal as she is a better actress, better known and a bigger name to draw in the paying customer, can bet she will have next to no screen time compared to whalberg who will star in almost every scene, more work equals more money, thats just how work works im afraid. Plus she has a shit agent with no negotiation skills but williams was happy to work for nothing so there is no problem here" So why is it being report in major outlets around the world? I'm clearly not the only one who has an issue with it. | |||
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"I think you have lost this battle O.P. you seem to be the only one who has an issue with how much she got paid, despite what you may think as all of the above comments have said she is a nobody, she wasnt even the first choice of actress for the job. Awards mean nothing just look at leo decaprio for example who has only just won his first oscar despite being one of the biggest names out there and starring in some of the biggest movies, some of the greats never win an oscar. Do you think someone like jennifer lawrence would have been paid like shit or do you think she would have gotten a better deal as she is a better actress, better known and a bigger name to draw in the paying customer, can bet she will have next to no screen time compared to whalberg who will star in almost every scene, more work equals more money, thats just how work works im afraid. Plus she has a shit agent with no negotiation skills but williams was happy to work for nothing so there is no problem here So why is it being report in major outlets around the world? I'm clearly not the only one who has an issue with it." Because the media likes to cause drama!!! It takes a few people on Twitter to have an uproar and before you know it, it’s a major outrage! | |||
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"I think you have lost this battle O.P. you seem to be the only one who has an issue with how much she got paid, despite what you may think as all of the above comments have said she is a nobody, she wasnt even the first choice of actress for the job. Awards mean nothing just look at leo decaprio for example who has only just won his first oscar despite being one of the biggest names out there and starring in some of the biggest movies, some of the greats never win an oscar. Do you think someone like jennifer lawrence would have been paid like shit or do you think she would have gotten a better deal as she is a better actress, better known and a bigger name to draw in the paying customer, can bet she will have next to no screen time compared to whalberg who will star in almost every scene, more work equals more money, thats just how work works im afraid. Plus she has a shit agent with no negotiation skills but williams was happy to work for nothing so there is no problem here So why is it being report in major outlets around the world? I'm clearly not the only one who has an issue with it." Plus the poster here clearly ignored that I didn’t say she is a nobody. And I agree, there’s a story here even if it’s about taking the story wider - whether it’s a level playing field as the posters above would like in terms of celebrity, there is still a gender pay difference that has been prevalent in Hollywood for eons. And no, that’s not okay. | |||
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"I heard she agreed to do it for that price because she felt strongly about replacing spacey given all the movements in Hollywood like metoo etc. I don't think her standing up for what she believes in should be overshadowed by mark being greedy " Where does greed come in to it. I’m sure that’s the fee his agent negotiated for him and in any case he’s given his fee away. And I bet 100% of people on here have heard of Mark Wharlberg whereas about 10% know who whatshername is, I’ve never heard of her. I’m all for equal pay when things are equal. | |||
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"I think you have lost this battle O.P. you seem to be the only one who has an issue with how much she got paid, despite what you may think as all of the above comments have said she is a nobody, she wasnt even the first choice of actress for the job. Awards mean nothing just look at leo decaprio for example who has only just won his first oscar despite being one of the biggest names out there and starring in some of the biggest movies, some of the greats never win an oscar. Do you think someone like jennifer lawrence would have been paid like shit or do you think she would have gotten a better deal as she is a better actress, better known and a bigger name to draw in the paying customer, can bet she will have next to no screen time compared to whalberg who will star in almost every scene, more work equals more money, thats just how work works im afraid. Plus she has a shit agent with no negotiation skills but williams was happy to work for nothing so there is no problem here So why is it being report in major outlets around the world? I'm clearly not the only one who has an issue with it. Plus the poster here clearly ignored that I didn’t say she is a nobody. And I agree, there’s a story here even if it’s about taking the story wider - whether it’s a level playing field as the posters above would like in terms of celebrity, there is still a gender pay difference that has been prevalent in Hollywood for eons. And no, that’s not okay. " Why should it be a level playing field? Actors seem to get paid according to their return value. Same as footballers or anyone else who gets performance based pay. I agree questions should be asked at the BBC. But should everyone get paid the same? No. | |||
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"This fake outrage. She does films nobody watches. He makes blockbusters. Why was the OP not up in arms about Williams playing opposite Casey Affleck, who had to pay off a woman he got into bed with and sexually assaulted??" Because this thread is about the gender pay gap and an example of a woman getting paid less than 1% of what a man got paid. There are other issues such as the fact that Wahlberg has been convicted for racially aggravated attempted murder, but that's not relevant to this thread. | |||
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"This fake outrage. She does films nobody watches. He makes blockbusters. Why was the OP not up in arms about Williams playing opposite Casey Affleck, who had to pay off a woman he got into bed with and sexually assaulted?? Because this thread is about the gender pay gap and an example of a woman getting paid less than 1% of what a man got paid. There are other issues such as the fact that Wahlberg has been convicted for racially aggravated attempted murder, but that's not relevant to this thread. " A woman I interviewed for a job (down to the last two) was better qualified than the bloke and negotiated well so she got the job offer on more money than the guy would have if she'd turned the offer down and he'd have got it. | |||
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"This fake outrage. She does films nobody watches. He makes blockbusters. Why was the OP not up in arms about Williams playing opposite Casey Affleck, who had to pay off a woman he got into bed with and sexually assaulted?? Because this thread is about the gender pay gap and an example of a woman getting paid less than 1% of what a man got paid. There are other issues such as the fact that Wahlberg has been convicted for racially aggravated attempted murder, but that's not relevant to this thread. " Yes,when he was 19, since been forgiven by the Vietnamese store owner. Admit it,you just like bashing successful white men. No shame in being honest. | |||
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"I think you have lost this battle O.P. you seem to be the only one who has an issue with how much she got paid, despite what you may think as all of the above comments have said she is a nobody, she wasnt even the first choice of actress for the job. Awards mean nothing just look at leo decaprio for example who has only just won his first oscar despite being one of the biggest names out there and starring in some of the biggest movies, some of the greats never win an oscar. Do you think someone like jennifer lawrence would have been paid like shit or do you think she would have gotten a better deal as she is a better actress, better known and a bigger name to draw in the paying customer, can bet she will have next to no screen time compared to whalberg who will star in almost every scene, more work equals more money, thats just how work works im afraid. Plus she has a shit agent with no negotiation skills but williams was happy to work for nothing so there is no problem here So why is it being report in major outlets around the world? I'm clearly not the only one who has an issue with it. Plus the poster here clearly ignored that I didn’t say she is a nobody. And I agree, there’s a story here even if it’s about taking the story wider - whether it’s a level playing field as the posters above would like in terms of celebrity, there is still a gender pay difference that has been prevalent in Hollywood for eons. And no, that’s not okay. Why should it be a level playing field? Actors seem to get paid according to their return value. Same as footballers or anyone else who gets performance based pay. I agree questions should be asked at the BBC. But should everyone get paid the same? No. " Not what I said. I said if the conversation had been about two actors that everyone agreed were on a celebrity recognition level playing field, then you’d likely still have a pay difference and then the conversation could be had. | |||
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"This fake outrage. She does films nobody watches. He makes blockbusters. Why was the OP not up in arms about Williams playing opposite Casey Affleck, who had to pay off a woman he got into bed with and sexually assaulted?? Because this thread is about the gender pay gap and an example of a woman getting paid less than 1% of what a man got paid. There are other issues such as the fact that Wahlberg has been convicted for racially aggravated attempted murder, but that's not relevant to this thread. A woman I interviewed for a job (down to the last two) was better qualified than the bloke and negotiated well so she got the job offer on more money than the guy would have if she'd turned the offer down and he'd have got it. " as a (silent) white knight I would say this shouldn’t be down to negotiation but reflective of being better qualified .... | |||
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"This fake outrage. She does films nobody watches. He makes blockbusters. Why was the OP not up in arms about Williams playing opposite Casey Affleck, who had to pay off a woman he got into bed with and sexually assaulted?? Because this thread is about the gender pay gap and an example of a woman getting paid less than 1% of what a man got paid. There are other issues such as the fact that Wahlberg has been convicted for racially aggravated attempted murder, but that's not relevant to this thread. " You should have chosen a more clear cut case than a relatively unknown actor with morals vs a Hollywood film star with a good agent. Just because the press are saying its outrageous is meaningless. | |||
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"This fake outrage. She does films nobody watches. He makes blockbusters. Why was the OP not up in arms about Williams playing opposite Casey Affleck, who had to pay off a woman he got into bed with and sexually assaulted?? Because this thread is about the gender pay gap and an example of a woman getting paid less than 1% of what a man got paid. There are other issues such as the fact that Wahlberg has been convicted for racially aggravated attempted murder, but that's not relevant to this thread. Yes,when he was 19, since been forgiven by the Vietnamese store owner. Admit it,you just like bashing successful white men. No shame in being honest." Why do you think that? | |||
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"I love Michelle Williams, and her movies. I’m aware of but don’t really know or rate Mark, although he was Dirk Diggler wasn’t he? I have in my mind (on the whole) that his movies are of the rather inanne, puerile and generic. Her choices are more interesting. Yes, this probably means she is less well known. I’m constantly disappointed by the taste levels of the masses. The story does need unpicking as to her reasons for the low monies for reshoot and not see it as a simple salary differential. He’s a prick for not being able to think beyond himself though. Not until called out. But you know, not atypical. " You don't really know Mark Wahlberg's movies but you can still decide them all to be inane, puerile and generic as well as castigating the "masses" with a sweeping statement as having poor taste levels. What a self opinionated, self righteous and self indulgent post. Although, I'm not particularly surprised as I've always found, of the so called liberal free thinking types, ultimately they're not and are actually more prejudiced then everyone else. | |||
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"I think you have lost this battle O.P. you seem to be the only one who has an issue with how much she got paid, despite what you may think as all of the above comments have said she is a nobody, she wasnt even the first choice of actress for the job. Awards mean nothing just look at leo decaprio for example who has only just won his first oscar despite being one of the biggest names out there and starring in some of the biggest movies, some of the greats never win an oscar. Do you think someone like jennifer lawrence would have been paid like shit or do you think she would have gotten a better deal as she is a better actress, better known and a bigger name to draw in the paying customer, can bet she will have next to no screen time compared to whalberg who will star in almost every scene, more work equals more money, thats just how work works im afraid. Plus she has a shit agent with no negotiation skills but williams was happy to work for nothing so there is no problem here So why is it being report in major outlets around the world? I'm clearly not the only one who has an issue with it. Plus the poster here clearly ignored that I didn’t say she is a nobody. And I agree, there’s a story here even if it’s about taking the story wider - whether it’s a level playing field as the posters above would like in terms of celebrity, there is still a gender pay difference that has been prevalent in Hollywood for eons. And no, that’s not okay. Why should it be a level playing field? Actors seem to get paid according to their return value. Same as footballers or anyone else who gets performance based pay. I agree questions should be asked at the BBC. But should everyone get paid the same? No. Not what I said. I said if the conversation had been about two actors that everyone agreed were on a celebrity recognition level playing field, then you’d likely still have a pay difference and then the conversation could be had. " "Likely".... I want evidence not opinion. How did Brad and Angelina's pay differ for Mr and Mrs Smith? That's gotta be a good example. | |||
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""Likely".... I want evidence not opinion. How did Brad and Angelina's pay differ for Mr and Mrs Smith? That's gotta be a good example. "I read an article a while ago which said that for Mr and Mrs Smith Brad got $20million and Angelina $10million | |||
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""Likely".... I want evidence not opinion. How did Brad and Angelina's pay differ for Mr and Mrs Smith? That's gotta be a good example.
I read an article a while ago which said that for Mr and Mrs Smith Brad got $20million and Angelina $10million"because he was the bigger name at the time, before mr and mrs smith angelina was basically only known as laura croft whereas brad had been in the business for a long time and at the time was on high demand | |||
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"I love Michelle Williams, and her movies. I’m aware of but don’t really know or rate Mark, although he was Dirk Diggler wasn’t he? I have in my mind (on the whole) that his movies are of the rather inanne, puerile and generic. Her choices are more interesting. Yes, this probably means she is less well known. I’m constantly disappointed by the taste levels of the masses. The story does need unpicking as to her reasons for the low monies for reshoot and not see it as a simple salary differential. He’s a prick for not being able to think beyond himself though. Not until called out. But you know, not atypical. You don't really know Mark Wahlberg's movies but you can still decide them all to be inane, puerile and generic as well as castigating the "masses" with a sweeping statement as having poor taste levels. What a self opinionated, self righteous and self indulgent post. Although, I'm not particularly surprised as I've always found, of the so called liberal free thinking types, ultimately they're not and are actually more prejudiced then everyone else. "Blah blah waaaaaah. You’re always trolling me, and it’s boring. | |||
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I read an article a while ago which said that for Mr and Mrs Smith Brad got $20million and Angelina $10million"If thats accurate then 'tis a bad thing. However, don't get too upset on her behalf because she won't give a crap if you can't afford your rent. | |||
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"I love Michelle Williams, and her movies. I’m aware of but don’t really know or rate Mark, although he was Dirk Diggler wasn’t he? I have in my mind (on the whole) that his movies are of the rather inanne, puerile and generic. Her choices are more interesting. Yes, this probably means she is less well known. I’m constantly disappointed by the taste levels of the masses. The story does need unpicking as to her reasons for the low monies for reshoot and not see it as a simple salary differential. He’s a prick for not being able to think beyond himself though. Not until called out. But you know, not atypical. You don't really know Mark Wahlberg's movies but you can still decide them all to be inane, puerile and generic as well as castigating the "masses" with a sweeping statement as having poor taste levels. What a self opinionated, self righteous and self indulgent post. Although, I'm not particularly surprised as I've always found, of the so called liberal free thinking types, ultimately they're not and are actually more prejudiced then everyone else.
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I read an article a while ago which said that for Mr and Mrs Smith Brad got $20million and Angelina $10million
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"I love Michelle Williams, and her movies. I’m aware of but don’t really know or rate Mark, although he was Dirk Diggler wasn’t he? I have in my mind (on the whole) that his movies are of the rather inanne, puerile and generic. Her choices are more interesting. Yes, this probably means she is less well known. I’m constantly disappointed by the taste levels of the masses. The story does need unpicking as to her reasons for the low monies for reshoot and not see it as a simple salary differential. He’s a prick for not being able to think beyond himself though. Not until called out. But you know, not atypical. You don't really know Mark Wahlberg's movies but you can still decide them all to be inane, puerile and generic as well as castigating the "masses" with a sweeping statement as having poor taste levels. What a self opinionated, self righteous and self indulgent post. Although, I'm not particularly surprised as I've always found, of the so called liberal free thinking types, ultimately they're not and are actually more prejudiced then everyone else.
Blah blah waaaaaah. You’re always trolling me, and it’s boring.
It did sound a little "I've never heard of the spice girls"...."I said I was aware of him. I am very, very aware of her as rate her movies. I’ve watched many he is (having pulled up a list) and they were all puerile and forgettable. Like certain posters. | |||
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Blah blah waaaaaah. You’re always trolling me, and it’s boring.
It did sound a little "I've never heard of the spice girls"....
I said I was aware of him. I am very, very aware of her as rate her movies. I’ve watched many he is (having pulled up a list) and they were all puerile and forgettable. Like certain posters. "No way! "The other guys" is a cracker! | |||
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some just don't understand the complexities and nuances of 'Daddy's Home' and 'Transformers' number 200"Guilty Happily so.
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" No way! "The other guys" is a cracker! Indeed.
Seriously, who is she? "She’s sexy as fuck. | |||
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She’s sexy as fuck. "Some of us value women for more than just their appearance | |||
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She’s sexy as fuck. "I wouldn’t kick you out of bed to get to her | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? " Especially as they have the same agent. | |||
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I read an article a while ago which said that for Mr and Mrs Smith Brad got $20million and Angelina $10million"If that's true that makes the point completely. Wow. | |||
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"There is no pay gap for individuals it only exists when you round up the numbers to create an average, I doubt the guy that makes my coffee in costa in the mornings makes more than the girl that makes my coffee in the afternoon, the woman who takes over the shift when I leave work makes the same money as I do. However if we judge this by averages then your average man makes more than your average woman because your average man works more dangerous and physical jobs, he is more likely to be injured or killed at work, he is more likely to work overtime whereas she is not, he is more likely to give away his holidays to coworkers whereas she is not, those holidays he gave away are more likely to be picked up by a female coworker, he is more likely to work through sickness, she is not, she has to take time off to start a family whereas he can work through it... etc, and finally if he is making more money for doing the same job as her then its because your average man is more likely to simply ask for a pay rise than your average female. " Ummm | |||
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If that's true that makes the point completely. Wow."other than Girl interrupted and the tomb raiders I think her filmography was forgettable before then. Brad had a few real zingers by then. | |||
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I read an article a while ago which said that for Mr and Mrs Smith Brad got $20million and Angelina $10million
If that's true that makes the point completely. Wow.other than Girl interrupted and the tomb raiders I think her filmography was forgettable before then. Brad had a few real zingers by then. "No way! She did that film about air traffic controllers when she got her tits out. worth every penny... | |||
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"There is no pay gap for individuals it only exists when you round up the numbers to create an average, I doubt the guy that makes my coffee in costa in the mornings makes more than the girl that makes my coffee in the afternoon, the woman who takes over the shift when I leave work makes the same money as I do. However if we judge this by averages then your average man makes more than your average woman because your average man works more dangerous and physical jobs, he is more likely to be injured or killed at work, he is more likely to work overtime whereas she is not, he is more likely to give away his holidays to coworkers whereas she is not, those holidays he gave away are more likely to be picked up by a female coworker, he is more likely to work through sickness, she is not, she has to take time off to start a family whereas he can work through it... etc, and finally if he is making more money for doing the same job as her then its because your average man is more likely to simply ask for a pay rise than your average female. Ummm" iirc (and it’s been a while since I’ve looked at depth in studies) there is a small gap when you look at homogenous groups but not as large as the headline figures. However once you get to this level you lose path dependencies... why are more men in High paying professions... why is it more likely a man chooses to work over time ... | |||
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"I love Michelle Williams, and her movies. I’m aware of but don’t really know or rate Mark, although he was Dirk Diggler wasn’t he? I have in my mind (on the whole) that his movies are of the rather inanne, puerile and generic. Her choices are more interesting. Yes, this probably means she is less well known. I’m constantly disappointed by the taste levels of the masses. The story does need unpicking as to her reasons for the low monies for reshoot and not see it as a simple salary differential. He’s a prick for not being able to think beyond himself though. Not until called out. But you know, not atypical. You don't really know Mark Wahlberg's movies but you can still decide them all to be inane, puerile and generic as well as castigating the "masses" with a sweeping statement as having poor taste levels. What a self opinionated, self righteous and self indulgent post. Although, I'm not particularly surprised as I've always found, of the so called liberal free thinking types, ultimately they're not and are actually more prejudiced then everyone else.
Blah blah waaaaaah. You’re always trolling me, and it’s boring. "If by "trolling" you mean not swallowing and blindingly believing everything people say on here just to be popular or in with the "in-crowd", then guilty as charged. But, on the other hand, if you mean being an adult and not acting like a spoilt child who takes their "ball in" if people don't do as they say and do, then not guilty. | |||
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"I love Michelle Williams, and her movies. I’m aware of but don’t really know or rate Mark, although he was Dirk Diggler wasn’t he? I have in my mind (on the whole) that his movies are of the rather inanne, puerile and generic. Her choices are more interesting. Yes, this probably means she is less well known. I’m constantly disappointed by the taste levels of the masses. The story does need unpicking as to her reasons for the low monies for reshoot and not see it as a simple salary differential. He’s a prick for not being able to think beyond himself though. Not until called out. But you know, not atypical. You don't really know Mark Wahlberg's movies but you can still decide them all to be inane, puerile and generic as well as castigating the "masses" with a sweeping statement as having poor taste levels. What a self opinionated, self righteous and self indulgent post. Although, I'm not particularly surprised as I've always found, of the so called liberal free thinking types, ultimately they're not and are actually more prejudiced then everyone else.
Blah blah waaaaaah. You’re always trolling me, and it’s boring.
If by "trolling" you mean not swallowing and blindingly believing everything people say on here just to be popular or in with the "in-crowd", then guilty as charged. But, on the other hand, if you mean being an adult and not acting like a spoilt child who takes their "ball in" if people don't do as they say and do, then not guilty."No darling, I mean trolling me. I’m not in an in-crowd so you’re not hard done by and I am fine with you not liking what I post. Stop crying. I drink the tears of old man bitterness. | |||
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"I love Michelle Williams, and her movies. I’m aware of but don’t really know or rate Mark, although he was Dirk Diggler wasn’t he? I have in my mind (on the whole) that his movies are of the rather inanne, puerile and generic. Her choices are more interesting. Yes, this probably means she is less well known. I’m constantly disappointed by the taste levels of the masses. The story does need unpicking as to her reasons for the low monies for reshoot and not see it as a simple salary differential. He’s a prick for not being able to think beyond himself though. Not until called out. But you know, not atypical. You don't really know Mark Wahlberg's movies but you can still decide them all to be inane, puerile and generic as well as castigating the "masses" with a sweeping statement as having poor taste levels. What a self opinionated, self righteous and self indulgent post. Although, I'm not particularly surprised as I've always found, of the so called liberal free thinking types, ultimately they're not and are actually more prejudiced then everyone else.
Blah blah waaaaaah. You’re always trolling me, and it’s boring.
If by "trolling" you mean not swallowing and blindingly believing everything people say on here just to be popular or in with the "in-crowd", then guilty as charged. But, on the other hand, if you mean being an adult and not acting like a spoilt child who takes their "ball in" if people don't do as they say and do, then not guilty.
No darling, I mean trolling me. I’m not in an in-crowd so you’re not hard done by and I am fine with you not liking what I post. Stop crying. I drink the tears of old man bitterness. "Who crying, darling? Nice to see your true feelings though! | |||
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"On the face of it, it looks very very wrong. But, NY times reports that Williams and several other actors immediately agreed to re-shoot for 'nothing', meaning $80 per day minumum wage. Wahlberg was the only one not to have agreed, so his agent had the production company over a barrel and shafted them for $1.5m." Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you? | |||
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"On the face of it, it looks very very wrong. But, NY times reports that Williams and several other actors immediately agreed to re-shoot for 'nothing', meaning $80 per day minumum wage. Wahlberg was the only one not to have agreed, so his agent had the production company over a barrel and shafted them for $1.5m. Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you?" Because you’re missing the point (as did Mark). | |||
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"On the face of it, it looks very very wrong. But, NY times reports that Williams and several other actors immediately agreed to re-shoot for 'nothing', meaning $80 per day minumum wage. Wahlberg was the only one not to have agreed, so his agent had the production company over a barrel and shafted them for $1.5m. Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you? They meant to give him $1.5m. I mean shafted because he was the only one who hadn't agreed to film, so they had little / no choice to agree a daft fee." Okay, now what about the question? | |||
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"On the face of it, it looks very very wrong. But, NY times reports that Williams and several other actors immediately agreed to re-shoot for 'nothing', meaning $80 per day minumum wage. Wahlberg was the only one not to have agreed, so his agent had the production company over a barrel and shafted them for $1.5m. Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you? They meant to give him $1.5m. I mean shafted because he was the only one who hadn't agreed to film, so they had little / no choice to agree a daft fee. Okay, now what about the question?" That answers the question. It’s an explanation of how the fuck it happened. | |||
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"The film All The Money in the World had to reshoot scenes after the revelations about Kevin Spacey came out. Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams were involved in the reshoot. Michelle Williams was paid $1,000 dollars, and Wahlberg was paid $1,500,000. How in the fuck could that be allowed to happen? " Same could be said about male and female tennis players, and why the women only have to do two thirds of the work to get the same money as the guys I guess.  | |||
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"On the face of it, it looks very very wrong. But, NY times reports that Williams and several other actors immediately agreed to re-shoot for 'nothing', meaning $80 per day minumum wage. Wahlberg was the only one not to have agreed, so his agent had the production company over a barrel and shafted them for $1.5m. Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you? They meant to give him $1.5m. I mean shafted because he was the only one who hadn't agreed to film, so they had little / no choice to agree a daft fee. Okay, now what about the question? I don't get what you're getting at tbh. When it comes to your own salary who has ever said "no thank you I'm paid enough already." So, if you, or the poster above, was offered a bigger bonus compared to a colleague would you say no it's not fair I want the same as them?" I would, yes. But that’s the difference between you and me. | |||
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"On the face of it, it looks very very wrong. But, NY times reports that Williams and several other actors immediately agreed to re-shoot for 'nothing', meaning $80 per day minumum wage. Wahlberg was the only one not to have agreed, so his agent had the production company over a barrel and shafted them for $1.5m. Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you? They meant to give him $1.5m. I mean shafted because he was the only one who hadn't agreed to film, so they had little / no choice to agree a daft fee. Okay, now what about the question? I don't get what you're getting at tbh. When it comes to your own salary who has ever said "no thank you I'm paid enough already." So, if you, or the poster above, was offered a bigger bonus compared to a colleague would you say no it's not fair I want the same as them? I would, yes. But that’s the difference between you and me. At no point did I bring myself into the deliberations but since you jumped to and made an assumption, I will. I believe in reward and recognition otherwise you end up on a downward spiral of dumbing down. There's nothing wrong with being aspirational and rewarding people who are, even New Labour promoted that!" When it comes to your own salary who has ever said "no thank you I'm paid enough already. You implied it. This comment. You’re making an assumption in extrapolating from my answer the above point you’re making, assuming - the thing you’re excitedly berating others for. Don’t assume my opinion. Ask. You may not come across as a troll if you did that. (But you’re well aware with me you troll, so that wouldn’t be fun, eh?) | |||
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" Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you? They meant to give him $1.5m. I mean shafted because he was the only one who hadn't agreed to film, so they had little / no choice to agree a daft fee. Okay, now what about the question? I don't get what you're getting at tbh. When it comes to your own salary who has ever said "no thank you I'm paid enough already." So, if you, or the poster above, was offered a bigger bonus compared to a colleague would you say no it's not fair I want the same as them?" I don't speak for the other poster. What I'm saying is, his agent negotiated a $1.5m fee, because the film company had little choice. It's now come out and is portrayed as 'Man got $1.5m, woman got $80' , he feels like a twat and has donated it. I'm not sure what other argument or agenda you have, I only read the OP, and posted what I knew. | |||
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"On the face of it, it looks very very wrong. But, NY times reports that Williams and several other actors immediately agreed to re-shoot for 'nothing', meaning $80 per day minumum wage. Wahlberg was the only one not to have agreed, so his agent had the production company over a barrel and shafted them for $1.5m. Why shafted? If your boss gave you a bonus of £500 but meant £5 and you had to decide to give it back would you? They meant to give him $1.5m. I mean shafted because he was the only one who hadn't agreed to film, so they had little / no choice to agree a daft fee. Okay, now what about the question? I don't get what you're getting at tbh. When it comes to your own salary who has ever said "no thank you I'm paid enough already." So, if you, or the poster above, was offered a bigger bonus compared to a colleague would you say no it's not fair I want the same as them? I would, yes. But that’s the difference between you and me. At no point did I bring myself into the deliberations but since you jumped to and made an assumption, I will. I believe in reward and recognition otherwise you end up on a downward spiral of dumbing down. There's nothing wrong with being aspirational and rewarding people who are, even New Labour promoted that! When it comes to your own salary who has ever said "no thank you I'm paid enough already. You implied it. This comment. You’re making an assumption in extrapolating from my answer the above point you’re making, assuming - the thing you’re excitedly berating others for. Don’t assume my opinion. Ask. You may not come across as a troll if you did that. (But you’re well aware with me you troll, so that wouldn’t be fun, eh?)" I've read the above several times and I genuinely can't follow your rant, but based upon your other thread I guess that's to be expected. | |||
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"This fake outrage. She does films nobody watches. He makes blockbusters. Why was the OP not up in arms about Williams playing opposite Casey Affleck, who had to pay off a woman he got into bed with and sexually assaulted?? Because this thread is about the gender pay gap and an example of a woman getting paid less than 1% of what a man got paid. There are other issues such as the fact that Wahlberg has been convicted for racially aggravated attempted murder, but that's not relevant to this thread. A woman I interviewed for a job (down to the last two) was better qualified than the bloke and negotiated well so she got the job offer on more money than the guy would have if she'd turned the offer down and he'd have got it. as a (silent) white knight I would say this shouldn’t be down to negotiation but reflective of being better qualified .... " Not at all,you're entitled to your opinion but it's a job I was interviwing for so I can do what I like the same as you could The wage was quoted and they were both qualified to do the actual job even though she was over qualified for the actual role. The job involves negotiation and that's what she did so I gave her a bit more and the job, Tbh the guy could have been the one that was better qualified and she would still have got more money and the job because she interviewed better | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment, if he can’t be done for the same crime as Harvey Weinstein etc, he’s going to be done over for something like this, if it had been the other way round would this have been an issue? Nope probably not. Like a poster said further up this thread, mark might have been tied to another contract for another film or whatever and he (or his people) negotiated a better deal, plus also reshoots wasn’t in his contract, they were for Michelle so maybe she needs to relook at her team and contracts she signs in future? " I would say whenever one human is paid less than 1% of another human for doing the same work, it shows something is seriously wrong. Who on this forum would accept getting paid less than 1% of a colleague's salary? | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment, if he can’t be done for the same crime as Harvey Weinstein etc, he’s going to be done over for something like this, if it had been the other way round would this have been an issue? Nope probably not. Like a poster said further up this thread, mark might have been tied to another contract for another film or whatever and he (or his people) negotiated a better deal, plus also reshoots wasn’t in his contract, they were for Michelle so maybe she needs to relook at her team and contracts she signs in future? I would say whenever one human is paid less than 1% of another human for doing the same work, it shows something is seriously wrong. Who on this forum would accept getting paid less than 1% of a colleague's salary? " If they did the same job (hours and work) like I used to with my colleague then yes they should get paid the same but if one of them is getting more screen time AND is the bigger draw then of course they would get paid more, if someone is doing more work. I used to do the same hours and the same things as my colleague but now I do a hell of a lot more hours and have a bigger work load so I get paid more than her, why should I get paid the same as her for doing more work than her and more hours (a lot more hours). If Mark Wahlberg worked longer hours than her, more screen time and was banking on HIS name to pull the crowds in, then he has a lot resting on his shoulders. Geeky x | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment, if he can’t be done for the same crime as Harvey Weinstein etc, he’s going to be done over for something like this, if it had been the other way round would this have been an issue? Nope probably not. Like a poster said further up this thread, mark might have been tied to another contract for another film or whatever and he (or his people) negotiated a better deal, plus also reshoots wasn’t in his contract, they were for Michelle so maybe she needs to relook at her team and contracts she signs in future? I would say whenever one human is paid less than 1% of another human for doing the same work, it shows something is seriously wrong. Who on this forum would accept getting paid less than 1% of a colleague's salary? If they did the same job (hours and work) like I used to with my colleague then yes they should get paid the same but if one of them is getting more screen time AND is the bigger draw then of course they would get paid more, if someone is doing more work. I used to do the same hours and the same things as my colleague but now I do a hell of a lot more hours and have a bigger work load so I get paid more than her, why should I get paid the same as her for doing more work than her and more hours (a lot more hours). If Mark Wahlberg worked longer hours than her, more screen time and was banking on HIS name to pull the crowds in, then he has a lot resting on his shoulders. Geeky x" What if they do the same number of minutes on-screen? Then is 1% acceptable? What if she has more screen time than him? | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment, if he can’t be done for the same crime as Harvey Weinstein etc, he’s going to be done over for something like this, if it had been the other way round would this have been an issue? Nope probably not. Like a poster said further up this thread, mark might have been tied to another contract for another film or whatever and he (or his people) negotiated a better deal, plus also reshoots wasn’t in his contract, they were for Michelle so maybe she needs to relook at her team and contracts she signs in future? I would say whenever one human is paid less than 1% of another human for doing the same work, it shows something is seriously wrong. Who on this forum would accept getting paid less than 1% of a colleague's salary? If they did the same job (hours and work) like I used to with my colleague then yes they should get paid the same but if one of them is getting more screen time AND is the bigger draw then of course they would get paid more, if someone is doing more work. I used to do the same hours and the same things as my colleague but now I do a hell of a lot more hours and have a bigger work load so I get paid more than her, why should I get paid the same as her for doing more work than her and more hours (a lot more hours). If Mark Wahlberg worked longer hours than her, more screen time and was banking on HIS name to pull the crowds in, then he has a lot resting on his shoulders. Geeky x What if they do the same number of minutes on-screen? Then is 1% acceptable? What if she has more screen time than him?" This is a lot of ‘what if’s’ we just don’t know, we don’t know how many hours he worked or she worked, there jobs aren’t 9-5 Monday to Friday, they may have the same screen time but how many hours did each work? Did they all travel together? So many variables to this whole thing, if it’s all equal AND they were the same in terms of who is the bigger draw (because I imagine that has a lot to do with money etc. Who is more likely to pull more cinema goers to the flicks, I know if I see a Mark Wahlberg film advertised id more likely go and see it and I imagine lots of other women would too. I mean Michelle Williams has a talent and like it or not. Regardless of what Kevin Spacey has done he had a talent too but are these two enough alone to draw in major audiences? They are both known for their more serious roles, Mark is not and more often than not if I see something with either Michelle or Kevin in I would bypass it but I would go and see a Mark film. Maybe I’m not that way inclined to appreciate good cinema but like it or not a lot of the population will go and see a film because ‘so and so’s’ in it and ‘I like him’ and it doesn’t matter how shit the film is they will go and see it purely because that actor is in it. | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment, if he can’t be done for the same crime as Harvey Weinstein etc, he’s going to be done over for something like this, if it had been the other way round would this have been an issue? Nope probably not. Like a poster said further up this thread, mark might have been tied to another contract for another film or whatever and he (or his people) negotiated a better deal, plus also reshoots wasn’t in his contract, they were for Michelle so maybe she needs to relook at her team and contracts she signs in future? I would say whenever one human is paid less than 1% of another human for doing the same work, it shows something is seriously wrong. Who on this forum would accept getting paid less than 1% of a colleague's salary? " Happens all the time! There's a saying at my place. "You don't have to be a cunt to work here, but it helps if you've got one". Never seen an example of a woman doing worse than any man there. Even if she takes a 2 hour lunch breaks to get her nails done, then refuses to work just in case she damages them! The power of the vagina in engineering is unstoppable.... | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment, if he can’t be done for the same crime as Harvey Weinstein etc, he’s going to be done over for something like this, if it had been the other way round would this have been an issue? Nope probably not. Like a poster said further up this thread, mark might have been tied to another contract for another film or whatever and he (or his people) negotiated a better deal, plus also reshoots wasn’t in his contract, they were for Michelle so maybe she needs to relook at her team and contracts she signs in future? I would say whenever one human is paid less than 1% of another human for doing the same work, it shows something is seriously wrong. Who on this forum would accept getting paid less than 1% of a colleague's salary? Happens all the time! There's a saying at my place. "You don't have to be a cunt to work here, but it helps if you've got one". Never seen an example of a woman doing worse than any man there. Even if she takes a 2 hour lunch breaks to get her nails done, then refuses to work just in case she damages them! The power of the vagina in engineering is unstoppable.... "So would you be happy to earn 1% of what she earns? | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment, if he can’t be done for the same crime as Harvey Weinstein etc, he’s going to be done over for something like this, if it had been the other way round would this have been an issue? Nope probably not. Like a poster said further up this thread, mark might have been tied to another contract for another film or whatever and he (or his people) negotiated a better deal, plus also reshoots wasn’t in his contract, they were for Michelle so maybe she needs to relook at her team and contracts she signs in future? I would say whenever one human is paid less than 1% of another human for doing the same work, it shows something is seriously wrong. Who on this forum would accept getting paid less than 1% of a colleague's salary? If they did the same job (hours and work) like I used to with my colleague then yes they should get paid the same but if one of them is getting more screen time AND is the bigger draw then of course they would get paid more, if someone is doing more work. I used to do the same hours and the same things as my colleague but now I do a hell of a lot more hours and have a bigger work load so I get paid more than her, why should I get paid the same as her for doing more work than her and more hours (a lot more hours). If Mark Wahlberg worked longer hours than her, more screen time and was banking on HIS name to pull the crowds in, then he has a lot resting on his shoulders. Geeky x What if they do the same number of minutes on-screen? Then is 1% acceptable? What if she has more screen time than him? This is a lot of ‘what if’s’ we just don’t know, we don’t know how many hours he worked or she worked, there jobs aren’t 9-5 Monday to Friday, they may have the same screen time but how many hours did each work? Did they all travel together? So many variables to this whole thing, if it’s all equal AND they were the same in terms of who is the bigger draw (because I imagine that has a lot to do with money etc. Who is more likely to pull more cinema goers to the flicks, I know if I see a Mark Wahlberg film advertised id more likely go and see it and I imagine lots of other women would too. I mean Michelle Williams has a talent and like it or not. Regardless of what Kevin Spacey has done he had a talent too but are these two enough alone to draw in major audiences? They are both known for their more serious roles, Mark is not and more often than not if I see something with either Michelle or Kevin in I would bypass it but I would go and see a Mark film. Maybe I’m not that way inclined to appreciate good cinema but like it or not a lot of the population will go and see a film because ‘so and so’s’ in it and ‘I like him’ and it doesn’t matter how shit the film is they will go and see it purely because that actor is in it." So you throw in more "what ifs" to avoid answering the question. So let's make the assumption they worked the same number of hours, and have the same screen time. Then how much more should he get paid? | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment " I was talking about this the other day. If you work in a position of power in the American film industry and you're single. You ain't gonna be able to ask someone out your attracted to due to fear of reprisal because for every genuine case out there, there's gonna be one who will make a mountain out of a molehill just coz some hot shot producer asked her out for coffee | |||
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"When you look at this whole thing, with all the sexual assaults etc going on looking at it, no man is safe in Hollywood at the moment I was talking about this the other day. If you work in a position of power in the American film industry and you're single. You ain't gonna be able to ask someone out your attracted to due to fear of reprisal because for every genuine case out there, there's gonna be one who will make a mountain out of a molehill just coz some hot shot producer asked her out for coffee" no, for every genuine case there is not someone else making a 'mountain out of a molehill'!!...do you really think women are making false allegations as a common practice? what benefit would that serve for them exactly? | |||
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