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"I was reading about this earlier. It's been trialled on teens in USA who apparently reported that the male could feel it but that it enhanced pleasure. It's interesting that there's this and the i. condom (which isn't a condom but a ring) being developed." Yeah i was kind of wondering how the flip you wouldn't feel it. I think it's more the guys in Malawi didn't care than didn't know | |||
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"Well this kind of sums up the problem in places like Malawi I guess . They have hiv , won’t wear condoms , and are seemingly happy to keep spreading it . So they come up with a solution which costs half the annual salary a year , is only effective in a third of cases , and we in the west are supposed to help fund it ! Are these people just plain stupid or what ? If ever there was an example of nature naturally ing out the idiots then surely this is it . Leave them to it ...... ![]() Try and imagine being a poor woman in this country about 150 years ago and then telling your partner that he had to wear something that would decrease his pleasure during sex. Can you understand why the woman might often lose that arguement? As for the men... | |||
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"Well this kind of sums up the problem in places like Malawi I guess . They have hiv , won’t wear condoms , and are seemingly happy to keep spreading it . So they come up with a solution which costs half the annual salary a year , is only effective in a third of cases , and we in the west are supposed to help fund it ! Are these people just plain stupid or what ? If ever there was an example of nature naturally ing out the idiots then surely this is it . Leave them to it ...... ![]() True , but 150 years ago syphillis was a major killer here , for the same reasons as hiv is in Africa . I guess as humans we never learn do we ? It’s kind of strange that throughout the history of mankind that sti has been such a major cause of death isn’t it ? I’ve often wondered why everything we enjoy has such dramatic side effects . Sex , food , smoking , alcohol to name a few ...... | |||
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"If the population had much influence on the price of the medical service and device, it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive and would save more lives. We know that sex is an essential human need, and richer countries that have social responsibility shouldn't find it too hard to fund thousands of these each year. Sadly men's attitude in many countries is terrible, leaving women with minimal protection from abuse. " Bareback sex out of wedlock isn't an essential human need though. So i don't really follow the social responsibility arguement... | |||
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"Well this kind of sums up the problem in places like Malawi I guess . They have hiv , won’t wear condoms , and are seemingly happy to keep spreading it . So they come up with a solution which costs half the annual salary a year , is only effective in a third of cases , and we in the west are supposed to help fund it ! Are these people just plain stupid or what ? If ever there was an example of nature naturally ing out the idiots then surely this is it . Leave them to it ...... ![]() But that's evolution though. Something has to be popular to get the critical mass to spread. It's not so much that things that are fun develop consequences and more that consequences can easily spread through things that are popular. | |||
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"Well this kind of sums up the problem in places like Malawi I guess . They have hiv , won’t wear condoms , and are seemingly happy to keep spreading it . So they come up with a solution which costs half the annual salary a year , is only effective in a third of cases , and we in the west are supposed to help fund it ! Are these people just plain stupid or what ? If ever there was an example of nature naturally ing out the idiots then surely this is it . Leave them to it ...... ![]() Well I kinda get what you’re saying , but the fact remains that evolution has always shown that we tend to like things that perhaps we shouldn’t doesn’t it ? | |||
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"Well this kind of sums up the problem in places like Malawi I guess . They have hiv , won’t wear condoms , and are seemingly happy to keep spreading it . So they come up with a solution which costs half the annual salary a year , is only effective in a third of cases , and we in the west are supposed to help fund it ! Are these people just plain stupid or what ? If ever there was an example of nature naturally ing out the idiots then surely this is it . Leave them to it ...... ![]() I think there are things that used to be rare and now are abundant, therefore there was never a need to develop self control over them so we never did. I wouldn't put sex in that category but sugar and fat, definately | |||
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"If the population had much influence on the price of the medical service and device, it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive and would save more lives. We know that sex is an essential human need, and richer countries that have social responsibility shouldn't find it too hard to fund thousands of these each year. Sadly men's attitude in many countries is terrible, leaving women with minimal protection from abuse. Bareback sex out of wedlock isn't an essential human need though. So i don't really follow the social responsibility arguement..." Sex is a human need and it's clear that commonly the men in a number of countries dominate women - including their wives - forcing bareback sex and also using other women similarly. Whilst we in our culture may find this intolerable, context provides the full meaning of their actions. These societies are vastly different to ours and it's tragic that huge numbers of people will contract HIV when this medical aide could prevent this and their loss of lives too, as HIV treatments are not universally available either. | |||
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"If the population had much influence on the price of the medical service and device, it wouldn't be prohibitively expensive and would save more lives. We know that sex is an essential human need, and richer countries that have social responsibility shouldn't find it too hard to fund thousands of these each year. Sadly men's attitude in many countries is terrible, leaving women with minimal protection from abuse. Bareback sex out of wedlock isn't an essential human need though. So i don't really follow the social responsibility arguement... Sex is a human need and it's clear that commonly the men in a number of countries dominate women - including their wives - forcing bareback sex and also using other women similarly. Whilst we in our culture may find this intolerable, context provides the full meaning of their actions. These societies are vastly different to ours and it's tragic that huge numbers of people will contract HIV when this medical aide could prevent this and their loss of lives too, as HIV treatments are not universally available either." So why is it us that need to change as opposed to them? | |||
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"Well this kind of sums up the problem in places like Malawi I guess . They have hiv , won’t wear condoms , and are seemingly happy to keep spreading it . So they come up with a solution which costs half the annual salary a year , is only effective in a third of cases , and we in the west are supposed to help fund it ! Are these people just plain stupid or what ? If ever there was an example of nature naturally ing out the idiots then surely this is it . Leave them to it ...... ![]() I’d put sex at the top to be honest . History shows that from the very beginning of human life that stds have been prevalent and killed countless billions of people . | |||
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