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"You've met my ex? " Lol! Yes, I'm afraid so My sympathies to you & anyone who's gone through this. I'm amazed at how skill full some people can be at normalising this behaviour. I am ashamed today that this person has lived off his elderly Mother as well | |||
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"Is there not an amount of responsibility with the person who allows the other to live off them? (Don’t lynch me, I’m not having a pop-just asking!) " Hey, no problem…I totally agree with your statement on so many levels. This guy doesn't even claim benefits because he wants to be 'off grid' (raises even more questions) & bcos he says 'They'd make me do pipe-bending courses'. Our 'system' & our society has fostered the circumstances where people can exist like this & I now accept fully my role in enabling him to do this. | |||
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"That's me right now. Worked all my life and had a breakdown at the end of May. I'm currently off sick. Nothing in the bank, nothing to show from working a job that played part in the breakdown. It covered my bills and that was that. Not had a holiday in 14 years, rarely go out. I'm far from a sponger, but I do feel judged that way. I turn down meets every day because I'm unable to pay my way if we go out. " "That's me right now." HUH? Working hard all your life and having to take a break does NOT sound like a sponger. It's a setback and a difficult one.....hardly the same thing! A big Fuck Off to all who judge you for taking time to get back on your feet! | |||
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"Is there not an amount of responsibility with the person who allows the other to live off them? (Don’t lynch me, I’m not having a pop-just asking!) Hey, no problem…I totally agree with your statement on so many levels. This guy doesn't even claim benefits because he wants to be 'off grid' (raises even more questions) & bcos he says 'They'd make me do pipe-bending courses'. Our 'system' & our society has fostered the circumstances where people can exist like this & I now accept fully my role in enabling him to do this. " Ah that’s pants. Sorry you’ve been caught up in it. Definitely agree with you regarding the system, it’s a shame people are able to exploit it so easily. I only ask about ‘enabling’ as once a person withdraws their often unwitting support, it forces the person to get themselves sorted out. Good for you for seeing it for what it is tho, power to you! | |||
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"That's me right now. Worked all my life and had a breakdown at the end of May. I'm currently off sick. Nothing in the bank, nothing to show from working a job that played part in the breakdown. It covered my bills and that was that. Not had a holiday in 14 years, rarely go out. I'm far from a sponger, but I do feel judged that way. I turn down meets every day because I'm unable to pay my way if we go out. "That's me right now." HUH? Working hard all your life and having to take a break does NOT sound like a sponger. It's a setback and a difficult one.....hardly the same thing! A big Fuck Off to all who judge you for taking time to get back on your feet!" Thank you xx | |||
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"That's me right now. Worked all my life and had a breakdown at the end of May. I'm currently off sick. Nothing in the bank, nothing to show from working a job that played part in the breakdown. It covered my bills and that was that. Not had a holiday in 14 years, rarely go out. I'm far from a sponger, but I do feel judged that way. I turn down meets every day because I'm unable to pay my way if we go out. "That's me right now." HUH? Working hard all your life and having to take a break does NOT sound like a sponger. It's a setback and a difficult one.....hardly the same thing! A big Fuck Off to all who judge you for taking time to get back on your feet!" Yes, this …you've hit a bad patch…that is so different to wilfully sponging off someone else just bcos it suits you. Give yourself a break as it sounds like you're suffering with low self esteem & that has a really negative effect on how we feel about ourselves I hope things improve for you very soon | |||
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"Is there not an amount of responsibility with the person who allows the other to live off them? (Don’t lynch me, I’m not having a pop-just asking!) Hey, no problem…I totally agree with your statement on so many levels. This guy doesn't even claim benefits because he wants to be 'off grid' (raises even more questions) & bcos he says 'They'd make me do pipe-bending courses'. Our 'system' & our society has fostered the circumstances where people can exist like this & I now accept fully my role in enabling him to do this. Ah that’s pants. Sorry you’ve been caught up in it. Definitely agree with you regarding the system, it’s a shame people are able to exploit it so easily. I only ask about ‘enabling’ as once a person withdraws their often unwitting support, it forces the person to get themselves sorted out. Good for you for seeing it for what it is tho, power to you! " Thank You | |||
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"Im a carer for my partner. I get £63 a week for looking after miss c some of the things ive had to do for miss c when shes ill is nobody's business (not that i mind doing them, id do it for nothing, but we need some money coming in) I look after her 24/7 365 yet im still considered unemployed. Yeah i know miss c looks fit in her photos, but what you dont see in the photos is the "fits" (its like an epileptic fit, but miss c is fully awake and feels every second of it).. she has and all the medication it takes just to get her out of bed in the morning.. it takes 110 mg or morphine sulphate plus other medication just for her to be able to try and walk. she has something called Bi-lateral lower leg spasticity type 2 with full body muscle spasms " The benefits system sucks for those of us who need it. | |||
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"That's me right now. Worked all my life and had a breakdown at the end of May. I'm currently off sick. Nothing in the bank, nothing to show from working a job that played part in the breakdown. It covered my bills and that was that. Not had a holiday in 14 years, rarely go out. I'm far from a sponger, but I do feel judged that way. I turn down meets every day because I'm unable to pay my way if we go out. " You're certainly not what I'd see as a sponger, you've gone through a rough patch due to the fact you were working your arse off just to pay the bills and now you're in a difficult position because of the job..............and turning down meets........although I'm a firm believer in women having equality and paying there way, I'm also a gent and would always expect to pay for the first date at least | |||
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"Im a carer for my partner. I get £63 a week for looking after miss c some of the things ive had to do for miss c when shes ill is nobody's business (not that i mind doing them, id do it for nothing, but we need some money coming in) I look after her 24/7 365 yet im still considered unemployed. Yeah i know miss c looks fit in her photos, but what you dont see in the photos is the "fits" (its like an epileptic fit, but miss c is fully awake and feels every second of it).. she has and all the medication it takes just to get her out of bed in the morning.. it takes 110 mg or morphine sulphate plus other medication just for her to be able to try and walk. she has something called Bi-lateral lower leg spasticity type 2 with full body muscle spasms The benefits system sucks for those of us who need it." Yes it does. We hate it living like this. Id gladly go back to work if miss c health was better. | |||
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"Depends if a non-monetary contribution is being made. If it is all one sided and take take take, it is wrong. If no financial contribution is being made, but cooks, cleans, keeps the house etc then he is a house husband. Where on the scale does he sit?" Ahh, interesting….bcos if he does have a defence this is it! He does help by feeding the horses that we look after( if I can't do it) & he will try to save me money by suggesting I buy 'part worn' tyres for the car & take things out of skips that might be useful…its difficult to quantify that sort of help, but I agree that there must be some value to it | |||
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"Good for you! I am still wrestling with binning him-yes, I have a problem!!" I don’t think you can describe falling foul of someone else’s behaviour a problem, it actually means you’re a decent person! He’s the one with the problem. Cut yourself some slack, focus on what’s right for you and put others aside for now good luck! Peach, there’s a huge difference between working yourself into illness and not working for years through choice. Take the time you’ve got off work to recharge and recover properly, although it’s hard while you’re doing it you’ll be much better in the long run and able to get where you want to be | |||
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"Depends if a non-monetary contribution is being made. If it is all one sided and take take take, it is wrong. If no financial contribution is being made, but cooks, cleans, keeps the house etc then he is a house husband. Where on the scale does he sit? Ahh, interesting….bcos if he does have a defence this is it! He does help by feeding the horses that we look after( if I can't do it) & he will try to save me money by suggesting I buy 'part worn' tyres for the car & take things out of skips that might be useful…its difficult to quantify that sort of help, but I agree that there must be some value to it " What you described sounds like my ex husband all over again! I was with him for nearly 10 years, married for half of that. It was only in the last 2-3 years that he finally got off his arse and got a job. He wouldn't even go and sign on when he wasn't working! When he did finally start bringing some money in did I see any of it for the bills? Not a chance! I was still stuck struggling to scrape enough pennies together at the end of the week to buy a loaf of bread. All the time he was off out to the pub with his new work pals, leaving me at home with not enough money to put the heating on or throwing money away in the bookies. Please don't end up wasting years with a loser like I did. | |||
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"Depends if a non-monetary contribution is being made. If it is all one sided and take take take, it is wrong. If no financial contribution is being made, but cooks, cleans, keeps the house etc then he is a house husband. Where on the scale does he sit? Ahh, interesting….bcos if he does have a defence this is it! He does help by feeding the horses that we look after( if I can't do it) & he will try to save me money by suggesting I buy 'part worn' tyres for the car & take things out of skips that might be useful…its difficult to quantify that sort of help, but I agree that there must be some value to it What you described sounds like my ex husband all over again! I was with him for nearly 10 years, married for half of that. It was only in the last 2-3 years that he finally got off his arse and got a job. He wouldn't even go and sign on when he wasn't working! When he did finally start bringing some money in did I see any of it for the bills? Not a chance! I was still stuck struggling to scrape enough pennies together at the end of the week to buy a loaf of bread. All the time he was off out to the pub with his new work pals, leaving me at home with not enough money to put the heating on or throwing money away in the bookies. Please don't end up wasting years with a loser like I did." I'm glad to see that you got out of the situation & that you seem much happier now I feel sorry for the person your ex is with now!! | |||
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"Depends if a non-monetary contribution is being made. If it is all one sided and take take take, it is wrong. If no financial contribution is being made, but cooks, cleans, keeps the house etc then he is a house husband. Where on the scale does he sit? Ahh, interesting….bcos if he does have a defence this is it! He does help by feeding the horses that we look after( if I can't do it) & he will try to save me money by suggesting I buy 'part worn' tyres for the car & take things out of skips that might be useful…its difficult to quantify that sort of help, but I agree that there must be some value to it What you described sounds like my ex husband all over again! I was with him for nearly 10 years, married for half of that. It was only in the last 2-3 years that he finally got off his arse and got a job. He wouldn't even go and sign on when he wasn't working! When he did finally start bringing some money in did I see any of it for the bills? Not a chance! I was still stuck struggling to scrape enough pennies together at the end of the week to buy a loaf of bread. All the time he was off out to the pub with his new work pals, leaving me at home with not enough money to put the heating on or throwing money away in the bookies. Please don't end up wasting years with a loser like I did. I'm glad to see that you got out of the situation & that you seem much happier now I feel sorry for the person your ex is with now!! " Well they've just celebrated their first wedding anniversary so I hope for her sake she's managed to give his head a wobble and he's learnt a few lessons. | |||
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"Depends if a non-monetary contribution is being made. If it is all one sided and take take take, it is wrong. If no financial contribution is being made, but cooks, cleans, keeps the house etc then he is a house husband. Where on the scale does he sit? Ahh, interesting….bcos if he does have a defence this is it! He does help by feeding the horses that we look after( if I can't do it) & he will try to save me money by suggesting I buy 'part worn' tyres for the car & take things out of skips that might be useful…its difficult to quantify that sort of help, but I agree that there must be some value to it What you described sounds like my ex husband all over again! I was with him for nearly 10 years, married for half of that. It was only in the last 2-3 years that he finally got off his arse and got a job. He wouldn't even go and sign on when he wasn't working! When he did finally start bringing some money in did I see any of it for the bills? Not a chance! I was still stuck struggling to scrape enough pennies together at the end of the week to buy a loaf of bread. All the time he was off out to the pub with his new work pals, leaving me at home with not enough money to put the heating on or throwing money away in the bookies. Please don't end up wasting years with a loser like I did. I'm glad to see that you got out of the situation & that you seem much happier now I feel sorry for the person your ex is with now!! Well they've just celebrated their first wedding anniversary so I hope for her sake she's managed to give his head a wobble and he's learnt a few lessons. " Hmmm…its funny that this guy often says how he'd love to marry me | |||
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"Im a carer for my partner. I get £63 a week for looking after miss c some of the things ive had to do for miss c when shes ill is nobody's business (not that i mind doing them, id do it for nothing, but we need some money coming in) I look after her 24/7 365 yet im still considered unemployed. Yeah i know miss c looks fit in her photos, but what you dont see in the photos is the "fits" (its like an epileptic fit, but miss c is fully awake and feels every second of it).. she has and all the medication it takes just to get her out of bed in the morning.. it takes 110 mg or morphine sulphate plus other medication just for her to be able to try and walk. she has something called Bi-lateral lower leg spasticity type 2 with full body muscle spasms The benefits system sucks for those of us who need it. Yes it does. We hate it living like this. Id gladly go back to work if miss c health was better. " It really annoys me when people think those who are disabled or have long term health conditions are playing the system in some way or are scroungers. Nobody would choose to have an incurable illness. Daily life is a massive struggle made harder by the fact the "system" barely gives you enough to put food on the table. You have no life as such, it is just an existence. Why anyone would imagine people choose this is beyond me. | |||
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"Im a carer for my partner. I get £63 a week for looking after miss c some of the things ive had to do for miss c when shes ill is nobody's business (not that i mind doing them, id do it for nothing, but we need some money coming in) I look after her 24/7 365 yet im still considered unemployed. Yeah i know miss c looks fit in her photos, but what you dont see in the photos is the "fits" (its like an epileptic fit, but miss c is fully awake and feels every second of it).. she has and all the medication it takes just to get her out of bed in the morning.. it takes 110 mg or morphine sulphate plus other medication just for her to be able to try and walk. she has something called Bi-lateral lower leg spasticity type 2 with full body muscle spasms The benefits system sucks for those of us who need it. Yes it does. We hate it living like this. Id gladly go back to work if miss c health was better. It really annoys me when people think those who are disabled or have long term health conditions are playing the system in some way or are scroungers. Nobody would choose to have an incurable illness. Daily life is a massive struggle made harder by the fact the "system" barely gives you enough to put food on the table. You have no life as such, it is just an existence. Why anyone would imagine people choose this is beyond me." Exactly. We have no spare cash, we dont drive, we dont go out partying. we dont go on holidays, we cant do half if the things an open minded rock solid couple like us would like to do. The only time we drink alachol is if we go to a social. Miss c does smoke pot, but that does more for her condition than what the doctor prescribes. The only luxury miss c gets is maybe one day a week being pain free. So its not as if we are living it up. | |||
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"That's me right now. Worked all my life and had a breakdown at the end of May. I'm currently off sick. Nothing in the bank, nothing to show from working a job that played part in the breakdown. It covered my bills and that was that. Not had a holiday in 14 years, rarely go out. I'm far from a sponger, but I do feel judged that way. I turn down meets every day because I'm unable to pay my way if we go out. "That's me right now." HUH? Working hard all your life and having to take a break does NOT sound like a sponger. It's a setback and a difficult one.....hardly the same thing! A big Fuck Off to all who judge you for taking time to get back on your feet!" . | |||
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"Lots of judgemenatal people here. Sometimes life circumstances means people can't work. I've just turned down 2 job interviews and am no longer going to look. A life circumstance has meant that my priority currently lies elsewhere. I've worked hard all my life and had many a personal battle yet people that know nothing about me seem to think it's ok to judge me because I currently don't work. Shame on you all that judge another without knowing their battles " Have you and i read the same thread? Who's standing in judgement? | |||
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"…And I do mean NO money, nothing, zero, NADA. I'm not just talking about poor guys, who work hard but are possibly in debt or in poorly paid jobs due to circumstances. I mean guys that are content to live off the labours of another human being. I would welcome your thoughts on this…is it wrong of them? Is it less acceptable for a man rather than a woman to do this? " I don't like the way your singling me out. MODERATOR!!! | |||
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"Lots of judgemenatal people here. Sometimes life circumstances means people can't work. I've just turned down 2 job interviews and am no longer going to look. A life circumstance has meant that my priority currently lies elsewhere. I've worked hard all my life and had many a personal battle yet people that know nothing about me seem to think it's ok to judge me because I currently don't work. Shame on you all that judge another without knowing their battles Have you and i read the same thread? Who's standing in judgement?" The OP for start and a few others | |||
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"Lots of judgemenatal people here. Sometimes life circumstances means people can't work. I've just turned down 2 job interviews and am no longer going to look. A life circumstance has meant that my priority currently lies elsewhere. I've worked hard all my life and had many a personal battle yet people that know nothing about me seem to think it's ok to judge me because I currently don't work. Shame on you all that judge another without knowing their battles Have you and i read the same thread? Who's standing in judgement? The OP for start and a few others " The OP is judging her partner and even herself for enabling him to live off of her. Well that's how i read it. | |||
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"Lots of judgemenatal people here. Sometimes life circumstances means people can't work. I've just turned down 2 job interviews and am no longer going to look. A life circumstance has meant that my priority currently lies elsewhere. I've worked hard all my life and had many a personal battle yet people that know nothing about me seem to think it's ok to judge me because I currently don't work. Shame on you all that judge another without knowing their battles Have you and i read the same thread? Who's standing in judgement? The OP for start and a few others The OP is judging her partner and even herself for enabling him to live off of her. Well that's how i read it." She doesn't mention a partner just guys that don't work nor want to. Right now I don't want to. That doesn't make me a sponger or a bad person | |||
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"Lots of judgemenatal people here. Sometimes life circumstances means people can't work. I've just turned down 2 job interviews and am no longer going to look. A life circumstance has meant that my priority currently lies elsewhere. I've worked hard all my life and had many a personal battle yet people that know nothing about me seem to think it's ok to judge me because I currently don't work. Shame on you all that judge another without knowing their battles Have you and i read the same thread? Who's standing in judgement? The OP for start and a few others The OP is judging her partner and even herself for enabling him to live off of her. Well that's how i read it. She doesn't mention a partner just guys that don't work nor want to. Right now I don't want to. That doesn't make me a sponger or a bad person " Re-read the thread | |||
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"Bottom line is... is that we are all beholdent to Governmental and Large corporation strategies. Theses affect us massively to the point that those that do try hard may not get anywhere and therefore end up in a place where they dont want to be, then as a consequence get judged (wrongfully) by the rest of society. Its all corrupt manipulation during austerity measures.... ie point out the perseeved spongers, not the large corporations that put pressure on Government for cheaper labour costs etc which then in turn caused our own demise in this country... ie NHS and Housing crisis! Personally... if you work or are on the dole... we dont give a care, if we get on as people? Then is all good in our books X" Sorry... for grammatical and others errors, didnt proof read prior to hitting the button lol | |||
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"I wont speak for anyone else as I don't know their circumstances. But I think living off of such little money and not having anything to do to fill your time - because your skint - must be soul destroying! I hate my job at times - and resent paying huge amounts of rent, tax etc ... and not having a lot left at the end of each month and basically living off of credit! But .... Watching daytime TV and not having a purpose for me would be worse. I dont blame these people for wanting to be shit faced by 11am! Some people deal with it better than others. Whiever is trying to get back on their feet I wish them well - and remind them that nearly any job is better than no job! X" Love this.... fair play to you | |||
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"That's me right now. Worked all my life and had a breakdown at the end of May. I'm currently off sick. Nothing in the bank, nothing to show from working a job that played part in the breakdown. It covered my bills and that was that. Not had a holiday in 14 years, rarely go out. I'm far from a sponger, but I do feel judged that way. I turn down meets every day because I'm unable to pay my way if we go out. " Having to take time out due to having a breakdown, is not even close to being comparable to someone who doesn't, and has never worked. When you've gotten to that point the only thing you can do is take time out. There should be no stigma for someone who has burnt out,not copped out. | |||
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"If anyone is on there arse in Blackpool I could get them a job" We are on our way.... lol Whilst we both work full time, we still struggle and always feel like we are on our arse tbh. Nice to see an offer out there fella, fair play to you! | |||
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