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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Fireworks seem louder than when i was younger.. Anyway, has anyone tried the calming products on their pets and did they work? E. G plug in diffusers?

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan

I think they have got quieter tbh. Regulations and all that.

I've not had to try any of the calming stuff for my dog so can't help with that but I do believe that owners make their dogs fear worse by stressing and fussing. The dog's pick up on your concern and become anxious and unsettled themselves. Not saying that is the only reason they may be scared but it is definitely a major factor in some cases.

Just like with kids you have to show them there is nothing g to be afraid of rather than reinforce their reaction. Not easy with a dog has already learned to be scared, but should be relatively easy when they are young.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them"

Would I be right guessing that your household enjoys fireworks and your animals are sensing that fireworks are fun/exciting rather than scary?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

If I have to absolutely leave the house in the days Surrounding November the 5th I treat my dogs to a metal playlist streamed around the house and some calming treats otherwise my 9 stone bully will attempt to become one with the back of the sofa in order to hide.

Barring a family emergency I always make sure I stay with them on bonfire night itself.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth


"We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them

Would I be right guessing that your household enjoys fireworks and your animals are sensing that fireworks are fun/exciting rather than scary?"

I enjoy fireworks but my ex hubby hated them. He was hit by one at an organised show as a child and got injured. I had 3 out of our 4 cats and my the dog when I was with my ex

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them

Would I be right guessing that your household enjoys fireworks and your animals are sensing that fireworks are fun/exciting rather than scary?

I enjoy fireworks but my ex hubby hated them. He was hit by one at an organised show as a child and got injured. I had 3 out of our 4 cats and my the dog when I was with my ex"

They must take after you then, or you just have the knack of putting them at ease.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Despite my German Shepherd being a worrier and scared of everything he is actually OK with fireworks.

I can walk him on bonfire night and he's not bothered

However, the wind he doesn't like, and the wind making the back door creak will see him hiding under the table.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Luckily our springers aren’t phased by loud bangs.

We used to use a plug in thing that calmed our last dog a bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My little dog is mostly fearless until it comes to fireworks or loud bangs. I tried a few calming sents etc but didn't seem to work, she would still be so scared bless her.

I don't go out on fireworks night now adays, as only thing that comforts her is being cuddled up to me on my lap all night. I can only speak for dogs as never had another pets, but some dogs hearing is super sensitive.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think they are louder with their bangs becoming more of the reason they are bought. Not used the products for cats.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I try to keep him calm and stay calm myself so he doesn't get bad vibes but gets panicky.. The only tome he stayed put was when he was knackered after a long walk

Will try out a diffuser, £20 quid but worth a try

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth


"We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them

Would I be right guessing that your household enjoys fireworks and your animals are sensing that fireworks are fun/exciting rather than scary?

I enjoy fireworks but my ex hubby hated them. He was hit by one at an organised show as a child and got injured. I had 3 out of our 4 cats and my the dog when I was with my ex

They must take after you then, or you just have the knack of putting them at ease."

I've never had issues with any pets I've had being afraid of loud noises. I had my dog from only 7 weeks and took him out and about from day one, carrying him before he had his full vaccinations. At 14 weeks old I took him down to the railway level crossing and we sat there watching the trains, even big noisy freight trains didn't bother him. I wanted to teach him that nothing was scary.

However I did make one small mistake with his training, he didn't really know how to negotiate stairs I had stair gates to keep him away from the cat litter trays in the hall which meant that he wasn't able to get upstairs so he never really learned how to negotiate them. I realised my mistake whence was about 4 years old and I had to almost carry him up and over a footbridge on a new walk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My dog is too lazy to be bothered by the local militia youth and there bangers

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By *ficouldMan
over a year ago

a quandary, could you change my mind?

My dog was fine with loud bangs, fireworks (displays) and noise but someone popped a crisp packet now he disappears quickly, normally to lay in his bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We used a plug in thing from the vets for our cats years ago, it worked a treat.

Our dog isnt bothered by fireworks at all, when they are going off he likes to get in the garden and watch them

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them

Would I be right guessing that your household enjoys fireworks and your animals are sensing that fireworks are fun/exciting rather than scary?

I enjoy fireworks but my ex hubby hated them. He was hit by one at an organised show as a child and got injured. I had 3 out of our 4 cats and my the dog when I was with my ex

They must take after you then, or you just have the knack of putting them at ease.

I've never had issues with any pets I've had being afraid of loud noises. I had my dog from only 7 weeks and took him out and about from day one, carrying him before he had his full vaccinations. At 14 weeks old I took him down to the railway level crossing and we sat there watching the trains, even big noisy freight trains didn't bother him. I wanted to teach him that nothing was scary.

However I did make one small mistake with his training, he didn't really know how to negotiate stairs I had stair gates to keep him away from the cat litter trays in the hall which meant that he wasn't able to get upstairs so he never really learned how to negotiate them. I realised my mistake whence was about 4 years old and I had to almost carry him up and over a footbridge on a new walk"

Exactly how it should be done. Introduce them to the sights and sounds when young in a calm, controlled and confident way. Works even better if you can have an older dog come along to show a good example aswell.

Regarding fireworks specifically, i was given a cd with recordings of fireworks that you are supposed to play in the background at a really low volume at first and then gradually increase the volume over the space of a few weeks (months if necessary). I never used it as my dog was born 6th november so heard fireworks right from day one and through to new years so it was never a problem.

How is your dog doing with steps now? Good job you didn`t carry him up the steps, they are not daft and he would have had you carrying him everywhere after that. lol

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them

Would I be right guessing that your household enjoys fireworks and your animals are sensing that fireworks are fun/exciting rather than scary?

I enjoy fireworks but my ex hubby hated them. He was hit by one at an organised show as a child and got injured. I had 3 out of our 4 cats and my the dog when I was with my ex

They must take after you then, or you just have the knack of putting them at ease.

I've never had issues with any pets I've had being afraid of loud noises. I had my dog from only 7 weeks and took him out and about from day one, carrying him before he had his full vaccinations. At 14 weeks old I took him down to the railway level crossing and we sat there watching the trains, even big noisy freight trains didn't bother him. I wanted to teach him that nothing was scary.

However I did make one small mistake with his training, he didn't really know how to negotiate stairs I had stair gates to keep him away from the cat litter trays in the hall which meant that he wasn't able to get upstairs so he never really learned how to negotiate them. I realised my mistake whence was about 4 years old and I had to almost carry him up and over a footbridge on a new walk

Exactly how it should be done. Introduce them to the sights and sounds when young in a calm, controlled and confident way. Works even better if you can have an older dog come along to show a good example aswell.

Regarding fireworks specifically, i was given a cd with recordings of fireworks that you are supposed to play in the background at a really low volume at first and then gradually increase the volume over the space of a few weeks (months if necessary). I never used it as my dog was born 6th november so heard fireworks right from day one and through to new years so it was never a problem.

How is your dog doing with steps now? Good job you didn`t carry him up the steps, they are not daft and he would have had you carrying him everywhere after that. lol

"

I'm sure you can train most dogs not to mind bangs with positive reenforcement. My terrier likes them, because he used to come shooting and a bang meant a dead thing (and dogs like dead things), my collies never have, but if one dog in the pack isn't bothered, the others soon learn not to be bothered either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our Dobermans don’t have an issue with fireworks at all, not that we’ve trained them to be honest. Maybe it’s because we live in the country and they are used to shot gun sounds with the automatic bird deterrents.

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By *hianaWoman
over a year ago

Hereford

Some idiot just let a firework off. Frightened my poor cat. He jumped up. Ears up. Flight response. So I just grabbed him, and fussed and spoke. He's lay back down now..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My cat is so laid back he just raises his head when fireworks go off then just lays back down

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"We use a feliway diffuser all the time as it helps smooth the tension and stress that can develop in a multi cat household.

I've been lucky so far with pets and fireworks. Our cats couldn't give a toss about fireworks and when I had a dog he enjoyed them. He used to stand on the sofa, poke his head through the curtains and watch them. The noisier they were, the more he liked them

Would I be right guessing that your household enjoys fireworks and your animals are sensing that fireworks are fun/exciting rather than scary?

I enjoy fireworks but my ex hubby hated them. He was hit by one at an organised show as a child and got injured. I had 3 out of our 4 cats and my the dog when I was with my ex

They must take after you then, or you just have the knack of putting them at ease.

I've never had issues with any pets I've had being afraid of loud noises. I had my dog from only 7 weeks and took him out and about from day one, carrying him before he had his full vaccinations. At 14 weeks old I took him down to the railway level crossing and we sat there watching the trains, even big noisy freight trains didn't bother him. I wanted to teach him that nothing was scary.

However I did make one small mistake with his training, he didn't really know how to negotiate stairs I had stair gates to keep him away from the cat litter trays in the hall which meant that he wasn't able to get upstairs so he never really learned how to negotiate them. I realised my mistake whence was about 4 years old and I had to almost carry him up and over a footbridge on a new walk

Exactly how it should be done. Introduce them to the sights and sounds when young in a calm, controlled and confident way. Works even better if you can have an older dog come along to show a good example aswell.

Regarding fireworks specifically, i was given a cd with recordings of fireworks that you are supposed to play in the background at a really low volume at first and then gradually increase the volume over the space of a few weeks (months if necessary). I never used it as my dog was born 6th november so heard fireworks right from day one and through to new years so it was never a problem.

How is your dog doing with steps now? Good job you didn`t carry him up the steps, they are not daft and he would have had you carrying him everywhere after that. lol

I'm sure you can train most dogs not to mind bangs with positive reenforcement. My terrier likes them, because he used to come shooting and a bang meant a dead thing (and dogs like dead things), my collies never have, but if one dog in the pack isn't bothered, the others soon learn not to be bothered either. "

You can but it becomes harder as they get older. Positive reinforcement is the main tool for training dogs but a lot of people don`t use it properly. For example, some people think that giving treats to a dog will distract if from being scared but if you give a scared dog a treat it thinks it is being rewarded for being scared, or at least wont learn to change it`s behaviour. The treat should just be an incentive for them to focus on you and not the fireworks and only given once it has earned it by stopping howling, coming out from hiding behind the couch etc. Even then there is a fine line between positively reinforcing good behavior and rewarding negative behavior.

It`s all in the timing and execution and each dog/situation will need a slightly different approach. You have to learn to understand your dog and be consistent and patient.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"Some idiot just let a firework off. Frightened my poor cat. He jumped up. Ears up. Flight response. So I just grabbed him, and fussed and spoke. He's lay back down now.."

It`s good to try and reassure/comfort them but if you make too much of a fuss they are learning to continue associating the bang to some sort of threat. If you stay calm they will pick up on it and realise there is nothing to be scared of

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By *hianaWoman
over a year ago

Hereford


"Some idiot just let a firework off. Frightened my poor cat. He jumped up. Ears up. Flight response. So I just grabbed him, and fussed and spoke. He's lay back down now..

It`s good to try and reassure/comfort them but if you make too much of a fuss they are learning to continue associating the bang to some sort of threat. If you stay calm they will pick up on it and realise there is nothing to be scared of "

Him being a stray until last year. You would have thought he'd just ignore. I am calm with him always when noises spook him, he's a bit of a shadow cat as well and tends to think of me as a mother since he was abandoned at very young age..flip I'm waffling.. Thank you. Will continue to make sure I don't over coddle him. He's learning still .

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"Some idiot just let a firework off. Frightened my poor cat. He jumped up. Ears up. Flight response. So I just grabbed him, and fussed and spoke. He's lay back down now..

It`s good to try and reassure/comfort them but if you make too much of a fuss they are learning to continue associating the bang to some sort of threat. If you stay calm they will pick up on it and realise there is nothing to be scared of

Him being a stray until last year. You would have thought he'd just ignore. I am calm with him always when noises spook him, he's a bit of a shadow cat as well and tends to think of me as a mother since he was abandoned at very young age..flip I'm waffling.. Thank you. Will continue to make sure I don't over coddle him. He's learning still . "

Have you tried/heard of desensitisation?

This is a good article/resource i have just found for you to check out. - http://www.zylkenepet.co.uk/sound-desensitisation.html

And this is a good article if you want to understand the psycology of assosiation/learned behaviour and why the techniques in the first link are effective. (maybe a bit deep and heavy for saturday night reading but it will help you understand your cats reactions and why your response is so important.) - https://www.verywell.com/classical-conditioning-2794859

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some idiot just let a firework off. Frightened my poor cat. He jumped up. Ears up. Flight response. So I just grabbed him, and fussed and spoke. He's lay back down now..

It`s good to try and reassure/comfort them but if you make too much of a fuss they are learning to continue associating the bang to some sort of threat. If you stay calm they will pick up on it and realise there is nothing to be scared of

Him being a stray until last year. You would have thought he'd just ignore. I am calm with him always when noises spook him, he's a bit of a shadow cat as well and tends to think of me as a mother since he was abandoned at very young age..flip I'm waffling.. Thank you. Will continue to make sure I don't over coddle him. He's learning still .

Have you tried/heard of desensitisation?

This is a good article/resource i have just found for you to check out. - http://www.zylkenepet.co.uk/sound-desensitisation.html

And this is a good article if you want to understand the psycology of assosiation/learned behaviour and why the techniques in the first link are effective. (maybe a bit deep and heavy for saturday night reading but it will help you understand your cats reactions and why your response is so important.) - https://www.verywell.com/classical-conditioning-2794859"

Thanks for that , will have a look

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By *elson61Man
over a year ago

WELWYN GARDEN CITY

Luckily none of my four cats get upset or stressed by all the noise of fireworks. They sit around nice and calm.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"Some idiot just let a firework off. Frightened my poor cat. He jumped up. Ears up. Flight response. So I just grabbed him, and fussed and spoke. He's lay back down now..

It`s good to try and reassure/comfort them but if you make too much of a fuss they are learning to continue associating the bang to some sort of threat. If you stay calm they will pick up on it and realise there is nothing to be scared of

Him being a stray until last year. You would have thought he'd just ignore. I am calm with him always when noises spook him, he's a bit of a shadow cat as well and tends to think of me as a mother since he was abandoned at very young age..flip I'm waffling.. Thank you. Will continue to make sure I don't over coddle him. He's learning still .

Have you tried/heard of desensitisation?

This is a good article/resource i have just found for you to check out. - http://www.zylkenepet.co.uk/sound-desensitisation.html

And this is a good article if you want to understand the psycology of assosiation/learned behaviour and why the techniques in the first link are effective. (maybe a bit deep and heavy for saturday night reading but it will help you understand your cats reactions and why your response is so important.) - https://www.verywell.com/classical-conditioning-2794859

Thanks for that , will have a look "

Your welcome mate, hope it helps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So far, I've not needed to.

Big fat puppy isn't bothered by them unless we're out and she hears them, and the little puppy has only just turned 1, so don't know what he'll be like with them.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"So far, I've not needed to.

Big fat puppy isn't bothered by them unless we're out and she hears them, and the little puppy has only just turned 1, so don't know what he'll be like with them."

Best not to wait and find out when it is too late. Try him with the link i posted previously http://www.zylkenepet.co.uk/sound-desensitisation.html

If his first experience of hearing them is a full on assault on bonfire night and results in him being panicked/distressed, it will make it much harder to make him comfortable with it in the future because he will have learned to associate bangs with fear and learned behaviour is always more difficult to correct.

To put it simply it is the same as what we term post traumatic stress disorder in humans. Once they have had that traumatic experience the damage is done

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By *egs11ABCWoman
over a year ago

Aberdeen

If got a staffy that stands at the window and watches and another that actually wets himself with fear.

Tried valium from vet 1 year with no luck. Last year i gave him 2 Kalms amd he slept thro them x

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By *ussymufferMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

You can try rescue night a few drops on the dogs tongue might help the poor dogs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So far, I've not needed to.

Big fat puppy isn't bothered by them unless we're out and she hears them, and the little puppy has only just turned 1, so don't know what he'll be like with them.

Best not to wait and find out when it is too late. Try him with the link i posted previously http://www.zylkenepet.co.uk/sound-desensitisation.html

If his first experience of hearing them is a full on assault on bonfire night and results in him being panicked/distressed, it will make it much harder to make him comfortable with it in the future because he will have learned to associate bangs with fear and learned behaviour is always more difficult to correct.

To put it simply it is the same as what we term post traumatic stress disorder in humans. Once they have had that traumatic experience the damage is done"

Will have a looksee cheers

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"If got a staffy that stands at the window and watches and another that actually wets himself with fear.

Tried valium from vet 1 year with no luck. Last year i gave him 2 Kalms amd he slept thro them x"

I dont like the idea of dosing them up, but as a last resort it is better than letting them suffer.

They should not be a substitute for putting the effort/training in to help them overcome the problem though.

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By *typical guyMan
over a year ago

wigan


"So far, I've not needed to.

Big fat puppy isn't bothered by them unless we're out and she hears them, and the little puppy has only just turned 1, so don't know what he'll be like with them.

Best not to wait and find out when it is too late. Try him with the link i posted previously http://www.zylkenepet.co.uk/sound-desensitisation.html

If his first experience of hearing them is a full on assault on bonfire night and results in him being panicked/distressed, it will make it much harder to make him comfortable with it in the future because he will have learned to associate bangs with fear and learned behaviour is always more difficult to correct.

To put it simply it is the same as what we term post traumatic stress disorder in humans. Once they have had that traumatic experience the damage is done

Will have a looksee cheers "
You`re welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I rescued my mutt from a shelter she spent the majority of her first year on the street so she cares not a jot about loud noises.. but she hides from heavy rainstorms bless her xx

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