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Anyway whats your protest about, OP? xxx | |||
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"Those Mags are always whingeing about something, said the Black Cat, Sunderland supporter
Anyway whats your protest about, OP? xxx""What you got?" was Marlon Brando's answer to the same question in "The Wild One"  | |||
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"Those Mags are always whingeing about something, said the Black Cat, Sunderland supporter
Anyway whats your protest about, OP? xxx
"What you got?" was Marlon Brando's answer to the same question in "The Wild One" "Was gonna use that! But then remembered it was "What are you rebelling against." But then, I'm anal at the best of times. | |||
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"Phew,,,,, haha… I’ve read it all wrong again,,,,,, duh……. I thought where the OP used the word “motor’bi’cyclists” it was a secret code for hoards of leather clad bisexual motorcyclists to gather for an alternative riding event aimed at raising awareness to the pleasures of anal sex !!!!! Oh well, I ain’t got a motor bike anyway!!! "There's always one 
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" Oh well, I ain’t got a motor bike anyway!!!
There's always one
Mind in the gutter!! "Do you think they’d let me go, if I jam an ice-lollie stick against the spokes of the back wheel of my Raleigh Chopper bike, so that when I pedal really fast, it makes a noise like an engine ? | |||
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" Oh well, I ain’t got a motor bike anyway!!!
There's always one
Mind in the gutter!!
Do you think they’d let me go, if I jam an ice-lollie stick against the spokes of the back wheel of my Raleigh Chopper bike, so that when I pedal really fast, it makes a noise like an engine ?
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" You're not kidding yourself any more than half the bikers, so feel free to go along." Yeah, but I don’t know if I’ve got time before Sunday, to grow one of them uber gay moustaches like the leather guy from the village people…. I’d really hate to stand out among the crowd…
Oh....look, I'm only joking!!!! don't get ya Harley Fatboy's in twist.... ouch!!! was that your kickstart I just felt,, Or have I just scored !!!
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"Moustaches and Harley Fatboys? Wrong place, this is a MAG rally, you're looking for the Chartered Accountants day out." Hey, I'm not fussy, I’m up for any day out that involves butty fun….!. As long as it my butty on the receiving end….!. I guess accountants would probably have nice soft hands and clean fingernails too….!. Cuz I’ve seen the state some bikers hands get into, after working on their big ends,,,,, Filthy they were,,,, Filthy!!!  | |||
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"Nice soft hands and clean fingernails perhaps, but most of your time with them will be taken up with their risk assessment." Oh I see,,,,, that’s a bit of a bummer,,,,, I though they’d just work it out with a pencil if there was anything in the way | |||
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"The only upside is that your beau is ready dressed for any kind of impromptu YMCA singalong." Yup… and if he’s got a rubber on the end of his pencil… the jobs a good’en | |||
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" The average biker is more likely to have froth on his top lip from his last cappuccino than deposit his wrath on your ass. " Oh well,,,, I guess at least, I can always dream about receiving a really wicked rimming performed by a guy with a frothy top lip ….!. | |||
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"Why don't you two hire a tandem and go? Or get a room!! "I can't go.... as previously explained... there is just no way I could grow a suitable Moustache in time.... and I aint wearing one of the gay stick on ones.... Sigh,,,,,, | |||
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"And back to the original point, I believe my housemate is going, I was going as pillion, but think he's taking his wife instead, so I'll be there in spirit! " To reiterate, what is the protest about? | |||
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"The EU are trying to bring in a law that all work done on a bike, from changing a lightbulb, to changing the engine must be done by a qualified mechanic. They also want all motorcyclists to wear hi vis at all times whilst riding. " Thanks. The 1st part, no chance. 2nd part, it wouldn't surprise me. | |||
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"The EU are trying to bring in a law that all work done on a bike, from changing a lightbulb, to changing the engine must be done by a qualified mechanic. They also want all motorcyclists to wear hi vis at all times whilst riding. " Ahh... ok... I can see some value to the hi-vis point..... But it seems rather unfair that people can't maintain their own machines as long as it remains roadworthy!! | |||
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"Most riders I've spoken don't have a huge issue with the hi vis, but like myself think it would be better to make wearing proper gear a legal requirment. After all, you go skidding at 70mph across the tarmac, fat lot of good a hi vis over shorts and tshirt is gonna do. But the real issue is the work on bikes. Thats what has got most people upset." work on the bikes would be impossible to police, plus there are a million restriction of trade/freedom of movement type laws which would make it completely unenforceable - like if it was a requirement that only a qualified electrician could wire a plug etc. The high vis vest thing is probably more of a threat, who wants to look like that on their 'blade. But, the high vis vest is hard to attack as a bad idea. But then the R1 I was looking at last week with 175bhp at the back wheel is kinda hard to defend. Strom in a teacup, neither will ever happen. And, you make a good point re shorts'n'shirt. If they're serious about safety, hi vis aint the way to go, | |||
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"The EU are trying to bring in a law that all work done on a bike, from changing a lightbulb, to changing the engine must be done by a qualified mechanic. They also want all motorcyclists to wear hi vis at all times whilst riding. " Thats silly. Do you have to fill a form in and tell the eu your light bulb has gone out? Halfords (there are other retail outle.... hang on are there other Halford type shops?) would go out of business if it wasn't for the self fix-its and relationships all over the country will be breaking down with biker husbands in the house, instead of out playing with their mates in the garage, demanding that you turn Corries off..... | |||
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"The EU are trying to bring in a law that all work done on a bike, from changing a lightbulb, to changing the engine must be done by a qualified mechanic. They also want all motorcyclists to wear hi vis at all times whilst riding. Thats silly. Do you have to fill a form in and tell the eu your light bulb has gone out? Halfords (there are other retail outle.... hang on are there other Halford type shops?) would go out of business if it wasn't for the self fix-its and relationships all over the country will be breaking down with biker husbands in the house, instead of out playing with their mates in the garage, demanding that you turn Corries off....." An excellent point. A garage, toolbox and peace and frickin' quiet does more to save relationships in this country than any amount of 'new man' bollocks. | |||
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"From a mechanical side of things, maybe its not a bad thing for a bike to be maintained by a professional mechanic. But from another point of view, the large majority of people I know who ride bikes take a pride in keeping their machine road worthy. The Euro tossers ruined the bike test and wasted millions on a new test that is soon to be re-evaluated as the main reason for the test change had real relevance to our roads and road speed. So I say all bikers should at least put some kind of effort in to stand up for their rights. I no longer own a motorbike but wish all those involved success. " *No real relevance* it should have been. | |||
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"Most riders I've spoken don't have a huge issue with the hi vis, but like myself think it would be better to make wearing proper gear a legal requirment. After all, you go skidding at 70mph across the tarmac, fat lot of good a hi vis over shorts and tshirt is gonna do. But the real issue is the work on bikes. Thats what has got most people upset." I understand your point about how you’d rather enforce bikers too wear appropriate riding gear which obviously has te potential to save the rider from injury ,,,,, But compulsary Hi’vis has the potential to save other road users too…. So I'd rather go for that option and allow bikers to take responsibility for their own risks in choosing what to wear under it... | |||
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"@ FunkyFox. Can you let me know the reasoning behind the protest regards what bikers wear? Why don't the bikers want to wear hi-viz? What are their objections?" 1. Looking like a dick. 2. Erm 3. Nope, that's it. | |||
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"Don't matter what you wear... The car drivers still won't look... It's just another pick on the biker thing... Cali x " No... its not about picking on bikers, its about improving road safety for all road users,,,, | |||
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"Don't matter what you wear... The car drivers still won't look... It's just another pick on the biker thing... Cali x No... its not about picking on bikers, its about improving road safety for all road users,,,, " Teach people better road sense then.. I got knocked off because some stupid bint apparently didn't see my bike that would make dayglo clothes look dull... My leathers equally bright.. On learning to ride I had a high visibility vest and still got pulled out on 3 or more times.. Make cars be brighter too.. but the fact is people just don't look. Cali x | |||
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"Don't matter what you wear... The car drivers still won't look... It's just another pick on the biker thing... Cali x No... its not about picking on bikers, its about improving road safety for all road users,,,, Teach people better road sense then.. Make cars be brighter too.. but the fact is people just don't look. Cali x " Pedestrian are road users too…. some of them are little children with little understanding of how to judge speed and risk,,, and some pedestrians are very old, and react very slowly.... some are even hard of hearing and rely only on sight to keep them safe,,, etc etc etc........ I'm gobsmacked | |||
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"Don't matter what you wear... The car drivers still won't look... It's just another pick on the biker thing... Cali x No... its not about picking on bikers, its about improving road safety for all road users,,,, Teach people better road sense then.. Make cars be brighter too.. but the fact is people just don't look. Cali x Pedestrian are road users too…. some of them are little children with little understanding of how to judge speed and risk,,, and some pedestrians are very old, and react very slowly.... some are even hard of hearing and rely only on sight to keep them safe,,, etc etc etc........ I'm gobsmacked " So, cars should be dayglo too then? | |||
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"Wanna improve road safety? Ban muppets who wobble about the road on their pushbikes, towing their kid behind them in a trailer. (but they've got a wee flag and the trailer is dayglo, so it's "ok") Fucking lunacy." Amen! Thought it was just me thinking they were dangerous. Maybe as part of the car test there should be a day where all drivers should take a motor cycle CBT (compulsory basic training) to make them more aware of the dangers on the road. | |||
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" all drivers should take a motor cycle CBT (compulsory basic training) to make them more aware of the dangers on the road." Accident statistics would plummet overnight. | |||
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" So, cars should be dayglo too then?" Only if you think cars are as difficult to spot as motorbikes..... which kinda goes agaisnt the argument supporting car drivers don't notice bikers.... | |||
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" So, cars should be dayglo too then? Only if you think cars are as difficult to spot as motorbikes..... which kinda goes agaisnt the argument supporting car drivers don't notice bikers...." Car drivers don't notice bikers because they are cocooned in a safety cell with seatbelts, airbags, crumple zones, an ENCAP safety rating and music blaring from their stereo. They are completely removed from the world around them and feel a false sense of personal security. The argument is (and it's been scientifically proven)that if you, for example, put a spike in the middle of the steering wheel and removed seatbelts, car drivers would pay a shit-load more attention to what was happening, instead of trying to 'shuffle' their ipod to get David Gray on, whilst dialling their best mate on the phone. BANG! 'Oh, what was that...?' | |||
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"Wanna improve road safety? Ban muppets who wobble about the road on their pushbikes, towing their kid behind them in a trailer. (but they've got a wee flag and the trailer is dayglo, so it's "ok") Fucking lunacy. Amen! Thought it was just me thinking they were dangerous. Maybe as part of the car test there should be a day where all drivers should take a motor cycle CBT (compulsory basic training) to make them more aware of the dangers on the road." I have always thought that..
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" So, cars should be dayglo too then? Only if you think cars are as difficult to spot as motorbikes..... which kinda goes agaisnt the argument supporting car drivers don't notice bikers.... Car drivers don't notice bikers because they are cocooned in a safety cell with seatbelts, airbags, crumple zones, an ENCAP safety rating and music blaring from their stereo. They are completely removed from the world around them and feel a false sense of personal security. The argument is (and it's been scientifically proven)that if you, for example, put a spike in the middle of the steering wheel and removed seatbelts, car drivers would pay a shit-load more attention to what was happening, instead of trying to 'shuffle' their ipod to get David Gray on, whilst dialling their best mate on the phone. BANG! 'Oh, what was that...?'" My point was in reference to pedestrians safety? you asked about car colour!! | |||
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"There's a lot of sense in the old hot rod saying "Loud pipes saves lives!" " But not to a deaf person though.... | |||
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"There's a lot of sense in the old hot rod saying "Loud pipes saves lives!" But not to a deaf person though...." Yes to a deaf person - they'd feel the vibration from the noise. | |||
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"There's a lot of sense in the old hot rod saying "Loud pipes saves lives!" But not to a deaf person though.... Yes to a deaf person - they'd feel the vibration from the noise. "Yes silly me,,, of course they do!!! | |||
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"I`d quite happilly stick a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance up the arse of cunts responsible for the raft of measures and proposed directives coming from the EU and the other pleblicites here..strangling the life out of the biking community.. Loud pipes save lives... I have written letters to my local MP and others....reminding them of my freedom to build whatever the fuck I like...with the proviso that it is roadworthy....tho that appears to be the fucking problem....thats their ace in the hole....will I have advanced braking systems on my chopper...unlikely..will I have factory approved products on my completely original bike...NO !!... Guess the result.. I could spit nails...wankers.. " and breath  | |||
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"I`d quite happilly stick a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance up the arse of cunts responsible for the raft of measures and proposed directives coming from the EU and the other pleblicites here..strangling the life out of the biking community.. Loud pipes save lives... I have written letters to my local MP and others....reminding them of my freedom to build whatever the fuck I like...with the proviso that it is roadworthy....tho that appears to be the fucking problem....thats their ace in the hole....will I have advanced braking systems on my chopper...unlikely..will I have factory approved products on my completely original bike...NO !!... Guess the result.. I could spit nails...wankers.. " Good Lord I can't get past the first few pages - Mr Pirsig confuses me big style!! I dont like maths either though | |||
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"I`d quite happilly stick a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance up the arse of cunts responsible for the raft of measures and proposed directives coming from the EU and the other pleblicites here..strangling the life out of the biking community.. Loud pipes save lives... I have written letters to my local MP and others....reminding them of my freedom to build whatever the fuck I like...with the proviso that it is roadworthy....tho that appears to be the fucking problem....thats their ace in the hole....will I have advanced braking systems on my chopper...unlikely..will I have factory approved products on my completely original bike...NO !!... Guess the result.. I could spit nails...wankers.. I run a V8 yank with a straight through exhaust, people hear it before they see it so it does help with road safety in some respects. It doesn't matter if a car or bike has been built by a professional or a back yard enthusiast, it has to go through the SVA test. If it doesn't pass the regulations set for the test its not allowed on the road. " | |||
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"I`d quite happilly stick a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance up the arse of cunts responsible for the raft of measures and proposed directives coming from the EU and the other pleblicites here..strangling the life out of the biking community.. Loud pipes save lives... I have written letters to my local MP and others....reminding them of my freedom to build whatever the fuck I like...with the proviso that it is roadworthy....tho that appears to be the fucking problem....thats their ace in the hole....will I have advanced braking systems on my chopper...unlikely..will I have factory approved products on my completely original bike...NO !!... Guess the result.. I could spit nails...wankers.. Good Lord I can't get past the first few pages - Mr Pirsig confuses me big style!! I dont like maths either though "haha..yeah tis a handful...the book that is ...not my chopper %* | |||
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"I`d quite happilly stick a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance up the arse of cunts responsible for the raft of measures and proposed directives coming from the EU and the other pleblicites here..strangling the life out of the biking community.. Loud pipes save lives... I have written letters to my local MP and others....reminding them of my freedom to build whatever the fuck I like...with the proviso that it is roadworthy....tho that appears to be the fucking problem....thats their ace in the hole....will I have advanced braking systems on my chopper...unlikely..will I have factory approved products on my completely original bike...NO !!... Guess the result.. I could spit nails...wankers.. Good Lord I can't get past the first few pages - Mr Pirsig confuses me big style!! I dont like maths either though
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"I`d quite happilly stick a copy of Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance up the arse of cunts responsible for the raft of measures and proposed directives coming from the EU and the other pleblicites here..strangling the life out of the biking community.. Loud pipes save lives... I have written letters to my local MP and others....reminding them of my freedom to build whatever the fuck I like...with the proviso that it is roadworthy....tho that appears to be the fucking problem....thats their ace in the hole....will I have advanced braking systems on my chopper...unlikely..will I have factory approved products on my completely original bike...NO !!... Guess the result.. I could spit nails...wankers.. " Me too, I'm three quarters the way through building a Harley bobber. As an old school biker, who's never sacrificed looks for comfort, all these bullshit measures grip my spuds. No one should be forced to wear anything they don't want to on a bike. It should be down to the rider, after all, they're the only one taking the risk. Unlike mountain/rock climbers, pot-holers/cavers, and loonies who go hiking over the Cairngorms in snow storms who risk other peoples lives and cost a fortune to rescue when they get in the shit. The EU also want anything you fit onto your bike to be direct from the bikes factory, not patern/after market, even though those parts are often superior and cheaper than factory items. It'll put thousands of spares manufacturers out of business too. As if the EU haven't more important things to sort out, they need to get their priorities sorted and us bikers need to tell them to FUCK OFF!  R | |||
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"From what I have read regarding these new EU motorcycle 'laws'....there is a lot of misinformation and rumour mongering about these supposed proposals, it would seem that there is an element of Chinese whispers involved here and very little of what has been alleged to be proposed actually exists. Excerpts from an E Mail from within the EU committee discussing the matter... “The amendments tabled by MEPs which are outside the scope of the Commission’s proposal constitute political recommendations which are very unlikely to feature in the adopted text. If however there is majority support for any of these ideas, the amendments concerned can only feature in Recitals to the Regulation which means they have no legal effect”. “Even if these recommendations make it through the Committee stage, which I doubt, both Council and Commission would resist them featuring in the final text of the Regulation as they have no corresponding Article. The amendments concerned relate to driver/rider training, side visibility reflectors, roadside random spot-checks, technical examinations of motorbikes and liabilities in accident situations, and the harmonisation of driver licence schemes”. “In the context of this draft Regulation, we are simply not engaged in a discussion on national debates concerning the mandating of high visibility jackets for riders, the banning of older motorcycles from urban areas, nor are we discussing EU funded research on throttle and speed control schemes. These are all considerations which are completely outside the scope of this legislative proposal. Furthermore, picking up on other concerns constituents have expressed, there are no proposals on the table about mandating the sealing of the power train from the air box or relating to setting a diameter and aspect ratio for the rear tyre”. So a lot of hearsay that often blows EU proposals up out of all proportion.... " the quote you used jane is from an email sent the biker guide, a website supplying a balanced view of news and events affecting motorcyclists. the bikerguide e-mailed various politicians involved in the debate and they recieved a reply from a malcom harbour, who is chairman of the imco committee, and shadow rapporteur for ecr. imco is the committee on internal market and consumer protection. whose job includes overseeing the free movement of goods including the harmonisation of technical standards.and the promotion and protection of the economic interests of consumers. neither of which has anything whatsover to do with safety, but the harmonisation of technical standards fits in nicely with only using parts supplied by the original manufacturer. the ecr is the european conservatives and reformists group. so he is a designated spokesman for a group who want to reform the eu to make it more accountable, transparent and responsive to the people it serves. again no interest whatsover in safety. so in essence the e-mail is to a news website from a guy who has no idea if the measures being discussed will help to save lives or indeed have any positive effect on the safety of the people it effects. | |||
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"Most riders I've spoken don't have a huge issue with the hi vis, but like myself think it would be better to make wearing proper gear a legal requirment. After all, you go skidding at 70mph across the tarmac, fat lot of good a hi vis over shorts and tshirt is gonna do. But the real issue is the work on bikes. Thats what has got most people upset. I understand your point about how you’d rather enforce bikers too wear appropriate riding gear which obviously has te potential to save the rider from injury ,,,,, But compulsary Hi’vis has the potential to save other road users too…. So I'd rather go for that option and allow bikers to take responsibility for their own risks in choosing what to wear under it..." Do you ever think all these regulations are really about forcing people to pay over the odds for things? What is the actual frequency / real risk from not wearing a vis? Go to Greece and Spain and see how many people don't even bother with a helmet. It's a con to get us to pay more money out. | |||
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"The scariest thing about it is that as soon as the EU shout "SHIT!" Britain jumps on the shovel. While other countries have a "lets see how it goes down elsewhere" attitude to new EU legislations, Britain starts putting it into practice while the print is still wet, we're that eager to comply with anything the EU throw at us. I'd be interested to see where the famous EU Human Rights bill stands as far as Bikers rights are concerned. With any luck they'll cancel out their own legislation. R"There isn't any legislation that's the point....it's a million miles away from any form of legislation, it just suits some groups amongst bikers to scare their numbers into believing it's about to come into law.... Anyone remember the straight bananas? The infamous EU income tax? It's important to understand how Brussels works, there are at any given time hundreds upon hundreds of policy groups vying to impose their ideas on other MEP's and advisory groups....very little ever makes it into committee stage let alone legislation. They talk a lot in Brussels....and what makes it worse is that much of it gets blown out of all proportion. | |||
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"Not going anymore as the bike was stolen today" Ah...shit...I know that feeling.... Don`t let the cunts drag yer down chap... | |||
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"Not going anymore as the bike was stolen today" Thieving bastards! Could you ride pillion with anyone? | |||
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