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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Did she not explain why she thought that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shaved head, tattoos and a shirt?

Fucking hypocrite.

X

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Opinions are all well and good but I think the use of disgusting is a bit strong. You should have commented on her trousers saying that you find them disgusting on women. But each to thier own I suppose. Nevertheless some find out choice of lifestyle somewhat strange while others embrace it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting.

Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values

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By *iss SJWoman
over a year ago

Hull


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)"

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

"

Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her.

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By *oisisbackCouple
over a year ago

exeter


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Don't see where what she is wearing has a bearing on her opinion of a transvestite ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her."

That's not what AKA means

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By *oisisbackCouple
over a year ago

exeter


"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing."

Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May have been jealous of what you were wearing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing.

Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol"

But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?

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By *oisisbackCouple
over a year ago

exeter


"But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?"

Youll have to grab the crutch area and find out ! P.S. I'm all woman xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?

Youll have to grab the crutch area and find out ! P.S. I'm all woman xx "

Are you inviting me to grab your crotch area?

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By *oisisbackCouple
over a year ago

exeter


"Are you inviting me to grab your crotch area? "

Don't think even your arms are long enough to stretch from Doncaster to Exeter lol ........nice bum though needs fingernail marks ! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing.

Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol

But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?"
no , same as men who wear kilts arnt tvs lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her.

That's not what AKA means"

AKA also known as. She's also known as a slag by her friends.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her.

That's not what AKA means

AKA also known as. She's also known as a slag by her friends."
she sounds like a lovely person to know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing.

Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol

But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?no , same as men who wear kilts arnt tvs lol"

I'm still no closer to understanding what trousers have to do with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot depends on context. Was this a conversation where the subject turned to TVs? If so,she was probably within her rights to contribute her opinion.

Were you just minding your own business and she came over to tell you that she found you disgusting? If so,she may be entitled to her opinion but she would also be entitled to keep her opinion to herself.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing.

Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol

But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?no , same as men who wear kilts arnt tvs lol

I'm still no closer to understanding what trousers have to do with "

Donald lost a pair according to a song

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By *ampWithABrainWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Strange rude woman.

Yes trousers being worn by women (and shirts, certain styles of shoes, neckties, blazers, certain styles of hats etc) are all relatively recent, hitting the mainstream mainly post wwI.

At that time there were female transvestites too, even now you still get drag kings.

Me I think, clothes are clothes, let people wear what they want, what they feel comfortable and confident in.

Make up too, I'm an 80's girl so I well remember lots of men who weren't transvestite or transsexual necessarily wearing make up in the 80's and lots do now too, bb cream, concealer, eyeliner...

Hell if you really go back men wore make up and heels first!

I'm not particularly sexually attracted to t-girls but live and let live.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


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No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values"

Every single word ever used is 'made up'.

And it is used to describe those who demonstrate hate and discrimination towards trans people. Not merely those who live 'traditionally'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values

Every single word ever used is 'made up'.

And it is used to describe those who demonstrate hate and discrimination towards trans people. Not merely those who live 'traditionally'. "

Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk....

I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a difficult question to answer totally honestly, for fear of upsetting the people who publicly take the moral high ground, many of whom will have an entirely different view in private.

I guess the issue is actually voicing your own opinion, especially if it does not conform to the current trend of being politically correct.

People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples)

She is entirely entitled to her own viewpoint. But the fact is that she must keep it to herself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values

Every single word ever used is 'made up'.

And it is used to describe those who demonstrate hate and discrimination towards trans people. Not merely those who live 'traditionally'.

Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk....

I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority"

Surely,in this story,the lady who made the 'digusting' comment could be said to be the hate filled bigot,hardly decent behaviour.

Also,a phobia being an irrational fear,she could be said to be phobic if she has no reason or rationality behind her disgust.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I strongly dislike beards and women who take pouty selfies.

Guess I do have pogonophobia (Google it)

Don't think there is an actual term yet for the dislike of pouting.

Give it time and the PC brigade will make my dislikes a hate Crime, to add to the increasing list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing I dislike most about trans is that inevitably they have way better legs than me and it's just NOT FAIR!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A minority seek to rob the world of common sense....

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"It's a difficult question to answer totally honestly, for fear of upsetting the people who publicly take the moral high ground, many of whom will have an entirely different view in private.

I guess the issue is actually voicing your own opinion, especially if it does not conform to the current trend of being politically correct.

People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples)

She is entirely entitled to her own viewpoint. But the fact is that she must keep it to herself.

"

You're allowed to say whatever you want. People are then allowed in response to say whatever they want.

Demanding to be allowed to say that you think gay/trans/whoever people are wrong and that no one is then allowed to criticise your opinions isn't how life, or free speech, works.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Don't see the correlation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A minority seek to rob the world of common sense...."

Care to explain what you mean by that?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"It's a difficult question to answer totally honestly, for fear of upsetting the people who publicly take the moral high ground, many of whom will have an entirely different view in private.

I guess the issue is actually voicing your own opinion, especially if it does not conform to the current trend of being politically correct.

People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples)

She is entirely entitled to her own viewpoint. But the fact is that she must keep it to herself.

You're allowed to say whatever you want. People are then allowed in response to say whatever they want.

Demanding to be allowed to say that you think gay/trans/whoever people are wrong and that no one is then allowed to criticise your opinions isn't how life, or free speech, works.

"

She didn't say it was wrong though, she said it was disguisting. Which is what the majority of the population think about swinging. That's their opinion, not a hate crime.

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By *aimeSmithTV/TS
over a year ago

Cliss

People are entitled to their opinions, its just how they deliver them which can annoy me.

The thing with the fab label of TV TS is that its such a broad base, from guys who like to wear panties, through transvestism to trans gender. All are different.

I find it difficult trying to label myself and just agree with the notion that sexuality is on a spectrum, upon which I often move.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"It's a difficult question to answer totally honestly, for fear of upsetting the people who publicly take the moral high ground, many of whom will have an entirely different view in private.

I guess the issue is actually voicing your own opinion, especially if it does not conform to the current trend of being politically correct.

People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples)

She is entirely entitled to her own viewpoint. But the fact is that she must keep it to herself.

You're allowed to say whatever you want. People are then allowed in response to say whatever they want.

Demanding to be allowed to say that you think gay/trans/whoever people are wrong and that no one is then allowed to criticise your opinions isn't how life, or free speech, works.

She didn't say it was wrong though, she said it was disguisting. Which is what the majority of the population think about swinging. That's their opinion, not a hate crime. "

You know, debates go better if your responses line up with what you're quoting.

You're not replying to me saying 'that's a hate crime!' (because I didn't say it was).

You're replying to my description of why it's not correct to say 'people aren't allowed to say they don't like certain groups'.

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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

"

Together we could prove or disprove the theory..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are many misconceptions, so allow me to clarify a few.

Cisgender 101 - Understanding Cisgenderism

A cisgender person is someone who believes their gender identity matches the one they were assigned at birth. They were born like this and did not choose it.

Although you may not realise it, cisgender people are all around us. It is often very hard to tell if someone is cisgender at first glance. Many cisgender people invest much time and energy to ensure they "pass" or appear as their assigned gender.

Some scientists believe that cisgenderism is a result of a fault in the brain of cisgender people, which prevents them identifying as anything other than the gender they were assigned at birth.

Nobody is sure what causes cisgenderism: genetics, hormones, or reinforcement of gender stereotypes as a child, but there is no known cure.

Cisgender people often suffer from "body dysmorphia" - a feeling of distress or extreme dislike for their bodies - and they often take medicine, or undergo surgery so that their bodies more closely match their gender identities.

Cisgender people aren't always straight - many cisgender people identify as gay, lesbian, or even bisexual!

Cisgender people can often be upset if you get their pronouns wrong. If you aren't sure, remember it's ok to ask.

Don't refer to them as "a cisgender," "a cis," or even as "cis scum." The correct term is a "cisgender person," or even just "person."

Don't ask them about their genitals, or if they've had surgery. While some cisgender people are happy to talk about their bodies, most will consider it rude.

It's not a phase. Although it may be hard for you to understand, most cisgender people do not grow out of being cis.

Be patient and accept that they did not choose to be cisgendered.

Try to be supportive. Coming out as a cisgender person can be hard and can force people to look at themselves in a different light.

Keep an open mind! Although the news media often tries to reinforce certain stereotypes, cisgender people come in all shapes and sizes.

Some cisgender people refer to non-cis people as "trans." Although it is sometimes used in anger, "trans" is not an insult and is used to differentiate between cisgender and normal people.

Remember, many cisgender people do live happy, productive lives!

Here are just a few famous cisgender people:

Ainsley Harriot - TV Chef

Monica Lewinsky - Former aide to Bill Clinton

Elijah Blue Allman - Musician and son of Cher

Catherine the Great - Queen of Russia

Angela Merkel - German Chancellor

Laszio Biro - Inventor of the ballpoint pen

You may use the space below to express your ire and disgust at being labelled cisgender.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

A good post LisaLipgloss

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By *oisisbackCouple
over a year ago

exeter

To cut a long story short then a cisgender person is everyone else on earth who hasn't or feels the need for a sex change !

Is there really a need for a word or paragraphs like the one above ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought AKA meant Amazing Knickers Advertisement.

Which fab ladies are

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

No. You've confused two issues.

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By *icky_tvLondonTV/TS
over a year ago

london


"There are many misconceptions, so allow me to clarify a few.

Cisgender 101 - Understanding Cisgenderism

A cisgender person is someone who believes their gender identity matches the one they were assigned at birth. They were born like this and did not choose it.

Although you may not realise it, cisgender people are all around us. It is often very hard to tell if someone is cisgender at first glance. Many cisgender people invest much time and energy to ensure they "pass" or appear as their assigned gender.

Some scientists believe that cisgenderism is a result of a fault in the brain of cisgender people, which prevents them identifying as anything other than the gender they were assigned at birth.

Nobody is sure what causes cisgenderism: genetics, hormones, or reinforcement of gender stereotypes as a child, but there is no known cure.

Cisgender people often suffer from "body dysmorphia" - a feeling of distress or extreme dislike for their bodies - and they often take medicine, or undergo surgery so that their bodies more closely match their gender identities.

Cisgender people aren't always straight - many cisgender people identify as gay, lesbian, or even bisexual!

Cisgender people can often be upset if you get their pronouns wrong. If you aren't sure, remember it's ok to ask.

Don't refer to them as "a cisgender," "a cis," or even as "cis scum." The correct term is a "cisgender person," or even just "person."

Don't ask them about their genitals, or if they've had surgery. While some cisgender people are happy to talk about their bodies, most will consider it rude.

It's not a phase. Although it may be hard for you to understand, most cisgender people do not grow out of being cis.

Be patient and accept that they did not choose to be cisgendered.

Try to be supportive. Coming out as a cisgender person can be hard and can force people to look at themselves in a different light.

Keep an open mind! Although the news media often tries to reinforce certain stereotypes, cisgender people come in all shapes and sizes.

Some cisgender people refer to non-cis people as "trans." Although it is sometimes used in anger, "trans" is not an insult and is used to differentiate between cisgender and normal people.

Remember, many cisgender people do live happy, productive lives!

Here are just a few famous cisgender people:

Ainsley Harriot - TV Chef

Monica Lewinsky - Former aide to Bill Clinton

Elijah Blue Allman - Musician and son of Cher

Catherine the Great - Queen of Russia

Angela Merkel - German Chancellor

Laszio Biro - Inventor of the ballpoint pen

You may use the space below to express your ire and disgust at being labelled cisgender."

So you're saying one can take the piss yet stay dry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

I reckon she was jealous as your makeup was better than hers! She saw you as a threat! Your too fabulous for her!

"

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

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I like your logic

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

Not read all the posts - but whilst I think it was completely uncalled for for her to call transvestites disgusting - I think it’s also uncalled for for you or her ‘friends ‘ to call her a ‘slag’!

Most men, women, tv’s and ts’s on this site are promiscuous by ‘real world ‘ standards - so derogatory terms are, I feel, completely inappropriate!

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Surely we should all be in skirts or dresses...

From the earliest human we were all wearing skirts, kilts, togas, wraps etc made of fur, reeds,cottons, long before trousers were invented...

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

‘Disgusting’ ...arousing revulsion or strong indignation.

At first I thought it was an interesting word to use but ‘strong indignation’ now, possibly the right one for her feelings on the matter.

I had strong feelings about certain people in society at one time but over the years and meeting those people changed my initial prejudices. I hope the same happens for this Lady if not ...never mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm rather fond of TVs just don't get to meet many where I'm from,I got called disgusting by a woman because on my profile had me and a TVs pics on there

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Life's to short,

Don't worry, Be happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm rather fond of TVs just don't get to meet many where I'm from,I got called disgusting by a woman because on my profile had me and a TVs pics on there

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Im confused as to what exactly this thread is about ...

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Im confused as to what exactly this thread is about ..."

If you are a woman and you find cross dressers disgusting then you shouldn't wear trousers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm rather fond of TVs just don't get to meet many where I'm from,I got called disgusting by a woman because on my profile had me and a TVs pics on there"

You already said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't matter what you do or who you are, someone will be disgusted...just do what you want and crack on and enjoy yourself. Who cares who likes it or doesn't?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doesn't matter what you do or who you are, someone will be disgusted...just do what you want and crack on and enjoy yourself. Who cares who likes it or doesn't? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

"

makes me one too then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m a tranny and can be as disgusting as you like lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing."

Thats what I thought since I wear trousers for work and day to day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh I don't think they are disgusting. ..but you want to see the state of my Y Fronts when in man mode

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I find the transvestites I have met absolutely deliciously disgusting. Pure unadulterated filth. Give me more please!

Institutionalised cross dressing seems fine for women, should be made more acceptable for men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doesn't matter what you do or who you are, someone will be disgusted...just do what you want and crack on and enjoy yourself. Who cares who likes it or doesn't? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples)"

First off, surely you mean 'allowed to CONDEMN abortion'?

Second, you're still allowed to say that you don't like LGBT, fatties, gingers etc...the difference is that, in contrast to fifty years ago, people like THIS fat bi guy are going to start asking HOW you arrived at that particular opinion...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values

Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk....

I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority"

On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values."

So listen up.

Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY.

For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people.

To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools.

In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.'

What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings.

As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

"

Oh you trollop!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting.

Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)"

Maybe she seen you as a threat

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By *oney_Bee_xTV/TS
over a year ago

Teesside

Does she feel that way because some of them are more attractive than some generic women........ or because some look way better than she does?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values

Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk....

I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority

On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values."

So listen up.

Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY.

For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people.

To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools.

In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.'

What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings.

As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A bitter fountain cannot produce sweet waters....

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

When someone feels the need to demonise, or dehumanise, others, often it is done to disguise or distract from some aspect of their self, some insecurity or self-loathing.

Try not to take it personally - it says more about her than you. People who judge define themselves.

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By *entileschiWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

Not to accept the rights of another human being is disgusting. A person's gender choice or sexuality is nobody's business but their own.

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. "

Why would you be a drain on the NHS?

Are you an obese cigarette smoker? A reckless driver?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. "

Funny how people assume.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact ..

Funny how people assume. "

Fucking hell those hot pants!!!!!! xx

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By *abulously curiousCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx"

Maybe some lack the confidence to go into shops and try clothes on,then end up shopping on E Bay with no one to give them guidance. Maybe also lacking the confidence to ask for make up advice in stores.

There's no real need for anyone to be so shy,this is the 21st century,clothes and make up assistants would be only too glad to help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact ..

Funny how people assume. "

Even if a TS woman was getting all her help from the NHS, do people know how much HRT costs? I do,it's not much. A drop in the ocean if we are talking about dwindling NHS resources,hardly a drain. If a depressed,suicidal,unemployable person is transformed into a healthy,well adjusted,hard working taxpayer,then it is money well spent,isn't it?

There may be those who say that psychiatric help is what is needed. Talk about a drain on resources.Do you know how much psych Drs charge? I do,it's a flippin' lot.They don't guarantee results and they are never likely to say 'you're cured'.That would be like turkeys voting for xmas.

If people feel that the most cost effective treatment should be given,at least a surgeon can offer decisive,tangible results.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact ..

Funny how people assume.

Even if a TS woman was getting all her help from the NHS, do people know how much HRT costs? I do,it's not much. A drop in the ocean if we are talking about dwindling NHS resources,hardly a drain. If a depressed,suicidal,unemployable person is transformed into a healthy,well adjusted,hard working taxpayer,then it is money well spent,isn't it?

There may be those who say that psychiatric help is what is needed. Talk about a drain on resources.Do you know how much psych Drs charge? I do,it's a flippin' lot.They don't guarantee results and they are never likely to say 'you're cured'.That would be like turkeys voting for xmas.

If people feel that the most cost effective treatment should be given,at least a surgeon can offer decisive,tangible results."

I’m sure many of us come across people who speak with authority without any actual knowledge.

The girl who said she was a drain on the nhs, to my knowledge, doesn’t seem to be transitioning and so costs the nhs nothing.

Personally I am transitioning and I pay for my hrt, blood tests, consultations and laser myself. So I cost the nhs nothing.

As you say; giving people the help they seek is often is the less expensive option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact ..

Funny how people assume.

Fucking hell those hot pants!!!!!! xx"

Lol.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Your ass looks *nearly* as good as mine...

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

I can't apologise for her but all the same sorry you had hurtful words.

That said your topic is a bit OTT.

It's the view of just one person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I’d tell her to shove her opinion up her arse. As long as you’re happy and comfortable then what does it matter?

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford


" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact ..

Why would you be a drain on the NHS?

Are you an obese cigarette smoker? A reckless driver? "

ive no idea ..u better ask her lol

no i hate smoking and im slim and super fit ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting.

Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)"

So all flirtatious women are "Slags"

.. not sure whose worse?

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx"

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting.

Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)"

I hate the word slag.

Everyone’s going to hate someone, not much we can do about it.

Spread happiness is all you can do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx"

Did their grandmothers with poor eyesight, teach them makeup skills and loan a few clothes?

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford


"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing.

Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol

But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?"

women are allowed to wear what they want...without fear of ridicule...many prefer " mens clothes" for different reasons..no one gives a fuck when they go shopping in the mens dept.if your a guy and u shop in the womans

section u will often get odd looks ..once i was even told the mens clothes were upstairs

.. my ex seemed to prefer non feminine clothes .. which was sad really as she always looked so lovely when she wore a nice dress or skirt .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .."

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your ass looks *nearly* as good as mine... "

thanks Clem. Nearly is good enuf for me

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values

Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk....

I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority

On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values."

So listen up.

Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY.

For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people.

To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools.

In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.'

What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings.

As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism.

"

Well said. It's the people who stand up and speak out for the LGBT community who help to make this world a safer place. To call someone out for using words like 'disgusting' when referring to TVs/TSs can only be a good thing. Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance.

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By *imon_hydeMan
over a year ago

Stockport


"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values

Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk....

I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority

On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values."

So listen up.

Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY.

For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people.

To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools.

In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.'

What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings.

As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism.

Well said. It's the people who stand up and speak out for the LGBT community who help to make this world a safer place. To call someone out for using words like 'disgusting' when referring to TVs/TSs can only be a good thing. Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

So can you explain what her wearing trousers has to do with....well anything

She has her opinion, you might not like it, however i bet you have veiws other people might find disgusting, which leads to a bigger question

Why do you care what some random woman thinks?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen so many transvestites on here and spoke to a few as well am not offended by any of it

People should able to be who they want to be

People sometimes can't understand things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen so many transvestites on here and spoke to a few as well am not offended by any of it

People should able to be who they want to be

People sometimes can't understand things "

Forgot to add some of them are stunning as well

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By *abulously curiousCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..I absolutely agree. Forgive me but I'm talking 50clock shadow bright blue eyeshadow open toe shoes and tights. Is that the look planned? T's girls I c here are amazingly beautiful

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. "

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By *abulously curiousCouple
over a year ago

manchester


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..I absolutely agree. Forgive me but I'm talking 50clock shadow bright blue eyeshadow open toe shoes and tights. Is that the look planned? T's girls I c here are amazingly beautiful

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Yes I think your right, you should have told her to get her trousers off!

In reality though why did she think they were disgusting? Did she think TVs don’t wash?

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By *vanabeusedTV/TS
over a year ago

somewhere

Any girls bring it up with in my vanilla life hate the idea . If tried to find someone to share Ivan’s with for years and she ain’t out there so her response does not surprise me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That statement she made speaks volumes about the type of person she is, judgemental and narrow minded.

I feel pity for people who make such statements.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"May have been jealous of what you were wearing. "

Maybe jealous because you looked better than her and more of a woman.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting.

Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)"

Right !

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By *ingers McgeeMan
over a year ago

cambridge

I have friends in all races religions sexualities genders and inclinations some of the twisted buggers even like football but I've learned one very valuable lesson in life

If you can't help make someone's day better ...do try not to make it worse.

The woman in question is entitled to her views but should perhaps consider voicing any opinions in a more tactful and appropriate manner.

That is all!!

Play nice stay safe !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance. "

Precisely...it's why I get annoyed at people who only preach about 'the right to freedom of speech' when they're called out for using bigoted/insulting/abusive language.

Do they have a right to freedom of speech? Yes

Do they have a right to say offensive things? Yes

Do they have a right to expect people to ignore them or refrain from criticism of their views? NO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. "

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear..."

i have seen these guys/girls at parties and in clubs , but never in the street in daylight hours ... tbh if they have the balls to walk around like that then good luck to them ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear..."

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts.

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear..."

Oi lurvs my Vivienne Westwood velvet bell bottoms me guv.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

.

Why cant people respect each others choices eveyone is different no one on this earth is the same. as long as no harm , wrong doing or evil is comited then people should focus on them self and what they are doing different in their life that others may find different and ""dissgusting"" be who you want to be. you are not disgusting their veiws are

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

.

Why cant people respect each others choices eveyone is different no one on this earth is the same. as long as no harm , wrong doing or evil is comited then people should focus on them self and what they are doing different in their life that others may find different and ""dissgusting"" be who you want to be. you are not disgusting their veiws are "
.

Thank you , now I can find someone to help satisfy my Pingu fetish,

Good point though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are all different

We are all equal

I seem to type this a lot. But it's true. We are all born little and naked. We aren't born with prejudice in our hearts. It's all learnt behaviour. So we can unlearn hate just as we can learn love.

I know I sound like a hippy dippy type but I honestly believe that all people deserve respect. Even those that don't share our opinions. Gentle education and showing love can help. It might not change their mind today but it may change it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

.

Why cant people respect each others choices eveyone is different no one on this earth is the same. as long as no harm , wrong doing or evil is comited then people should focus on them self and what they are doing different in their life that others may find different and ""dissgusting"" be who you want to be. you are not disgusting their veiws are .

Thank you , now I can find someone to help satisfy my Pingu fetish,

Good point though "

O ok I take it all back pingu is just to far wtf his squeek is themost anoying thing i remember as a child

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By *irral TwoCouple
over a year ago

Wirral

Did said trousers lady was wearing button to right or left?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. "

The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves..

We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts.

The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves..

We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. "

There you go again. Lol.

I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know.

You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys.

No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out.

I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

"

God I hope so,no offence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts.

The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves..

We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing..

There you go again. Lol.

I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know.

You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys.

No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out.

I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts.

The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves..

We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing..

There you go again. Lol.

I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know.

You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys.

No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out.

I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite.

This "

And again

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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago

aylesbury


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts.

The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves..

We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing..

There you go again. Lol.

I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know.

You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys.

No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out.

I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite.

This

And again "
this

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west

I too live full time as a tgirl

The only real sign of true femininity ,.....

Have you stumbled to the shop hungover on a Sunday morning in tshirt and jeans and mismatched underwear (bra must be that dirty grey from multiple mixed washes colour ) whilst muttering how much you hate everyone and declaring vodka and prosecco are evil.

If not pfft your a fantasist who cracks off to the clog adverts in the back of the paper. (Though this can be fun).

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Trousers aren’t solely male clothing, women have been wearing trousers a lot of years.

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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago

aylesbury


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values"
yes there is such a word hence we have laws in this country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts.

The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves..

We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing..

There you go again. Lol.

I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know.

You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys.

No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out.

I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite.

This

And again this "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I too live full time as a tgirl

The only real sign of true femininity ,.....

Have you stumbled to the shop hungover on a Sunday morning in tshirt and jeans and mismatched underwear (bra must be that dirty grey from multiple mixed washes colour ) whilst muttering how much you hate everyone and declaring vodka and prosecco are evil.

If not pfft your a fantasist who cracks off to the clog adverts in the back of the paper. (Though this can be fun)."

hilarious

As a frugal girl I’ve died my greying undies purple. A whole new lease of life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Question... genuine so please don't be offended...

The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx

well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..

One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts.

Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention...

Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear...

I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone.

Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts.

The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves..

We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing..

There you go again. Lol.

I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know.

You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys.

No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out.

I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite.

"

As usual your just seeking to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others...

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By *lub coupleCouple
over a year ago

Halifax


" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)

Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag?

"
No but you are from Hull!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner...

What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us...

As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech...

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west


"

As a frugal girl I’ve died my greying undies purple. A whole new lease of life "

Pro Tip - noted !

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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago

aylesbury


"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner...

What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us...

As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech..."
not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner..."

No-one is denying that they have that right, but WE have the right to criticise their views.


"What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us..."

No-one is disputing their right to hold a different view...we're simply subjecting their views to criticism and demonstrating that said views are born of ignorance and misunderstanding...


"the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech..."

Interesting, isn't it, that people seem to invoke 'freedom of conscience and speech' only as a means to deflect criticism, or to deny other people the right to criticise their views...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner...

What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us...

As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead "

You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being

nasty...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

trans people are hot simple as

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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago

aylesbury


"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner...

What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us...

As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead

You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being

nasty...

"
of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well said. It's the people who stand up and speak out for the LGBT community who help to make this world a safer place. To call someone out for using words like 'disgusting' when referring to TVs/TSs can only be a good thing. Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance. "

Why do we teach tolerance though? I would rather be ignored than tolerated, especially when it is regarding something I do that affects nobody else but me and the people who willingly participate in some of these things with me. The people that I tolerate are the ones that think airing their views about these things in a way that could have a negative effect on me (if I cared enough about the opinions that insignificant people may have on me) whether it is what I am wearing, my hair colour or my sexuality for example. These people need to ignore the things others do, if they will never affect them in a harmful way and then tolerance would not be needed and we could all get on with our lives and be who we are....and be happier, surely?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner...

What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us...

As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead

You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being

nasty...

of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are "

The Apostle Paul said his own opinion of himself was valueless...

He also gave the finest paragraph on Love in history,go read it in First Corinthians...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner...

What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us...

As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead

You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being

nasty...

of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are

The Apostle Paul said his own opinion of himself was valueless...

He also gave the finest paragraph on Love in history,go read it in First Corinthians..."

How about you don’t start trying to quote religious stuff all over again. It’s not relevant.

It seems many of us have a very different view of things than you. The difference is we don’t post so aggressively.

Signing your posts as “nasty” is very honest of you though.

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west

I have faith that there is hope for you to one day truly embrace that love.

I much prefer

We'll be living in a world of peace

And the day when everyone is free

We'll bring the young and the old

Won't you let your love flow, from your heart

XxX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong...

They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner...

What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us...

As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead

You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being

nasty...

of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are

The Apostle Paul said his own opinion of himself was valueless...

He also gave the finest paragraph on Love in history,go read it in First Corinthians...

How about you don’t start trying to quote religious stuff all over again. It’s not relevant.

It seems many of us have a very different view of things than you. The difference is we don’t post so aggressively.

Signing your posts as “nasty” is very honest of you though.

"

You just view reality as an enemy...Seems when long time Trans that walk the walk speak on these forums to correct fallacies and fantasies so that those outside our community might not be fed misinformation, nor the younger vunerable trans just learning...

We are subjected to the cliques tirades...

I am not the only one, nor will I be the last..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately, Mara, you long time transvestites are too stuck in your ways and don’t understand transgender people.

Unlike you, I don’t dress up and take pictures of myself fucking other transvestites and of myself playing with my penis.

Calling me a fake is laughable.

I thought you might like to see the reality of hormones so I’ve uploaded a pic of my bum with a hrt patch. We don’t get these in a cracker or off eBay. We have to jump through countless hoops before a doctor agrees to give us a prescription for hrt and testosterone blockers.

Take your head out of the bible and do a little research. The rubbish you spout is often transphobic and uncalled for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Trousers aren't male clothing in and of themselves though, no more than a kilt is a woman's skirt.

I don't personally find transvesites disgusting but I am also however, not attracted to them.

To each their own at the end of the day though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this"

Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that.

You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt.

Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this

Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that.

You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt.

Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans?

"

I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran...

I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route.

You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people...

Its reality that counts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this

Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that.

You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt.

Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans?

I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran...

I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route.

You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people...

Its reality that counts "

It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out.

I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world.

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over a year ago


"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this

Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that.

You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt.

Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans?

I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran...

I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route.

You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people...

Its reality that counts

It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out.

I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world. "

So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this

Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that.

You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt.

Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans?

I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran...

I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route.

You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people...

Its reality that counts

It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out.

I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world.

So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid"

We agree on something!!!!

She does indeed.

The doc was surprised to hear we are still so strong as so many relationships fall by the wayside when people transition.

I count myself as very lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this

Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that.

You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt.

Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans?

I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran...

I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route.

You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people...

Its reality that counts

It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out.

I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world.

So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid

We agree on something!!!!

She does indeed.

The doc was surprised to hear we are still so strong as so many relationships fall by the wayside when people transition.

I count myself as very lucky.

"

You have had your moment in the limelight tonite, so you can now finish off the bottle of wine and have sweet dreams...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc

I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ...

Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines...

However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum.....

Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this

Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that.

You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt.

Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans?

I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran...

I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route.

You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people...

Its reality that counts

It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out.

I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world.

So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid

We agree on something!!!!

She does indeed.

The doc was surprised to hear we are still so strong as so many relationships fall by the wayside when people transition.

I count myself as very lucky.

You have had your moment in the limelight tonite, so you can now finish off the bottle of wine and have sweet dreams..."

More assumptions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

let the members now have their thread concerning... Transvestites are disgusting allegedly... back, you have

exceeded your Limelight quota for

today at my expense and all is well in the world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"let the members now have their thread concerning... Transvestites are disgusting allegedly... back, you have

exceeded your Limelight quota for

today at my expense and all is well in the world

"

I think you’ve proved transvestites are transphobic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give it a rest now, ...

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west

This should be settled with an arm wrestle.

Over the Top - Trans Takeover

Think age relevant Jaeger vest tops , sweaty TGirls , sparkly pink trucks and Sammy Hagar in a sequinned gown,

Mara love , advice for impressionable young trans from an esteemed member ( no pun intended ) of the trans community who can walk walks and talk talks is great. But getting all Moses and solemnly declaring that trans people are hetero phobic is laughable. We all have/have had hetero/cis/whatever labels applied that fits your world friends , family and partners/lovers. What people are backing is we can speak up when someone looks you in the eye and calls you disgusting .

Just because that's the view they have doesn't mean they should make someone who's only enjoying a night out feel belittled and small. Just like a loving Christian who's trans herself shouldn't make all the over 6ft trans in mini skirts feel uncomfortable for doing their thing as long as they don't harm anyone;

The only advice you should give any impressionable young trans m or f is to be themselves and stand proud same as to any young person.

Bear in mind they'll probably think fu ya daft old fucker I'm off out with my mates.

Now who wants to be Stallone ...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll give the macho arm wrestling a miss, if that’s ok. Physical competition isn’t my thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a bit of a correction to something I read on this thread.

Long term medication,specifically HRT can have detrimental effects on the liver rather than the kidneys.

(there may be possible kidney damage too but it's the risk to the liver that you really want to be watching out for.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a bit of a correction to something I read on this thread.

Long term medication,specifically HRT can have detrimental effects on the liver rather than the kidneys.

(there may be possible kidney damage too but it's the risk to the liver that you really want to be watching out for.)"

I meant liver. I did read the leaflet but then just slapped the patch on my ass and got on with my day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a bit of a correction to something I read on this thread.

Long term medication,specifically HRT can have detrimental effects on the liver rather than the kidneys.

(there may be possible kidney damage too but it's the risk to the liver that you really want to be watching out for.)

I meant liver. I did read the leaflet but then just slapped the patch on my ass and got on with my day. "

Apparently the patches are less risky than pills but,they do tend to attract dirt under and around the edges which is a bugger to clean off. You just can't blummin' win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And a dodgy liver makes itself obvious by turning you yellow,,,,,or so I've heard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a bit of a correction to something I read on this thread.

Long term medication,specifically HRT can have detrimental effects on the liver rather than the kidneys.

(there may be possible kidney damage too but it's the risk to the liver that you really want to be watching out for.)

I meant liver. I did read the leaflet but then just slapped the patch on my ass and got on with my day.

Apparently the patches are less risky than pills but,they do tend to attract dirt under and around the edges which is a bugger to clean off. You just can't blummin' win. "

Talcum powder is good for stopping sticky edges getting grubby. Top tip

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Yellow .....? Blimey no need for foundation then ....top tip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yellow .....? Blimey no need for foundation then ....top tip "

Is yellow the new orange?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just like the old saying; Know your audience.

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

To be fair, some are.

Not because of the clothes they wear, but some of them eat marmite, some think Mrs Brown's Boys is funny, so wear leopard print or drink Irn Bru. TVs are people, a lot of people are disgusting.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

My wife thinks anything other than bland straight intercourse once a month to shut me up is disgusting. Oral - disgusting, swingers - perverts, etc, etc.

So in search of some sexual adventure I’m on fab and get called a ‘cheater’. Ouch!

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Maybe you could ask her to create her own profile on.here...so she could have some fun .... perhaps you bore her .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this.

I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist.

If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing?

"

Let her have her opinion as you're probably never gonna change her views. The world is changing and less and less people think like that i.e less people who hate anything which is different to them. I wouldn't call her hypocritical I'd just call her bigoted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite a lot of people think that, as is to be expected with things that aren't the norm. This new culture of sticking "phobe" and "ist" on the end of everything in order to play the down-trodden, opressed victim is becoming incredibly tedious.

Life is tough, people are mean. That won't change.

You're surely not saying that you were unware that anybody held anything but positive views about TV's when you started doing it, are you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I'm disgusting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Quite a lot of people think that, as is to be expected with things that aren't the norm. This new culture of sticking "phobe" and "ist" on the end of everything in order to play the down-trodden, opressed victim is becoming incredibly tedious.

Life is tough, people are mean. That won't change.

You're surely not saying that you were unware that anybody held anything but positive views about TV's when you started doing it, are you?"

Joking aside, got to laugh at how you defend the right to label people "disgusting" and then in the same post talk about how you yourself dislike being labeled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My wife thinks anything other than bland straight intercourse once a month to shut me up is disgusting. Oral - disgusting, swingers - perverts, etc, etc.

So in search of some sexual adventure I’m on fab and get called a ‘cheater’. Ouch!"

You have sex with her when you know she doesn't want to?????!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My wife thinks anything other than bland straight intercourse once a month to shut me up is disgusting. Oral - disgusting, swingers - perverts, etc, etc.

So in search of some sexual adventure I’m on fab and get called a ‘cheater’. Ouch!"

Good job the threads nearly ended for you eh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My wife thinks anything other than bland straight intercourse once a month to shut me up is disgusting. Oral - disgusting, swingers - perverts, etc, etc.

So in search of some sexual adventure I’m on fab and get called a ‘cheater’. Ouch!

Good job the threads nearly ended for you eh "

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