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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

A bit of a change from the sex chat etc.. What does everyone make of the revelation last weekend that after 70 years of denials, the US pentagon admitting that it has been spending $22 million per year on UFO research, and for the first time releasing UFO footage shot by the US navy?

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

More disinformation to keep to conspiracy theorists happy..

They are now out in their droves saying I told you so..

Proves nothing other than its several billion dollars that could have been better spent on many more useful things..

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By *itmanAndHerrCouple
over a year ago

st helens

Have they released a breakdown of the budget? I'd love to know exactly what ufo research entails.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell them I'll do it for a mere $10 mil a year. Bargain!

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

All it says is they've spent money researching the reports. To try to establish if the sightings are alien or from potential human agressors with newer tech than the US has.

It doesn't suggest they believe or have evidence of aliens.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

It would be a lot cheaper to just research some of the scrotes that live in Northampton. I swear they are aliens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A bit of a change from the sex chat etc.. What does everyone make of the revelation last weekend that after 70 years of denials, the US pentagon admitting that it has been spending $22 million per year on UFO research, and for the first time releasing UFO footage shot by the US navy? "
if I was an American citizen I would think its ridiculous not least that they lied but that I elected them to research it but I'm not so I don't give a flying fig

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

"All it says is they've spent money researching the reports. To try to establish if the sightings are alien or from potential human agressors with newer tech than the US has.

It doesn't suggest they believe or have evidence of aliens."

Also, they would naturally be investigating any unidentified airborne or space objects as part of their defence programme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasted money.

Without doubt, in my humble opinion, there is life out there. But, they definitely haven't visited us, the earth is an inconsequential planet orbiting an extremely unremarkable little Sun. We'd be difficult to be even be found in the enormity of the Cornish, let alone visited then ignored, save the hillbillies who've being anal probed obviously!

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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

"All it says is they've spent money researching the reports. To try to establish if the sightings are alien or from potential human agressors with newer tech than the US has.

It doesn't suggest they believe or have evidence of aliens.

Also, they would naturally be investigating any unidentified airborne or space objects as part of their defence programme.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Wasted money is right. If there is life elsewhere it's in another solar system and however advanced they are, it's still too far to be able to travel here.

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By *witcherooMan
over a year ago

Muirhead

Parallel spending in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Have they released a breakdown of the budget? I'd love to know exactly what ufo research entails. "

yes me too.. $100 million is a lot of money to spend on something we've been told for 70 years doesn't exist, even though during the second world war , numerous pilots reported seeing ' foo Fighters ' . The US thought it may be secret German weapons until the Germans and Japanese reported similar sightings

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By *itmanAndHerrCouple
over a year ago

st helens

"Parallel spending in my opinion. "

Or justifying a number of persons high wages.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"Parallel spending in my opinion. "

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Wasted money is right. If there is life elsewhere it's in another solar system and however advanced they are, it's still too far to be able to travel here."

the idea is this.

They've got reports of Unidentified Flying Objects.

Question: Are they alien, or are they Russian planes using some advanced technology.

I'm sure the US military would be interested if either Russians or Aliens are wizzing round the earth. So they've spent some money finding if either have any credibilty.

Not about travelling to another part of the universe.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

The Pentagon’s project, called the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, was reportedly established in 2007 to investigate unexplained aerial phenomena that appeared to be using novel propulsive, hovering, or otherwise advanced technologies.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

But they know that when they mention UFO's and when they say things like:

"it was travelling faster than anything I've ever seen, and it just accelerated away"

They know that the logical presumption that most people will make is - aliens, not Russians.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ancient Egyptians wrote of objects in the sky ,long before man could fly

Now im not saying I believe nor am I saying I disbelieve

The truth is out there ....somewhere

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"But they know that when they mention UFO's and when they say things like:

"it was travelling faster than anything I've ever seen, and it just accelerated away"

They know that the logical presumption that most people will make is - aliens, not Russians."

It doesn't matter what other people presume. It's their job to establish if the Russians have technology to do that. It's their job to do some investigation if it actually happened or was just a pissed up hill-billy.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

I love people who always know how to spend the military budget better than the military does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasted money is right. If there is life elsewhere it's in another solar system and however advanced they are, it's still too far to be able to travel here.

the idea is this.

They've got reports of Unidentified Flying Objects.

Question: Are they alien, or are they Russian planes using some advanced technology.

I'm sure the US military would be interested if either Russians or Aliens are wizzing round the earth. So they've spent some money finding if either have any credibilty.

Not about travelling to another part of the universe."

That makes sense.

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By *witcherooMan
over a year ago

Muirhead

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts. "

100 million spent. My reckoning is 10million on UFO research and 90 million on developing new craft which no one has ever seen before and therefore may look strange to us.....which also perpetuates the myth of aliens.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts.

No chance. That craft design would have leaked out long ago, and the Russians and the Chinese would have copied it.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts.

90 million military spending wouldn't develop a new infatable rubber ring, no where near a new technology aircraft. Add a few zeros on the end maybe.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think everyone should search youtube for interviews with Captain Bowyer a British Airways pilot with over two decades flying experience , telling of the experience he had that was verified by radar , passengers and other pilots, as part of their research. As well as the Zimbabwe school children, who witnessed something pretty strange . This was investigated by one of the leading harvard professors who visited them and filmed what they had to say about their experiences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The interesting thing is that the us navy pilot's with thousands of hours flying experience flying the very latest airforce technology... Well they were quite sure that what they saw was NOT terrestrial

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By *witcherooMan
over a year ago

Muirhead

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts.

90 million military spending wouldn't develop a new infatable rubber ring, no where near a new technology aircraft. Add a few zeros on the end maybe."

I know but I think the 100million is a blah figure anyway. Do you believe anything they tell us lol.

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By *witcherooMan
over a year ago

Muirhead

"I think everyone should search youtube for interviews with Captain Bowyer a British Airways pilot with over two decades flying experience , telling of the experience he had that was verified by radar , passengers and other pilots, as part of their research. As well as the Zimbabwe school children, who witnessed something pretty strange . This was investigated by one of the leading harvard professors who visited them and filmed what they had to say about their experiences. "

What would I need to search for to see the Zimbabwe video mate ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

yes, fascinating stuff really. In some ways this should be bigger news than it is. But maybe careful rolling out of the news is better than having it on the front pages, as no doubt mass hysteria could very easily be worked up

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

If you're telling me he claimed to have paid less than £20 for an on-board sandwich, I'm calling bullshit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If you're telling me he claimed to have paid less than £20 for an on-board sandwich, I'm calling bullshit."

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

If you're telling me he claimed to have paid less than £20 for an on-board sandwich, I'm calling bullshit."

Well the last time I flew BA (October) the Captain told us that we would push back from the stand early. We didn't. He then told us that we would arrive early. We arrived late.

So I wouldn't automatically believe what one of them said!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What would I need to search for to see the Zimbabwe video mate ? "

Just enter Zimbabwe children UFo in youtube and you should see a couple of videos mate

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If you're telling me he claimed to have paid less than £20 for an on-board sandwich, I'm calling bullshit.

Well the last time I flew BA (October) the Captain told us that we would push back from the stand early. We didn't. He then told us that we would arrive early. We arrived late.

So I wouldn't automatically believe what one of them said!"

HAHA, maybe you should watch it and make your own mind up, and also see what Obama's pilot has to say on the subject

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I love people who always know how to spend the military budget better than the military does

HAHAHAH .. x

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

If you're telling me he claimed to have paid less than £20 for an on-board sandwich, I'm calling bullshit.

Well the last time I flew BA (October) the Captain told us that we would push back from the stand early. We didn't. He then told us that we would arrive early. We arrived late.

So I wouldn't automatically believe what one of them said!

HAHA, maybe you should watch it and make your own mind up, and also see what Obama's pilot has to say on the subject "

I wouldn't trust anyone connected with Obama!

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts. "

Control of airspace is the responsibility of the airforce and NASA, the navy have no interest except their own little bubble within 50 miles of any vessel, extending up only a couple of miles.

It would seem the navy had money that didn't know what else to do with because if you don't spend it you lose it..

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By *witcherooMan
over a year ago

Muirhead

What would I need to search for to see the Zimbabwe video mate ?

Just enter Zimbabwe children UFo in youtube and you should see a couple of videos mate "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More disinformation to keep to conspiracy theorists happy..

They are now out in their droves saying I told you so..

Proves nothing other than its several billion dollars that could have been better spent on many more useful things.. "
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You seem very aggressive towards it?.

It in fact did tell us something, it told us that around 10-15% of these reports are completely unexplainable!.... They remain a mystery that some hypothesis towards extra terrestrial encounters being the most obvious explanation

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

More disinformation to keep to conspiracy theorists happy..

They are now out in their droves saying I told you so..

Proves nothing other than its several billion dollars that could have been better spent on many more useful things.. .

You seem very aggressive towards it?.

Or do they tell us that they would not care to explain these incidents, or they would like us to think that they are incapable of explanation?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts.

Control of airspace is the responsibility of the airforce and NASA, the navy have no interest except their own little bubble within 50 miles of any vessel, extending up only a couple of miles.

It would seem the navy had money that didn't know what else to do with because if you don't spend it you lose it.. "
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Your commenting on something but I'd like to know what you've read about it?.

Coz it wasn't a navy programme, the video was from us navy planes, it was one of the reports that the programme investigated

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts.

Control of airspace is the responsibility of the airforce and NASA, the navy have no interest except their own little bubble within 50 miles of any vessel, extending up only a couple of miles.

It would seem the navy had money that didn't know what else to do with because if you don't spend it you lose it.. "

The spending wasn't by the navy. It came from the Pentagon . Look up the article in the Washington post or New York Times. Historic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thousands of sightings go completely unreported due to the "public reaction" of actually trying to report this phenomenon!.

The us navy pilot's in this case stated they probably wouldn't have said Jack shit if the whole thing hadn't of actually been caught on tape

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parallel spending in my opinion.

Correct. A commercial airliner that strays into US airspace is an UFO.

A missile fired by N. Korea towards Hawaii would be the same.

The spending will be a column in the Defence accounts.

Control of airspace is the responsibility of the airforce and NASA, the navy have no interest except their own little bubble within 50 miles of any vessel, extending up only a couple of miles.

It would seem the navy had money that didn't know what else to do with because if you don't spend it you lose it..

The spending wasn't by the navy. It came from the Pentagon . Look up the article in the Washington post or New York Times. Historic "
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I think it was actually started by democratic senator acting on behalf of hundreds of his constituents who'd reported seeing the phenomenon and wanted the government to give them an answer to what it might have been.

Alot of the reports are explainable but a small percentage are not, these cases are quite fascinating to me and many others

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By *witcherooMan
over a year ago

Muirhead

I still haven’t seen the footage of it, I only saw it mentioned on the news strap line along the bottom.

Is that sexchat ?

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

A leak from the report proves the CIA were helped by aliens in planting explosives in the trade centre towers and using their gravity beams to push the jets into them. Fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had two such first hand experiences. One was whilst airborne over Bristol in a helicopter, at night, in the late '90's. Bristol air traffic reported an unknown contact on a conflicting course and when we altered course to avoid it, it changed too, to maintain the confliction. This happened several times before it disappeared from radar altogether. It was never resolved. The other was close to RAF Fairford, when a dozen of so people including 2 USAF Police officers witnessed coloured lights moving in an erratic manner and doing manoeuvres not possible for known aircraft types.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"A leak from the report proves the CIA were helped by aliens in planting explosives in the trade centre towers and using their gravity beams to push the jets into them. Fact."

Stop lying, it was the lizard people who did that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I have had two such first hand experiences. One was whilst airborne over Bristol in a helicopter, at night, in the late '90's. Bristol air traffic reported an unknown contact on a conflicting course and when we altered course to avoid it, it changed too, to maintain the confliction. This happened several times before it disappeared from radar altogether. It was never resolved. The other was close to RAF Fairford, when a dozen of so people including 2 USAF Police officers witnessed coloured lights moving in an erratic manner and doing manoeuvres not possible for known aircraft types. "

WOW.. thats bloody fascinating . Thanks for sharing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With much more aircraft being in the sky than ever before it's no wonder there are literally thousands of sightings from civil aircraft to military.

Unfortunately due to being labelled as some sort of fruit cake by some parts of the public people find out much harder to report them than they did several decades ago.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"A leak from the report proves the CIA were helped by aliens in planting explosives in the trade centre towers and using their gravity beams to push the jets into them. Fact.

Stop lying, it was the lizard people who did that."
It was Trump !! Everything else seems to be hia fault

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple
over a year ago

South Wales

What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"A leak from the report proves the CIA were helped by aliens in planting explosives in the trade centre towers and using their gravity beams to push the jets into them. Fact.

Stop lying, it was the lizard people who did that. It was Trump !! Everything else seems to be hia fault

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?"
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What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of reports and sightings from around the globe, video, radar, multiply witnessed from high ranking military personal to civil aviation pilot's to police to ordinary citizens most of whom have no personal gain to make and an awful lot of ridicule from some small closed minded bigots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The government would be in the wrong for not investigating...

If sufficient people are reporting unexplained phenomena and the government chose to ignore it, there would be criticism.

More often than not, research done on behalf of the Military can often end up having civilian applications down the line.

I'm agnostic on the subject of UFO's mind. Most things have a logical explanation.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Guess it's just a tiny amount from a huge military budget, spent for defense from unknown vehicles of earthly origin.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Bravo!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The government would be in the wrong for not investigating...

If sufficient people are reporting unexplained phenomena and the government chose to ignore it, there would be criticism.

More often than not, research done on behalf of the Military can often end up having civilian applications down the line.

I'm agnostic on the subject of UFO's mind. Most things have a logical explanation."

Why would aliens not be logical?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My view on this.

A ufo is an “unidentified flying object” not necessarily a flying object containing aliens from another world.

UFOs are real, but just new test air craft that world governments are cutting about in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bullshit!, like usual. UFO is not visitors from space, just military , civilian and weather phenomenon.

What is interesting is that recently a asteroid shaped like a cigar shape and it flew close to our sun and survived.

Up For Out(UFO)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

$22 million isn't much for the pentagon. I expect they spend more than that on biros every year.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Bullshit!, like usual. UFO is not visitors from space, just military , civilian and weather phenomenon.

What is interesting is that recently a asteroid shaped like a cigar shape and it flew close to our sun and survived.

Up For Out(UFO)

I think you need to do your research. The pentagon has now come out admitting that Ufo's exist, that materials discovered have not come from earth , and have released footage from the US navy. You are simply repeating the line pushed during the so called ' truth embargo ' that has lasted for over 70 years. We're now in a different era ..

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple
over a year ago

South Wales

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence."

Conspiracy theories are invented to keep bored housewives busy.

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

well i dont really belive a word they say .. i do however believe some ufo's being from somewhere other than earth.. outer space or perhaps from a different time/dimension

always amazes me when people just refuse to except the possible existence of something they dont understand

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I believe alien life probably exists somewhere and they might travel the universe.

What I find difficult to believe is that they are able to travel at light speed, evade radar and telescopes, yet manage to get spotted by someone wandering along on a night time walk. Very odd.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe alien life probably exists somewhere and they might travel the universe.

What I find difficult to believe is that they are able to travel at light speed, evade radar and telescopes, yet manage to get spotted by someone wandering along on a night time walk. Very odd.....

Lol hhhaaa brilliant

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

"I believe alien life probably exists somewhere and they might travel the universe.

What I find difficult to believe is that they are able to travel at light speed, evade radar and telescopes, yet manage to get spotted by someone wandering along on a night time walk. Very odd.....

plenty have been caught on radar

and been seen by credible witnesses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe alien life probably exists somewhere and they might travel the universe.

What I find difficult to believe is that they are able to travel at light speed, evade radar and telescopes, yet manage to get spotted by someone wandering along on a night time walk. Very odd.....

plenty have been caught on radar

and been seen by credible witnesses"

That's it send in Mulder and Sculley, get those X-Files open again and get the real truth..!!!

Mulder and Sculley are real right...????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe alien life probably exists somewhere and they might travel the universe.

What I find difficult to believe is that they are able to travel at light speed, evade radar and telescopes, yet manage to get spotted by someone wandering along on a night time walk. Very odd.....

This exactly.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Ufo's, flat earth, God exists, ghosts, a government that cares about people. ALL MADE UP BULLSHIT. Imo.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Ufo's, flat earth, God exists, ghosts, a government that cares about people. ALL MADE UP BULLSHIT. Imo."

That being said...... the most likely truth in all that, is that we are not alone in the universe..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m not alone in my kitchen yet alone the universe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence."
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Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

For two weeks in that area radar had tracked several times crafts that were "interacting" with navy warships and planes, this particular moment was caught after about ten scrambles to intercept in that two week period, the two planes which intercepted the craft reported it to be going from 80,000 feet altitude to hovering 50 feet above sea level in only a few seconds, it rotated and had no wings and on the ir camera seemed to be producing no exhaust gases, they had visible sight at close range for several minutes on a perfectly blue lovely weather day, the two pilot's with 1000s of hours flying experience said "in their opinion it was not of terrestrial origin" and broke all principles of physics and aeronautics that they currently use!.....

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

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"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

So where can we read about this for ourselves?

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

So where can we read about this for ourselves? "
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It was pretty much all over the media two week back, the pilot even gave an interview on American tv

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject.

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over a year ago

"I believe alien life probably exists somewhere and they might travel the universe.

What I find difficult to believe is that they are able to travel at light speed, evade radar and telescopes, yet manage to get spotted by someone wandering along on a night time walk. Very odd.....

This exactly."

They have been spotted by radar too. There are numerous reports from air traffic control

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over a year ago

"The government would be in the wrong for not investigating...

If sufficient people are reporting unexplained phenomena and the government chose to ignore it, there would be criticism.

More often than not, research done on behalf of the Military can often end up having civilian applications down the line.

I'm agnostic on the subject of UFO's mind. Most things have a logical explanation.

Why would aliens not be logical? "

A good point. If this planet is the only planet in the Universe capable of sustaining life, I'd be surprised.

To assume we are and that we are the most advanced civilisation is a touch arrogant.

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over a year ago

Don't know what to think really.

The US being the God fearing country it is, I'd think would not benefit from the theory of Creationism being blown out of the water.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

So where can we read about this for ourselves? .

It was pretty much all over the media two week back, the pilot even gave an interview on American tv"

Good vid

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. "
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When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

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"The government would be in the wrong for not investigating...

If sufficient people are reporting unexplained phenomena and the government chose to ignore it, there would be criticism.

More often than not, research done on behalf of the Military can often end up having civilian applications down the line.

I'm agnostic on the subject of UFO's mind. Most things have a logical explanation.

Why would aliens not be logical?

A good point. If this planet is the only planet in the Universe capable of sustaining life, I'd be surprised.

To assume we are and that we are the most advanced civilisation is a touch arrogant.

The poster said they were agnostic on the subject. They aren't assuming that or being arrogant.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

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I did hear one of the pilots at work came back from a sortie shaken up talking about something he couldn't catch up with. But he was flying a jag so it could have been a Cessna!

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

"
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Actually that's a Mulder quote

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

Actually that's a Mulder quote

The truth is out there, but are the masses ready for the truth?

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over a year ago

salisbury

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

Actually that's a Mulder quote

The truth is out there, but are the masses ready for the truth? "

And could they careless?!

Government: "Aliens are real"

People: "Do i still have to go to work? "

Government: "Yes"

People:"Fuck it."

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"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

Actually that's a Mulder quote

The truth is out there, but are the masses ready for the truth? "
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Being perfectly honest....I very much doubt it!!.

Technology evolves much faster than humans, were at a funny point in human evolution which is why we are where we are politically and maybe even spiritually, disclosure will either make us or break us

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

Actually that's a Mulder quote

The truth is out there, but are the masses ready for the truth? .

Being perfectly honest....I very much doubt it!!.

Full disclosure can't be far off

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"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

Actually that's a Mulder quote

The truth is out there, but are the masses ready for the truth? .

Being perfectly honest....I very much doubt it!!.

Full disclosure can't be far off "

Full disclosure would bring nothing new to the table.

There are no aliens = Cover up.

There are aliens = Cover up.

It would led to either why are we only being told now, or the governments are making it up to hide a darker truth.

No one will trust any Government either way....

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over a year ago

Yeah, 22 mil on ufo's... honest! Not just putting that on the label of the folder for cost of surveillance of the internet

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over a year ago

"What of all the conspiracy theories - aliens, area 51, fake moon landings etc - were started by the government to distract from what's REALLY going on?.

What's really going on?.

Tens of thousands of 'reports' which you clearly take on face value.

Riiiiiight!

Somebody could tell you a 'pilot' says the world is flat and you'd believe it, even though you have no personal evidence..

Actually this particular case invoiced the eye witness testimony of a dozen or so high ranking very credible military personal, video, radar observation.

That is hardly called just taking random strangers accounts at face value!

Point well made! So many people still in denial when it comes to this subject. .

When you investigate something and can rule out all other explanations whatever remains however illogical is the likely explanation

Thank you, Sherlock!

Actually that's a Mulder quote

The truth is out there, but are the masses ready for the truth? .

Being perfectly honest....I very much doubt it!!.

Full disclosure can't be far off

Full disclosure would bring nothing new to the table.

There are no aliens = Cover up.

There are aliens = Cover up.

It would led to either why are we only being told now, or the governments are making it up to hide a darker truth.

No one will trust any Government either way...."

Maybe so .. only time will tell.. So many people have closed minds about this. Anyone would think they've been programmed

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over a year ago

Fab needs to spend some of their budget to see if there are any aliens on here...

Na-nu na-nu

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over a year ago

It's finally proof that fools and money are soon parted. It was started by a senator who is a renowned UFOlogist, which is exactly the last type of person to listen to about extraterrestrial life.

Some people found it harder to believe the proram ended than that a lifeform gained the intelligence so advanced that they were able to desgin technology capable of travelling billions of light years across galaxies and upon eventually discovering other life in the universe, they decided to play a prank in a giant game of hide and seek, before abducting redneck hillbillies from remote woodland areas to perfom anal probes on them. The truth is up there.

The odds are high that there is intelligent life somewhere in the universe. But semingly not on this planet.

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over a year ago

Watch a documentary called “Unacknowledged”

Perfect answer for this thread

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

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"Fab needs to spend some of their budget to see if there are any aliens on here...

Na-nu na-nu"

Shazbot !

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"Watch a documentary called “Unacknowledged”

Perfect answer for this thread

Thanks for the tip. I've heard of this film, but not seen it. Will check it out .

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