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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

3min RSA Short on ‘Blame’ by Brene Brown:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZWf2_2L2v8

“Blame is simply the discharging of discomfort and pain. It has an inverse relationship with accountability. Accountability by definition is a vulnerable process. It means me calling you and saying, 'Hey my feelings were really hurt about this.' And talking is not blaming. Blaming is simply a way that we discharge anger. People who blame a lot seldom have the tenacity and grit to actually hold people accountable. Instead of gaining control, we are losing the ability to have happy, healthy, and empathetic relationships.”

Do you blame frequently? What was the last thing you blamed somebody for? Are you skilled in asking people to be accountable or do you just inform them you blame them, or silently stew, or passive aggressively gossip or snark? Do you own your own accountability, or only on a quid pro quo basis?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think I’m goid at blaming other people for things at all, in fact I would say I’m normally the one that shoulders the brunt of the blame for many things.

It’s something I’m trying to unlearn and accept that actually I’m not always guilty of causing things to go wrong or hurt people. But undoing many years of conditioning takes time.

I don’t blame many people for things but I do get to a point that I call people out on bad behaviour x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a great believer in holding your hands up - even if that gets you into bother.

I have way more respect for people who say 'I fucked up. How do we put it right ?' than I do for those that look for a rug to sweep their mistakes under.

I have just spent nearly 4 years with a company with an inherent blame culture (mainly driven by male ego) and, above all else, it was the reason I left.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don’t think I’m goid at blaming other people for things at all, in fact I would say I’m normally the one that shoulders the brunt of the blame for many things.

It’s something I’m trying to unlearn and accept that actually I’m not always guilty of causing things to go wrong or hurt people. But undoing many years of conditioning takes time.

I don’t blame many people for things but I do get to a point that I call people out on bad behaviour x "

So for you, the object of your blame is you — and yes, it’s not being properly accountable if you allow yourself to mop up for everyone. It’s hard to assertively say to people - this is what happened, this is the result, can we discuss... it's often far easier to take it on ourselves - or to just lob it at them without the maturity of non-abusive conversation, in other cases!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I am a great believer in holding your hands up - even if that gets you into bother.

I have way more respect for people who say 'I fucked up. How do we put it right ?' than I do for those that look for a rug to sweep their mistakes under.

I have just spent nearly 4 years with a company with an inherent blame culture (mainly driven by male ego) and, above all else, it was the reason I left."

Totally with you on this!!

It’s refreshing when people are authentic, vulnerable and accountable. It does require tenacity and intelligence and grit though!

I read a lot on the forum of blame to others without first a seeking to talk in a non judgemental way.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I believe in impartiality. I will blame someone if i know they are wrong. I will also hold my hands up if i am . It's simplistic but it works .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I believe in impartiality. I will blame someone if i know they are wrong. I will also hold my hands up if i am . It's simplistic but it works ."

I don’t think life is so easily simplified. I think black and white thinking can be rather limiting sometimes. But in essence of what you’re saying, fair enough - it’s an easy answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think I’m goid at blaming other people for things at all, in fact I would say I’m normally the one that shoulders the brunt of the blame for many things.

It’s something I’m trying to unlearn and accept that actually I’m not always guilty of causing things to go wrong or hurt people. But undoing many years of conditioning takes time.

I don’t blame many people for things but I do get to a point that I call people out on bad behaviour x

So for you, the object of your blame is you — and yes, it’s not being properly accountable if you allow yourself to mop up for everyone. It’s hard to assertively say to people - this is what happened, this is the result, can we discuss... it's often far easier to take it on ourselves - or to just lob it at them without the maturity of non-abusive conversation, in other cases! "

No it isn’t, but to survive and protect my children I had to accept responsibility for wrongdoings that weren’t of my making. I’m not one for getting all sweary when pointing things out as I find the truth often works much better. But I do question now if I am to blame and won’t accept it so much x

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By *lmostthereMan
over a year ago

Southampton

I blame myself for my mistakes.

At work I never blame those who work for me in front of others, even if they were wrong. I accept the failure and deal with it afterwards.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I believe in impartiality. I will blame someone if i know they are wrong. I will also hold my hands up if i am . It's simplistic but it works .

I don’t think life is so easily simplified. I think black and white thinking can be rather limiting sometimes. But in essence of what you’re saying, fair enough - it’s an easy answer. "

It makes my life easier and works for me so I stick to it . I certainly blame someone if they serve me awful sausages

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don’t think I’m goid at blaming other people for things at all, in fact I would say I’m normally the one that shoulders the brunt of the blame for many things.

It’s something I’m trying to unlearn and accept that actually I’m not always guilty of causing things to go wrong or hurt people. But undoing many years of conditioning takes time.

I don’t blame many people for things but I do get to a point that I call people out on bad behaviour x

So for you, the object of your blame is you — and yes, it’s not being properly accountable if you allow yourself to mop up for everyone. It’s hard to assertively say to people - this is what happened, this is the result, can we discuss... it's often far easier to take it on ourselves - or to just lob it at them without the maturity of non-abusive conversation, in other cases!

No it isn’t, but to survive and protect my children I had to accept responsibility for wrongdoings that weren’t of my making. I’m not one for getting all sweary when pointing things out as I find the truth often works much better. But I do question now if I am to blame and won’t accept it so much x "

Nods, yes survival has to come first and occasionally the choices we make when under threat are to be expedient for our safety first and foremost. It’s good to be in a place of security now that allows you to assert more

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I blame myself for my mistakes.

At work I never blame those who work for me in front of others, even if they were wrong. I accept the failure and deal with it afterwards. "

[Is it wrong that I read this in terms of getting disciplined? And sexually?]

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I blame myself for my mistakes.

At work I never blame those who work for me in front of others, even if they were wrong. I accept the failure and deal with it afterwards. "

Do you hold yourself accountable, or blame (and beat up) yourself?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I believe in impartiality. I will blame someone if i know they are wrong. I will also hold my hands up if i am . It's simplistic but it works .

I don’t think life is so easily simplified. I think black and white thinking can be rather limiting sometimes. But in essence of what you’re saying, fair enough - it’s an easy answer. It makes my life easier and works for me so I stick to it . I certainly blame someone if they serve me awful sausages "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm just used to it being my fault

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I believe in impartiality. I will blame someone if i know they are wrong. I will also hold my hands up if i am . It's simplistic but it works .

I don’t think life is so easily simplified. I think black and white thinking can be rather limiting sometimes. But in essence of what you’re saying, fair enough - it’s an easy answer. "

To explain it better , let's say I broke a glass at home . I would admit it . If a glass was broken at home and I know it wasn't me then I will find out who it was and make them accountable . We all make mistakes ( and I've made plenty ) . But standing up and being accountable for your mistakes is the mark of a good human being .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just used to it being my fault "

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I believe in impartiality. I will blame someone if i know they are wrong. I will also hold my hands up if i am . It's simplistic but it works .

I don’t think life is so easily simplified. I think black and white thinking can be rather limiting sometimes. But in essence of what you’re saying, fair enough - it’s an easy answer. To explain it better , let's say I broke a glass at home . I would admit it . If a glass was broken at home and I know it wasn't me then I will find out who it was and make them accountable . We all make mistakes ( and I've made plenty ) . But standing up and being accountable for your mistakes is the mark of a good human being ."

Yes

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By *lmostthereMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"I blame myself for my mistakes.

At work I never blame those who work for me in front of others, even if they were wrong. I accept the failure and deal with it afterwards.

Do you hold yourself accountable, or blame (and beat up) yourself? "

That is a fair question. Always accountable. If there was something I should have done to avoid said person's failure than blame.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I blame myself for my mistakes.

At work I never blame those who work for me in front of others, even if they were wrong. I accept the failure and deal with it afterwards.

Do you hold yourself accountable, or blame (and beat up) yourself?

That is a fair question. Always accountable. If there was something I should have done to avoid said person's failure than blame. "

Nods. A reasoned approach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont blame unless im sure - a friend of mine continually blames others whilst its themself that are continually doing wrong by others - hurts a lot of people but its just in the make up

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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If I am not to blame I will fight my corner, whereas if I am to blame I will accept that I am at fault...eventually.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i dont blame unless im sure - a friend of mine continually blames others whilst its themself that are continually doing wrong by others - hurts a lot of people but its just in the make up "

I wonder if when we know we are not to blame and someone else is (not focusing this on you per se, just thinking..) if we then blame when we should hold people accountable, is blaming helpful or a little revelling in it? I’m just unpicking the negative aspects of the action of blame — and focusing on the positive of holding to account...one potentially to pull down and the other to lift up (albeit still understanding what happened clearly)...

Sorry, ruminating.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If I am not to blame I will fight my corner, whereas if I am to blame I will accept that I am at fault...eventually."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just used to it being my fault

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G? "

Whilst the hug is most welcome Miss Estella, I may have been talking in jest and playing up to a stereotype

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just used to it being my fault

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G?

Whilst the hug is most welcome Miss Estella, I may have been talking in jest and playing up to a stereotype

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Awww you naughty boy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just used to it being my fault

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G?

Whilst the hug is most welcome Miss Estella, I may have been talking in jest and playing up to a stereotype

Awww you naughty boy! "

Get yer handcuffs out!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm just used to it being my fault

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G?

Whilst the hug is most welcome Miss Estella, I may have been talking in jest and playing up to a stereotype

Awww you naughty boy!

Get yer handcuffs out! "

Orgasm torture for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just used to it being my fault

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G?

Whilst the hug is most welcome Miss Estella, I may have been talking in jest and playing up to a stereotype

Awww you naughty boy!

Get yer handcuffs out!

Orgasm torture for you."

So, so cruel...

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

Im always accountable for my own actions and take responsibility for them. Im happy to express my feelings to people good or bad. Life is about communication. I cant remember the last time I was angry or blamed someone else.

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro


"I'm just used to it being my fault

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G?

Whilst the hug is most welcome Miss Estella, I may have been talking in jest and playing up to a stereotype

Awww you naughty boy!

Get yer handcuffs out!

Orgasm torture for you.

So, so cruel... "

I thought that seems very fair..torture him

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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"I'm just used to it being my fault

Do you need a hug?

Or is this perhaps a thought distortion meaning that you think everything is always your fault?

It’s interesting how it says in the clip that blaming ourselves and having someone at fault is better than it being nobody’s fault as it gives a semblance of control.

Are you trying to grapple a sense of control back, G?

Whilst the hug is most welcome Miss Estella, I may have been talking in jest and playing up to a stereotype

Awww you naughty boy!

Get yer handcuffs out!

Orgasm torture for you.

So, so cruel... "

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I like Brene's work, she covers very interesting and profound subjects.

Blame is a bit of a loaded word - in the context of the film 'project responsibility onto another who is not actually responsible' then no, I strive to never do such a thing, but I will also strive to hold people accountable (myself included), face them with their responsibility for their actions and the consequences, and refuse to accept blame when they try to pin it unjustly on me merely to discharge their own angst!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I blame as such, there's 2 sides to everything. We're both accountable. I don't usually bother telling them what the issue is though as there's no point. People just get defensive and won't accept they played a part in it.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I don't think I blame as such, there's 2 sides to everything. We're both accountable. I don't usually bother telling them what the issue is though as there's no point. People just get defensive and won't accept they played a part in it. "

Only the emotionally immature or damaged.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think I blame as such, there's 2 sides to everything. We're both accountable. I don't usually bother telling them what the issue is though as there's no point. People just get defensive and won't accept they played a part in it.

Only the emotionally immature or damaged. "

Them or me?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I don't think I blame as such, there's 2 sides to everything. We're both accountable. I don't usually bother telling them what the issue is though as there's no point. People just get defensive and won't accept they played a part in it.

Only the emotionally immature or damaged.

Them or me?"

Those who only get defensive. Of course it depends how you broach the subject too, minefield there....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the last few years has taught me anything it’s taught me, and those around me, about the importance of accountability.

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