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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

She was allegedly unaware how many there were as a work colleague gave them to her to take. They were supposedly for her Egyptian boyfriend who didn't think to tell her that it's a controlled drug there.

Any sympathy for her?

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By *radleywigginsMan
over a year ago

northwest

Aside from the blatant sexism this is a complete non-story.

Man gets jailed for intent to supply drugs is hardly likely to make the news..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

Anyone silly enough to 'carry something' on behalf of another is asking for trouble. Trouble is what she got.

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By *appytimes2019Man
over a year ago

East Manchester

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

Doesn't sound right, but it's a bit of a joke that's it's a controlled drug in such relatively controlled amounts

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I can think of better things than tramadol to go down for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

To be honest I think it's a bit harsh ...well if naivety can be a plea it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

It's a controlled drug here aswell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

My view on this story is that she was probably very gullible. How did her work colleague get so many (it's a controlled drug in the UK) and why was she packing anything without checking what she was taking? There's a reason you're asked if you have packed your own bags, after all.

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it’s an opiate based medication. Doesn’t take a genius to work out that given it’s nature it will be a controlled drug. It requires an extra signature when purchasing over the counter here, besides which when taking anything into another country you should determine the laws of said country beforehand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a work colleague gave her them to take to her boyfriend? sounds utter crap! of course she would have known they weren't legal.

Controlled or not you would not think it was perfectly fine to take that volume of pills without questioning it. Luckily stupidity is no usually much of a defence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

It's a controlled drug here aswell."

You don't get nicked for carrying it on a plane do you? Or is it the amount that is in question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"it’s an opiate based medication. Doesn’t take a genius to work out that given it’s nature it will be a controlled drug. It requires an extra signature when purchasing over the counter here, besides which when taking anything into another country you should determine the laws of said country beforehand. "

By purchasing I of course mean through a prescription.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?"

Our government has only just updated it's website to warn people of this.

It's a pain killers to which is legal in this country....so there is the possibility of some confusion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

It's a controlled drug here aswell.

But not illegal"

its illegal if its been illegally obtained....which they must have been or there wouldnt have been nearly 300! You can't just buy them over the counter!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

Doesn't sound right, but it's a bit of a joke that's it's a controlled drug in such relatively controlled amounts "

Their country, their laws.

She was either extremely stupid, who would carry anything through customs for someone else these days, or she was complicit.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?"

She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned. "

i dont think thats the point, it wasn't her medication! it was 'given' to her, so clearly not legally prescribed.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

It's a controlled drug here aswell.

But not illegal

its illegal if its been illegally obtained....which they must have been or there wouldnt have been nearly 300! You can't just buy them over the counter!"

I don't know any prescriber who would prescribe such a large amount of opiates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

To be honest I think it's a bit harsh ...well if naivety can be a plea it is"

She could have gotten the death penalty, so she got off light with 3 years.

And no, no sympathy. If you're stupid enough to try and carry in an illegal drug, then be prepared for if it goes tits up instead of trying to play a victim.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned. "

Really? I always check if I need to to declare my medication and make sure I take the most recent copy of my prescription.

I would also never accept a mystery parcel for anyone, even my boyfriend. If her boyfriend lives in the country and he knew what was in the package then he should be done for duping her into bringing them over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

To be honest I think it's a bit harsh ...well if naivety can be a plea it is

She could have gotten the death penalty, so she got off light with 3 years.

And no, no sympathy. If you're stupid enough to try and carry in an illegal drug, then be prepared for if it goes tits up instead of trying to play a victim. "

Did she know she was committing the crime though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned.

Really? I always check if I need to to declare my medication and make sure I take the most recent copy of my prescription.

Can't see them being worth much ?

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By *ighland_RoseCouple
over a year ago

Brigadoon

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?

She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?"

Damn right. There's a lot of mean spirited people on fab, and at fucking Christmas too.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned. "

But it wasn't her medication, by her own admission.

It is a good lesson for people, though. I have checked on medication in the past, mainly for bringing things back from the USA.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?

She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?"

there’s a reason why certain people are picked out as mules

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?

She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?"

im not particularly hard hearted usually, but this seems to go beyond naive...she's 33 not a kid. If she was aware of this 'back problem' then she must have been aware of the illegality of getting hold of the pills from someone else...i find it very hard to believe a grown woman can plead complete ignorance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

A couple of packets I can imagine but 290- 30 in a pack so ~10 packets. Supermarkets only allow people to buy 2 packets of Paracetamol at once so surely 10 packets would make someone think. Even worse if it was just in plain packaging - they ask if you're carrying anything for someone else. In plain packaging how would she know it wasn't illegal drugs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned.

Really? I always check if I need to to declare my medication and make sure I take the most recent copy of my prescription.

Can't see them being worth much ?"

you'd be suprised! especially somewhere where they are less available than here..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

To be honest I think it's a bit harsh ...well if naivety can be a plea it is

She could have gotten the death penalty, so she got off light with 3 years.

And no, no sympathy. If you're stupid enough to try and carry in an illegal drug, then be prepared for if it goes tits up instead of trying to play a victim.

Did she know she was committing the crime though?"

Alarm bells should ring for anyone who is asked to bring nearly 300 tablets of a medication that for whatever reason, is unobtainable in that person's own country.

And that's ignoring the fact that you wouldn't get nearly 300 prescribed in one go, so there's also falsely obtaining them in the first place to add to her stupidity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She also put the tramadol in a bottle marked paracetamol. Now why do that if you do not know they are illegal ?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned.

Really? I always check if I need to to declare my medication and make sure I take the most recent copy of my prescription.

Can't see them being worth much ?"

It's not about what they're worth. Ad a citizen of the country he knows what is allowed and what isn't. By not making her aware he is effectively making her a drug mule.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely you can get back pain tablets in Egypt ? Via gp or chemist

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?

She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?

There are vulnerable people in society of all ages. Some unscrupulous people take advantage of that.

I’m not saying I don’t agree with her being punished btw.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?

She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?

Damn right. There's a lot of mean spirited people on fab, and at fucking Christmas too."

People shouldn't go to jail at xmas. There was a murder on Christmas day. Let the murderer go home, poor guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

To be honest I think it's a bit harsh ...well if naivety can be a plea it is

She could have gotten the death penalty, so she got off light with 3 years.

And no, no sympathy. If you're stupid enough to try and carry in an illegal drug, then be prepared for if it goes tits up instead of trying to play a victim.

Did she know she was committing the crime though?

Alarm bells should ring for anyone who is asked to bring nearly 300 tablets of a medication that for whatever reason, is unobtainable in that person's own country.

And that's ignoring the fact that you wouldn't get nearly 300 prescribed in one go, so there's also falsely obtaining them in the first place to add to her stupidity. "

I know loads of people who get meds prescribed on a monthly basis on repeat...now I'm not saying this is the case here as I have not read in too it in detail.

But that being you have a friend who has a surplus of these and give you them...it's a little different to being a drug dealer I think.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"If I was going abroad I wouldn't think to check of my medication was banned.

Really? I always check if I need to to declare my medication and make sure I take the most recent copy of my prescription.

Can't see them being worth much ?"

Their worth isn't the question. Their worth here is low as most of us can get a prescription for them but their worth may be much greater where they are not available on the NHS. There is a trade in it in this country for those who are addicted and can't get anyone to prescribe in large amounts.

It depends how you define 'worth' I think.

Opiods cost this country has more than doubled in the last 10 years. It affects us in addiction and lost work days too.

The USA is concerned with their growing opiod epidemic (in a sympathetic way as it is affecting nice white, middle class people, so this 'war on drugs' is being treated differently and not leading to people being locked up).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"She also put the tramadol in a bottle marked paracetamol. Now why do that if you do not know they are illegal ?"

Who put them in a paracetamol bottle? Her or the 'work colleague'?

Work colleague and boyfriend should also be investigated as aiding a crime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She also put the tramadol in a bottle marked paracetamol. Now why do that if you do not know they are illegal ?

Who put them in a paracetamol bottle? Her or the 'work colleague'?

Work colleague and boyfriend should also be investigated as aiding a crime."

Who put them in the bottle is the question ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

To be honest I think it's a bit harsh ...well if naivety can be a plea it is

She could have gotten the death penalty, so she got off light with 3 years.

And no, no sympathy. If you're stupid enough to try and carry in an illegal drug, then be prepared for if it goes tits up instead of trying to play a victim.

Did she know she was committing the crime though?"

Ignorantia legis neminem ad defensionem.

No doubt her MP will be using it to improve their profile!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely you can get back pain tablets in Egypt ? Via gp or chemist "

exactly...he should be able to get medication, opiates or not, from a doctor on a prescription....if he can't, then there's a reason...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She also put the tramadol in a bottle marked paracetamol. Now why do that if you do not know they are illegal ?

Who put them in a paracetamol bottle? Her or the 'work colleague'?

Work colleague and boyfriend should also be investigated as aiding a crime."

must have been some massive bottle! yes, i agree, its the work colleague that has obtained them illegally in the first place, so they must have arranged it beforehand with the boyfriend...and all this is going on without her knowledge?

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By *oubyLoverWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

There’s very little sympathy in local hull forums. She took a large quantity of controlled drugs from someone else (so defrauding the NHS), to take abroad to her bf/‘husband’ for his back. Seriously if he’s in pain he needs to get medication locally not ask a gf to bring them into the country for him. Well dodgy. Tramadol not legal there so why would you even take them?

Apparently she pleaded guilty by mistake too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have sympathy for the poor guy in Egypt with a bad back,still waiting for his pills. Over Christmas as well,terrible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perspective first

If 50mg tabs then prescribed amount would be up to 8 a day. It’s therefore only just over a months supply.

Nia I’ve to take meds into another country without checking other countries rules. Just because you are not aware it’s a crime does not make you innocent

Tramadol is the worst drug in the world. Should be banned. Way too many deaths associated with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the bbc report says she claims he didnt know anything about it, and she took them for him just to help him..which makes her sound even more guilty..no one has given her 300 tramadol for free.. she cant be that naive if she managed to get hold of someone who can sell illegal pain meds in that quantity to her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tramadol is a controlled drug. It's very addictive. If they were in labelled as paracetamol then that is drug dealing.

Whose to say it was for her bf anyway?

6 months and our government will negotiate her release anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the bbc report says she claims he didnt know anything about it, and she took them for him just to help him..which makes her sound even more guilty..no one has given her 300 tramadol for free.. she cant be that naive if she managed to get hold of someone who can sell illegal pain meds in that quantity to her."

Not necessarily. I have roughly that many lay around in my house, reason being I have issues with my shoulder so it sometimes dislocates and tears my pec too. So I have tramadol on repeat prescription, I rarely need them but have to keep collecting them otherwise it will no longer be on repeat and if I ever needed them again it would be a nightmare to get a prescription for them.

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

I'm wondering what punishment the pharmacist will be receiving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have sympathy for the poor guy in Egypt with a bad back,still waiting for his pills. Over Christmas as well,terrible."

Ignorance is no defence in the eyes of the law.

She just shouldn’t have done it, no matter the who’s, what’s, when’s or why’s she’s broken the law of a country.

Is it sad, yes it is for the sake of a few pills, but she did it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Exactly. Where the heck did she get them from?!

I'm clueless about many things but even I know to check what I'm allowed to take into countries I visit.

"Sorry judge, I didn't realise *hard drug* was illegal, it was just for a friend."

Judge: "ok then you can go home, don't forget to take your case of drugs with you sweetie."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When going to other countries, you need to respect their laws and their justice system.

Surely anyone with an ounce of sense would know that taking a quantity of any drugs into another country is asking for trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have had them on prescription too in the past, and, like you say, ive hung to some..but didnt keep getting scrips because i didnt need them anymore...but i really find it hard to believe someone has managed to just produce 290 tablets to hand over to a work colleague...if the colleague had obtained them legally and just had them 'left over' would they not also know enough to have told her, firstly, how strong and addictive they were, and secondly, that she would need to be careful as they werent legal.

You do know, if it's from your prescription, that 'giving away' prescription drugs isnt legal!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Any sympathy for her?"

Sympathy? No. If you are entering another country then you should be aware of the legal limits as to what you can bring across the border surely. I take Tramadol as prescribed by ma specialist, but maybe they should have thought this through before trying to import such painkillers that aren't actually sanctioned in the UK?

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Lots of sympathy for her family, they haven't done anything wrong but are also being punished

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When going to other countries, you need to respect their laws and their justice system.

Surely anyone with an ounce of sense would know that taking a quantity of any drugs into another country is asking for trouble."

exactly....anyone with an ounce of sense also knows that obtaining them illegally in the first place is asking for trouble!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

At what cost to the NHS? Renegotiate your repeat prescription and don't let it be known you have so many sitting there doing nothing. There are many people who would turn you over to get hold of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

As someone who used tramadol after major surgery this year there were really tight rules.

I took 100mg 3 times a day that was 6 tablets and could only get a months in advance prescription.

How did they get a prescription for someone else? Every 2 months I had to see the Dr to see if I still needed it as it is not the easiest to get off.

So sympathy now for anyone who wants to holiday in a country you can't carry it to as a requirement for yourself but stupid to carry for someone else

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Lots of sympathy for her family, they haven't done anything wrong but are also being punished"

That is the case for every family of someone incarcerated and I too have sympathy for them.

Even here women are given harsher sentences for relatively minor crimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

It's a controlled drug here aswell.

You don't get nicked for carrying it on a plane do you? Or is it the amount that is in question?"

I have no idea. I was just stating that its a controlled drug here aswell as where she was arrested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not much I would imagine as I pay for my prescriptions at almost £9 per. They make ample enough when they prescribe cheap antibiotics all the time amongst the many other cheap off brand stuff they have. Which you really have to be careful of because some of the binding agents and such they use in the cheaper ones can cause anaphylaxis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I,m sorry for the conditions she is being held in but she has been caught fair and square with an excessive amount of a drug that is only available on prescription here, hidden in a paracetamol bottle. Yes she should be jailed, we don't like it if people come here from other countries and break our laws. Considering what she could have got, she got away lightly. The law is the law, Christmas doesn't come into it. Maybe they could lobby for her to serve her sentence in the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

Its a prescription drug. I get 100 in one packet and i get that approx every 3 weeks so it wouldnt take me to long to have almost 300. Obviously i use mine myself for pain but to be honest iv been prescribed it for about 4 years and the doc has never checked that my levels of pain require this amount of drugs, iv had operations to stop whats causing the pain and although it has lessened its not gone completely so i need the Tramadol still. Im always suprised the doc never questions me about my need for them nowadays. Sorry went off track there lol

so basically they could have been prescribed for someone in the first place but who no longer needs them.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

so basically they could have been prescribed for someone in the first place but who no longer needs them."

There's a lot of work going on to get GPs to stop prescribing opiods in this way. The cost is enormous and the benefits are short-lived for most people. The effects of addiction, for those that do become addicted, then add to the work of the NHS.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/may/05/unnecessary-opioid-painkiller-prescriptions-thousands-addicted-nhs-doctors-warn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

so basically they could have been prescribed for someone in the first place but who no longer needs them."

to be honest it sounds like you have a pretty crap surgery and crap pharmacist..if they are doing their jobs properly you should have had a review by the pharmacist at the very least, they are usually very hot on over-prescription of pain killers, much more so than the doctors. It's a horrible drug, very over prescribed, and banned in a lot of countries..there are several morphine type painkillers that will be under a lot of scrutiny when their licences next come up, and im sure a few will not be re-licensed... sorry, off topic, but the fact remains, if someone had legally been prescribed them, then they are still breaking the law, and well aware of that, if they are passing them on to someone else, for money or not.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

Totally this! And where the hell did she get hold of 290 Tramadol - surely there’s the issue of an illegal purchase of a controlled drug in the UK which would presumably carry a sentence too - so she’s broken laws here & in Egypt.

I have sympathy for the situation she is in, but it is one entirely of her own making

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over a year ago

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

so basically they could have been prescribed for someone in the first place but who no longer needs them.

Reading this really saddens me. I know everyone has thier own opinion on this but when it comes to the nitpicking of legalities of handing down drugs this astounds me. I use a ventolin inhaler and sometimes I run out of it...now luckily a neighbour has surplus and will let me have one in these rare times.

Would you not? As it is against the law...maybe not the commonsense law eh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

so basically they could have been prescribed for someone in the first place but who no longer needs them.

Would you not? As it is against the law...maybe not the commonsense law eh

its hardly the same as distributing, probably for money, i cant believe it wasnt, a very strong, very addictive pain killer that is a well known street drug. That has nothing to do with common sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

so basically they could have been prescribed for someone in the first place but who no longer needs them.

Im not over prescribed it. I am in pain every moment of my life. Nothing else helps unless i am given morphine. I dont take the full daily dose now although i did before my various operations. Crap the doc and pharmacist may be but without the Tramadol i wouldnt be able to work, do housework, cook, go to watch football, sleep, function in general.

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By *oubyLoverWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Would you not? As it is against the law...maybe not the commonsense law eh

You know you need it, you know it’s the same as you have prescribed. But would you take an inhaler from one friend for another friend who you don’t know if they would be prescribed the same as you have? And would you take 30 inhalers from one friend to another? And would you take them to another country where your other friend is? And would you take it knowing he can’t get that particular type of inhaler there because it’s illegal?

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By *onedbodMan
over a year ago

co Galway

She should have asked whoever gave them to her the legality of carrying such tablets and especially the high quantity of them! Very foolish woman and got what she deserved!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always have sympathy for people jailed, whatever the crime. That doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't be jailed (before I get the usual abuse for my sentiments).

Her sentence is harsh by UK standards but if this had been an Egyptian person committing a crime here there would be no sympathy for them not understanding UK law.

I have sympathy for her in that the jail conditions must be horrendous.

so basically they could have been prescribed for someone in the first place but who no longer needs them.

i wasnt suggesting otherwise, i have permanent pain medication as well, but i was commenting that you'd said you'd never been asked about it once you got repeats..its the duty of the pharmacist to keep check on that to avoid over prescribing..many people stay on it for years completely unnecessarily, or hoard them

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Tramadol is a controlled drug here in the UK too. Whenever I collect my mum's repeat prescription I have to sign for it at the GP's surgery and fill in a form with my name and address and relationship to the person receiving them. I then have to sign for them again at the pharmacy.

Anyone caught in possession of nearly 300 Tramadol without a prescription would be up before the courts here too for possession with intent to supply.

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By *eather_Loves_SexWoman
over a year ago

Halfway Between London and Brighton

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

To be honest I think it's a bit harsh ...well if naivety can be a plea it is

She could have gotten the death penalty, so she got off light with 3 years.

And no, no sympathy. If you're stupid enough to try and carry in an illegal drug, then be prepared for if it goes tits up instead of trying to play a victim.

Did she know she was committing the crime though?

Alarm bells should ring for anyone who is asked to bring nearly 300 tablets of a medication that for whatever reason, is unobtainable in that person's own country.

And that's ignoring the fact that you wouldn't get nearly 300 prescribed in one go, so there's also falsely obtaining them in the first place to add to her stupidity. "
Actually we do regularly see 224 prescribed if people take the max daily dose of 8 so 290 not outside the realms of possibility! However that is over a month’s worth so unless she was going for a month AND. Had a prescription in her possession for them then she shouldn’t have risked it

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

None!!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Who gave them to her and why haven't they been mentioned?

Did the boyfriend know she was bringing it? Wasn't he "uncomfortable" when she was first arrested?

It all seems a bit odd to me

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over a year ago

"Who gave them to her and why haven't they been mentioned?

Did the boyfriend know she was bringing it? Wasn't he "uncomfortable" when she was first arrested?

It all seems a bit odd to me"

she claims he knew nothing about it, got it (i would assume 'bought it') off a work colleague. she's 33, i dont believe for a minute she thought it was all fine and legal., so no, i dont have much sympathy..as someone has already said if she'd been caught here with them, she would have been done for possession of them..its just tough shit if their sentences are longer!

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

it does highlight a valid point that tablets we can purchase in supermarkets or get prescribed by your gp can be illegal to carry into another country.

countries such as Greece, India, Maldives, UAE, Turkey, Morocco and Malaysia have very strict laws on what prescription drugs can be brought through their borders. some have the death penalty so it cannot be ignored.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"it does highlight a valid point that tablets we can purchase in supermarkets or get prescribed by your gp can be illegal to carry into another country.

The British press is also selective about which stories of this sort they champion and which they pillory.

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over a year ago

"it does highlight a valid point that tablets we can purchase in supermarkets or get prescribed by your gp can be illegal to carry into another country.

The British press is also selective about which stories of this sort they champion and which they pillory.

and at xmas, there is no news, so all sorts of stupid irrelevant little stories get attention..

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By *oubyLoverWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

"Who gave them to her and why haven't they been mentioned?

Did the boyfriend know she was bringing it? Wasn't he "uncomfortable" when she was first arrested?

It all seems a bit odd to me

If I was going abroad and someone said can you bring x, my first question would be why can’t you get it there. I’ve taken decent tea bags to America before for friends but at this point it should have become obvious he can’t get them because they’re illegal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I,m sorry for the conditions she is being held in but she has been caught fair and square with an excessive amount of a drug that is only available on prescription here, hidden in a paracetamol bottle. Yes she should be jailed, we don't like it if people come here from other countries and break our laws. Considering what she could have got, she got away lightly. The law is the law, Christmas doesn't come into it. Maybe they could lobby for her to serve her sentence in the UK."

Why should WE pay to keep her in prison?

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"The British press is also selective about which stories of this sort they champion and which they pillory.

Some little scrote that get caught smuggling illegal hardcore drugs into another country deserves what they get and isn't really newsworthy.

a woman jailed for carrying an over the counter drug into another country where it cannot be bought is kind of worth a read, even if only to highlight it to others so they don't make the same mistake.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Who gave them to her and why haven't they been mentioned?

Did the boyfriend know she was bringing it? Wasn't he "uncomfortable" when she was first arrested?

It all seems a bit odd to me

I took two blocks of coconut cream to New Zealand 15 years ago as a friend had moved there and couldn't find it there. I was stopped at customs as they thought it was dairy. I'd checked what was allowed and it should have been fine but the customs officer had never seen it before. Another official was called and it was allowed through. That's as risky as I'm prepared to be, especially with my complexion.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"The British press is also selective about which stories of this sort they champion and which they pillory.

Some little scrote that get caught smuggling illegal hardcore drugs into another country deserves what they get and isn't really newsworthy.

It all depends how you sell that story. It's not an over the counter drug - it's a strong, addictive opioid that is controlled in this country and banned in others. It's a drug that has a street trade with addicts and could easily have been presented in that way.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Who gave them to her and why haven't they been mentioned?

Did the boyfriend know she was bringing it? Wasn't he "uncomfortable" when she was first arrested?

It all seems a bit odd to me

I meant uncontactable not uncomfortable lol.

Yeah I know what she claims but it seems to me the start and intended end of the transaction are getting away with it. Maybe something's going on behind-the-scenes.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"The British press is also selective about which stories of this sort they champion and which they pillory.

Some little scrote that get caught smuggling illegal hardcore drugs into another country deserves what they get and isn't really newsworthy.

Tramadol isn't an over the counter drug.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who gave them to her and why haven't they been mentioned?

Did the boyfriend know she was bringing it? Wasn't he "uncomfortable" when she was first arrested?

It all seems a bit odd to me

I meant uncontactable not uncomfortable lol.

Yeah I know what she claims but it seems to me the start and intended end of the transaction are getting away with it. Maybe something's going on behind-the-scenes.

i think its pretty straightforward, either he asked her to get some, and already knew who to ask, or she, as she claims, took it upon herself to get them.If she's claiming its a work colleague, then i would imagine they will be questioned for supplying illegal drugs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She carried the stuff, she knew what she was potentially getting herself into .... and almost 300 Tramadol ? The NHS doesn't dish them out in such large quantities - having said that, has anyone seen the Mother ?? She has the Tramadol pout so maybe she's been saving up her quota - either way, it was pre meditated so no, I don't have any sympathy for her no more than I did for the 'Peru 2' even though one of them is hot as fuck

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"She carried the stuff, she knew what she was potentially getting herself into .... and almost 300 Tramadol ? The NHS doesn't dish them out in such large quantities - having said that, has anyone seen the Mother ?? She has the Tramadol pout so maybe she's been saving up her quota - either way, it was pre meditated so no, I don't have any sympathy for her no more than I did for the 'Peru 2' even though one of them is hot as fuck

What's a Tramadol pout?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently she's been travelling to Egypt for 7 odd years very regularly.

You would think she would of known what's right and wrong ...

I expect they looked at her phone maybe and seen messages ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

None

Do your research

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For everyone in this thread taking a lot of tramadol,have you ever stopped taking it? It's not the addiction you need to worry about its the seizures if you just stop,

Who,to the poster who has been taking it for years has your doctor not tried diamorphine or oxycontin? Either way you will be addicted to either three but others are a lot better on your organs.

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By *rongstantineWoman
over a year ago

hull

Whoo, Hull :/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For everyone in this thread taking a lot of tramadol,have you ever stopped taking it? It's not the addiction you need to worry about its the seizures if you just stop,

Who,to the poster who has been taking it for years has your doctor not tried diamorphine or oxycontin? Either way you will be addicted to either three but others are a lot better on your organs.

When I came off it after 8 months I went cold turkey and had 3 weeks of hell.

Your body stops producing certain natural chemicals due to tramadol use and it takes about 10-14 days for them to be naturally produced again. Had shivers shakes

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

Tramadol is one of the drugs used in large quantities by ISIS to suppress pain and enhance resilience. It is also given to child suicide bombers before sending then on missions.

Hence why countries like Egypt would view this quite seriously.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No pity for the her! Actions have consequences. Stupidity is no excuse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's on ITV news now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those saying you can’t get that amount of Tramadol on prescription, let me just say, you can and I do. I take them and my prescription gets me 290 a time.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

"For those saying you can’t get that amount of Tramadol on prescription, let me just say, you can and I do. I take them and my prescription gets me 290 a time."

But how long would it take you to save up a spare 290 to sell by cutting back on your dose? I assume you need most if not all of them?

The point being, 290 pills available to buy on the black market is quite a substantial amount - It’s not a spare pack if 10 that someone had!

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

people have got life for far less

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By *Ollyinone.Man
over a year ago

Warks.

No sympathy whatsoever. I'm also curious how she managed to get such a quantity from her 'friend' and how that friend has such a disposable supply

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She's been locked up since October but only just on the news today

First I've heard of it anyway

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"She's been locked up since October but only just on the news today

First I've heard of it anyway"

I heard about it early in December, when the family started pressing for attention to get the government to take up her case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She's been locked up since October but only just on the news today

First I've heard of it anyway"

It's hardly newsworthy though. No sympathy for her at all.

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By *oubyLoverWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

"She's been locked up since October but only just on the news today

First I've heard of it anyway"

It’s been running in the hull daily mail virtually daily since then. Now there’s about 3 stories a day on the website. The comments are revealing. People have little sympathy with her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No sympathy whatsoever. I'm also curious how she managed to get such a quantity from her 'friend' and how that friend has such a disposable supply "

And that's what should be investigated and if needs be prosecuted in this country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

xmas..as i said earlier..slow news day, they drag up any old non news to fill the press with something..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No sympathy whatsoever. I'm also curious how she managed to get such a quantity from her 'friend' and how that friend has such a disposable supply

And that's what should be investigated and if needs be prosecuted in this country."

well it sounds clear she's dropped her work mate in it! the police must already be on to it, happened weeks ago..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Havent read all the messages but as these are precription only in this country not only was she smuggling a contolled drug into the other country but she/someone was ripping off the NHS buy taking 290 tablets on perscription that ghey didnt need and yhen supplued them to someone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For those saying you can’t get that amount of Tramadol on prescription, let me just say, you can and I do. I take them and my prescription gets me 290 a time."

If this is true then your GP needs reporting to the GMC. Even at a dose of 4 tablets a day that is over 10 weeks supply on a single prescription.

Given the known dangers of Tramadol that is madness.

But regardless, would you just give 10 weeks supply away? What would you take instead?

I don't believe a word of her story that she was given it by a colleague. It's completely implausible that anyone would have that amount just sitting around spare to give away. If a doctor was willing to prescribe that volume then surely the condition requiring it means that it's unlikely to be given away by the patient?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For those saying you can’t get that amount of Tramadol on prescription, let me just say, you can and I do. I take them and my prescription gets me 290 a time.

If this is true then your GP needs reporting to the GMC. Even at a dose of 4 tablets a day that is over 10 weeks supply on a single prescription.

Given the known dangers of Tramadol that is madness.

But regardless, would you just give 10 weeks supply away? What would you take instead?

ive seen prescriptions for very elderly people in huge doses and amounts....as someone said earlier, they are strictly controlled, have to be signed for etc..and if someone is selling in quantity its not likely to be the doctors fault, but more stolen prescriptions....but you do get people who are prescribed them and no longer use them ,and just sell them too... but the amount sounds to me more like a prescribed amount...co codamol is similar, they do hand out huge amounts..i take 2 a night, about 3 nights a week and they give me a big plastic bottle of 100 at once...and way more people are addicted to that! but yes, whatever, she hasn't got a leg to stand on as far as i can see!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I suspect there's way more to this than meets the eye.

I will say though that before I had surgery to alleviate severe pain I was prescribed codeine, paracetamol, tramadol and valium in eye watering quantities. I was shocked to be given a prescription for two hundred paracetamol and commented to the pharmacist that I obviously wasn't considered a suicide risk, his response was that it wasn't his responsibility to assess whether I was or not. I was also surprised to be prescribed tramadol during a phone conversation with an out of hours doctor who had never met me and didn't have access to my medical records.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I suspect there's way more to this than meets the eye.

My mother in law used to be prescribed paracetamol in similar quantaties, after her death in her medical notes it even mentioned she was depressed on the visits she was prescribed the tablets. She was in unbearable pain but was prescribed nothing stronger than paracetamol.

Ginger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Taking 10 tablets is different from carry 100s of tablet, every party involved in this is aware of what they meant for...

Crime is a crime, doesn't changes because it is women...

I don't get why this is even in the news? As someone said before is it because the smuggler was an women? Dirty media....

. There are better things to televise

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By *ulldog_71Man
over a year ago

Sedgefield

Would there be all this shit if it was cannabis she had smuggled it is classified the same as tramadol, a class C controlled drug, but just looked at different by the public. Even in this country with that amount that weren't prescribed to her she would be guilty of possession with intent to supply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Taking 10 tablets is different from carry 100s of tablet, every party involved in this is aware of what they meant for...

Crime is a crime, doesn't changes because it is women...

I don't get why this is even in the news? As someone said before is it because the smuggler was an women? Dirty media....

. There are better things to televise "

its just xmas, no news except who wore what stupid hat at the royals church visit type crap..and this, nothing anyone actually needs to know..her parents have been trying to get it more high profile, so the press can fill a few column inches, pacify them from hassling the FO, then they can get on with actual news..

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By *obin_and_marionMan
over a year ago

Beaconsfield

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt. "

She could not legally obtain 290 Tramadol in the UK so her actions are suspect from the outset.

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over a year ago

"Would there be all this shit if it was cannabis she had smuggled it is classified the same as tramadol, a class C controlled drug, but just looked at different by the public. Even in this country with that amount that weren't prescribed to her she would be guilty of possession with intent to supply."

yes i imagine her family would try to make it as high profile as well....and no, its not quite the same, though i get your point...presumably this work colleague will have been discussing this with a solicitor..

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By *obin_and_marionMan
over a year ago

Beaconsfield

BTW when I visited the UAE I had to obtain a certificate in advance in order to take my the required quantity of my UK prescription medication.

And to do so I had to provide evidence of my prescription dose to verify that the quantity I was taking with my was only the quantity that I needed for the duration of my visit.

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By *obin_and_marionMan
over a year ago

Beaconsfield

It is a common problem in countries with illegal drugs or even legal drugs where they are scarce or expensive on the local market. It is very profitable to sell smuggled drugs at under the local prescription price.

We should not apply our standards to the situation that other countries find themselves in.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Why didn't her "husband" come over to England and take them back himself?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There’s very little sympathy in local hull forums. She took a large quantity of controlled drugs from someone else (so defrauding the NHS), to take abroad to her bf/‘husband’ for his back. Seriously if he’s in pain he needs to get medication locally not ask a gf to bring them into the country for him. Well dodgy. Tramadol not legal there so why would you even take them?

Apparently she pleaded guilty by mistake too

If u read the story tramadol (which gps here are reluctant to prescribe now due to them being addictive) ARE illegal in Egypt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

None

Consequences

Ignorance is no excuse

Just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Getting any drug in volume isn't difficult, prescribed ones included.

You need to be really fucking stupid to take them through customs for a mate though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

None

Consequences

Ignorance is no excuse

Just saying

What would Judy say?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No sympathy at all, I saw her family on this morning a couple of months back and when they said ‘we are quite a glamorous family’ I just thought ‘yup that’s the reason she’s out there’ thick as shit.

Geeky x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?"

Firstly as its a prescribed drug here how did she get it?

Secondly how did she get so much?

Thirdly As it was a large quantity that wasnt prescribed for her what was she doing with it? Even in this country being in possession of such a large amount that hasn't been specifically prescribed for you is illegal and carrying it to give to someone else is called 'intent to supply'

Simply because we are so lenient with our illegal drug suppliers doesnt mean another sovereign country should be as lenient when one from here tries to do it over there. Do I have sympathy? Yes,actually I do. But, she broke the law so she brought this upon herself. As someone once told me: Show me bruises that being hit with the money she was offered/given caused her!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The last time I took a flight out of the EU, I was asked:

Did I pack the bag myself?

Was I carrying anything for anyone else?

So it is feasable that she had the chance to declare the tablets in advance. Unless she either didn't think it was an issue or knew it would be and didn't declare them.

I'm also sure there ia a list of prohibited items that the airlines point out to you that you have to declare you are not carrying.

There is more to this story for sure. Why was she travelling to Egypt etc...

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By *oubyLoverWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

"No sympathy at all, I saw her family on this morning a couple of months back and when they said ‘we are quite a glamorous family’ I just thought ‘yup that’s the reason she’s out there’ thick as shit.

Geeky x "

Ah that explains all the sarcastic glamorous comments I keep seeing in the local hull forum

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

Apparently she pleaded guilty by mistake too

If u read the story tramadol (which gps here are reluctant to prescribe now due to them being addictive) ARE illegal in Egypt "

How can you plead guilty by mistake, in this particular case?

As open and shut case as you could possibly get

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Apparently she pleaded guilty by mistake too

If u read the story tramadol (which gps here are reluctant to prescribe now due to them being addictive) ARE illegal in Egypt

How can you plead guilty by mistake, in this particular case?

As open and shut case as you could possibly get

That bit I do believe. Language barrier and translation.

"Did you smuggle the item in?"

"Yes."

She did smuggle it if she didn't declare it. But if their word for smuggle means 'with intent to supply' it's a different thing she admitted to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if it was half a kilo of heroin to Thailand would anyone feel any sympathy? Same crime, same deal. No sympathy. She thought she could get away with it, she didn't...suck it up, buttercup.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She did the crime so should do the time. Anybody with half a braincell would know taking prescription tablets in a large quantity into a foreign country isn't a good idea. Same as the "Peru Two" that got done for drugs snuggling and then cried to the papers how unfair it all was that they had a tough time in jail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hard to feel sorry but prison in another country? Probably doesn't speak the language either. She'll be someone's wife, mother or sister etc so in my eyes it's very sad

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Geeky x "

How does describing yourself as glamorous make you thick?

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

As usual, a Brit goes abroad, gets into trouble, then bleats the "I didn't know" card plus works on the basis that because they're British, don't UK laws apply abroad?

No, they don't! Travel guides are available to say what you can and can't do. The UK Government's website advises holiday makers what rules exist country by country!

Plus, when you leave the UK by whatever means, there us a chance you'll be asked ..

Did you pack your luggage yourself?

Since you did so, have you left your luggage unattended?

Are you carrying anything in your luggage on behalf of someone else?

The answers are clear; her responses were obviously wrong! That is, if her bags were fully and properly scanned too?

But ignorance is no defence and really, she only has herself to blame.

Then her family on the news bulletins this morning are bleating about the 60 days to wait until an appeal can be heard! In some countries, it could gave been far far longer, if at all!

They have to accept they are dealing with a foreign country where the legal systems work far more slowly. It's not the UK.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Hard to feel sorry but prison in another country? Probably doesn't speak the language either. She'll be someone's wife, mother or sister etc so in my eyes it's very sad

Yes she is and if it was my daughter I'd be frightened for her and furiously angry with her at the same time. Id also be using any method possible to get her released and keep her case in the public eye.

She was at best incredibly naive and stupid and at worst a cynical drug smuggler out to make money. In her families shoes I'd probably be doing and saying similar to them.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"As usual, a Brit goes abroad, gets into trouble, then bleats the "I didn't know" card plus works on the basis that because they're British, don't UK laws apply abroad?

No, they don't! Travel guides are available to say what you can and can't do. The UK Government's website advises holiday makers what rules exist country by country!

Plus, when you leave the UK by whatever means, there us a chance you'll be asked ..

Did you pack your luggage yourself?

Since you did so, have you left your luggage unattended?

Are you carrying anything in your luggage on behalf of someone else?

The answers are clear; her responses were obviously wrong! That is, if her bags were fully and properly scanned too?

But ignorance is no defence and really, she only has herself to blame.

Then her family on the news bulletins this morning are bleating about the 60 days to wait until an appeal can be heard! In some countries, it could gave been far far longer, if at all!

They have to accept they are dealing with a foreign country where the legal systems work far more slowly. It's not the UK."

The UK travel guide for Egypt wasn't updated re tramadol until after she'd been arrested and last time we left the country we weren't aked any questions about the contents of our suitcases.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By purchasing I of course mean through a prescription."

You can’t get a prescription for 290 tabs!

That quantity could not have been obtained legitimately/legally here.

It smacks more of claiming to be naive after the event!

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By *imandHerNottsCouple
over a year ago

North Notts

We are not convinced for a second that anyone carrying the best part of 300 opiate containing tablets to a country that has a huge addiction problem and a big market for prescription opiates was as innocent and naive as she made out.

That said she should be deported to serve the time in a British prison. It seems likely we will have an Egyptian prisoner here that we could swap!!

This is also very politically motivated in my opinion and stems back to when we (The uk) publicly slated Egypt’s poor airport security measures and stopped flights to Sharm back in 2015.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

By purchasing I of course mean through a prescription.

You can’t get a prescription for 290 tabs!

That quantity could not have been obtained legitimately/legally here.

It smacks more of claiming to be naive after the event!"

Don't they all.

Funny the type of cases the media champion too. If it had been a "jack the lad" type, Denzel, Fatima or Laquisha it wouldn't have been mentioned. A queen mother or English rose type and it's another story.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"As usual, a Brit goes abroad, gets into trouble, then bleats the "I didn't know" card plus works on the basis that because they're British, don't UK laws apply abroad?

No, they don't! Travel guides are available to say what you can and can't do. The UK Government's website advises holiday makers what rules exist country by country!

Plus, when you leave the UK by whatever means, there us a chance you'll be asked ..

Did you pack your luggage yourself?

Since you did so, have you left your luggage unattended?

Are you carrying anything in your luggage on behalf of someone else?

The answers are clear; her responses were obviously wrong! That is, if her bags were fully and properly scanned too?

But ignorance is no defence and really, she only has herself to blame.

Then her family on the news bulletins this morning are bleating about the 60 days to wait until an appeal can be heard! In some countries, it could gave been far far longer, if at all!

They have to accept they are dealing with a foreign country where the legal systems work far more slowly. It's not the UK."

Exactly!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How does this even warrant making the news tbh

Stupid behaviour in a harsh laws country lands a person in prison. Who would have thought

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

The UK travel guide for Egypt wasn't updated re tramadol until after she'd been arrested and last time we left the country we weren't aked any questions about the contents of our suitcases."

People travelling outside the UK with prescription drugs have always been advised to take the prescription with them too, to prove they have been legitimately prescribed for their own use.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

The UK travel guide for Egypt wasn't updated re tramadol until after she'd been arrested and last time we left the country we weren't aked any questions about the contents of our suitcases.

People travelling outside the UK with prescription drugs have always been advised to take the prescription with them too, to prove they have been legitimately prescribed for their own use. "

We always take ours in the box with our names on etc. We can't take the prescription, the pharmacist doesn't give it back, will they if you ask?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

We can't take the prescription, the pharmacist doesn't give it back, will they if you ask?"

If you know you will be going abroad with the drugs take a photocopy or scan of the prescription before it is dispensed.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

We can't take the prescription, the pharmacist doesn't give it back, will they if you ask?

If you know you will be going abroad with the drugs take a photocopy or scan of the prescription before it is dispensed. "

That's interesting. I haven't seen a prescription for years all ours go direct to the pharmacy. It might be worth finding out what to do in that case for future reference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just reading about it now, it said she was a frequent traveller to Egypt so I wonder if this is the first time she'd taken them or just the first time she got caught?

Ginger

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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago

Henley Arden

What utter rubbish about a repeat prescription This is a waste of NHS money.

If you have a months supply then it does not take a month to get a doctors appointment to get more if you need them.

If you have a recurring problem most Drs will issue a new prescription via a telephone appointment.

Keep getting a repeat prescription through laziness is just another thing wrong with the NHS. If you had pay full amount you only buy what you need

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a Class-C controlled drug, you can get two years for possession with intent to supply in this country. Why would anyone think it would be OK to take it to another country in large quantities?

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

It's dodgy of course. People must think other countries are stupid. They have laws for a reason, we may no agree with their laws. she obviously didn't keep the prescription receipts. She's the sort of person that helps bankrupt the NHS. Faking illness so her GP with give her medication to give to her BF in another country who is probably selling them as they are a drug of abuse and that's why it's now classified as a CD in the UK. Saying that she is not a "drug mule" she didn't attempt to conceal them and it is obvious she is not a criminal so 3yrs is a lengthy period in a foreign jail. She should be extradited back to the UK and face the music hear for de-frauding the UK (slap on the wrist).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone foolish or naïve enough to carry a package onto a plane for someone else,are they deserving of sympathy?

She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?"

I don't think you can be dispensed any more than a month's supply of tramadol - might be wrong- and no one will go through that number in a month. On the face of it, it sounds like a lie and she was knowingly supplying and as such, she was fairly judged.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"It's dodgy of course. People must think other countries are stupid. They have laws for a reason, we may no agree with their laws. she obviously didn't keep the prescription receipts. She's the sort of person that helps bankrupt the NHS. Faking illness so her GP with give her medication to give to her BF in another country who is probably selling them as they are a drug of abuse and that's why it's now classified as a CD in the UK. Saying that she is not a "drug mule" she didn't attempt to conceal them and it is obvious she is not a criminal so 3yrs is a lengthy period in a foreign jail. She should be extradited back to the UK and face the music hear for de-frauding the UK (slap on the wrist).

She didn't fake illness to get them prescribed she was given them by a colleague.

She is a criminal as she broke the law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What i cant get over is on our local news...Look North on the BBC...That's the British Broadcasting Corporation....BBC has other meanings on this site...was her stupid local Labour Mp condoning her behaviour....our legal system would be well and truly fucked if those clowns get back into power....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What i cant get over is on our local news...Look North on the BBC...That's the British Broadcasting Corporation....BBC has other meanings on this site...was her stupid local Labour Mp condoning her behaviour....our legal system would be well and truly fucked if those clowns get back into power...."

Saw the arsehole yesterday on the news and the biggest thing that struck me was bet he wouldn't have been so belligerent if New Labour was still in power!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British woman jailed for 3 years for smuggling 290 Tramadol tablets into Egypt.

Any sympathy for her?

None

Consequences

Ignorance is no excuse

Just saying

What would Judy say?

The same as me, obvs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?

She sourced the pills illegally, concealed them in packaging claiming them to be paracetamol, and in her defence claimed she carried them onto a plane without knowing it wasn't a bomb.

3 years is very lenient in my opinion.

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By *eather_Loves_SexWoman
over a year ago

Halfway Between London and Brighton

The UK travel guide for Egypt wasn't updated re tramadol until after she'd been arrested and last time we left the country we weren't aked any questions about the contents of our suitcases.

People travelling outside the UK with prescription drugs have always been advised to take the prescription with them too, to prove they have been legitimately prescribed for their own use.

We always take ours in the box with our names on etc. We can't take the prescription, the pharmacist doesn't give it back, will they if you ask?"
We would always photocopy it for you xx

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

The UK travel guide for Egypt wasn't updated re tramadol until after she'd been arrested and last time we left the country we weren't aked any questions about the contents of our suitcases.

People travelling outside the UK with prescription drugs have always been advised to take the prescription with them too, to prove they have been legitimately prescribed for their own use.

We always take ours in the box with our names on etc. We can't take the prescription, the pharmacist doesn't give it back, will they if you ask? We would always photocopy it for you xx "

that's good to know, thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it was a packet then yeah I'd think it was harsh, still it would be illegal but 290 is more than a bit suspicious. Who on earth needs that many? A friend took 1 once at work and she was out of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should have plugged them lmao going down for tramadol bad times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Being naive shouldn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. Are we so hard hearted?

She sourced the pills illegally, concealed them in packaging claiming them to be paracetamol, and in her defence claimed she carried them onto a plane without knowing it wasn't a bomb.

3 years is very lenient in my opinion."

Hear, hear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

point is they were not even for her .

people get bad backs allover the world and get prescribed pain killers by there doctor

im sure her fella with the bad back can get pain killers without the need for her to bring them from uk

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By *otForSoftiesWoman
over a year ago

The North / Party Hard Everywhere

Latest news in the local paper is her interview at the time of arrest has been released. It included the comments she’s been ‘married’ to him since 2014 but didn’t know his last name when questioned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Latest news in the local paper is her interview at the time of arrest has been released. It included the comments she’s been ‘married’ to him since 2014 but didn’t know his last name when questioned

I think got what she deserved and whoever got her the tablets needs investigating as well.

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By *otForSoftiesWoman
over a year ago

The North / Party Hard Everywhere

I think got what she deserved and whoever got her the tablets needs investigating as well. "

Her family are pleading with the president to let her out. HDM are running 10 stories a day about her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hard to feel sorry but prison in another country? Probably doesn't speak the language either. She'll be someone's wife, mother or sister etc so in my eyes it's very sad

She was at best incredibly naive and stupid and at worst a cynical drug smuggler out to make money. In her families shoes I'd probably be doing and saying similar to them."

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over a year ago

I think got what she deserved and whoever got her the tablets needs investigating as well.

Her family are pleading with the president to let her out. HDM are running 10 stories a day about her

How many rightly against her?

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By *otForSoftiesWoman
over a year ago

The North / Party Hard Everywhere

I think got what she deserved and whoever got her the tablets needs investigating as well.

Her family are pleading with the president to let her out. HDM are running 10 stories a day about her

How many rightly against her?"

Most are if you look at the comments on fb on HDM and other hull groups

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

I think got what she deserved and whoever got her the tablets needs investigating as well.

Her family are pleading with the president to let her out. HDM are running 10 stories a day about her

How many rightly against her?

Most are if you look at the comments on fb on HDM and other hull groups "

Understandably, the only people on her side are her family & friends. Everyone else considers she's got herself into this mess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think got what she deserved and whoever got her the tablets needs investigating as well.

Her family are pleading with the president to let her out. HDM are running 10 stories a day about her

How many rightly against her?

Most are if you look at the comments on fb on HDM and other hull groups "

To be honest, she doesn't interest that much, suffice to say that she's where she should be for what she's done.

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