FabSwingers.com forum: Biphobia in swinging

By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

There are many profiles saying no Bisexual men ,but bisexual women are tolerated far more and most times actively sought.

Given that statistically there is now,no more risk of hiv from a bi guy ,than a straight guy.

Why do people think this Bi phobia exists ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it does unfortunately. It's mainly from straight men who think a biguy is going to go straight for his cock. If they closed their eyes they'd probably enjoy it lol.. Having said that, we have had a woman from a couple turn quite nasty once she realised I was bi. Her partner couldn't give a toss but she was quite vociferous about it. We never did meet them.

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"Yes it does unfortunately. It's mainly from straight men who think a biguy is going to go straight for his cock. If they closed their eyes they'd probably enjoy it lol.. Having said that, we have had a woman from a couple turn quite nasty once she realised I was bi. Her partner couldn't give a toss but she was quite vociferous about it. We never did meet them. "

thats interesting as i thought it was straight guy insecurity ..but it seems to come from both parties then .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

thats interesting as i thought it was straight guy insecurity ..but it seems to come from both parties then ."

I wouldn't say that generally as women are far more acceptable of bimen than straight men are but yes, it does happen.

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over a year ago

"There are many profiles saying no Bisexual men ,but bisexual women are tolerated far more and most times actively sought.

Given that statistically there is now,no more risk of hiv from a bi guy ,than a straight guy.

Why do people think this Bi phobia exists ?? "

Just posted the following on another thread as I think the condition being discussed here is mainly a lack of interpretation

Some men like bi sex fun and some men don't, it's seldom homophobic, just personal choice.

Some women like bi sex fun and some women don't, it's seldom homophobic, just personal choice.

Some men like watching two women have fun, some can take it or leave it and some do not enjoy it at all.

Some women like watching two men have fun, some can take it or leave it and some do not enjoy it at all.

Gosh but we are a complicated lot

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

probably why some women are biphobic towards men is less obvious and more interesting than why men are really ..

i have asked a lot of women over the years about whether seeing bi guys together turned them on and the figures were fairly even 50 -50 with only 3 ever saying they were indifferent.

The ones who loved it really got off on it and the ones who hated it were just as certain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i like it, just aint seen it up close and personal yet.....any offers PD lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had to happen lol...

Preference, nothing to do with 'being jumped on'

We have absolutely nothing against the honest Bi guys.. Nothing at all.

Each to and if they enjoy so be it.. who are we or anyone to tell anyone what they want.. Honesty being the key here though.. Many I know hide the fact cause of the grief they recieve or may do...

For us our preference stems more from having met and got friendly with a straight couple.. we later found out he was up the loo's behind his wifes back humping the odd dogger, codger and anyone else who'd so much as take a peek at his sad sorry dick... Now after finding this out and the following months of worry.. we just have a simple preference, yes we could be caught out just as eisily again.. we hope not but Mrs Notts hates the thought she may be slurping on some nice c*** then finding out its been poking about up some fellas chuff a few hours earlier.. call us fussy.. but thats the way it is lol..

Ohh My best friend is Bi, best man at my wedding.. on this site too.. No phobia non at all, honesty and a simple preference lol...

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

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"i like it, just aint seen it up close and personal yet.....any offers PD lol

unfortunately your barking up the wrong tree here m'dear but sure you will be inundated shortly lol

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"Had to happen lol...

Preference, nothing to do with 'being jumped on'

We have absolutely nothing against the honest Bi guys.. Nothing at all.

Each to and if they enjoy so be it.. who are we or anyone to tell anyone what they want.. Honesty being the key here though.. Many I know hide the fact cause of the grief they recieve or may do...

Ohh My best friend is Bi, best man at my wedding.. on this site too.. No phobia non at all, honesty and a simple preference lol...

cheers for that Mr Notts ...so the obvious question for Mrs Notts is ...its ok if a straight guy put it up a ladies chuff pipe a few hours before then ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1 some genuinely uncomfortable with the idea of man on man fun and that's cool and must be respected

2 some complete macho nonsense thinking we all 'limp wristed' .. I saw that on one profile and laughed... thats ignorance beyond belief to think we all like that... and as offensive as saying ' no fatties '..but that just breeding or lack of it lol.

3 some couldn't cope seeing their lady possibly getting better sex from a 'bi guy'.. makes em less macho.. that also goes with SOME of the ' no single guys brigade' and I repeat SOME.

4 some may have suffered at the hands of pervert/abusers at a younger age and that is completely understandable

5 some revel in the whole male with 2 females and their prowess.. bless em

6 some think that all gay and bi's are more risky and all shag bareback ... some don't do anal at all.... and the idea that sex in a gay sauna is shocking but sex in a swingers club is less so........ bareback happens in both !!!!!!

7 some think STD's are more widespread with BI guys... at my most recent health check I spoke to the consultant about swinging and she said at the STD clinic, their biggest challenge currently was with std's being being passed fem to fem by oral and toys.. I posted that on a forum post and didn't get 1 reply on it... but had I posted about bi guys, there would have been an outcry.....

8.some are just plain bullies and will pick on any 'different groupings'

just some ideas......

but on the whole...... I have found the majority to be fantastic and accepting and I have a lot of respect to the couples/fems who post no bi guys... least they are being honest and upfront... the same as I have bisexual to be equally honest and upfront....

It's about being able to make informed choices...

above post, no offence to any, just my humble opinion x

good post ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had to happen lol...

Preference, nothing to do with 'being jumped on'

We have absolutely nothing against the honest Bi guys.. Nothing at all.

Each to and if they enjoy so be it.. who are we or anyone to tell anyone what they want.. Honesty being the key here though.. Many I know hide the fact cause of the grief they recieve or may do...

Ohh My best friend is Bi, best man at my wedding.. on this site too.. No phobia non at all, honesty and a simple preference lol...

cheers for that Mr Notts ...so the obvious question for Mrs Notts is ...its ok if a straight guy put it up a ladies chuff pipe a few hours before then ?

It's not a guys chuff so what is the relevance of that question?

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over a year ago

Well said View

Oh and PD Chuff pipe? honestly have some decorum

Its a shit tube

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

cheers for that Mr Notts ...so the obvious question for Mrs Notts is ...its ok if a straight guy put it up a ladies chuff pipe a few hours before then ?

Not really no... but the ones we know tend not to frequent the local Loo's for casual sex.... With anyone and everyone!

Anyone who knows the story knows it well lol.. The man said he was straight, I always had a nagging doubt.. so paid for yes paid.. for an ad on another site where I suspected he was.. and bingo. He contacted, chatted via msn.. gave away lots of info.. then as the clincher (pardon the pun) drove 70 miles for gay unprotected anal with a man he'd never even so much as seen a picture of... Saw me.. face to face and buggered off (No pun intended).

No names.. still a couple on here, still says he's straight.. So left a bad taste and one we'd rather not repeat if honest... 9 months out from play, tests all very ugly.

Not for one minute suggesting all are the same.. but when you get your fingers burned playing with matches you tend not to try again eh...

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"Had to happen lol...

Preference, nothing to do with 'being jumped on'

We have absolutely nothing against the honest Bi guys.. Nothing at all.

Each to and if they enjoy so be it.. who are we or anyone to tell anyone what they want.. Honesty being the key here though.. Many I know hide the fact cause of the grief they recieve or may do...

Ohh My best friend is Bi, best man at my wedding.. on this site too.. No phobia non at all, honesty and a simple preference lol...

cheers for that Mr Notts ...so the obvious question for Mrs Notts is ...its ok if a straight guy put it up a ladies chuff pipe a few hours before then ?

It's not a guys chuff so what is the relevance of that question?"

because the possible risk of infection from any residual material is no greater, so the question leads naturally Does Mrs Notts find the nice cock less off putting if it has been up a womans arse shortly before rather than a mans ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The point we make is more about honesty..

Nothing more... Its a preference! Nothing whatsoever against anyone.. like it or lump it really lol...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just want to quote again a previous comment I made in the forum about DVP. I'm amazed how many 'straight' guys get over their bi-phobia and are quite happy to indulge, get intimately close and rub knobs with a bi guy when they are both together inside a woman.

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over a year ago

"Just want to quote again a previous comment I made in the forum about DVP. I'm amazed how many 'straight' guys get over their bi-phobia and are quite happy to indulge, get intimately close and rub knobs with a bi guy when they are both together inside a woman.

You've never seen a Twix arguing with another Twix about being in the same bag have you? Same thing hon. hehehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've never seen a Twix arguing with another Twix about being in the same bag have you? Same thing hon. hehehe

class

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've never seen a Twix arguing with another Twix about being in the same bag have you? Same thing hon. hehehe

Simple as really eh... bi word should be banished we are all opportunists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and I love the fact that so many peeps fib on profile and say they str8 ...

on the cold winter night, between the new series of 'xfactor' and ' I'm a celebrity' and there's nowt on the telly.. I love looking at the profiles where the couples say no 'Bi guys' and read the verifications and go down the list thinkingg...

def str8 , def str8 , oops bi, oops another bi, def str8 , def str8, oops I sucked him, he sucked me, def str8 ...

or the couples who say no bi guys but we go dogging..... trust me, the dogging sites rife wi the bi's lol .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah totally agree. I hate the word curious, whats so curious about it. watch some porn if ya curious.

hows yer car

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"The point we make is more about honesty..

Nothing more... Its a preference! Nothing whatsoever against anyone.. like it or lump it really lol..."

nooo i fully accept your circumstances,it must have been a nightmare ..and i accept fully why you feel how you do ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and I love the fact that so many peeps fib on profile and say they str8 ...

def str8 , def str8 , oops bi, oops another bi, def str8 , def str8, oops I sucked him, he sucked me, def str8 ...

or the couples who say no bi guys but we go dogging..... trust me, the dogging sites rife wi the bi's lol .

oh my, you have colour co-ordinated undies and bed covers. plus there pink just how cool is that

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"and I love the fact that so many peeps fib on profile and say they str8 ...

def str8 , def str8 , oops bi, oops another bi, def str8 , def str8, oops I sucked him, he sucked me, def str8 ...

or the couples who say no bi guys but we go dogging..... trust me, the dogging sites rife wi the bi's lol .

yeah thats true about the clubs too ..a guy approaches and the couple and him are simpatico and because its not a bi night they all go for it ...how they ever gonna know and how many even ask ? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol.. Well, call me a non opportunist then..

Don't go dogging, have absolutely no desire to play with another guys cock..

Am very comfortable with my sexuality have no issues if during play a guy happens to touch so long as its for the pleasure of the fem involved lol.. not gratification of himself and were still talking touch, not grope blow job wank cock rubbing or anything like lol...

In saying that, i'd still happily sit, chat drink go on the razz.. enjoy the company of a gay/bi guy.. don't see tham as any different to anyone else i'm just not sexually aroused by one.. Not that difficult to grasp surely lol...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and I love the fact that so many peeps fib on profile and say they str8 ...

def str8 , def str8 , oops bi, oops another bi, def str8 , def str8, oops I sucked him, he sucked me, def str8 ...

or the couples who say no bi guys but we go dogging..... trust me, the dogging sites rife wi the bi's lol .

yeah thats true about the clubs too ..a guy approaches and the couple and him are simpatico and because its not a bi night they all go for it ...how they ever gonna know and how many even ask ? lol"

totally agree dude, good post PD

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of us have a different approach to swinging lol..

Not all of us just go to clubs, dogging sites etc.. not all will shag the first or only peeps who happen along lol..

Hard as it may be to believe.. some of us actually try to get to know and become freinds with who we play with.. Not everyones taste.. ok but does that now make us lesser swingers then???

Ohhh well..... each to!

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over a year ago

"and I love the fact that so many peeps fib on profile and say they str8 ...

def str8 , def str8 , oops bi, oops another bi, def str8 , def str8, oops I sucked him, he sucked me, def str8 ...

or the couples who say no bi guys but we go dogging..... trust me, the dogging sites rife wi the bi's lol .

yeah thats true about the clubs too ..a guy approaches and the couple and him are simpatico and because its not a bi night they all go for it ...how they ever gonna know and how many even ask ? lol"

clubs are exactly the same... prob more conversation goes on there beforehand but none the less, you still don't know..

it's truly all about honesty.. on profiles, in conversation... you def will never know in some cases...

I am a tad camp so folks guess....

I said tad if any fecker fae the scotland room says sumit different..

lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cause i can....

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"Some of us have a different approach to swinging lol..

Not all of us just go to clubs, dogging sites etc.. not all will shag the first or only peeps who happen along lol..

Hard as it may be to believe.. some of us actually try to get to know and become freinds with who we play with.. Not everyones taste.. ok but does that now make us lesser swingers then???

Ohhh well..... each to!

i am sure there are many, with that approach,however i wonder how many leave the statement on there profile as a testament to there public sexuality,which when it suits is dropped off for the sake of expediency and the promise of an exciting time.

And how many get to know their prospective meets in a club or dogging

envioronment

just doesn't happen does it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think we even put No Bi guys...

Its not something we feel we have to put... I doubt I'd ever drop anything for the sake of a quick thrill.. Others may do, up to them... not judging anyone else, just stateing how I/we feel... Our choice it won't change anytime soon, just no desire to try.....

I'm sure many are more easily led... more liberated even, maybe some would say easier going as a result... but I can assure you lol.. were more than happy satisfied with how/who we meet and how we play.. not feeling as though were missing anything yet lol..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cause i can....

bizarre reaction but hey, takes all sorts.. wish you well ...

ps love the pic of you standing with your speedos leaning against the big phallic ... nearly as camp as mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never done dogging ... car is still bust BTW lol

I attend a club regularly where I know almost all the people there as I have chatted to them in the chat room, met many of them socially and do feel comfortable with them sexually too. A club for me is a very safe environment as it is mostly couples who attend the same one as myself xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cause i can....

bizarre reaction but hey, takes all sorts.. wish you well ...

ps love the pic of you standing with your speedos leaning against the big phallic ... nearly as camp as mine

The big phallic.. Its a feckin shower ff's pmsl.

Nothing bizzare about using the icon.. says more about you than me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

was a good post...

wishing everyone well ...

not getting into a muscle flexing rant..

xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"was a good post...

wishing everyone well ...

not getting into a muscle flexing rant..

xxxxx

Absolutely agree...... No more a chance of making me Bi that you choosing not to be...

Agreed...

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

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"I don't think we even put No Bi guys...

well no of course not Mr Notts it is your right to meet who you want and there is no crticism of your stance intended .

Swinging is one of those areas where we are allowed to validly intimate prejudice in any area we like, because at the end of the day it involves a act where "no means no" which is sacrosanct above all other considerations

we discriminate on size ,shape ,colour,even social standing (yes there is a profile like that ),so the original question really was why do some people elevate Bisexuality in men above the preferences of others,why not just leave it as a holistic decision based on all those factors one of which happens to be bisexuality .

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"was a good post...

wishing everyone well ...

not getting into a muscle flexing rant..

xxxxx

thanks for the contribution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cause i can....

bizarre reaction but hey, takes all sorts.. wish you well ...

ps love the pic of you standing with your speedos leaning against the big phallic ... nearly as camp as mine

forget the big phalic, the him n her pics of bottoms up are equally appealing to me xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cause i can....

bizarre reaction but hey, takes all sorts.. wish you well ...

ps love the pic of you standing with your speedos leaning against the big phallic ... nearly as camp as mine

forget the big phalic, the him n her pics of bottoms up are equally appealing to me xxxxx"

yu dirty, dirty bi girl...... down girl lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

forget the big phalic, the him n her pics of bottoms up are equally appealing to me xxxxx"

Happily show you close up sometime... anytime, well.. be rude not to lol..

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over a year ago

I agree the word bi curious is a bit naff. But there should be a word for those of us who have only just stepped onto that path... bi - possibly maybe?

From what i hear its the straight guys who mail other straight guys for sex that are the pain in the ass.

I do think alot of men still worry that a bi -sexual man will rape them roughly in a dirty car park. But they are usually the men who are still new to swinging. Us veterans have a bit more sense

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over a year ago

forget the big phalic, the him n her pics of bottoms up are equally appealing to me xxxxx

Happily show you close up sometime... anytime, well.. be rude not to lol..

12 inch strap on or tongue? I am bi I have both

xxx

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over a year ago

From what i hear its the straight guys who mail other straight guys for sex that are the pain in the ass.

I do think alot of men still worry that a bi -sexual man will rape them roughly in a dirty car park. But they are usually the men who are still new to swinging. Us veterans have a bit more sense

you are so spot on, honestly you are.

it is so sad when the bi guys on here message str8 guys asking for sex.. they create the blooming issues and put our fight for equality in swinging back..

it is because many have migrated from the most well know GAY site, as it is prob 60% timewasters/pic collectors as there is no verification process.

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over a year ago

Cause i can....

bizarre reaction but hey, takes all sorts.. wish you well ...

ps love the pic of you standing with your speedos leaning against the big phallic ... nearly as camp as mine

goes off to look at the pitbull standingt in his speedo's (which shud be banned btw) next to the phallic symbol. i think mr notts is a closet bi myself

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over a year ago

"7 some think STD's are more widespread with BI guys... at my most recent health check I spoke to the consultant about swinging and she said at the STD clinic, their biggest challenge currently was with std's being being passed fem to fem by oral and toys.. I posted that on a forum post and didn't get 1 reply on it... but had I posted about bi guys, there would have been an outcry.....

8.some are just plain bullies and will pick on any 'different groupings'"

I don’t think it has as much to do with males being bisexual as others here would like to believe, more to do with people being male phobic, be they bisexual or straight - the evidence for my thoughts are all around us:

NO SINGLE MALES - NO BI MALES shouted in as masculine a voice as possible by couples throughout the site.

As the OP states this is not the case when applied to bisexual women and now that the statistics ‘may’ have swung with the bisexual females being high risk - do you really think that there will be any change in swing trends. If they do I have the shovel for the rocking horse crap.

If this point raised by VIEW is in fact the case, there are many here that should be running for their pc and changing their preferences soon, and I await the attacks on bisexual women that continue to enjoy unprotected sex with each other.

Just a thought - like your style VIEW that was a corker you slipped in there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lot of strait guys interested in bi/gay issues here.

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over a year ago

thanks

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

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"Lot of strait guys interested in bi/gay issues here. "

well it beats talking about what coloured pencil you used at school and its a subject which is a potential area of prejudice so why not explore it

so why not eh

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over a year ago

"Lot of strait guys interested in bi/gay issues here.

well it beats talking about what coloured pencil you used at school and its a subject which is a potential area of prejudice so why not explore it

so why not eh

saying nothing now about PD exploring

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"Lot of strait guys interested in bi/gay issues here.

well it beats talking about what coloured pencil you used at school and its a subject which is a potential area of prejudice so why not explore it

so why not eh

saying nothing now about PD exploring

Its no issue to me ,i know my sexual landscape really well and dont need to explore it any further ...xx

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over a year ago

"Lot of strait guys interested in bi/gay issues here.

well it beats talking about what coloured pencil you used at school and its a subject which is a potential area of prejudice so why not explore it

so why not eh

saying nothing now about PD exploring

Its no issue to me ,i know my sexual landscape really well and dont need to explore it any further ...xx"

wanna guided tour of my landscape?

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By *leasureDome OP Man
over a year ago

all over the place

"Lot of strait guys interested in bi/gay issues here.

well it beats talking about what coloured pencil you used at school and its a subject which is a potential area of prejudice so why not explore it

so why not eh

saying nothing now about PD exploring

Its no issue to me ,i know my sexual landscape really well and dont need to explore it any further ...xx

wanna guided tour of my landscape?

not if it hurts .....LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" i think mr notts is a closet bi myself

If it meant shaggin the boots.. its almost worth consideration lol....

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over a year ago

goes off to look at the pitbull standingt in his speedo's (which shud be banned btw) next to the phallic symbol. "

My speedos... my holiday, my tan.... and I will always wear what I like lol.. not a crowd follower myself... Wooooof

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over a year ago

"There are many profiles saying no Bisexual men ,but bisexual women are tolerated far more and most times actively sought.

Given that statistically there is now,no more risk of hiv from a bi guy ,than a straight guy.

Why do people think this Bi phobia exists ?? "

because there are some ignorant twats about????

just a wild guess.

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over a year ago

goes off to look at the pitbull standingt in his speedo's (which shud be banned btw) next to the phallic symbol.

My speedos... my holiday, my tan.... and I will always wear what I like lol.. not a crowd follower myself... Wooooof

just look again i defo think ya a closet bi

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over a year ago

cheers for that Mr Notts ...so the obvious question for Mrs Notts is ...its ok if a straight guy put it up a ladies chuff pipe a few hours before then ?

Not really no... but the ones we know tend not to frequent the local Loo's for casual sex.... With anyone and everyone!

No names.. still a couple on here, still says he's straight.. So left a bad taste and one we'd rather not repeat if honest... 9 months out from play, tests all very ugly.

Not for one minute suggesting all are the same.. but when you get your fingers burned playing with matches you tend not to try again eh..."
rob ere ...notts you are so true in what you say 100% and i mean 110%..

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your all a bunch of poofs anyway

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over a year ago

"your all a bunch of poofs anyway

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you packing again ..xxx u

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over a year ago

"your all a bunch of poofs anyway

Like you...poof and your gone lol

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over a year ago

cheers for that Mr Notts ...so the obvious question for Mrs Notts is ...its ok if a straight guy put it up a ladies chuff pipe a few hours before then ?

Not really no... but the ones we know tend not to frequent the local Loo's for casual sex.... With anyone and everyone!

No names.. still a couple on here, still says he's straight.. So left a bad taste and one we'd rather not repeat if honest... 9 months out from play, tests all very ugly.

Not for one minute suggesting all are the same.. but when you get your fingers burned playing with matches you tend not to try again eh...rob ere ...notts you are so true in what you say 100% and i mean 110%..

Just how we feel mate... Nothing more

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over a year ago

"your all a bunch of poofs anyway

Like you...poof and your gone lol

awww u dont want me gone

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"your all a bunch of poofs anyway

Like you...poof and your gone lol

awww u dont want me gone

Nahhh Loves ya too much xx

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over a year ago

"your all a bunch of poofs anyway

thanks for your kind words .....

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