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"So there's talk of these models losing their income from being an F1 grid girl. Do you think its a progressive move away from patriarchal traditions? Or a sad end to female involvement in the sport?" I'm really pleased. I find it pretty offputting and degrading when the grid girls come on the telly. And I know a F1 mechanic who says that she always feels like she's not taken very seriously because you mostly see women at F1 being used for their T&A. So hopefully this will very much encourage more women into the sport at all levels, because they won't feel like they're only there as decoration. | |||
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"So there's talk of these models losing their income from being an F1 grid girl. Do you think its a progressive move away from patriarchal traditions? Or a sad end to female involvement in the sport?" Only if they take them away from boxing and wrestling matches too I think the recent fiasco with ATP tennis was enough to shame face the sport | |||
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"So there's talk of these models losing their income from being an F1 grid girl. Do you think its a progressive move away from patriarchal traditions? Or a sad end to female involvement in the sport?" One of my very good (female) friends is in the pit crew for McLaren & before that was at Ferrari in a similar role. There are a surprisingly high number of women who actually work in the F1 paddock, covering a range of different roles & from what my friend tells me, there’s surprisingly very little sexism as they are all well respected in their fields. It’s not really a job you can get away with going if you aren’t totally focussed & know your stuff. As they all travel to the same destinations, it’s a fairly close community. The models are usually specific to the region, so aren’t considered to be a part of the F1 community in the same way. They’re certainly not involved in the sport, other than for decorative purposes so I’m not sure it really makes a practical difference. That said, don’t see what harm they do either. Rich men have always attracted pretty women. It’s the way the world works!! | |||
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"I have no objection to hot female models at sporting events, the issue could be easily solved by also having some fit blokes in tight trousers ( or better still lycra) at the events also XXX" Good point well made | |||
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"So there's talk of these models losing their income from being an F1 grid girl. Do you think its a progressive move away from patriarchal traditions? Or a sad end to female involvement in the sport?" If that happened eventually Darts and Boxing would follow by getting rid of walk on and ring girls. Would it reach cheerleading eventually? I don't think so as it's inclusive but 99% Female. | |||
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"So there's talk of these models losing their income from being an F1 grid girl. Do you think its a progressive move away from patriarchal traditions? Or a sad end to female involvement in the sport?" That’s my next career move scuppered. Damnit. | |||
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"I’m not sure it’s fair to say it’s ending female involvement in the sport. There are increasing numbers of women in high positions in the sport,- which is needed. The sport should be full of people based on talent, irrespective of gender, but women should have exactly the same chance as men. There is no difference simply because of the M or F Tick Box on the application form. As for grid girls. Well,- I’m for the promotional advertising, if that’s what they’re for, but gratuitous dressing of them, in less and less Lycra, is not exactly espousing equality" If it's about 'promotional advertising', wouldn't a person (male or female) in smart trousers and a branded polo shirt achieve the same thing while holding the grid number? | |||
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"I’m not sure it’s fair to say it’s ending female involvement in the sport. There are increasing numbers of women in high positions in the sport,- which is needed. The sport should be full of people based on talent, irrespective of gender, but women should have exactly the same chance as men. There is no difference simply because of the M or F Tick Box on the application form. As for grid girls. Well,- I’m for the promotional advertising, if that’s what they’re for, but gratuitous dressing of them, in less and less Lycra, is not exactly espousing equality If it's about 'promotional advertising', wouldn't a person (male or female) in smart trousers and a branded polo shirt achieve the same thing while holding the grid number?" Yes. That’s exactly my point. I don’t mind the advertising on the grid, but it shouldn’t be based about sexualising one gender. Either could do it, dressed appropriately. I know sex sells, but it shouldn’t be so blatant and degrading. It’s clearly promotional models that are being paid to stand there, because they look good. | |||
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"Is that the only involvement women have in the sport? " They do the warm up games in tennis tournaments to. | |||
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"Is that the only involvement women have in the sport? They do the warm up games in tennis tournaments to. " Ah yes.... Such great public service | |||
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"Is that the only involvement women have in the sport? They do the warm up games in tennis tournaments to. Ah yes.... Such great public service " Only short games though, not real ones. | |||
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"Is that the only involvement women have in the sport? They do the warm up games in tennis tournaments to. Ah yes.... Such great public service Only short games though, not real ones. " Don't want to tire them out.... They're serving afternoon tea afterwards | |||
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"Not heard any news about pit lane girls relative to the OP. No doubt the take offence, selective morals, live your life as we instruct & victim-hood brigade will be behind it somewhere. As for the F1 girls, it's their life, it's their existence, so what they do, how they earn is up to them. At the present time I done believe they're doing anything illegal or illegitimate and neither are their employers so " They're probably models from that country, rather than full time "F1 girls". | |||
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"Not heard any news about pit lane girls relative to the OP. No doubt the take offence, selective morals, live your life as we instruct & victim-hood brigade will be behind it somewhere. As for the F1 girls, it's their life, it's their existence, so what they do, how they earn is up to them. At the present time I done believe they're doing anything illegal or illegitimate and neither are their employers so " 'I don't know anything about this but I'll assume it's the PC gone mad brigade!' In reality, no one is forcing F1 to do anything. It has nothing to do with things being illegal. F1 are reviewing how they want to present their product. That's it. | |||
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"Is that the only involvement women have in the sport? " Besides the occasional deputy team principal and the like, lol | |||
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"There must be some washing up that needs doing. " And some snacks to be made for the teams. | |||
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"Not heard any news about pit lane girls relative to the OP. No doubt the take offence, selective morals, live your life as we instruct & victim-hood brigade will be behind it somewhere. As for the F1 girls, it's their life, it's their existence, so what they do, how they earn is up to them. At the present time I done believe they're doing anything illegal or illegitimate and neither are their employers so They're probably models from that country, rather than full time "F1 girls"." They are. Grid girls are usually sourced by the circuit management locally | |||
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"There must be some washing up that needs doing. And some snacks to be made for the teams." Well someone's gotta do it, the men will be doing the engineering and driving obviously! | |||
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