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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Did i miss the condolence thread?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

You could start one #justsaying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too much of this going on

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Too much of this going on "

So much so that no-one gives a damn. So who has won, terrorists, or our ability to just accept this kind of thing as normal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Too much of this going on

So much so that no-one gives a damn. So who has won, terrorists, or our ability to just accept this kind of thing as normal? "

No one will win in this situation! We are all loosing

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"Too much of this going on

So much so that no-one gives a damn. So who has won, terrorists, or our ability to just accept this kind of thing as normal? "

Terrorists don't win if we take these attacks in our stride. Their aim is to terrorise us

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By *atcherwankerMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

I think it's ok to be horrified at something without having to tell the internet.

Personally - and this is my personal opinion, I'm not trying to impose it, or to criticise others' actions or opinions - I think rushing to, say, change one's Facebook pfp to a flag, or share a hashtag as a show of sympathy feels very contrived and artificial. It feels like lip-service, an easy bandwagon to hop on to make sure one's seen to be showing solidarity.

I realise this is not at all the way everyone sees things, and I'm not seeking to dismiss or trivialise anybody else's emotional response. It's simply why I personally don't tend to do such things.

I guess the point I'm making in the context of this thread is that the lack of a condolence post doesn't have to mean that nobody gives a toss. Just that nobody, as yet,has felt that that's the way they feel they want to express their feelings. It's perfectly acceptable to NOT share your feelings with the world if that's your wish.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"You could start one #justsaying "

this........ it only takes one person to start one, and instead of pointing fingers you could have started one yourself OP!

"if everyone waits on someone else to do something, invariably nothing gets done!"

me personally... i fell asleep at 8pm last night... and by the time i woke up at 2am i had a shed load of texts....and i know there area really well (most people know the west side highway)

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Too much of this going on

So much so that no-one gives a damn

"

Are you including yourself in that as you have only just started a thread?

Normally on here a thread is started almost immediately when something like this happens ( most of the time it is how I get to find out and then go look at the news) so it does seem surprising that there wasn't one. I can only assume no one had seen the News reports.

Although to be honest, people have been called out for starting those type of threads when there is suffering going on elsewhere and how dare they only talk about one tragedy and now for not caring enough to start one.

What a funny old world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thus will sound awfully callous amd uncaring amd it really isn't meant to but coming only weeks after the atrocity in Vegas the eat toll almost seems trivial. Amd I stress that isn't meant to sound as cold as it probably does but certainly my normal reaction of sadness and horror was absent when I read the news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Too much of this going on

So much so that no-one gives a damn

Are you including yourself in that as you have only just started a thread?

Normally on here a thread is started almost immediately when something like this happens ( most of the time it is how I get to find out and then go look at the news) so it does seem surprising that there wasn't one. I can only assume no one had seen the News reports.

Although to be honest, people have been called out for starting those type of threads when there is suffering going on elsewhere and how dare they only talk about one tragedy and now for not caring enough to start one.

What a funny old world "

No soxy to post it ruggers

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"You could start one #justsaying

this........ it only takes one person to start one, and instead of pointing fingers you could have started one yourself OP!

"if everyone waits on someone else to do something, invariably nothing gets done!"

me personally... i fell asleep at 8pm last night... and by the time i woke up at 2am i had a shed load of texts....and i know there area really well (most people know the west side highway)

"

I asked if I'd missed the thread. You can consider this "the thread" if it makes you feel better. Or you can carry on attacking me for "pointing fingers". Whatever.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Too much of this going on

So much so that no-one gives a damn

Are you including yourself in that as you have only just started a thread?

Normally on here a thread is started almost immediately when something like this happens ( most of the time it is how I get to find out and then go look at the news) so it does seem surprising that there wasn't one. I can only assume no one had seen the News reports.

Although to be honest, people have been called out for starting those type of threads when there is suffering going on elsewhere and how dare they only talk about one tragedy and now for not caring enough to start one.

What a funny old world "

What do you mean by "only just started a thread"? It was just after 6 am, what time would have been more suitable?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its really sad, OP. I saw the news last night.

I think, to an extent, we have gotten a bit used to it all. But I also think that not making a huge deal out of it all takes the power away from the people who commit these acts - attention and validation is precisely what they seek.

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By *igblackdomTV/TS
over a year ago

West Midlands


"

I asked if I'd missed the thread. You can consider this "the thread" if it makes you feel better. Or you can carry on attacking me for "pointing fingers". Whatever. "

That's a little disingenuous OP, your question wasn't an innocent request to establish where the condolence thread was, it was a sarcastic reference directed at others who hadn't engaged in the symbolic chest beating which usually accompanies atrocities of this nature.

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By *igblackdomTV/TS
over a year ago

West Midlands


"

I asked if I'd missed the thread. You can consider this "the thread" if it makes you feel better. Or you can carry on attacking me for "pointing fingers". Whatever.

That's a little disingenuous OP, your question wasn't an innocent request to establish where the condolence thread was, it was a sarcastic reference directed at others who hadn't engaged in the symbolic chest beating which usually accompanies atrocities of this nature."

PS RIP to those who lost their lives

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a species we become desensitized to these events the more frequently they occur. Only when they are close to home, geographically or by personal experience or knowledge of victims do they impact upon us as individuals. Otherwise we may think, 'how terrible' and carry on with whatever we were doing. It's human nature.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you had done a search you wouldn't have needed to ask.

If you want to take the piss out of what people post on here there are more deserving causes, I think.

My heart sinks when I read of people being brutally murdered. I don't display my feelings to the internet, but I do read the threads.

I don't ridicule people for showing concern; which is what seems to be happening here.

I'm disappointed; even for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I asked if I'd missed the thread. You can consider this "the thread" if it makes you feel better. Or you can carry on attacking me for "pointing fingers". Whatever.

That's a little disingenuous OP, your question wasn't an innocent request to establish where the condolence thread was, it was a sarcastic reference directed at others who hadn't engaged in the symbolic chest beating which usually accompanies atrocities of this nature."

I would agree with this. Clem, don’t get antsy for being called out on your intent. You’ve done this a few times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a species we become desensitized to these events the more frequently they occur. Only when they are close to home, geographically or by personal experience or knowledge of victims do they impact upon us as individuals. Otherwise we may think, 'how terrible' and carry on with whatever we were doing. It's human nature. "

People who start a thread aren't desensitised. They care enough to at least show their sorrow/dismay. Apparently that's not acceptable to some.

Something like this isn't to be joked about. People have died in terror.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"I think it's ok to be horrified at something without having to tell the internet.

Personally - and this is my personal opinion, I'm not trying to impose it, or to criticise others' actions or opinions - I think rushing to, say, change one's Facebook pfp to a flag, or share a hashtag as a show of sympathy feels very contrived and artificial. It feels like lip-service, an easy bandwagon to hop on to make sure one's seen to be showing solidarity.

I realise this is not at all the way everyone sees things, and I'm not seeking to dismiss or trivialise anybody else's emotional response. It's simply why I personally don't tend to do such things.

I guess the point I'm making in the context of this thread is that the lack of a condolence post doesn't have to mean that nobody gives a toss. Just that nobody, as yet,has felt that that's the way they feel they want to express their feelings. It's perfectly acceptable to NOT share your feelings with the world if that's your wish."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a species we become desensitized to these events the more frequently they occur. Only when they are close to home, geographically or by personal experience or knowledge of victims do they impact upon us as individuals. Otherwise we may think, 'how terrible' and carry on with whatever we were doing. It's human nature.

People who start a thread aren't desensitised. They care enough to at least show their sorrow/dismay. Apparently that's not acceptable to some.

Something like this isn't to be joked about. People have died in terror. "

Mine is a general comment, certainly not a joke. The point is that some people are genuinely upset/disturbed by these atrocities on a personal level, others will accept them as part of the society we have created. Also some will feel the need to express/share their feelings, and some will not. There is no 'right' response.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"If you had done a search you wouldn't have needed to ask.

If you want to take the piss out of what people post on here there are more deserving causes, I think.

My heart sinks when I read of people being brutally murdered. I don't display my feelings to the internet, but I do read the threads.

I don't ridicule people for showing concern; which is what seems to be happening here.

I'm disappointed; even for you. "

I think you're putting words in my mouth, as it were. But the band wagon is rolling. Feel free to jump aboard!

As a keen cyclist I'm disgusted with how this guy has targeted my friends. I'm just glad he's still alive to suffer, long my it last. And yes i changed my Facebook profile picture to reflect the incident.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you had done a search you wouldn't have needed to ask.

If you want to take the piss out of what people post on here there are more deserving causes, I think.

My heart sinks when I read of people being brutally murdered. I don't display my feelings to the internet, but I do read the threads.

I don't ridicule people for showing concern; which is what seems to be happening here.

I'm disappointed; even for you.

I think you're putting words in my mouth, as it were. But the band wagon is rolling. Feel free to jump aboard!

As a keen cyclist I'm disgusted with how this guy has targeted my friends. I'm just glad he's still alive to suffer, long my it last. And yes i changed my Facebook profile picture to reflect the incident. "

I don't jump on bandwagons Clem.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"If you had done a search you wouldn't have needed to ask.

If you want to take the piss out of what people post on here there are more deserving causes, I think.

My heart sinks when I read of people being brutally murdered. I don't display my feelings to the internet, but I do read the threads.

I don't ridicule people for showing concern; which is what seems to be happening here.

I'm disappointed; even for you.

I think you're putting words in my mouth, as it were. But the band wagon is rolling. Feel free to jump aboard!

As a keen cyclist I'm disgusted with how this guy has targeted my friends. I'm just glad he's still alive to suffer, long my it last. And yes i changed my Facebook profile picture to reflect the incident.

I don't jump on bandwagons Clem.

"

I'm disappointed in you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you had done a search you wouldn't have needed to ask.

If you want to take the piss out of what people post on here there are more deserving causes, I think.

My heart sinks when I read of people being brutally murdered. I don't display my feelings to the internet, but I do read the threads.

I don't ridicule people for showing concern; which is what seems to be happening here.

I'm disappointed; even for you.

I think you're putting words in my mouth, as it were. But the band wagon is rolling. Feel free to jump aboard!

As a keen cyclist I'm disgusted with how this guy has targeted my friends. I'm just glad he's still alive to suffer, long my it last. And yes i changed my Facebook profile picture to reflect the incident.

I don't jump on bandwagons Clem.

I'm disappointed in you. "

Please don't be. I have many other character flaws.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"You could start one #justsaying

this........ it only takes one person to start one, and instead of pointing fingers you could have started one yourself OP!

"if everyone waits on someone else to do something, invariably nothing gets done!"

me personally... i fell asleep at 8pm last night... and by the time i woke up at 2am i had a shed load of texts....and i know there area really well (most people know the west side highway)

I asked if I'd missed the thread. You can consider this "the thread" if it makes you feel better. Or you can carry on attacking me for "pointing fingers". Whatever. "

You absolutely are pointing fingers though aren't you. Making everyone else out to be uncaring because no one started a condolence thread. All you needed to do is make one rather than some passive aggressive one bemoaning the social apathy surrounding terrorist attacks.

I would bet my last rolo you would also jump on a condolence thread accusing people of being keyboard empathisers who roll out trite, cliché sentences after such tragedies.

That's your M.O. seen it way too often on here. Now you will post some arsey response to this as you have to others who have called you out on not simply starting a condolence thread. It's all a bit predictable.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Too much of this going on

So much so that no-one gives a damn

Are you including yourself in that as you have only just started a thread?

Normally on here a thread is started almost immediately when something like this happens ( most of the time it is how I get to find out and then go look at the news) so it does seem surprising that there wasn't one. I can only assume no one had seen the News reports.

Although to be honest, people have been called out for starting those type of threads when there is suffering going on elsewhere and how dare they only talk about one tragedy and now for not caring enough to start one.

What a funny old world

What do you mean by "only just started a thread"? It was just after 6 am, what time would have been more suitable? "

Very defensive post there.

I didn't say a thread being started at any time was suitable or not, in fact I didn't have a view of whether a thread should have been posted at all ....but as you are questioning why there wasn't one then maybe you should answer your own question of what time it should have been posted

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

After reading the rest of the thread, all I will say is...own it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't surprise me at all!.

I've seen this coming over the years and just like with past extremism it basically fades out of the public attention until something very bad, ie alot of deaths occur, plus we've constantly been fed a message of don't report this, don't mention it, don't talk about it, it's what "these people want".... Which basically I think is completely wrong on several levels.

1st the vast majority of terrorism happens without being reported, nobody ever stops going through with any wicked crime for lack of attention.

2nd the publicity in the main is for they're recruitment not for the purposes of terrorising anybody.

3rd the killing in the main is actually for the benefit of the murderer, they see it as an easy route to heaven... Which is their main aim in the act.

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Sadly the news has other things to talk about at the moment so these small acts of terrorism are downgraded to small segments on the bulletin

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"After reading the rest of the thread, all I will say is...own it "

Yes. It's very obvious what the OP was doing, and claiming to be innocent and unfairly attacked is silly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's ok to be horrified at something without having to tell the internet.

Personally - and this is my personal opinion, I'm not trying to impose it, or to criticise others' actions or opinions - I think rushing to, say, change one's Facebook pfp to a flag, or share a hashtag as a show of sympathy feels very contrived and artificial. It feels like lip-service, an easy bandwagon to hop on to make sure one's seen to be showing solidarity.

I realise this is not at all the way everyone sees things, and I'm not seeking to dismiss or trivialise anybody else's emotional response. It's simply why I personally don't tend to do such things.

I guess the point I'm making in the context of this thread is that the lack of a condolence post doesn't have to mean that nobody gives a toss. Just that nobody, as yet,has felt that that's the way they feel they want to express their feelings. It's perfectly acceptable to NOT share your feelings with the world if that's your wish."

Hear, hear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Black cab mounts pavement in Covent garden this eve but NOT thought to be terror related atm.

Ptu xxx

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