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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I know it's a long shot but I could do with advice about my car.

The "intelligent power distribution module board" has failed in my car, it's dead.

It's a 55 plate Nissan Micra so not worth a huge amount of money but in the 8 years we've had it this is the first time it's broken down. The car is sentimental to me and I'd rather spend a good chunk on fixing it than getting a loan for a newer car.

My question is am I looking at 500/1000/1500 to fix it? (Obviously an estimate)

And does this part need any sort of programming once fitted? Is it a case of transferring all the wires etc to the new one?

I know it's a long shot on someone being able to offer some advice but nothing ventured and all that.. plus I can't meet with no car!!!

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

Did the person who diagnosed the fault not give you an estimate to get it repaired?

The best thing to do is ask around local friends for a friendly mechanic they trust and get him to take a look.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

A few on flebay from £28 second hand up to £285 brand new

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Did the person who diagnosed the fault not give you an estimate to get it repaired?

The best thing to do is ask around local friends for a friendly mechanic they trust and get him to take a look."

It was breakdown guy, he can't fix it. Needs an auto electrician and there are none where I live, even the local garage couldn't think of someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know it's a long shot but I could do with advice about my car.

The "intelligent power distribution module board" has failed in my car, it's dead.

It's a 55 plate Nissan Micra so not worth a huge amount of money but in the 8 years we've had it this is the first time it's broken down. The car is sentimental to me and I'd rather spend a good chunk on fixing it than getting a loan for a newer car.

My question is am I looking at 500/1000/1500 to fix it? (Obviously an estimate)

And does this part need any sort of programming once fitted? Is it a case of transferring all the wires etc to the new one?

I know it's a long shot on someone being able to offer some advice but nothing ventured and all that.. plus I can't meet with no car!!!

"

Be lookin about a 1750 all in for it

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By *lmostthereMan
over a year ago

Southampton

Is that the fuse box? Couple of hundred for a new genuine part I would say plus a couple of hours labour.

This is guess work (ish) on my part.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A few on flebay from £28 second hand up to £285 brand new "

Thank you, yes we've looked and will buy a new one but wonder how much labour will cost etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know it's a long shot but I could do with advice about my car.

The "intelligent power distribution module board" has failed in my car, it's dead.

It's a 55 plate Nissan Micra so not worth a huge amount of money but in the 8 years we've had it this is the first time it's broken down. The car is sentimental to me and I'd rather spend a good chunk on fixing it than getting a loan for a newer car.

My question is am I looking at 500/1000/1500 to fix it? (Obviously an estimate)

And does this part need any sort of programming once fitted? Is it a case of transferring all the wires etc to the new one?

I know it's a long shot on someone being able to offer some advice but nothing ventured and all that.. plus I can't meet with no car!!!

Be lookin about a 1750 all in for it "

Did you shake your head while drawing air in between your teeth as you came up with that quote

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is that the fuse box? Couple of hundred for a new genuine part I would say plus a couple of hours labour.

This is guess work (ish) on my part. "

It's a second fuse box thingy under the headlamp but it's crawling with loads of wires

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I know it's a long shot but I could do with advice about my car.

The "intelligent power distribution module board" has failed in my car, it's dead.

It's a 55 plate Nissan Micra so not worth a huge amount of money but in the 8 years we've had it this is the first time it's broken down. The car is sentimental to me and I'd rather spend a good chunk on fixing it than getting a loan for a newer car.

My question is am I looking at 500/1000/1500 to fix it? (Obviously an estimate)

And does this part need any sort of programming once fitted? Is it a case of transferring all the wires etc to the new one?

I know it's a long shot on someone being able to offer some advice but nothing ventured and all that.. plus I can't meet with no car!!!

Be lookin about a 1750 all in for it

Did you shake your head while drawing air in between your teeth as you came up with that quote "

made me laugh!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I know it's a long shot but I could do with advice about my car.

The "intelligent power distribution module board" has failed in my car, it's dead.

It's a 55 plate Nissan Micra so not worth a huge amount of money but in the 8 years we've had it this is the first time it's broken down. The car is sentimental to me and I'd rather spend a good chunk on fixing it than getting a loan for a newer car.

My question is am I looking at 500/1000/1500 to fix it? (Obviously an estimate)

And does this part need any sort of programming once fitted? Is it a case of transferring all the wires etc to the new one?

I know it's a long shot on someone being able to offer some advice but nothing ventured and all that.. plus I can't meet with no car!!!

Be lookin about a 1750 all in for it

Did you shake your head while drawing air in between your teeth as you came up with that quote

made me laugh!"

Who has diagnosed it ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I know it's a long shot but I could do with advice about my car.

The "intelligent power distribution module board" has failed in my car, it's dead.

It's a 55 plate Nissan Micra so not worth a huge amount of money but in the 8 years we've had it this is the first time it's broken down. The car is sentimental to me and I'd rather spend a good chunk on fixing it than getting a loan for a newer car.

My question is am I looking at 500/1000/1500 to fix it? (Obviously an estimate)

And does this part need any sort of programming once fitted? Is it a case of transferring all the wires etc to the new one?

I know it's a long shot on someone being able to offer some advice but nothing ventured and all that.. plus I can't meet with no car!!!

Be lookin about a 1750 all in for it

Did you shake your head while drawing air in between your teeth as you came up with that quote

made me laugh!

Who has diagnosed it ? "

The breakdown guy who plugged it into his machine thingy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know it's a long shot but I could do with advice about my car.

The "intelligent power distribution module board" has failed in my car, it's dead.

It's a 55 plate Nissan Micra so not worth a huge amount of money but in the 8 years we've had it this is the first time it's broken down. The car is sentimental to me and I'd rather spend a good chunk on fixing it than getting a loan for a newer car.

My question is am I looking at 500/1000/1500 to fix it? (Obviously an estimate)

And does this part need any sort of programming once fitted? Is it a case of transferring all the wires etc to the new one?

I know it's a long shot on someone being able to offer some advice but nothing ventured and all that.. plus I can't meet with no car!!!

Be lookin about a 1750 all in for it

Did you shake your head while drawing air in between your teeth as you came up with that quote

made me laugh!

Who has diagnosed it ?

The breakdown guy who plugged it into his machine thingy"

No i didnt shake my head as i sucked in air

But i think youl find i wont be far off with that qoute, as the wiring loom will need work tats about 8 hrs work an when you look at labour costs nearly 70 an hour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then vat that puts ya at about 1400

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

This was a safety recall, the dealer may be able to do it for free

https://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/recalls/recalls.jsp?modelID=A0&makeId=D0&makeName=Nissan&modelName=Micra&lowIndex=3

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

have you been on any nissan owners group forums asking for help advice ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This was a safety recall, the dealer may be able to do it for free

https://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/recalls/recalls.jsp?modelID=A0&makeId=D0&makeName=Nissan&modelName=Micra&lowIndex=3"

Omg!! You are amazing! I will be on the phone tomorrow! Currently searching Nissan dealership near me

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"have you been on any nissan owners group forums asking for help advice ?"

No but good idea thank you

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By *oyce69Man
over a year ago

Driffield

It looks like it is all plug and play, so should only take an hour or so..

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

Have you tried ctrl alt delete

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By *entlemanDMan
over a year ago

Fareham


"Did you shake your head while drawing air in between your teeth as you came up with that quote "

Has to include the phrase "what cowboy have you had working on this?" to be a genuine quote too

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Cars don't have multiply wires going into multiple holes, you may not be able to see it but I put money on it being one or two multiplugs into the unit.

Now as its behind the headlight damp could be an issue. So I'd possibly remove said unit & put it in the airing cupboard for a couple of days & spray the multiplugs with contact cleaner.

Best disconnect the battery before removal though.

I've bought a few cars (including a BMW 750iL with seven onboard computers!) With leccy gremlins & damp or corroded terminals have usually been the issue.

Not saying it'll work but if its not driveable anyway a couple of days to try this out won't hurt.

Good luck

S

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Cars don't have multiply wires going into multiple holes, you may not be able to see it but I put money on it being one or two multiplugs into the unit.

Now as its behind the headlight damp could be an issue. So I'd possibly remove said unit & put it in the airing cupboard for a couple of days & spray the multiplugs with contact cleaner.

Best disconnect the battery before removal though.

I've bought a few cars (including a BMW 750iL with seven onboard computers!) With leccy gremlins & damp or corroded terminals have usually been the issue.

Not saying it'll work but if its not driveable anyway a couple of days to try this out won't hurt.

Good luck

S"

I did this for literally pence when I had a passat and it worked great

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"Cars don't have multiply wires going into multiple holes, you may not be able to see it but I put money on it being one or two multiplugs into the unit.

Now as its behind the headlight damp could be an issue. So I'd possibly remove said unit & put it in the airing cupboard for a couple of days & spray the multiplugs with contact cleaner.

Best disconnect the battery before removal though.

I've bought a few cars (including a BMW 750iL with seven onboard computers!) With leccy gremlins & damp or corroded terminals have usually been the issue.

Not saying it'll work but if its not driveable anyway a couple of days to try this out won't hurt.

Good luck

S"

This

Do not put all your faith in the diagnostics machine. They cant diagnose if something is dead, just that there is some sort of issue concerning the particular system/component. That issue COULD be a dead component but it could equally be a loose wire, bad earth, corroded connector, short circuit, power being backfed from a different faulty component, blown fuse/relay.

Do you know what fault code the diagnostic machine found?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Cars don't have multiply wires going into multiple holes, you may not be able to see it but I put money on it being one or two multiplugs into the unit.

Now as its behind the headlight damp could be an issue. So I'd possibly remove said unit & put it in the airing cupboard for a couple of days & spray the multiplugs with contact cleaner.

Best disconnect the battery before removal though.

I've bought a few cars (including a BMW 750iL with seven onboard computers!) With leccy gremlins & damp or corroded terminals have usually been the issue.

Not saying it'll work but if its not driveable anyway a couple of days to try this out won't hurt.

Good luck

S

This

Do not put all your faith in the diagnostics machine. They cant diagnose if something is dead, just that there is some sort of issue concerning the particular system/component. That issue COULD be a dead component but it could equally be a loose wire, bad earth, corroded connector, short circuit, power being backfed from a different faulty component, blown fuse/relay.

Do you know what fault code the diagnostic machine found?"

U1000

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

If you don't get anywhere with the dealership google "click mechanic"

If you know what the fault is you can book a mobile mechanic to come out and fix it. If you don't know whatthey fault is you can book someone to come and do diagnostics.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Don’t buy off EBay

You will pay for an empty plastic box or one full of components but they won’t be the part that you need.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thank you all for your help. I do appreciate it.

I'm going to ask Nissan tomorrow if we are eligible for the recall fix to be done, as it may be the problem, then get the car recovered there as breakdown owe us a tow, even if that doesn't fix the problem, it will narrow it down and it will be free of charge. I've had some very useful info via pm. Thank you everyone.

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By *nd-DCouple
over a year ago

portsmouth


"Thank you all for your help. I do appreciate it.

I'm going to ask Nissan tomorrow if we are eligible for the recall fix to be done, as it may be the problem, then get the car recovered there as breakdown owe us a tow, even if that doesn't fix the problem, it will narrow it down and it will be free of charge. I've had some very useful info via pm. Thank you everyone. "

Who was the breakdown guy ?

Might be worth getting a second opinion.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

A goole search of " replacing a micra intelligent power distribution module board" came up with an American forum, the guy on there said it takes about 30 to 45 minutes to replace...

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"Cars don't have multiply wires going into multiple holes, you may not be able to see it but I put money on it being one or two multiplugs into the unit.

Now as its behind the headlight damp could be an issue. So I'd possibly remove said unit & put it in the airing cupboard for a couple of days & spray the multiplugs with contact cleaner.

Best disconnect the battery before removal though.

I've bought a few cars (including a BMW 750iL with seven onboard computers!) With leccy gremlins & damp or corroded terminals have usually been the issue.

Not saying it'll work but if its not driveable anyway a couple of days to try this out won't hurt.

Good luck

S

This

Do not put all your faith in the diagnostics machine. They cant diagnose if something is dead, just that there is some sort of issue concerning the particular system/component. That issue COULD be a dead component but it could equally be a loose wire, bad earth, corroded connector, short circuit, power being backfed from a different faulty component, blown fuse/relay.

Do you know what fault code the diagnostic machine found?

U1000"

No other codes?

what actually went wrong with your car? has it cut out whilst driving or not restarted after being parked up? was it running fine before hand?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thank you all for your help. I do appreciate it.

I'm going to ask Nissan tomorrow if we are eligible for the recall fix to be done, as it may be the problem, then get the car recovered there as breakdown owe us a tow, even if that doesn't fix the problem, it will narrow it down and it will be free of charge. I've had some very useful info via pm. Thank you everyone.

Who was the breakdown guy ?

Might be worth getting a second opinion. "

Breakdown guy from the people we have cover with.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Cars don't have multiply wires going into multiple holes, you may not be able to see it but I put money on it being one or two multiplugs into the unit.

Now as its behind the headlight damp could be an issue. So I'd possibly remove said unit & put it in the airing cupboard for a couple of days & spray the multiplugs with contact cleaner.

Best disconnect the battery before removal though.

I've bought a few cars (including a BMW 750iL with seven onboard computers!) With leccy gremlins & damp or corroded terminals have usually been the issue.

Not saying it'll work but if its not driveable anyway a couple of days to try this out won't hurt.

Good luck

S

This

Do not put all your faith in the diagnostics machine. They cant diagnose if something is dead, just that there is some sort of issue concerning the particular system/component. That issue COULD be a dead component but it could equally be a loose wire, bad earth, corroded connector, short circuit, power being backfed from a different faulty component, blown fuse/relay.

Do you know what fault code the diagnostic machine found?

U1000

No other codes?

what actually went wrong with your car? has it cut out whilst driving or not restarted after being parked up? was it running fine before hand?

"

Cut out a few seconds after setting off, won't restart, no power to anything, no ignition, nada. Been running fine for 8 years and just boom.. Dead. It's been well looked after, serviced every year, new battery.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

No other codes on the sheet we were given

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"No other codes on the sheet we were given"

U1000 is just a no communication code, take it to someone with Nissan Consult and get it read properly.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"No other codes on the sheet we were given

U1000 is just a no communication code, take it to someone with Nissan Consult and get it read properly. "

Yeah, its a very general fault which could be a wide range of issues.

Definately get a proper diagnosis before you start having parts changed or it could get expensive and frustrating. Nissan diagnostics can go more in depth than the universal ones breakdown companies use.

I think there is a main fuse/fusable link for the power input for that system which would be worth investigating but even if it is blown you still need to know why and prevent it blowing again. I`m not sure where it would be located on your car (or even if it definately has one) but i will try and find out. Its not one of the normal blade fuses like in the fusebox, but you should probably check all of them as well.

It probably isnt the answer to your prayers but its easy to eliminate from the list of potential problems.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan

There is a fuse on the wiring/connection to the battery positive terminal which are known to corrode and fail. This is what it looks like -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Fusible-Fuse-Link-Assy-for-Nissan-Micra-K12-Note-E11E/192353187016?fits=Car+Make%3ANissan%7CModel%3AMicra&hash=item2cc924b4c8:g:MoYAAOSw4T5XHkAO

They don`t always look blown though so need a thorough inspection and maybe testing with a multimeter.

There is also a fuse box just in front of the battery. Under the cover you should see a fuse like this -

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Micra-Genuine-40-Amp-X-3-Cooler-Fan-Ignition-Fuse-Green/132030741296?hash=item1ebda53b30:g:6KoAAOSwnHZYTZmk

It is a multifuse and one of the connections inside is for the ignition and can cause the car not to start. I doubt it would cause the whole car to lose power though so doesn`t really fit with your problem.

The battery fusible link is where i would be checking first. They are £40+ pounds to replace which is obviously a lot of money to waste if it simply blows again, but, they are known to fail just due to them becoming corroded. You will have to make a judgement call whether to just replace it or investigate for something else causing it to blow. Maybe you will get one from the scrap yard so you havent lost £40+ if it goes again but obviously you will have to be sure that the one from the scrapyard isnt duff.

Don`t get your hopes up that this is the problem with your car but it certainly could be.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No other codes on the sheet we were given

U1000 is just a no communication code, take it to someone with Nissan Consult and get it read properly.

Yeah, its a very general fault which could be a wide range of issues.

Definately get a proper diagnosis before you start having parts changed or it could get expensive and frustrating. Nissan diagnostics can go more in depth than the universal ones breakdown companies use.

I think there is a main fuse/fusable link for the power input for that system which would be worth investigating but even if it is blown you still need to know why and prevent it blowing again. I`m not sure where it would be located on your car (or even if it definately has one) but i will try and find out. Its not one of the normal blade fuses like in the fusebox, but you should probably check all of them as well.

It probably isnt the answer to your prayers but its easy to eliminate from the list of potential problems."

I've phoned Nissan and was told the prices for getting it diagnosed even then it may not give a definitive answer and would then be trial and error finding the problem. I don't have time for that. I live in a rural area, the nearest Nissan dealership is an hour and a half drive, the nearest scrap yard is a 45 min drive, I have no car to get there. It would take me over an hour just to walk to and from the nearest shop!

I'm relying on family to ferry me to work and I hate being dependent on others.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"No other codes on the sheet we were given

U1000 is just a no communication code, take it to someone with Nissan Consult and get it read properly.

Yeah, its a very general fault which could be a wide range of issues.

Definately get a proper diagnosis before you start having parts changed or it could get expensive and frustrating. Nissan diagnostics can go more in depth than the universal ones breakdown companies use.

I think there is a main fuse/fusable link for the power input for that system which would be worth investigating but even if it is blown you still need to know why and prevent it blowing again. I`m not sure where it would be located on your car (or even if it definately has one) but i will try and find out. Its not one of the normal blade fuses like in the fusebox, but you should probably check all of them as well.

It probably isnt the answer to your prayers but its easy to eliminate from the list of potential problems.

I've phoned Nissan and was told the prices for getting it diagnosed even then it may not give a definitive answer and would then be trial and error finding the problem. I don't have time for that. I live in a rural area, the nearest Nissan dealership is an hour and a half drive, the nearest scrap yard is a 45 min drive, I have no car to get there. It would take me over an hour just to walk to and from the nearest shop!

I'm relying on family to ferry me to work and I hate being dependent on others.

"

Tbh, if they are saying it is trail and error you should stay away from them anyway because they are obviously just going to change parts without confirming what the machine is telling them.

Start by checking the fuse on the battery, you can do this for free - this video will show what you are looking at

https://youtu.be/PSgtQ7d58SA

If the fuse looks fine get someone to confirm it with a multimeter and then use the multimeter to check the wiring to the IPDM and see if there is power going in and coming out of it.(this is what the nissan dealer should be doing before they start blindly following the diagnosis and changing parts because the machine said so.)

If then at this point you are struggling to pinpoint anything you will need to get the expert in and your purse out. Join a nissan/micra forum or group on facebook to try and find someone with the right knowledge and nissan code reader who is a little more down to earth with their prices.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan

Another vid showing and explaining the battery fuse problem.

https://youtu.be/4BzLNYX9NFo

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it. "

S

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By *lmostthereMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it. "

Huzzah. Result!

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it. "

bet that's a relief! Electrical problems can be a nightmare but it always pays to check the simple stuff first.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it.

bet that's a relief! Electrical problems can be a nightmare but it always pays to check the simple stuff first. "

Such a relief! Thank you. X

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it.

bet that's a relief! Electrical problems can be a nightmare but it always pays to check the simple stuff first.

Such a relief! Thank you. X"

You're welcome. I like to make myself useful sometimes. Did you get the fuse from Nissan? £30 is cheaper than I was expecting. X

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it.

bet that's a relief! Electrical problems can be a nightmare but it always pays to check the simple stuff first.

Such a relief! Thank you. X

You're welcome. I like to make myself useful sometimes. Did you get the fuse from Nissan? £30 is cheaper than I was expecting. X"

I dunno, Somewhere in London off eBay? But yeah a few pence under £30! Made up!

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it.

bet that's a relief! Electrical problems can be a nightmare but it always pays to check the simple stuff first.

Such a relief! Thank you. X

You're welcome. I like to make myself useful sometimes. Did you get the fuse from Nissan? £30 is cheaper than I was expecting. X

I dunno, Somewhere in London off eBay? But yeah a few pence under £30! Made up! "

Winner! Still a lot of money for a fuse but a lot less than what it could have cost. X

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The car is fixed temporarily until a new (£30) part comes!! Thank you to everyone who helped me in my time of need, I very much appreciate it.

bet that's a relief! Electrical problems can be a nightmare but it always pays to check the simple stuff first.

Such a relief! Thank you. X

You're welcome. I like to make myself useful sometimes. Did you get the fuse from Nissan? £30 is cheaper than I was expecting. X

I dunno, Somewhere in London off eBay? But yeah a few pence under £30! Made up!

Winner! Still a lot of money for a fuse but a lot less than what it could have cost. X"

Fuck yeah! I was ready for scrapping it!

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