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By *aptain V OP   Man
over a year ago

Birstall, Leicester

Head on the news yesterday women should be given incentives to breast feed their babies.

Should women be given incentives to breast feed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, they should be given the freedom of choice without pressure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thr problem with breastfeeding is this!!!

It's sold as such a natural thing but what nobody tells you is its bloody hard work! !!!

My son didn't want to feed at all and chewed me black and blue. After 10 days of agony I capitulated and bottle fed but was made to feel so guilty by friends who were wapping their baps out the minute their babies went waaa.

The guilt and shame was so bad I ended up having postnatal depression and the inability to feed was a large part of that.

I think it should be explained as an option and more support given to begin and troubleshoot if problems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tried expressing, never even tried breast feeding as I wanted dad to do his share of feeds.

Milk never came in, I could pump for an hour straight until I was drawing blood, and on my best day I got 30ml in an hour from both boobs combined. I persisted for 3 weeks and when it became obvious it wasn't going to happen, we went fully to formula feeding.

I feel no guilt. My child was fed, and is thriving. While breast may be best, it's not the be all to end all. As long as baby is fed, then don't ever feel bad for whatever way you have to do it.

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By *rHornyGentMan
over a year ago

South London


"I tried expressing, never even tried breast feeding as I wanted dad to do his share of feeds.

Milk never came in, I could pump for an hour straight until I was drawing blood, and on my best day I got 30ml in an hour from both boobs combined. I persisted for 3 weeks and when it became obvious it wasn't going to happen, we went fully to formula feeding.

I feel no guilt. My child was fed, and is thriving. While breast may be best, it's not the be all to end all. As long as baby is fed, then don't ever feel bad for whatever way you have to do it. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My milk also never came in I had to bottle feed both of my sons. They were very healthy babies. Luckily the nurses didn't give me hell they supported me. Not everybody can breast feed and shouldn't be frowned upon.

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

I really don't like the idea.

Everyone knows that breast feeding is the best thing for a baby, after all that's what women have breasts for. The problem is not everyone can breastfeed.

Women who want to breastfeed and can't already feel like shit because of the pro-breastfeeding propaganda out there. They are made to feel inadequate and in some instances like they are a bad mother. Adding to this the fact they will miss out on a financial bonus will make them feel even worse.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

I fed all my babies, my incentive.... Being lazy!

Why go through all that scrubbing bottles, sterilising bottles, rinsing bottles, boiling the kettle, letting it cool, scooping formula, storing the bottles, if going out, having to keep cool, then find somewhere to get them warmed up.

Just plonk the bub on ya boobs, job done!

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

I never breast fed any of my four... not because I couldn't but because I didn't want to. End of. If anyone had attempted to lecture me on it they'd have been rewarded with a firm 'mind your own business'.

My girls were all healthy babies and children and three of the four are married with children of their own so it appears my terrible parenting didn't do them any harm. I'm not anti breast feeding... I'm pro non-judgemental CHOICE.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woman should feed they're babies whatever way they fucking wish to! A lot more to breast feeding than just plonking the baby on it.. tongue ties in babies, nipples not shaped to allow it, painful etc etc. My daughters mother couldn't get the baby to latch, we even went back to hospital to spend the night with midwives to help get a good routine established. Eventually it was proving too stressful for all involved so she expressed and fed from a bottle and felt bad for it. It's just the same milk as the "breast is best"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I may have milk floats but my boobies never filled with milk not sure if it was having two c sections but bottle fed both my girls and they thrived x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I fed all my babies, my incentive.... Being lazy!

Why go through all that scrubbing bottles, sterilising bottles, rinsing bottles, boiling the kettle, letting it cool, scooping formula, storing the bottles, if going out, having to keep cool, then find somewhere to get them warmed up.

Just plonk the bub on ya boobs, job done! "

Mine too. No nonsense in the middle of the night, barely need to open an eye before they're scooped up and latched on

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Had no desire to breastfeed, bottles from the start. Both happy and healthy.

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston

Informed choice is what I would like mothers to have. Current research suggests ‘breast is best’, however I feel the research is flawed. Flawed research guilting women into making choices is wrong. Yes breast milk contains everything a baby needs, but the various health benefits and the impact on intelligence that research suggests is misleading. This is primarily due to the demographic of women who breastfeed and equally those who don’t. Happy Mums make happy babies therefore make a decision that ultimately will make you both happy. There are pros and cons with both methods x

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

I fed my first child till she was two and my second until till he was one.

My incentive was it was the best for them and me and I couldn't be arsed to sterilise bottle ect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My boobs are broken, well not strictly true, big boob is a lazy bitch who never pulled her weight leaving little boob (and owner) sore and feeling a failure.

Big boob has now been sent to Coventry and doesnt get played with very often. Maybe an incentive would have appealed to her selfish nature

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By *wisted2000Woman
over a year ago

under my rock cleethorpes

I spent the first 8 weeks of being a new mother feeling inadequate because I was struggling to breastfeed, eventually a friend caught me sobbing one day and turned up with bottles and powered milk, at the end of the day you do what works for you and your baby and stuff what others think, it’s your body and your child, I learned that the hard way, others should’t have to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wondering if this is just another shaming thread dressed up in a pseudo medical or lifestyle supposed requirements on how mothers should behave.

There are occasions where breast feeding is impossible or where personal choice dictates otherwise and to intimate that one person's choice is inferior to another's seems like an exercise in guilt tripping.

I'm just a mere guy and maybe it's not my place to comment but isn't up to each mother or parent to determine what is best in their situation rather than having prespective demands on how they parent imposed on them by others who do not know an individuals circumstances?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I fed all my babies, my incentive.... Being lazy!

Why go through all that scrubbing bottles, sterilising bottles, rinsing bottles, boiling the kettle, letting it cool, scooping formula, storing the bottles, if going out, having to keep cool, then find somewhere to get them warmed up.

Just plonk the bub on ya boobs, job done! "

Me too! Perfected the art of sleeping upright in bed with one eye open during the night feeds. Also saved myself a fortune!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Head on the news yesterday women should be given incentives to breast feed their babies.

Should women be given incentives to breast feed?"

Did they give reasons? What were the incentives, how long would they expect a woman to breast feed, how would they prove that they were breast feeding?

Wouldn't the incentives just go to women who would have breast fed anyway, why should women who find it impossible miss out?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Wondering if this is just another shaming thread dressed up in a pseudo medical or lifestyle supposed requirements on how mothers should behave.

There are occasions where breast feeding is impossible or where personal choice dictates otherwise and to intimate that one person's choice is inferior to another's seems like an exercise in guilt tripping.

I'm just a mere guy and maybe it's not my place to comment but isn't up to each mother or parent to determine what is best in their situation rather than having prespective demands on how they parent imposed on them by others who do not know an individuals circumstances? "

New mothers won't win either way. I was criticised for breast feeding too long.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I may have milk floats but my boobies never filled with milk not sure if it was having two c sections but bottle fed both my girls and they thrived x"

It can be more difficult following a c-section. Particularly if this is done a little earlier than due date (elective often is).

The actual act of childbirth triggers the release of further hormones which promote the production of milk etc.

As more and more women have c-sections the “problem” is getting more prevalent.

(Information care of my daughter Dr Judith)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Head on the news yesterday women should be given incentives to breast feed their babies.

Should women be given incentives to breast feed?

Did they give reasons? What were the incentives, how long would they expect a woman to breast feed, how would they prove that they were breast feeding?

Wouldn't the incentives just go to women who would have breast fed anyway, why should women who find it impossible miss out?"

Not a huge incentive. On news last night it was a total of £200. £40 of shopping vouchers at 2 days, 2weeks, 1 month, 2 months and 6 months....all have to be signed off by midwife so you don’t just cheat/lie...

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By *arry WindsorMan
over a year ago

Heaton Park Manchester


"I may have milk floats but my boobies never filled with milk not sure if it was having two c sections but bottle fed both my girls and they thrived x

It can be more difficult following a c-section. Particularly if this is done a little earlier than due date (elective often is).

The actual act of childbirth triggers the release of further hormones which promote the production of milk etc.

As more and more women have c-sections the “problem” is getting more prevalent.

(Information care of my daughter Dr Judith)"

Thank you (and to Dr Judith) for that snippet of information.

I was pondering if that might be the case after reading an earlier post.

A friend of mine had 3 children by C section and reported that she also couldn't easily breastfeed despite having 38h breasts. So not related to size.

Would appear to be down to body chemistry again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I really don't like the idea.

Everyone knows that breast feeding is the best thing for a baby, after all that's what women have breasts for. The problem is not everyone can breastfeed.

Women who want to breastfeed and can't already feel like shit because of the pro-breastfeeding propaganda out there. They are made to feel inadequate and in some instances like they are a bad mother. Adding to this the fact they will miss out on a financial bonus will make them feel even worse."

Absolutely this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I fed my first child till she was two and my second until till he was one.

My incentive was it was the best for them and me and I couldn't be arsed to sterilise bottle ect.

"

Best incentive ever!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

When our second child was born we had the best health visitor ever. She walked into the carnage that is a post natal household to find the older kid on the settee still in its pyjamas holding the new born and me looking like four penn'orth of gawd help us and said "excellent mother!". That is the kind of incentive new mother's need.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not “incentive” that’s needed but help and support. I bf my twins for a year but had little support from professionals etc. I trained as a bf peer support volunteer when my boys were a bit older and also for Tamba. There are now lots of outlets to get that extra support and help which there wasn’t years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Head on the news yesterday women should be given incentives to breast feed their babies.

Should women be given incentives to breast feed?"

No.

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Breast fed all of mine. Think I was a bit naive tho cos never invisaged any problems. Luckily I didn't have any but have had friends who struggled. Don't believe pressure should be put on new mums tho.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

As with lots of things there are different sides to it.

There will be some who also need convincing not to drink and smoke through pregnancy, and they will be the ones who can't be arsed to breast feed (or express).

Then are those, as people who are describing above, who really want to, but physically cannot do it for one reason or another.

I would suggest the first bunch might be more inclined to breast feed if they are incentivized. But it's a sad situation if the prime incentive is cash instead of just doing best for their baby.

MrB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I tried expressing, never even tried breast feeding as I wanted dad to do his share of feeds.

Milk never came in, I could pump for an hour straight until I was drawing blood, and on my best day I got 30ml in an hour from both boobs combined. I persisted for 3 weeks and when it became obvious it wasn't going to happen, we went fully to formula feeding.

I feel no guilt. My child was fed, and is thriving. While breast may be best, it's not the be all to end all. As long as baby is fed, then don't ever feel bad for whatever way you have to do it. "

'they' tell you to establish breastfeeding before expressing as it's 'easier'. It's not.... It's hard work whatever you do. I managed 5 months of feeding my youngest but he was topped up with formula as I don't produce/let down my milk.

Breast is best is what they like to beat into you... I'm more for fed is best. As long as mum and baby are happy, thriving, sleeping etc, then you're doing your best and anyone who tells you different can simply piss off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Breast is best is what they like to beat into you... I'm more for fed is best. As long as mum and baby are happy, thriving, sleeping etc, then you're doing your best and anyone who tells you different can simply piss off."

Couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had 3 c-sections and breastfed easily, I breastfed because I thought it was best for my children as well as easy, bottle feeding just looks hard work.

However, I do think that those who are unable to breastfeed don't need anymore stigmatising for things out of their control.

Ginger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pressure and guilt put on women to breastfeed is shocking.

Her breastfed our first, I'm sure our little one benefited from it but the negative effect on Her was not worth it. She carried on with it because of peer pressure despite the mental and physical strain it was putting on her. Our second was breastfed until Her felt she had to stop which was a month.

Some women can't physically breastfeed for medical reasons, this incentive is going make a lot of women feel terrible. Not for loss of money, but another slap in the face for not breastfeeding.

When I hear the phrase "breast is best" is gets right on my tits as I've seen what the pressure can do to one of the most maternal women I know.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no male feminist but witnessing a women go through pregnancy and child birth made me a lot more aware and respecting of what the fairer sex go through.

Him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I had my first I was all set to breastfeed until my ex mother in law said ‘what really? Your gonna have him hanging off your tit?’ I tried but all I had was her words banging in my head, so I decided to bottle feed, always something I regret and because I didn’t with him I didn’t with the other two (we’ve always worked like that, if one doesn’t the other two doesn’t). Really wish I hadn’t though, my kids thrived though regardless of how they were fed.

Geeky x

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

Breast is best?

No! A happy, healthy mum feeding her child by whatever method she chooses is best!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Breast is best?

No! A happy, healthy mum feeding her child by whatever method she chooses is best!"

Never a truer word written.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Breast is best?

No! A happy, healthy mum feeding her child by whatever method she chooses is best!"

I think that's the way we're intending to fly when the time comes.

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

Offering cash incentives doesn't encourage breastfeeding for the right reasons.

And how do you even prove that a woman is breastfeeding?

The money would be better spent on training and support.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Breast is best?

No! A happy, healthy mum feeding her child by whatever method she chooses is best!"

Great soundbite, but the research proves breast is indeed best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I never breast fed any of my four... not because I couldn't but because I didn't want to. End of. If anyone had attempted to lecture me on it they'd have been rewarded with a firm 'mind your own business'.

My girls were all healthy babies and children and three of the four are married with children of their own so it appears my terrible parenting didn't do them any harm. I'm not anti breast feeding... I'm pro non-judgemental CHOICE. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Breast is best?

No! A happy, healthy mum feeding her child by whatever method she chooses is best!

Great soundbite, but the research proves breast is indeed best. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tried breast feeding my son but I just couldn't produce enough to keep him satisfied. I eventually gave in after spending 4 hrs 1 night swapping him from one to the other I was just do exhausted I said to hubby go make him a bottle. I continued to try with him for the best part of a week I also tried to express but just couldn't. I felt awful, never really got any support from anyone and only say my hv twice in his first 3 yrs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Breast is best?

No! A happy, healthy mum feeding her child by whatever method she chooses is best!

Great soundbite, but the research proves breast is indeed best. "

Yes ...Physically, emotionally, mentally and nourishment wise on the babies side.... But believe me, it's not just about the baby, if the mum is having a really tough time, baby isn't getting enough, stressing, making herself ill, is it REALLY the best you can do for your child?? I'd rather have the baby fed and loved than struggle to feed and bond due to the enormous pressure of it all.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Breast is best?

No! A happy, healthy mum feeding her child by whatever method she chooses is best!

Great soundbite, but the research proves breast is indeed best.

Yes ...Physically, emotionally, mentally and nourishment wise on the babies side.... But believe me, it's not just about the baby, if the mum is having a really tough time, baby isn't getting enough, stressing, making herself ill, is it REALLY the best you can do for your child?? I'd rather have the baby fed and loved than struggle to feed and bond due to the enormous pressure of it all."

Yes, breast feeding is best. But so what? Working out 5 times a day and eating organic veg is best for me, but I'm a lazy McMuncher. We don't always do what's best for ourselves, or for our kids. So what? Most of them turn out pretty normal.

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