FabSwingers.com forum: I'm Only Fecking Building a St Andrew Cross on Paper Wallss

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So here it is I have paramount walls..Which is basically paper and chalk walls.

But I fancy a cross without the actual "cross" just all the anchor points.

Here has been the problem as I don't want the fecking wall to come down on me, and anchor points are no good with just a few plasterboard screws..so any tips will be welcome

PS all hooks have to come out quickly and go back in quickly.

Get your creative juices flowing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Find the studs

*i bet that's not the last time you've heard that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Find the studs

*i bet that's not the last time you've heard that

Ah but paramount walls don't have a frame inside them...two plasterboardscrews and like egg boxes in between.

Not a student in sight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put the hooks into the ceiling and floor as close to the wall as possible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Might need to make it freestanding. Pain in the arse, in the wrong way, but it would save a wall being ruined

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

Put a large wooden panel up that’s a big enough area to be fastened to the wall securely.

Then put the anchor points into that wooden panel.

To disguise it you can paint it a feature colour, put pictures on it etc

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

Never tried a St Andrews cross..

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By *osmosgirlWoman
over a year ago

Wetherby

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

"Might need to make it freestanding. Pain in the arse, in the wrong way, but it would save a wall being ruined"

Google does seem to show a lot that are freestanding..

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

drill a hole at the various points and inject a filler into each of the "egg box" pockets, then leave to set, you'll then have firmer anchoring points

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Put the hooks into the ceiling and floor as close to the wall as possible "

No as I want a collar hook and a waist pair of hooks....cant have the feckers wriggling

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Might need to make it freestanding. Pain in the arse, in the wrong way, but it would save a wall being ruined"

Ah but I've bought a big mirror for when not in use...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Never tried a St Andrews cross..

How far away are you?

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By *icelymarkedplusoneCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

How about 'acquiring' a free standing clothes rack from a shop? Take wheels off and they are quite sturdy tubular steel. Ok it will need some kind of raised base but when not in use it's disguised as either a room feature - cover it in fairy lights and a seat under it, or put it to use for clothes. No drilling into walls

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Might need to make it freestanding. Pain in the arse, in the wrong way, but it would save a wall being ruined

Google does seem to show a lot that are freestanding.."

There's a few images of ones on Google image. On a quick skim of a Google search, I can't find any that are giving a tutorial on how to make one, but looking at images, it might be easy enough to do if you have some good basic carpentry skills

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

move house

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to? "

Nah I'd get stuck in the room...I need refreshments and the sub would be blocking my exit

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

"Never tried a St Andrews cross..

How far away are you?

South east

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to?

Nah I'd get stuck in the room...I need refreshments and the sub would be blocking my exit

Get another one to pass you them through the gap?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Never tried a St Andrews cross..

How far away are you?

South east

I could arrange a weekend

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to?

Nah I'd get stuck in the room...I need refreshments and the sub would be blocking my exit

Get another one to pass you them through the gap?"

Are you offering yourself?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How about 'acquiring' a free standing clothes rack from a shop? Take wheels off and they are quite sturdy tubular steel. Ok it will need some kind of raised base but when not in use it's disguised as either a room feature - cover it in fairy lights and a seat under it, or put it to use for clothes. No drilling into walls

No my bedrooms to small for anymore furniture sadly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to?

Nah I'd get stuck in the room...I need refreshments and the sub would be blocking my exit

Get another one to pass you them through the gap?"

Lmao

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"move house

Bugger that I love where I live..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Might need to make it freestanding. Pain in the arse, in the wrong way, but it would save a wall being ruined

Google does seem to show a lot that are freestanding..

Here's where I'm at.

On hook in top left hand side of doorframe another at same height through wall around 4ft away secured with a eye bolt....right through wall with a 4" square plate on other side of walk. Picture will hide it on other side.

Two eye screws on skirting boards.

A collar eye screw in the only secure part of walk which has a door frame on the other side.

And two waist high eye blots in the board with heavy duty metal plasterboard plugs in.

All improvement ideas welcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get a nice solid bed that you fix anchor points to and tip it on its end when the occasion requires.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Get a nice solid bed that you fix anchor points to and tip it on its end when the occasion requires."

Bugger that....that's where I store all my fetish gear in the big bloody drawers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How can you have a secure part of wall with a door frame on the other side?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How can you have a secure part of wall with a door frame on the other side?"

The side of the landing door butt's up to the said bedroom wall....giving me 1 4"strip of wood built into wall

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to?

Nah I'd get stuck in the room...I need refreshments and the sub would be blocking my exit

Get another one to pass you them through the gap?

Are you offering yourself?

Haha I've never been dommed by a lady. Could be a lot of fun x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to?

Nah I'd get stuck in the room...I need refreshments and the sub would be blocking my exit

Get another one to pass you them through the gap?

Are you offering yourself?

Haha I've never been dommed by a lady. Could be a lot of fun x "

Well I'm more of a layde lol but there could be another lady to assist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I would either take the paper wall out and put a new study wall up or, I would build a stud wall with in your bedroom. You would only loose 5 inches of room and might save any potentially embarrassing or life altering situations. It would only take a couple of days.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Personally, I would either take the paper wall out and put a new study wall up or, I would build a stud wall with in your bedroom. You would only loose 5 inches of room and might save any potentially embarrassing or life altering situations. It would only take a couple of days."

Cheers mate but that seems too big of a job and the 5" is a little too much when space is at a premium

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

Get a builder in to do, and supervise in full gear and whip in hand, you never know, they might even pay for the materials...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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you won't see bugger all when the blindfold goes on

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Get a builder in to do, and supervise in full gear and whip in hand, you never know, they might even pay for the materials...

You know any lady builders?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you not have a convenient doorframe you can use to anchor it to?

Nah I'd get stuck in the room...I need refreshments and the sub would be blocking my exit

Get another one to pass you them through the gap?

Are you offering yourself?

Haha I've never been dommed by a lady. Could be a lot of fun x

Well I'm more of a layde lol but there could be another lady to assist

Ooooooo you're lady enough for me x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah the return of the 70s ,I suggest tackling this in flares and a cheese cloth t-shirt

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

When they built they walls, they should have used strips of timber between each plasterboard sheet, to give a tongue and groove effect to lock each one to its neighbour. They aren't very thick or wide, but they should take a screw.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"When they built they walls, they should have used strips of timber between each plasterboard sheet, to give a tongue and groove effect to lock each one to its neighbour. They aren't very thick or wide, but they should take a screw."

I don't think they did....but I might have to invest in a stud detector just in case

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just go to a club rather than mess about with your home.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just go to a club rather than mess about with your home. "

Nah there's something special about having your own...not a big club person as yet but that may change soon

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

Is it going to be all glittery

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it going to be all glittery

It should have a good glow on it

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

Dont forget the spare hook to hang ya bag

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Dont forget the spare hook to hang ya bag"

I've a fecking butter plug just for that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors. "

I'll get you round

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

"How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors.

I'll get you round

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Dont Rachael its a trick we wont see you again

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors.

I'll get you round

Dont Rachael its a trick we wont see you again "

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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Put a couple of shouldered 8mm woodscrew eyebolts into the joists of the cieling as close to the wall as possible and attach 6mm steel ropes from the cross to the eyebolts (carabiners at the end of the ropes will allow easy detachment, can get them made by a chandler)

The cross will then hang from the cieling, line the back of the cross with some rubberised foam to protect the wall and prevent the cross moving once your sub is securely in place. The

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Put a couple of shouldered 8mm woodscrew eyebolts into the joists of the cieling as close to the wall as possible and attach 6mm steel ropes from the cross to the eyebolts (carabiners at the end of the ropes will allow easy detachment, can get them made by a chandler)

The cross will then hang from the cieling, line the back of the cross with some rubberised foam to protect the wall and prevent the cross moving once your sub is securely in place. The "

You've given this section thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors.

I'll get you round

Dont Rachael its a trick we wont see you again

I’m over my sub phase. I’m strong enuf now.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Is it up yet

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors.

I'll get you round

Dont Rachael its a trick we wont see you again

I’m over my sub phase. I’m strong enuf now.

Strong enough to build them walls I hope

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it up yet

Bloody hell I'd need viagra to get it up any quicker lol

Awaiting a few different screws and bolts to come to finish it off.

But always open to new ideas

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ah the return of the 70s ,I suggest tackling this in flares and a cheese cloth t-shirt

Flares my arse...best little hotpants on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors.

I'll get you round

Dont Rachael its a trick we wont see you again

I’m over my sub phase. I’m strong enuf now.

Strong enough to build them walls I hope

I do it every day so, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an alternative hooks that go over and under the door between the frame? I have used three 2 meter lengths of rope single column tie on both ankles. Single or double column on hands. Large knot on the end of the ropes. Leg ones slip under door, wrist one over the door, you could add a rope coller to go over the door. It is a slight fiddle to line them up. But works!

Alternatively I have seen a kit that does the same with straps and had a waist strap.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"Is it up yet

Bloody hell I'd need viagra to get it up any quicker lol

Awaiting a few different screws and bolts to come to finish it off.

But always open to new ideas

If there was as much work on the project as there is chit chat, it’d be done by now

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As an alternative hooks that go over and under the door between the frame? I have used three 2 meter lengths of rope single column tie on both ankles. Single or double column on hands. Large knot on the end of the ropes. Leg ones slip under door, wrist one over the door, you could add a rope coller to go over the door. It is a slight fiddle to line them up. But works!

Alternatively I have seen a kit that does the same with straps and had a waist strap."

Too complicated as my sub likes arm ankle cuffs and collar to just clip her to wherever...so it having all the points in the right place

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it up yet

Bloody hell I'd need viagra to get it up any quicker lol

Awaiting a few different screws and bolts to come to finish it off.

But always open to new ideas

If there was as much work on the project as there is chit chat, it’d be done by now

Not when your awaiting bolts and steel plates to secure the wall

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How are your diy skills?

I’d bond sheets of ply to the wall and then re-plasterboard over. Either dry lined or skimmed to finish.

You can then screw In some threaded anchors.

I'll get you round

Dont Rachael its a trick we wont see you again

I’m over my sub phase. I’m strong enuf now.

Strong enough to build them walls I hope

I do it every day so, yes.

Want a working holiday?

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By *aGaGagging for itCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

St Andrew's cross? - what have you done to piss him off? (Sorry, I'll get me coat...)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

That would be the wall as it's only anchor points

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

That would be the wall as it's only anchor points

You sure you want to do this. but im lucky i have a few places i can use for bdsm local clubs

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

That would be the wall as it's only anchor points

You sure you want to do this. but im lucky i have a few places i can use for bdsm local clubs"

Deffo it will be strong as hell when finished...clubs maybe later ,but it's good to have your own.

A lot of thought and planning have gone into this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

That would be the wall as it's only anchor points

You sure you want to do this. but im lucky i have a few places i can use for bdsm local clubs

Deffo it will be strong as hell when finished...clubs maybe later ,but it's good to have your own.

A lot of thought and planning have gone into this

i wanna see when you done it :P

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

That would be the wall as it's only anchor points

You sure you want to do this. but im lucky i have a few places i can use for bdsm local clubs

Deffo it will be strong as hell when finished...clubs maybe later ,but it's good to have your own.

A lot of thought and planning have gone into this

i wanna see when you done it :P"

Only it you try it out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

That would be the wall as it's only anchor points

You sure you want to do this. but im lucky i have a few places i can use for bdsm local clubs

Deffo it will be strong as hell when finished...clubs maybe later ,but it's good to have your own.

A lot of thought and planning have gone into this

i wanna see when you done it :P

Only it you try it out

not sub

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i had a vison of the the cross falling down when a poor subbie on it

That would be the wall as it's only anchor points

You sure you want to do this. but im lucky i have a few places i can use for bdsm local clubs

Deffo it will be strong as hell when finished...clubs maybe later ,but it's good to have your own.

A lot of thought and planning have gone into this

i wanna see when you done it :P

Only it you try it out

not sub

Aw your no bloody good then....I'm not fecking going in it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am pleased to say with the thanks of a pm off a kind couple.

My wall is now complete

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What did you do in the end?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What did you do in the end? "

A couple sent me a pm to say that the edges have a inch and half strips of wood at three foot sections.

So measured up and put the hooks in and use some chains I had bought earlier...and Roberta's your aunty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

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over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

You manage without even trying

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

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By *osmosgirlWoman
over a year ago

Wetherby

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

Don't need them buggers...you will glow

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

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"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

"
what colour sequins would you like

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

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"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

what colour sequins would you like

Gold..I like gold!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

what colour sequins would you like

Gold..I like gold!

Burning red

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go get some toggle or butterfly bolts

They are fixings that when inserted grip the rear of the hole!

Honest!

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By *osmosgirlWoman
over a year ago

Wetherby

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

what colour sequins would you like

Could I have a rainbow of colours please.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Go get some toggle or butterfly bolts

They are fixings that when inserted grip the rear of the hole!

Honest!"

Wouldn't have done as it's only chalk and paper....but job securely done now

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over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

what colour sequins would you like

Could I have a rainbow of colours please.

I think that can be arranged

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By *osmosgirlWoman
over a year ago

Wetherby

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

what colour sequins would you like

Could I have a rainbow of colours please.

I think that can be arranged

Thank you Mistress

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bump...

Just don't put sequins on it

Good man

Don't even suggest I'm good.

You any idea how hard it is to be bad on here

I'll get the hammer

Did someone say sequins?

what colour sequins would you like

Could I have a rainbow of colours please.

I think that can be arranged

Thank you Mistress

Your more then welcome

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