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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So the queen is a major investor in the rip off company bright house.

This company rip off the poor with their lending rates and pay very little tax as they are a off shore company.

It is all legal but is it morally right?

Your thoughts?

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Wowzer. I think it's really fucking sad. I'm not a huge royal supporter by any means, but I do appreciate the tourism value etc, and tradition.

I'm genuinely gutted to hear that.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"So the queen is a major investor in the rip off company bright house.

This company rip off the poor with their lending rates and pay very little tax as they are a off shore company.

It is all legal but is it morally right?

Your thoughts?"

Yeah, wonder if she was advised where to invest, even if she was, she should know where her money is going!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My thoughts on all of these revelations that have been coming out the past few years is that wealthy people are going to find out that the average person doesn't really care about all of their immoral practices. There was a time when this stuff was hidden because there was a fear about what would happen if the general population found out. Now that it's all coming out and we do nothing...well...I think they are going to realize they don't even need to hide it anymore.

As trump said when he was questioned about his tax avoiding practices....he takes advantage of the system because it's there to be taken advantage of. It's like hearing other relatively poor people say "you wouod do it if you were them" thereby missing the point entirely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet she doesn't even know what bright house is ??

Just shows that people with money who let others look after their money in order to make money will probably have no idea what's being done with it too make them money

Probably don't care anyway ?

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I would suspect the Queen herself, and possibly even those responsible for the investment actually didn't know who, specifically, they were investing in other than an "offshore fund", that then in turn invested in Brighthouse - however there are still moral questions around investing in an offshore fund in the first place - particularly as head of state.

Either way now it has come to light, I would hope any monies invested are withdrawn without hesitation.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Weren’t the Church of England caught up in something similar - investing in something related to Pay day loans ...

Morals and ethics are hard to keep up when there’s a buck to be made

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Now its out heads will roll. My own thinking is she gets X millions from the puplic purse based on various things one of which will be the amount of tax she pays on it, not paying tax? Then she doesn't get so much money from the public purse.

Its us that should be saving it, not her..

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Weren’t the Church of England caught up in something similar - investing in something related to Pay day loans ...

Morals and ethics are hard to keep up when there’s a buck to be made "

Aint that the truth?

Greed is a deadly sin

Like envy and lust

Think on, people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who cares what the queen does with a teeny tiny point something percent of her wealth?

It's a complete none issue

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

But nobody is forcing anybody to shop in Bright house.

The target a specific audience which will continue to use the services they offer.

Supply and demand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I bet she doesn't even know what bright house is ??

Just shows that people with money who let others look after their money in order to make money will probably have no idea what's being done with it too make them money

Probably don't care anyway ?"

Not just doesn't know brighthouse, I'd suggest she doesn't actually have any idea where or how her money is invested.

Not that ignorance is an excuse.

I would say however that I think there's a lot of hypocrisy surrounding it. I've seen what happens to people when they are given a tax avoidance loophole. They jump straight through it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Weren’t the Church of England caught up in something similar - investing in something related to Pay day loans ...

Morals and ethics are hard to keep up when there’s a buck to be made "

Yep and isn't the queen the head of the church of England? I could be wrong..

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville


"I bet she doesn't even know what bright house is ??

Just shows that people with money who let others look after their money in order to make money will probably have no idea what's being done with it too make them money

Probably don't care anyway ?

Not just doesn't know brighthouse, I'd suggest she doesn't actually have any idea where or how her money is invested.

Not that ignorance is an excuse.

I would say however that I think there's a lot of hypocrisy surrounding it. I've seen what happens to people when they are given a tax avoidance loophole. They jump straight through it.

"

Hypocrisy indeed. Legally making money - yes okay. But like other people / bodies in positions of trust (the church / politicians to name but a few) I think the royals have a moral responsibility to avoid investment like this. You think about all the charities they support. No doubt these include many under privellaged sectors of society - vulnerable people who use the likes of Brighthouse.

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By *arksMan
over a year ago

in the centre

Money and morals don't mix , the wealthy will invest in anything that makes them money so they stay wealthy and not join the ranks of the rest of us normal people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the queen is a major investor in the rip off company bright house.

This company rip off the poor with their lending rates and pay very little tax as they are a off shore company.

It is all legal but is it morally right?

Your thoughts?"

A spokesperson said 'Her Maj

was not party to the decision about where to invest"...well. , ain't it terrible.the way these sharks prey on vulnerable old ladies.fleecing them out of their 10 million in savings.

She should get a tax rebate to help her heat her home in the cold winter that's coming.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many of us actually know where our monies are being invested once we put them in any high street bank? Unless you bank with someone like the CO-OP who state they don't invest in unethical companies you really have no clue. The only safe place for your money is in your mattress

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville


"How many of us actually know where our monies are being invested once we put them in any high street bank? Unless you bank with someone like the CO-OP who state they don't invest in unethical companies you really have no clue. The only safe place for your money is in your mattress "

That’s true. But then most of us aren’t standing as figure heads in society which I think is the difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She looks the type... it's those shifty eyes!

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

I'm with Tequila Mockingbird on this.

Where do you think that 1 - 5% interest comes from when you put your money in your bank account? More than likely it came from making someones life harder.

If she invested in apple would you all complain? They are an offshore company? Intel, google?

Its unfortunate this company makes its money in this way, but I highly highly doubt the Queen was aware of it.

I'm nor British, I am Irish just giving my opinion that she did nothing wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How many of us actually know where our monies are being invested once we put them in any high street bank? Unless you bank with someone like the CO-OP who state they don't invest in unethical companies you really have no clue. The only safe place for your money is in your mattress

That’s true. But then most of us aren’t standing as figure heads in society which I think is the difference. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How many of us actually know where our monies are being invested once we put them in any high street bank? Unless you bank with someone like the CO-OP who state they don't invest in unethical companies you really have no clue. The only safe place for your money is in your mattress

That’s true. But then most of us aren’t standing as figure heads in society which I think is the difference. "

Because only people with celebrity status should be held to account when they trust an outside expert to look after their monetary interests??

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville


"How many of us actually know where our monies are being invested once we put them in any high street bank? Unless you bank with someone like the CO-OP who state they don't invest in unethical companies you really have no clue. The only safe place for your money is in your mattress

That’s true. But then most of us aren’t standing as figure heads in society which I think is the difference.

Because only people with celebrity status should be held to account when they trust an outside expert to look after their monetary interests??"

Not sure I would call the monarch, the church and policitians as celebrity status

No I didn’t say my comment was exclusive did I. Why do you feel these people / bodies should not be accountable and be able to invest money wherever they choose ?

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By *erseus1968Man
over a year ago

Rochdale

I think they're all parasites anyway.

Cromwell had the right idea.

I'd happily have the UK declared a Republic and get rid of the lot of them in a heartbeat.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

And people still support her and the monarchy. Disgusting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How many of us actually know where our monies are being invested once we put them in any high street bank? Unless you bank with someone like the CO-OP who state they don't invest in unethical companies you really have no clue. The only safe place for your money is in your mattress

That’s true. But then most of us aren’t standing as figure heads in society which I think is the difference.

Because only people with celebrity status should be held to account when they trust an outside expert to look after their monetary interests??

Not sure I would call the monarch, the church and policitians as celebrity status

No I didn’t say my comment was exclusive did I. Why do you feel these people / bodies should not be accountable and be able to invest money wherever they choose ?"

If someone can find me the tape where Lizzie says "fuck it Philip, let's invest in Brighthouse and laugh while the paupers suffer" then I will be the first to admit that she should be held accountable. Until then she is just a person who is not an economic expert putting her trust in someone who is an economic expert to do their job and look after her money in a legal way. Someone fucked up and now it will be fixed. Shit happens sometimes

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here


"So the queen is a major investor in the rip off company bright house.

This company rip off the poor with their lending rates and pay very little tax as they are a off shore company.

It is all legal but is it morally right?

Your thoughts?"

According to the Duchy of Lancaster, the investment stands at £3208. I doubt that qualifies the queen as a major investor.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Where do you think that 1 - 5% interest comes from when you put your money in your bank account?"

Good luck finding 5% on the high street

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

I'm at best nuetral about the royals in general. But who here seriously thinks the Queen has anything to do with her financial investments LOL.

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"I think they're all parasites anyway.

Cromwell had the right idea.

I'd happily have the UK declared a Republic and get rid of the lot of them in a heartbeat. "

President May? President Corbyn?

I'd rather have a non political head of state.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville


"How many of us actually know where our monies are being invested once we put them in any high street bank? Unless you bank with someone like the CO-OP who state they don't invest in unethical companies you really have no clue. The only safe place for your money is in your mattress

That’s true. But then most of us aren’t standing as figure heads in society which I think is the difference.

Because only people with celebrity status should be held to account when they trust an outside expert to look after their monetary interests??

Not sure I would call the monarch, the church and policitians as celebrity status

No I didn’t say my comment was exclusive did I. Why do you feel these people / bodies should not be accountable and be able to invest money wherever they choose ?

If someone can find me the tape where Lizzie says "fuck it Philip, let's invest in Brighthouse and laugh while the paupers suffer" then I will be the first to admit that she should be held accountable. Until then she is just a person who is not an economic expert putting her trust in someone who is an economic expert to do their job and look after her money in a legal way. Someone fucked up and now it will be fixed. Shit happens sometimes "

I agree. Point is it does need to be fixed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My thoughts on all of these revelations that have been coming out the past few years is that wealthy people are going to find out that the average person doesn't really care about all of their immoral practices. There was a time when this stuff was hidden because there was a fear about what would happen if the general population found out. Now that it's all coming out and we do nothing...well...I think they are going to realize they don't even need to hide it anymore.

As trump said when he was questioned about his tax avoiding practices....he takes advantage of the system because it's there to be taken advantage of. It's like hearing other relatively poor people say "you wouod do it if you were them" thereby missing the point entirely. "
.

Viva la revolution.... Alas my guillotine has gone missing .

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By *ouise HartleyTV/TS
over a year ago

the street of failed artists Liverpool


"Who cares what the queen does with a teeny tiny point something percent of her wealth?

It's a complete none issue "

Actually it is an issue, every pound the Q saves in tax is a pound less for the NHS or education the list goes on. She and the likes of her only invest in these schemes to avoid tax on their wealth. Lord Ashcroft et al, Patriots? Don't make me laugh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

50% of the wealth in tax havens is owned by 0.01% of the population..... That's like a hundred people.

Who's up for a posse

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By *rincessvenusCouple
over a year ago

Hull

should think all the people who bought stuff frombrighthouse are lauhing ther getting there money back with interest they have been orderd to pay back 20 million pundswish i would of thought of that brighthose wonga who next

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who cares what the queen does with a teeny tiny point something percent of her wealth?

It's a complete none issue

Actually it is an issue, every pound the Q saves in tax is a pound less for the NHS or education the list goes on. She and the likes of her only invest in these schemes to avoid tax on their wealth. Lord Ashcroft et al, Patriots? Don't make me laugh"

I'd do the same. But I'm no goody two shoes.

And what's so good abut being a patriot?

Glad you've declared every single penny that's ever gone through your hands to the tax man though so can speak with the righteous authority on this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50% of the wealth in tax havens is owned by 0.01% of the population..... That's like a hundred people.

Who's up for a posse "

And if you earn over £15000 your in the world's top 10% of wealth.

Figures don't always represent the truth.

The investment in brighthouse equated to roughly £3800 from the story on BBC website that I read. Major investor??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"50% of the wealth in tax havens is owned by 0.01% of the population..... That's like a hundred people.

Who's up for a posse

And if you earn over £15000 your in the world's top 10% of wealth.

Figures don't always represent the truth.

The investment in brighthouse equated to roughly £3800 from the story on BBC website that I read. Major investor??"

At the time I posted this it was mooted to be around 10 million...I have not checked since,but I will concede that that would have made my op misleading though that was not my intention.

But after saying that I still think these legal off shore loopholes need shaken...up as ever it is one law for the the rich which the not so rich subsidies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50% of the wealth in tax havens is owned by 0.01% of the population..... That's like a hundred people.

Who's up for a posse

And if you earn over £15000 your in the world's top 10% of wealth.

Figures don't always represent the truth.

The investment in brighthouse equated to roughly £3800 from the story on BBC website that I read. Major investor??"
.

There's a bit of a difference between 10% and 0.01% the BBC have the figure of 0.1% that own 80% of tax haven wealth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who gives a shit

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By *ralworshipperMan
over a year ago

Willesden

The Irish Republic's recent Presidents seem to have done reasonable job

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here


"50% of the wealth in tax havens is owned by 0.01% of the population..... That's like a hundred people.

Who's up for a posse

And if you earn over £15000 your in the world's top 10% of wealth.

Figures don't always represent the truth.

The investment in brighthouse equated to roughly £3800 from the story on BBC website that I read. Major investor??

At the time I posted this it was mooted to be around 10 million...I have not checked since,but I will concede that that would have made my op misleading though that was not my intention.

But after saying that I still think these legal off shore loopholes need shaken...up as ever it is one law for the the rich which the not so rich subsidies "

£10 million was the total invested offshore, not the investment in Brighthouse.

Do you pay into a pension plan? If so, have you checked recently where your money is invested?

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By *elson61Man
over a year ago

WELWYN GARDEN CITY


"Where do you think that 1 - 5% interest comes from when you put your money in your bank account?

Good luck finding 5% on the high street "

Nationwide do A Flexclusive Regular saver account that allows you to pay in £500 a month with 5% interest.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"50% of the wealth in tax havens is owned by 0.01% of the population..... That's like a hundred people.

Who's up for a posse

And if you earn over £15000 your in the world's top 10% of wealth.

Figures don't always represent the truth.

The investment in brighthouse equated to roughly £3800 from the story on BBC website that I read. Major investor??

At the time I posted this it was mooted to be around 10 million...I have not checked since,but I will concede that that would have made my op misleading though that was not my intention.

But after saying that I still think these legal off shore loopholes need shaken...up as ever it is one law for the the rich which the not so rich subsidies

£10 million was the total invested offshore, not the investment in Brighthouse.

Do you pay into a pension plan? If so, have you checked recently where your money is invested?"

Maybe if I had ten million to put in a pension fund I would be able to pay someone to ensure my investments were ethical

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Where do you think that 1 - 5% interest comes from when you put your money in your bank account?

Good luck finding 5% on the high street

Nationwide do A Flexclusive Regular saver account that allows you to pay in £500 a month with 5% interest."

The maximum is £250/m and it's only a 12 month rate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

anyone that has a perceived genetic hierarchy should not be allowed to exist in the parameters that are given.

full stop.

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here


"50% of the wealth in tax havens is owned by 0.01% of the population..... That's like a hundred people.

Who's up for a posse

And if you earn over £15000 your in the world's top 10% of wealth.

Figures don't always represent the truth.

The investment in brighthouse equated to roughly £3800 from the story on BBC website that I read. Major investor??

At the time I posted this it was mooted to be around 10 million...I have not checked since,but I will concede that that would have made my op misleading though that was not my intention.

But after saying that I still think these legal off shore loopholes need shaken...up as ever it is one law for the the rich which the not so rich subsidies

£10 million was the total invested offshore, not the investment in Brighthouse.

Do you pay into a pension plan? If so, have you checked recently where your money is invested?

Maybe if I had ten million to put in a pension fund I would be able to pay someone to ensure my investments were ethical "

It's not £10 million in a pension fund and the amount invested in Brightside is just over 3 grand. If you have a pension fund, the likelihood is that the pot contains more that figure, so do you know where it's all invested? Principles and all that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm at best nuetral about the royals in general. But who here seriously thinks the Queen has anything to do with her financial investments LOL. "

The ten million in question is from Her Maj s personal fortune.

I just found it laughable tgat some minion came on radio four to defend her, saying that she would have had no knowledge of where her money went.

She didn't get where she is today by handing over ten million with no idea what was happening to it.

'Don't worry Liz, your money's safe wiv me.Ask no questions and I'll tell no lies'. "Oh yes, of course. Are you sure ten is enough? I could make it twenty".

Very likely.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville


"I'm at best nuetral about the royals in general. But who here seriously thinks the Queen has anything to do with her financial investments LOL.

The ten million in question is from Her Maj s personal fortune.

I just found it laughable tgat some minion came on radio four to defend her, saying that she would have had no knowledge of where her money went.

She didn't get where she is today by handing over ten million with no idea what was happening to it.

'Don't worry Liz, your money's safe wiv me.Ask no questions and I'll tell no lies'. "Oh yes, of course. Are you sure ten is enough? I could make it twenty".

Very likely."

That’s not the rhyme. It’s “ask no questions tell no lies, ever seen a policeman doing up his flies”

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