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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The destruction of our oceans by mankind's negligence and ignorance is utterly devastating.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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I was gonna put a similar thread here today too . But i though some people are sick of me banging on about animals all the time . It is disgraceful what we are doing but I doubt much will be done .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A global population culling disaster would do the trick nicely.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

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"A global population culling disaster would do the trick nicely.

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Believe it or not it has been discussed . Look up Agenda 23

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

It really makes you sit up and realise actually how bad it stretches when you see it thousands of miles away. When bear gryls. Ran the island show you could see the stuff that got washed up. But what it’s doing to the animals is painful to watch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The destruction of our oceans by mankind's negligence and ignorance is utterly devastating. "

Agreed, however when mankind and money are involved then the chances of a positive outcome for the planet diminish greatly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A global population culling disaster would do the trick nicely.

Probably not as much as you'd think. Unless you specifically targeted those doing the majority of the damage.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

At least the Beeb offered some hope. That Caribbean guy saving the turtles should be an inspiration to us all that one person can make a difference !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The destruction of our oceans by mankind's negligence and ignorance is utterly devastating. "
oooooooo I know

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

I settled down to enjoy this amazing programme last night and came away feeling thoroughly depressed. Humans really are a cancer on the face of the planet.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

But how much of this is programme exaggerated to peddle an agenda?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"But how much of this is programme exaggerated to peddle an agenda?"

when they've got scientists showing that even in the depths of the Marianas trench there are part of the food chain with micro beads inside them its not an exaggeration to say we need to seriously as a species address it..

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Plan our survival of the changes.

Should we stop asians pumping chemicals up into the upper atmosphere that are causing holes? Yes

Should we stop dumping pollutants like plastic in the sea? Yes

Beyond that, the only question is, if we are speeding global warming up or not, and its a pointless question. We can not lock climate in place so we need to plan to survive its change.

If an animal will die due to the world being a few degrees hotter, then thats sad for the animal but oh well. We are animals too and we need to make sure we can survive it.

Blue planet clearly states that coral reefs are important for bio diversity for example, but they clearly state that the mechanisms that support most life in the sea will keep working through the heating.

You do know the reefs took over as other life died due to it getting too cold? and they will likely return?

I mean people said that cows bred to provide meat for people were causing all the pollution. We now know that if everyone in the US turned vegan global warming would speed up.

They say cutting down the rain forest causes global warming, but its impact has been measured as minute, and grassland vanishing causes more problems.

We should move to green power, and less pollutants, not to lock the world in its current climate, but to insure we can survive forever. Thats about it.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

But we're not going to do any of this are we anytime soon?

And you can get the right experts to say anything.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But we're not going to do any of this are we anytime soon?

And you can get the right experts to say anything."
As it's not going to effect us fuck it let's just do what we want right now and screw who comes next..thank you Mr Trump for being so insightful.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Well that Kim bastard could make a start by not dropping bombs on Japanese fish for starters.

Then we could start cracking down on beach goers who leave their trash behind at the end of the day.

4 shipping containers (on average) fall off ships each week.

Shouldn't have to but put a reward for handing in plastic bottles to be recycled like we used to with glass ones.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"Well that Kim bastard could make a start by not dropping bombs on Japanese fish for starters.

Then we could start cracking down on beach goers who leave their trash behind at the end of the day.

4 shipping containers (on average) fall off ships each week.

Shouldn't have to but put a reward for handing in plastic bottles to be recycled like we used to with glass ones."

Exactly, and even that is hardly going to make any difference.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

It's just the standard green lecture programme on the standard left-wing, climate change obsessed BBC.

The same organisation that sends weather reporters half way across the country to stand outside to present the weather, because that is nice and green isn't it.

And it's easy to come on here and virtue signal about sorting it all out, which is what most of the posters are doing, and to insult me by calling me Trump.

And what are these people going to do? Turn up the heat, as it is freezing cold today. Drive their nice new car to the shops and buy all those things for Xmas that have come all the way from China in container ships. Remembering that as soon as Xmas is over they will need to book their holiday to get some winter sunshine in the Caribbean.

And when they get there, they will go to one of those places where they can swim with dolphins. And before they can do that, they will get to watch another environmental film, with the same message as Blue Planet 2.

And there is not a hint of irony in the fact that most of the customers come via cruise ship, and there is a timeshare presentation on the way out!

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Well that Kim bastard could make a start by not dropping bombs on Japanese fish for starters.

Then we could start cracking down on beach goers who leave their trash behind at the end of the day.

4 shipping containers (on average) fall off ships each week.

Shouldn't have to but put a reward for handing in plastic bottles to be recycled like we used to with glass ones.

Exactly, and even that is hardly going to make any difference."

Shouldn't have to do fuck all but the sad state off us is we do. Same goes for land animals we seem to be intent on wiping out.

I still think though with all these boats chucking shit into the oceans, leaking stuff, the sewage, other factors it's not just about water bottles, fish and trip trays and carrier bags.

Too many humans with no respect whatsoever in all parts of the world

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"I settled down to enjoy this amazing programme last night and came away feeling thoroughly depressed. Humans really are a cancer on the face of the planet."

Yeah, didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's just the standard green lecture programme on the standard left-wing, climate change obsessed BBC.

The same organisation that sends weather reporters half way across the country to stand outside to present the weather, because that is nice and green isn't it.

And it's easy to come on here and virtue signal about sorting it all out, which is what most of the posters are doing, and to insult me by calling me Trump.

And there is not a hint of irony in the fact that most of the customers come via cruise ship, and there is a timeshare presentation on the way out!

what has left or right wing got to do with polluting the oceans?

Anyone who thinks that continuously dumping plastic & chemicals into the oceans that we eat from is okay, is simply plain stupid!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"But how much of this is programme exaggerated to peddle an agenda?"

I think, if anything, the show didn't really claim enough about the damage that we're causing - possibly because the programme is sold to many countries, including the USA, where such messages are less welcome.

There is masses of solid research evidence upon the hugely damaging effects that humans are inflicting upon the planet, including the oceans and fellow species. The episode seemed to offer some thought provoking insights on the damage plus mitigation strategies, as well as positive uplifting stories of how some people are making real contributions.

It's heartbreaking the severe harm that's being done to our beautiful planet.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

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Too many humans with no respect whatsoever in all parts of the world "

You could have just let it at too many humans...

Some are worse than others but with the best will in the world every single human on the planet (except possible a very few very very isolated subsistant living tribes) is contributing to this upcoming disaster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But how much of this is programme exaggerated to peddle an agenda?

It's heartbreaking the severe harm that's being done to our beautiful planet. "

What really gets me is that this plastic problem was known about & shown in multiple documentaries more than a decade ago yet nothing has been done about it, - it's just been allowed to get much worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not even just the massive contamination caused by plastics.

Temperature rises aren't killing the marine life, it's the rising acidity levels caused be excessive co2 and toxins released from the plastic poison.

A huge amount of our oxygen comes from photosynthesis from marine plankton and all other marine plant life. We kill those off, we are officially fucked.

Our natural carbon cycle is already unbalanced, we won't see any improvement in our life time. Or we can do now us start implementing changed to try and redress the balance for the sake of future generations.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

Try diving in Indonesia if you don't think theres a problem- the seas there are a shit tip in places

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

"Try diving in Indonesia if you don't think theres a problem- the seas there are a shit tip in places

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you can try and educate the people who do this damage, but do they really want to know where ever it is in the world thats the sad thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try diving in Indonesia if you don't think theres a problem- the seas there are a shit tip in places

you can try and educate the people who do this damage, but do they really want to know where ever it is in the world thats the sad thing."

tourists are partly responsible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try diving in Indonesia if you don't think theres a problem- the seas there are a shit tip in places

there was a recent documentary from the Indian subcontinent on the vast rubbish dumps on beaches, - the presenter was astonished to learn that it was the tide that dumped it there.

We're all fckn gross!

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I live on the coast. 6 miles across the sea we have a nuke power plant.

4 miles to the right is a coal power plant.

In my town is a big chemical plant.

It's a cold morning, it's crisp and frosty, the sun is low and bright, would make for a beautiful winter scene.

That is, if it wasn't for the three different kind of smoke/vapours lifting into the air this morning.

Never mind the other side of the world, this is my door step.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Try diving in Indonesia if you don't think theres a problem- the seas there are a shit tip in places

you can try and educate the people who do this damage, but do they really want to know where ever it is in the world thats the sad thing."
What you say is spot on. As the less developed countries don't have recycling or the means of proper waste disposal they just dump crap anywhere . They can't afford proper disposal schemes and there's half the problem . I say only half as most of the developed nations ( including us) do have the means but don't give a shit !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I live on the coast. 6 miles across the sea we have a nuke power plant.

4 miles to the right is a coal power plant.

In my town is a big chemical plant.

It's a cold morning, it's crisp and frosty, the sun is low and bright, would make for a beautiful winter scene.

That is, if it wasn't for the three different kind of smoke/vapours lifting into the air this morning.

Never mind the other side of the world, this is my door step."

perhaps that's exactly what they're saying on the other side of the world too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe the solution may be for everyone to stop buying plastic products...... immediately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was gonna put a similar thread here today too . But i though some people are sick of me banging on about animals all the time . It is disgraceful what we are doing but I doubt much will be done . "

Don’t EVER stop banging on about the animals yo!! 3

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I was gonna put a similar thread here today too . But i though some people are sick of me banging on about animals all the time . It is disgraceful what we are doing but I doubt much will be done .

Don’t EVER stop banging on about the animals yo!! 3"
Thanks . I will try but certain people on here troll my threads and abuse me . Then I get banned for retaliating

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe the solution may be for everyone to stop buying plastic products...... immediately "

Exactly, - microplastics included!

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I believe the solution may be for everyone to stop buying plastic products...... immediately

Exactly, - microplastics included! "
In an ideal world I 100% agree with this. But it won't happen as plastic is so cheap to make and companies just want more profit . That's itin a nutshell

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By *alldarksurreyMan
over a year ago

surrey

Their motto many years ago was 'the solution to pollution is dilution'! How wrong were they! Our ancient ancestors didn't leave the future generations mountains of rubbish or large areas which will be uninhabitable for thousands of years!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe the solution may be for everyone to stop buying plastic products...... immediately

Exactly, - microplastics included! In an ideal world I 100% agree with this. But it won't happen as plastic is so cheap to make and companies just want more profit . That's itin a nutshell

Decades ago it was realised that hemp was the solution, - but a certain superpower banned it & refused to trade with anyone who didn't.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I believe the solution may be for everyone to stop buying plastic products...... immediately

Exactly, - microplastics included! In an ideal world I 100% agree with this. But it won't happen as plastic is so cheap to make and companies just want more profit . That's itin a nutshell

Decades ago it was realised that hemp was the solution, - but a certain superpower banned it & refused to trade with anyone who didn't. "
Yes I heard about that many moons ago . I have no words except CUNTS !!

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"I believe the solution may be for everyone to stop buying plastic products...... immediately

Exactly, - microplastics included! In an ideal world I 100% agree with this. But it won't happen as plastic is so cheap to make and companies just want more profit . That's itin a nutshell

Decades ago it was realised that hemp was the solution, - but a certain superpower banned it & refused to trade with anyone who didn't. Yes I heard about that many moons ago . I have no words except CUNTS !!"

Nonsense!

The country that you mention has allowed the experiments since 2014, and they have not been successful. Major plastic users have tried to use it without success.

There is a massive incentive to be successful, because the breakthrough would net the successful producer $billions.

Apart from getting the plastic to the right standard, hemp is not as green as you seem to claim.

You need pesticides, a lot of fertiliser, a great deal of water, you need the farmland and you need a lot of labour to harvest it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I believe the solution may be for everyone to stop buying plastic products...... immediately

Exactly, - microplastics included! In an ideal world I 100% agree with this. But it won't happen as plastic is so cheap to make and companies just want more profit . That's itin a nutshell

Nonsense!

The country that you mention has allowed the experiments since 2014, and they have not been successful. Major plastic users have tried to use it without success.

There is a massive incentive to be successful, because the breakthrough would net the successful producer $billions.

Apart from getting the plastic to the right standard, hemp is not as green as you seem to claim.

You need pesticides, a lot of fertiliser, a great deal of water, you need the farmland and you need a lot of labour to harvest it.

you said it, - NONSENSE!

Hemp needs very little fertiliser or pesticides, - you only need to see where it grows wild - & India isn't exactly a wet country.

seems like uncle Sam has got into your head too!

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Try reading the specialist articles on growing hemp before posting, as I did, before you post anymore rubbish.

That's why I got my informed opinion from!

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Look at the ministryofhemp site for instance!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading the specialist articles on growing hemp before posting, as I did, before you post anymore rubbish.

That's why I got my informed opinion from!"

try travelling instead - & see where it grows fine without a touch from a human hand!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading the specialist articles on growing hemp before posting, as I did, before you post anymore rubbish.

That's why I got my informed opinion from!"

Two loads of rubbish you've posted in a few minutes; - a backpack is your friend, & more educational that the net!

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

There is a vast difference between growing something naturally and a commercial crop.

You can grow a few strawberries outside in your garden by doing nothing to them, but that won't exactly satisfy an order from Tescos for a few million strawberries of the right shape, grade and flavour.

You are just talking nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a vast difference between growing something naturally and a commercial crop.

You are just talking nonsense.

AGAIN ........ The subtropical & temperate , (even tropical in places of elevation) parts of the planet is loaded with areas favourable to growing hemp, that's why it grows so easy there.

I've seen a plant growing on 12"" of gravel that was laid 6 months earlier; not because it was planted there, only because someone dropped a seed there!!

And there's plenty of labour in third world countries, - better than sitting around & waiting for aid!

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By *ust Us TogetherCouple
over a year ago

Newport

We have become a throw away society and that is the main problem. We want it new, cheap and now. We don't buy second hand as that is now totally shunned by the majority and we don't repair anything anymore. It breaks because it is cheap and not made to last so we replace and the old item goes to landfill.

I cannot remember the last time we had anything repaired...

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

And I repeat - whoever is successful would make $billions. No one has been yet. The incentive is there. The law allows it. It is not as simple as you are claiming.

And collecting aid is much more profitable.

Zimbabwe gets £2million a week, just from the UK. Just ask Mrs Mugabe about the Gucci handbags.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"We have become a throw away society and that is the main problem. We want it new, cheap and now. We don't buy second hand as that is now totally shunned by the majority and we don't repair anything anymore. It breaks because it is cheap and not made to last so we replace and the old item goes to landfill.

I cannot remember the last time we had anything repaired...

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Unfortuanatly you are 100% correct . It's a shame but nothing will change until this planet becomes uninhabitable because we've destroyed the natural world !

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

I cannot remember the last time we had anything repaired...

Unfortuanatly you are 100% correct . It's a shame but nothing will change until this planet becomes uninhabitable because we've destroyed the natural world !"

Except that if you look at the past and see what has really changed the planet it has been natural phenomena.

Massive temperature changes, from blazing heat, to freezing cold. Earthquakes, volcanos, floods, asteroid strikes.

These are what has made the planet what it is and uninhabitable at times.

One day the sun will simply explode and it will all be over anyway.

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By *arry WindsorMan
over a year ago

Heaton Park Manchester

"Well that Kim bastard could make a start by not dropping bombs on Japanese fish for starters.

Then we could start cracking down on beach goers who leave their trash behind at the end of the day.

4 shipping containers (on average) fall off ships each week.

Shouldn't have to but put a reward for handing in plastic bottles to be recycled like we used to with glass ones."

They do this in Germany for both plastic and glass bottles; they have done for many years.

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By *eedsandyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

And as I said above, the Germans then incinerate most of them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cannot remember the last time we had anything repaired...

Unfortuanatly you are 100% correct . It's a shame but nothing will change until this planet becomes uninhabitable because we've destroyed the natural world !

Except that if you look at the past and see what has really changed the planet it has been natural phenomena.

Massive temperature changes, from blazing heat, to freezing cold. Earthquakes, volcanos, floods, asteroid strikes.

These are what has made the planet what it is and uninhabitable at times.

One day the sun will simply explode and it will all be over anyway.

But in the past was there 7 billion people chucking plastic waste into the oceans?

The only truly civilised people left are the tribes living in the Amazon or the very few other pockets of jungle on the planet.

They'll probably be the only ones to survive, providing they're left alone, because they respect their surroundings.

The greedy West has fckd the planet.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I cannot remember the last time we had anything repaired...

Unfortuanatly you are 100% correct . It's a shame but nothing will change until this planet becomes uninhabitable because we've destroyed the natural world !

Except that if you look at the past and see what has really changed the planet it has been natural phenomena.

Massive temperature changes, from blazing heat, to freezing cold. Earthquakes, volcanos, floods, asteroid strikes.

These are what has made the planet what it is and uninhabitable at times.

One day the sun will simply explode and it will all be over anyway.

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Well that's ok then . Let's just fuck our planet up because the planet will be microwaved in around 3 billion years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what's the answer

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"So what's the answer"
Unless every countries government's come together and try and find an alternative to plastics there is no solution because that won't happen .

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By *ust Us TogetherCouple
over a year ago

Newport

"So what's the answer Unless every countries government's come together and try and find an alternative to plastics there is no solution because that won't happen ."

Nothing will happen until the vast majority of people decide to change their habits and lifestyles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wish everyone in the world cared more and then we could make a difference together

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So what's the answer"

Heavily tax people with yachts to clean up their shit.

Last time I was away with a yachtsman, some Germans emptied their tank right where we were swimming.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything must come to an end

All forms of life as we know it

Nothing lives forever,including the planet we live on,mankind is just hurrying along the inevitable.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Wish everyone in the world cared more and then we could make a difference together "
Yes but , as I keep saying , it will never happen . Too much greed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everything must come to an end

All forms of life as we know it

Nothing lives forever,including the planet we live on,mankind is just hurrying along the inevitable.

very true, but it only goes to prove that we don't give a damn about our future generations.

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