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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The claims of an impending launch comes as US Defence Secretary James Mattis warned the US Army to "stand ready" for any attack from North Korea. And UK will be there too I bet . US Government officials say they fear North Korea could launch a missile today, as the rogue nation celebrates a public holiday. I hope this all get sorted out with out a lot getting killed. I hate thinking that we could be going to war again. Do you think it will come to this.?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"The claims of an impending launch comes as US Defence Secretary James Mattis warned the US Army to "stand ready" for any attack from North Korea. And UK will be there too I bet . US Government officials say they fear North Korea could launch a missile today, as the rogue nation celebrates a public holiday. I hope this all get sorted out with out a lot getting killed. I hate thinking that we could be going to war again. Do you think it will come to this.?"

If there's money in it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If there's money in it."
Is there money ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

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Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s a good chance of it. There aren’t many leaders who are crazy enough to launch a nuclear missile and there generally aren’t going to be any winners in a thermonuclear war. But the two leaders that are crazy enough is vladimir and kim jong... I half expected it to begin when i was over in the US a few months back as the Americans had a warship sat on the edge of Korean waters and Kim threatened to kill every last American alive if it entered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope so wipe them all off the planet let's give it back to the plants and animals they deserve it more than us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think all deals will be off with the USA as far as we are concerned...especially with the bombardier fiasco

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there's money in it. Is there money ? "

Some one has to make all those bombs and bullets and equipment. There's a boat load of money to be made in war.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

I don't think it will happen cos the moment north Korea dus do anything trump will hit that big red button and send everything the US has and turn north Korea in to a giount smoking hole in the ground...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?"

No Jo they couldn't interfere with the internal politics of the country but the US would assist the population through the transition of dictatorship to democracy along with China Japan Russia and most importantly South Korea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I see it the main issues are the risk to the civilian population but actually in reality the question of China.

China will not want the mass influx of refugees which would surely travel their way, and I'm also quite sure that they do not relish the thought of Us military intervention on their borders.

Hence it is in China's interest to veto at the UN any military sanctions/war, but also in the interest to put NK back in its box.

As always with international diplomacy there is a bigger picture than just the two protagonists.

Just my humble take on the situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Two 'men's flexing their muscles over who's got the best army.

South Korea will get annihilated before kim is dead unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Two 'men's flexing their muscles over who's got the best army.

South Korea will get annihilated before kim is dead unfortunately."

He hasn't got an arsenal that would have anywhere near that affect in the time it would to destroy his regime .....

He only has a proven arsenal of conventional weaponry

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

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I see thanks ... I don't know how wars work ... Just not sure why China is not sorting this out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

I see thanks ... I don't know how wars work ... Just not sure why China is not sorting this out."

China will remain passive ..... they have nothing to gain other than the removal of a difficult neighbour......

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I think all deals will be off with the USA as far as we are concerned...especially with the bombardier fiasco

Fiasco?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

I see thanks ... I don't know how wars work ... Just not sure why China is not sorting this out.

China will remain passive ..... they have nothing to gain other than the removal of a difficult neighbour......

But they wouldnt want an ally of the usa on its boarder either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time to roll up the sleeves and do what needs to be done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Power crazed business man and power crazed dictator. ...what could possibly go wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

I see thanks ... I don't know how wars work ... Just not sure why China is not sorting this out.

China will remain passive ..... they have nothing to gain other than the removal of a difficult neighbour......

But they wouldnt want an ally of the usa on its boarder either. "

I don't think that would be a condition the Chinese would impose....

All those countries I mentioned with perhaps the exception of Russia are US allies already

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I change my mind from time to time.

Today. No I don't think it will come to anything. It's obviously what I hope for so my thoughts could be getting mixed up with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chill guys. Lil Kim talks a big game but even he must know the real score here.

The single biggest nuke in the world could not level a country the size of the US.

Fact is They don't have the arsenal to wage war against the US and the pissing contest between Lil Kim and tangerine face will die down when we stop paying attention.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the fact that we've been at war with the north since the 50's means we shouldn't be surprised. And in nearly 70 years no diplomatic answer has been found that the north didn't piss on... Enough is enough, turn the place into a parking lot and sell the spaces to the Chinese.. Simple.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Two 'men's flexing their muscles over who's got the best army.

South Korea will get annihilated before kim is dead unfortunately.

He hasn't got an arsenal that would have anywhere near that affect in the time it would to destroy his regime .....

He only has a proven arsenal of conventional weaponry

and seoul (population about 25 million in and around) only sits about 100 miles away from the border

tokyo is only 500 miles away.....

so you better take out every single missle they have.... because it only takes one coming back to cause carnage!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

it will either be some sort of missile test or an underground nuclear bomb test...

they know now they can send a missile over japan without any consequence... so that is the direction they would send the missile.... i am waiting to see if they actually try and shoot one down!

the us and japan have the THAAD anti missile system... but even that only works about 60% of the time...

because if you send a missile up and it misses.... kim wins!

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By *eadySteadyCockCouple
over a year ago

Tredegar

Scary isn’t it, two men with really bad hair cuts with their fingers on the button. Sounds like a 1970s porn film!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

I see thanks ... I don't know how wars work ... Just not sure why China is not sorting this out.

China will remain passive ..... they have nothing to gain other than the removal of a difficult neighbour......

But they wouldnt want an ally of the usa on its boarder either. "
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It seems a lesson everybody's learnt.

NOBODY wants the USA on its border except illegal Mexicans

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

I see thanks ... I don't know how wars work ... Just not sure why China is not sorting this out.

China will remain passive ..... they have nothing to gain other than the removal of a difficult neighbour......

both china and russia, who share borders with north korea, and not going to want a us backed south korea on its border.... so unless it was to become politically "neutral" its would cause concern....

the other issue is that whilst any war would happen, you are going to potentially also have 30 million north korean people/refugee's fleeing for those borders as well.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chill guys. Lil Kim talks a big game but even he must know the real score here.

The single biggest nuke in the world could not level a country the size of the US.

Fact is They don't have the arsenal to wage war against the US and the pissing contest between Lil Kim and tangerine face will die down when we stop paying attention. "

In essence I agree with this. It's a war that would be fought elsewhere no matter what Kim tries to say (South Korea, Japan, etc. but not in the US). But all that does is make me wonder why the hell Trump let us get to this point. Because it's humiliating to the US to have this kind of back and forth with a crappy little country when the only way to win is to commit more resources than it ever wants to commit. Getting to this point was so completely unnecessary and now it's hard to see a way out (at least one that doesn't make the US look even more ridiculous).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In essence I agree with this. It's a war that would be fought elsewhere no matter what Kim tries to say (South Korea, Japan, etc. but not in the US). But all that does is make me wonder why the hell Trump let us get to this point. Because it's humiliating to the US to have this kind of back and forth with a crappy little country when the only way to win is to commit more resources than it ever wants to commit. Getting to this point was so completely unnecessary and now it's hard to see a way out (at least one that doesn't make the US look even more ridiculous). "

Thanks guys I knew there was a reason I liked your profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Two 'men's flexing their muscles over who's got the best army.

South Korea will get annihilated before kim is dead unfortunately.

He hasn't got an arsenal that would have anywhere near that affect in the time it would to destroy his regime .....

He only has a proven arsenal of conventional weaponry

He certainly has 1000s of missles pointed towards the south at all times.

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull

If USA & NK go to war, in the name of peace British troops will be sent in to back up the USA as they always do. Thousands of our service men and women will die defending another country, before the UK becomes a target and thousands of civilians like you or I will become casualties. Is there any point worrying? If it's gonna happen all we can do is hope for the best, and that its all over in a flash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

heard his favourite tune is rocket man by elton john

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please don't kill South Korea though.

I love their movie industry and the women there are stunning.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

They won't do anything, it's all blustering. The US can't nuke north Korea as the fallout would spread well into south Korea and north Korea can't nuke anyone because it's something they can only do once and then their country gets annihilated. It's just two ridiculous humans flexing at each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Please don't kill South Korea though.

I love their movie industry and the women there are stunning. "

Me and you are on the same paige

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's more about the costs and the rhetoric coming from trump...the cost even for a conventional strike on north Korea would be billions as it's got a massive air defence system capable of stopping cruise missiles... far better than anything Iraq had..also China has close ties to north Korea and Russia two countries the USA doesn't want to upset. I doubt north Korea would attempt to attack anyone outside it's own borders in the past the minor conflicts have all been when south Korea or someone else has crossed the borders.... why does the USA have to insist it's the world policeman look at the mess they've left in Iraq and Afghanistan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Me and you are on the same paige

I hope it is the one with all the Korean girls on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just stick 'em both in the Big Brother house and let 'em 'have it out' Mano a Mano.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just stick 'em both in the Big Brother house and let 'em 'have it out' Mano a Mano."
How could they chat too each other just grunt maybe. ,

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By *rightonCheekyMan
over a year ago

Brighton

It's worrying when one of the countries is run by a mentally unhinged egotistical maniac and the other is run by Kim Jong Un

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

go Donald ..wipe the fat person out ...knock him on his arse ....let the north see the outside world ..and prosper ....stop the people of the north starving to death

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They won't do anything, it's all blustering. The US can't nuke north Korea as the fallout would spread well into south Korea and north Korea can't nuke anyone because it's something they can only do once and then their country gets annihilated. It's just two ridiculous humans flexing at each other"

The US can level North Korea with conventional munitions. It doesn't need to resort to Nukes. If China tipped them the wink they would have done it already....

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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Never gonna happen.. NK has been pretty quiet for years.. Kim has had his lavish birthdays and had a fun time being dictator..he never bothered with Obama cos Obama ignored most of his shit..

Trump hasn't been able to ignore Kim's snide remarks so we are where we are, but I bet they follow each other on Twitter..

They are like a pair of petulant school kids that both Need a slap.

If there is any chance that Korea will go to war, just watch how fast the Russia and China reign Kim back in.. they want a communist state sitting there as a buffer between them and US friendly states and Kim is the ideal egotistical idiot they want running it into the ground.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never gonna happen.. NK has been pretty quiet for years.. Kim has had his lavish birthdays and had a fun time being dictator..he never bothered with Obama cos Obama ignored most of his shit..

Trump hasn't been able to ignore Kim's snide remarks so we are where we are, but I bet they follow each other on Twitter..

They are like a pair of petulant school kids that both Need a slap.

I disagree. Russia are assisting them in their research and providing them with some technology and decent grade weaponry. I doubt they would pull them back in as its a good way for them to test boundaries without being directly responsible. Much like pawns on a chess board you use them to be taken to test your opponents strategy and force a move.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there's money in it. Is there money ? "

There is ALWAYS money in war...it really is THAT simple...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The US could annihilate the NK government in 24 hours with conventional missile strikes causing a catastrophic failure of leadership .....

Thanks that's nice to know. x Just say that did that would they take over there country.?

I see thanks ... I don't know how wars work ... Just not sure why China is not sorting this out.

China will remain passive ..... they have nothing to gain other than the removal of a difficult neighbour......

But they wouldnt want an ally of the usa on its boarder either. .

It seems a lesson everybody's learnt.

NOBODY wants the USA on its border except illegal Mexicans

Been to the US and Mexico recently...to be honest, not even Mexico wants them there...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I honestly reckon it will end in nuclear war! People don't understand that it's not only the US and NK. We are US allies. NK can't reach us with missiles but the Russians can! It will be devastating around the world!!

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By *im ZeeMan
over a year ago

north staffs/cheshire

What will be will be. Makes no odds what we mortals say or do so business as usual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What will be will be. Makes no odds what we mortals say or do so business as usual."

Iv been following up and doing research as a boring cunt...

The US have the capability to take out all known launch sites within 3 hours.... that still leaves 3 hours of destruction

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By *im ZeeMan
over a year ago

north staffs/cheshire

"What will be will be. Makes no odds what we mortals say or do so business as usual.

Iv been following up and doing research as a boring cunt...

The US have the capability to take out all known launch sites within 3 hours.... that still leaves 3 hours of destruction"

Yes but if it kicks off it kicks off. It's between 2 idiots who can't be seen to back down. No point worrying about the ifs and buts, just crack on with what you've gotta do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What will be will be. Makes no odds what we mortals say or do so business as usual.

Iv been following up and doing research as a boring cunt...

The US have the capability to take out all known launch sites within 3 hours.... that still leaves 3 hours of destruction

Yes but if it kicks off it kicks off. It's between 2 idiots who can't be seen to back down. No point worrying about the ifs and buts, just crack on with what you've gotta do."

Very true dude.... trump is the worst thing to happen to the world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I see it the main issues are the risk to the civilian population but actually in reality the question of China.

China will not want the mass influx of refugees which would surely travel their way, and I'm also quite sure that they do not relish the thought of Us military intervention on their borders.

Hence it is in China's interest to veto at the UN any military sanctions/war, but also in the interest to put NK back in its box.

As always with international diplomacy there is a bigger picture than just the two protagonists.

Just my humble take on the situation."

China also has a long standing treaty that's been in place since the last Korean war to protect and assist North Korea against attacks. China are getting increasingly pissed off with North Korea but that doesn't guarantee they won't assist them if they are attacked. Things could escalate pretty quickly if Trump doesn't have China's assurance that they won't get involved. I think that's where the danger lies!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there's money in it. Is there money ? "

Apparently north korea has a certain mineral with monetary value worldwide so typical us again there like the bully I the schoolyard that wants the little kids sweets again

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By *im ZeeMan
over a year ago

north staffs/cheshire

"What will be will be. Makes no odds what we mortals say or do so business as usual.

Iv been following up and doing research as a boring cunt...

The US have the capability to take out all known launch sites within 3 hours.... that still leaves 3 hours of destruction

Yes but if it kicks off it kicks off. It's between 2 idiots who can't be seen to back down. No point worrying about the ifs and buts, just crack on with what you've gotta do.

Very true dude.... trump is the worst thing to happen to the world "

There is another way of thinking about it. Every time the world is over populated a massive natural disaster or world war occurs so, just think of it as a world reset..or if your an I.T bod, a reboot.

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By *im ZeeMan
over a year ago

north staffs/cheshire

"What will be will be. Makes no odds what we mortals say or do so business as usual.

Iv been following up and doing research as a boring cunt...

The US have the capability to take out all known launch sites within 3 hours.... that still leaves 3 hours of destruction

Yes but if it kicks off it kicks off. It's between 2 idiots who can't be seen to back down. No point worrying about the ifs and buts, just crack on with what you've gotta do.

Very true dude.... trump is the worst thing to happen to the world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an American, as a Navy veteran of war, and as a rational thinking person, I know that The whole Korean issue has been a thorn in the side of every administration since Eisenhower. If the UN had let MacArthur continue his offensive to the Chinese border, we wouldn't be in this situation now. I voted for Trump because even though he is an annoying, self obsessed, egotistical cretin, he voices views that the restof us have become to PC to utter. Of course nobody wants war, the loss of life, or the pain and suffering. But the North Korean people have been suffering for nearly 70 years now, and the last thing I want is to cow down to some totally corrupt, self serving dictator. Lil Kim is only hoping to bluff a big settlement out of the west, and I wouldn't give him the roll of toilet paper he is going to need when he soils his pants as my country pounds his back to the stone age.

Mark my words, Lil Kim is banking on Trump being like the liberal thinking, tree huggers of the past and I don't think he is...

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