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"I wouldn’t arrange to meet if I couldnt afford to buy drinks on here or real world and if a meal is involved I always insist on going halves, if the other person insists they pay I would pay the next time ,,, " This xx | |||
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"I agree that women should share with costs although I do feel compelled to pay on the 1st few dates at least possibly because I'm moulded by what society deems to be right If I think I'm gettin the piss taken out of me though I drop em like a hot coal no matter who it is" Good for you too many women do take the piss these days... | |||
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"Was bought evening meal, must admit I "felt" a little uncomfortable about it as it was the first time it had happened to me." I feel uncomfortable like that every time a man insists on paying. I went on a date last week and the guy insisted on paying, which made me uncomfortable. So I just walked out and left him to it. He clearly didn't respect me enough to let me pay half, as I expressed was my wish, so I figured he wouldn't respect me if we got into bed. | |||
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"Was bought evening meal, must admit I "felt" a little uncomfortable about it as it was the first time it had happened to me. I feel uncomfortable like that every time a man insists on paying. I went on a date last week and the guy insisted on paying, which made me uncomfortable. So I just walked out and left him to it. He clearly didn't respect me enough to let me pay half, as I expressed was my wish, so I figured he wouldn't respect me if we got into bed." If a bloke cannot see what the percieved obligation on a woman is, by ignoring the wishes of her insisting on paying her share and how she may feel about this, needs to look at themselves. | |||
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"Was bought evening meal, must admit I "felt" a little uncomfortable about it as it was the first time it had happened to me. I feel uncomfortable like that every time a man insists on paying. I went on a date last week and the guy insisted on paying, which made me uncomfortable. So I just walked out and left him to it. He clearly didn't respect me enough to let me pay half, as I expressed was my wish, so I figured he wouldn't respect me if we got into bed. If a bloke cannot see what the percieved obligation on a woman is, by ignoring the wishes of her insisting on paying her share and how she may feel about this, needs to look at themselves. " And yet so often on this website it is touted as appropriate behaviour (and "chivalrous") that the man pays for everytbing. | |||
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"Was bought evening meal, must admit I "felt" a little uncomfortable about it as it was the first time it had happened to me. I feel uncomfortable like that every time a man insists on paying. I went on a date last week and the guy insisted on paying, which made me uncomfortable. So I just walked out and left him to it. He clearly didn't respect me enough to let me pay half, as I expressed was my wish, so I figured he wouldn't respect me if we got into bed. If a bloke cannot see what the percieved obligation on a woman is, by ignoring the wishes of her insisting on paying her share and how she may feel about this, needs to look at themselves. And yet so often on this website it is touted as appropriate behaviour (and "chivalrous") that the man pays for everytbing." As far as I'm concerned, offering to pay on a date is the right thing to do, that's the way I was bought up, but it's not a black and white issue, at the same time I feel more comfortable I'm paying for the meal and drinks, I'm not looking to push the issue if it makes my date feel uncomfortable. I think it foreshadows the way the relationship will be if you both can't compromise on the first date, then there shouldn't be a second | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? " I quite agree. | |||
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" As far as I'm concerned, offering to pay on a date is the right thing to do, that's the way I was bought up, " Me too. That's why I do it. | |||
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"Should be 50/50 surely? This isn't the dark ages... Women should pay half... Simples " This. | |||
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"Was bought evening meal, must admit I "felt" a little uncomfortable about it as it was the first time it had happened to me. I feel uncomfortable like that every time a man insists on paying. I went on a date last week and the guy insisted on paying, which made me uncomfortable. So I just walked out and left him to it. He clearly didn't respect me enough to let me pay half, as I expressed was my wish, so I figured he wouldn't respect me if we got into bed." | |||
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"Id i ask a lady on a date I'd pay.. If it was mutually arranged I'd still offer to pay but would go halves if the lady wanted to." You're from Yorkshire I'm amazed you offered to go halves! I'm old school and insist on paying every time. It's nice if a woman offers to chip in but I flatly refuse (in a nice way of course!). I dated a girl a couple of years back who never once offered to pay for anything though after 4 or 5 dates. She was full as dishwater as well so I can't believe I spent my hard earned on her for that long!! | |||
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"Id i ask a lady on a date I'd pay.. If it was mutually arranged I'd still offer to pay but would go halves if the lady wanted to. You're from Yorkshire I'm amazed you offered to go halves! I'm old school and insist on paying every time. It's nice if a woman offers to chip in but I flatly refuse (in a nice way of course!). I dated a girl a couple of years back who never once offered to pay for anything though after 4 or 5 dates. She was full as dishwater as well so I can't believe I spent my hard earned on her for that long!! " I often find that "old school" is just another word for chauvinistic. Although I must confess that I laughed at your post stating you always pay and then whining that someone let you pay for four or five dates... perhaps you might learn a lesson there, eh? | |||
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"I'd always offer but I do like when a man insists on paying. I like being treated sometimes. Id make sure I paid next time though. " lol | |||
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"Id i ask a lady on a date I'd pay.. If it was mutually arranged I'd still offer to pay but would go halves if the lady wanted to. You're from Yorkshire I'm amazed you offered to go halves! I'm old school and insist on paying every time. It's nice if a woman offers to chip in but I flatly refuse (in a nice way of course!). I dated a girl a couple of years back who never once offered to pay for anything though after 4 or 5 dates. She was full as dishwater as well so I can't believe I spent my hard earned on her for that long!! I often find that "old school" is just another word for chauvinistic. Although I must confess that I laughed at your post stating you always pay and then whining that someone let you pay for four or five dates... perhaps you might learn a lesson there, eh?" Chauvinistic? I dunno, maybe it is, but not intended in an offensive way. I also like to open doors for women etc and guess I'm a bit of an old school romantic. I guess I'll have to relax those views if it genuine pisses people off but it's never come to that quite yet. As for the "learning a lesson", nah she was just so fucking boring!! | |||
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"Id i ask a lady on a date I'd pay.. If it was mutually arranged I'd still offer to pay but would go halves if the lady wanted to. You're from Yorkshire I'm amazed you offered to go halves! I'm old school and insist on paying every time. It's nice if a woman offers to chip in but I flatly refuse (in a nice way of course!). I dated a girl a couple of years back who never once offered to pay for anything though after 4 or 5 dates. She was full as dishwater as well so I can't believe I spent my hard earned on her for that long!! I often find that "old school" is just another word for chauvinistic. Although I must confess that I laughed at your post stating you always pay and then whining that someone let you pay for four or five dates... perhaps you might learn a lesson there, eh? Chauvinistic? I dunno, maybe it is, but not intended in an offensive way. I also like to open doors for women etc and guess I'm a bit of an old school romantic. I guess I'll have to relax those views if it genuine pisses people off but it's never come to that quite yet. As for the "learning a lesson", nah she was just so fucking boring!! " So you paid for four or five dates even though she was "fucking boring"? Mate, I think you've got more money than sense! | |||
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"Id i ask a lady on a date I'd pay.. If it was mutually arranged I'd still offer to pay but would go halves if the lady wanted to. You're from Yorkshire I'm amazed you offered to go halves! I'm old school and insist on paying every time. It's nice if a woman offers to chip in but I flatly refuse (in a nice way of course!). I dated a girl a couple of years back who never once offered to pay for anything though after 4 or 5 dates. She was full as dishwater as well so I can't believe I spent my hard earned on her for that long!! I often find that "old school" is just another word for chauvinistic. Although I must confess that I laughed at your post stating you always pay and then whining that someone let you pay for four or five dates... perhaps you might learn a lesson there, eh? Chauvinistic? I dunno, maybe it is, but not intended in an offensive way. I also like to open doors for women etc and guess I'm a bit of an old school romantic. I guess I'll have to relax those views if it genuine pisses people off but it's never come to that quite yet. As for the "learning a lesson", nah she was just so fucking boring!! So you paid for four or five dates even though she was "fucking boring"? Mate, I think you've got more money than sense!" I was flattered, she was younger and obviously swayed by her looks. If you're after a rise you're looking in the wrong place "mate"! | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? " Disagree, call me old fashioned but I would never expect or allow a woman to buy me a drink! I would be offended if that happened. It’s a gentleman thing!! | |||
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"In this society even when a man and woman are doing the same job, e.g tv presenter or radio presenter , a job that requires no physical strength, where the man and woman are sitting on the same sofa, the man is still payed much higher than the ladies, so to preach we are equal is a bit unfair to the ladies. Food and drinks is the lowest level of something people should be sharing especially if the man called the date, I believe the man should pay for this , now if the woman calls the date and she is well off and she insists on paying the full bill that is a different case." We'll never find equality at work if blokes don't treat women as their equal socially. | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? Disagree, call me old fashioned but I would never expect or allow a woman to buy me a drink! I would be offended if that happened. It’s a gentleman thing!!" I'm not going to call you old fashioned, I'm going to call you selfish for putting your own feelings above those of a woman who might want to pay her own way. | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? Disagree, call me old fashioned but I would never expect or allow a woman to buy me a drink! I would be offended if that happened. It’s a gentleman thing!!" No, no really it isn't a gentleman thing It's an antiquated and condescending thing I am very much a gentleman that is I'm polite and respectful to all people | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? Disagree, call me old fashioned but I would never expect or allow a woman to buy me a drink! I would be offended if that happened. It’s a gentleman thing!! I'm not going to call you old fashioned, I'm going to call you selfish for putting your own feelings above those of a woman who might want to pay her own way." And in turn a woman who insists on paying half, or for her own is selfishly putting her own comfort before that of her date, like I said, if a compromise can't be reached on a first date there shouldn't be a second. I see nothing wrong with a woman wanting to pay her half of the bill, but I refuse to accept that just for uttering the words "I'll get this" that it makes me a footsoldier of the patriarchy, especially when how you have described the scenario reads. Woman pays: showing she is a strong independent woman of means, who in no way shape or form needs a man to look after her or validate her in any way. Man pays: out of touch patriarchal wanker. It's called equality for a reason, and we need to not lose sight of that | |||
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"I always offer to pay... Though I know some guys prefer to treat the ladies they meet, so I won't argue...I'll just make sure I get a round in while he's in the loo " This is the best way to do it!!!! TEQUILA!!!! | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? " I agree with you. I prefer if I can pay first but if he gets there first it's important for me to buy the next cuppa. | |||
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"I always offer to pay... Though I know some guys prefer to treat the ladies they meet, so I won't argue...I'll just make sure I get a round in while he's in the loo This is the best way to do it!!!! TEQUILA!!!!" Yes!!!! | |||
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"Well in my opinion I don't think it looks nice when I see a man and woman sharing bills" Why do you care so much about what other people think? Are you ashamed if people see you splitting the bill? | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? Disagree, call me old fashioned but I would never expect or allow a woman to buy me a drink! I would be offended if that happened. It’s a gentleman thing!! I'm not going to call you old fashioned, I'm going to call you selfish for putting your own feelings above those of a woman who might want to pay her own way. And in turn a woman who insists on paying half, or for her own is selfishly putting her own comfort before that of her date, like I said, if a compromise can't be reached on a first date there shouldn't be a second. I see nothing wrong with a woman wanting to pay her half of the bill, but I refuse to accept that just for uttering the words "I'll get this" that it makes me a footsoldier of the patriarchy, especially when how you have described the scenario reads. Woman pays: showing she is a strong independent woman of means, who in no way shape or form needs a man to look after her or validate her in any way. Man pays: out of touch patriarchal wanker. It's called equality for a reason, and we need to not lose sight of that" I've never said that about a woman. I think that people should split bills equally. As you said - it's called equality for a reason. | |||
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"If out on a social I will always pay for whoever i am entertaining... it's respectful, also the way I was brought up. " The man in my family are of this mind. I've only ever associated with men of this calibre x | |||
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"If out on a social I will always pay for whoever i am entertaining... it's respectful, also the way I was brought up. The man in my family are of this mind. I've only ever associated with men of this calibre x" But you were brought up to be special and not like the men in your family? Why, they didn't think you'd be successful enough to be able to go halves? | |||
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"I always offer to buy a drink. Just think it’s good manners " I always offer to pay, but if a lady wants to go 50/50 that's fine... | |||
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"I do the right thing and offer to pay my way. But thats because it’s the decent thing to do for the guy. However I will be extremely flattered if he insists on paying, as guys don’t have to do that these days. Personally experience is that I’ve been treated better and with more respect by guys who are more old fashioned in their dating etiquette. Men I’ve been involved with have always regarded me as a competent and independent woman, so when a man considers me worth treating when he knows he doesn’t have to, then I know his intentions are genuine. Mrs" Yes this | |||
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"If out on a social I will always pay for whoever i am entertaining... it's respectful, also the way I was brought up. The man in my family are of this mind. I've only ever associated with men of this calibre x But you were brought up to be special and not like the men in your family? Why, they didn't think you'd be successful enough to be able to go halves?" It's exactly as the gentleman said "it's respectful". If you knew me you'd know that I'm far from a princess AND I pay my way with everything as I'm a single and independent woman. Be careful jumping to conclusions and assuming. We are all special my dear. | |||
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"If out on a social I will always pay for whoever i am entertaining... it's respectful, also the way I was brought up. The man in my family are of this mind. I've only ever associated with men of this calibre x But you were brought up to be special and not like the men in your family? Why, they didn't think you'd be successful enough to be able to go halves? It's exactly as the gentleman said "it's respectful". If you knew me you'd know that I'm far from a princess AND I pay my way with everything as I'm a single and independent woman. Be careful jumping to conclusions and assuming. We are all special my dear. " Why is it respectful for men to pay but not women? | |||
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" Also ladies, how about you pay or at least offer to pay the whole entire bill on a date for once, would be a nice surprise for the man for a change and shows him that you enjoyed your first date together, also shows that you have your shit together and not just another bitch in a long string of bitches only looking for a free meal. " I understand that you're trying to be a good ally - but please don't refer to women as 'bitches'. It's really unpleasant and is just another piece of sexism. | |||
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" Also ladies, how about you pay or at least offer to pay the whole entire bill on a date for once, would be a nice surprise for the man for a change and shows him that you enjoyed your first date together, also shows that you have your shit together and not just another bitch in a long string of bitches only looking for a free meal. I understand that you're trying to be a good ally - but please don't refer to women as 'bitches'. It's really unpleasant and is just another piece of sexism." Who the heck wrote that?! | |||
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"Im a tad old fashioned and always pay for a meal and or a drink or two. It just seems the right thing to do. A lady deserves to be treated as a lady." A lady deserves to be treated as someone who cannot possibly earn enough money to pay halves on a date? | |||
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"On a date I always offer to buy drinks. Not impressed if a girl doesn’t even offer to buy a drink the whole night though. Seems a bit selfish. Thoughts? " Dear A Seemingly I come from another era or maybe a different planet in so far as if I meet a lady for drinks or lunch I wouldn’t dream of asking her to pay. Or am I sentimental old fool? | |||
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"Not at all. Just my up bringing im afraid." An upbringing by people who believe women incapable of paying. | |||
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"I love threads like this to get people arguing especially about gender and equality. The amount of you guys that want to be a gentleman and insist on paying for everything is ridiculous, having a vagina doesn't entitle her to anything and isn't an excuse for her getting a free ride, taking advantage of your stupidity and definitely in no way makes her the lady you think she is. Think of how much money you have wasted over the years on dates that have gotten you nowhere, being a gentleman and getting nothing in return. Yes we all like to make a good impression on a first date but isn't that what having simple manners is for? They are only women, they are not the little helpless creatures you think they are that need you looking after them, they are actually quite capable of looking after themselves and paying there own way, some of them even have jobs and own houses, they can drive cars and everything operating in amongst society, crazy right! If you truly feel the need to be a true gentleman and treat your woman right then save all that shit for when you actually have a girlfriend, but don't waste your effort and money on just another first date because chances are its only ever going to be just that, another first date and she's not the one your going to be with. Also ladies, how about you pay or at least offer to pay the whole entire bill on a date for once, would be a nice surprise for the man for a change and shows him that you enjoyed your first date together, also shows that you have your shit together and not just another bitch in a long string of bitches only looking for a free meal. If women done this more often then the man in their lives would be more likely to treat them to a nice evening out every now and then. It's kinda hard to eliminate sexism and have a gender equal world when most women out there are constantly happy to make themselves look the weaker sex. ... ok, rant over " Dear C I would refer you to my previous comments on this matter. | |||
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"An upbringing where i was taught to treat people of either sex with respect. Where politeness cost nothing and where giving is better than receiving. Its not about who pays it about old fashioed values. Its certainly nothing to do with sexual equality. I'll hold a door open for either sex." One would assume then that you always pay if you go out for dinner with a male friend? Since you were brought up to have respect? | |||
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"Yes i do. Well i offer." Going out for drinks with mates. You ok picking up the tab all night yeah? It’s ok your mates never buy a round of drinks? I’ll always offer to pay and I like treating people but if someone’s taking advantage I’m done. | |||
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