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"Got all ready for the attic dressed smart then got turned away for wearing black trainers. Going to be a boring night at home " cant win. There has been loads of criticism lately that the attic isn't being strict enough with its dress code.. It says no trainers.... you would be turned away from most establishments in town for them to. Or change them quickly and go back | |||
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"Got all ready for the attic dressed smart then got turned away for wearing black trainers. Going to be a boring night at home " Single male = Unwelcome | |||
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"Got all ready for the attic dressed smart then got turned away for wearing black trainers. Going to be a boring night at home Single male = Unwelcome" Not at all. The Attic welcomes everyone. I'm pleased to hear that they seem to be enforcing the dress code. I hate it when clubs say smart casual and guys turn up in jeans and t-shirts... OP, if you want to go just change your footwear. Nita | |||
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"Got all ready for the attic dressed smart then got turned away for wearing black trainers. Going to be a boring night at home Single male = Unwelcome Not at all. The Attic welcomes everyone. I'm pleased to hear that they seem to be enforcing the dress code. I hate it when clubs say smart casual and guys turn up in jeans and t-shirts... OP, if you want to go just change your footwear. Nita" Would do but it has taken me a while to walk there by time I walk home change then go back I won't have the energy for anything else and now you mention casual I am in black jeans and t-shirt but both smart even my trainers are almost new..i know for a fact i been in jeans and t-shirt as I don't wear trousers and I have never warn a shirt there...so i could still get turned away either by too many males or can't go in with jeans...looks like an early night and a wank | |||
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"Yes I may get a pair of trousers and a new shirt...even though I never wear them you never know when needed. Back home now relaxing...it took me a lot of courage to go, it's not easy when you a single shy guy who does not stand out from the crowd. Been a few times and it's not possible to mingle because they in their own circle of friends. So I just join those single guys that stalk the corridors upstairs in the chance of some action (mostly in the glory hole) " that's not true.. We have had guys come up to us and speak and we always chat back even if we aren't looking for guys or they aren't our type x Even as a couple we have to go and join in chats or say hi to those in the group's. Yeah there are plenty that go in a group but if there is an empty seat ask if they mind if you sit there... We often start a chat by complimenting someone's outfit... be it male or female... or tattoos. Although to be fair getting the floggers out normally works | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this? "they aren't smart. You get turned away at any decent place in town too | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this? "Trainers are not smart attire, you would not get in a normal nightclub on a Saturday night wearing them , why on earth would you think they were acceptable? To me they are gym wear, outside a gym surrounding they are chav wear, but then I don't like men wearing gym gear outside a gym. | |||
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"OP if you've been to the attic before you will be well aware they have a sign on the door which outlines acceptable attire. It clearly states no trainers. This information is also readily available on their website. If you turned up under dressed then it is your own fault they wouldn't let you in!" Yeah. He did actually say that himself higher up. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this? "Wear a pair of proper shoes. It's not hard to understand. | |||
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"As far i am aware men are asked to dress down on most clubs once they arrived so why bother with a shoe which he is going to take off anyway.. and these clubs are not conducting international peace conference, after all it is for people to get naughty and filthy... If they aren't smart then why most of the companies allow their employees to wear them to their office.. And who are they to tell me it isn't smart? "Dress down is not expected at most clubs although some do. The attic isn't a dress down club. Neither is new paradise, la chambre, liberty elite all of which are in the east midlands. Clubs may be different in your area. I don't know what kind of company you work for but I have never come across one that considers trainers to be acceptable business wear. Just another thing that must be different in your area! | |||
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"As far i am aware men are asked to dress down on most clubs once they arrived so why bother with a shoe which he is going to take off anyway.. and these clubs are not conducting international peace conference, after all it is for people to get naughty and filthy... If they aren't smart then why most of the companies allow their employees to wear them to their office.. And who are they to tell me it isn't smart?
Dress down is not expected at most clubs although some do.
The attic isn't a dress down club. Neither is new paradise, la chambre, liberty elite all of which are in the east midlands. Clubs may be different in your area.
I don't know what kind of company you work for but I have never come across one that considers trainers to be acceptable business wear. Just another thing that must be different in your area!"i am not talking about Attic here. My take is generally on dress code. my point is, footwear isn't going to matter, if the person who is wearing got shit attitude. About the companies allowing trainer, this is allowed in most of the work place around the world at least on friday. Anyway, i wont get any convincing answer to that rule. Lets just get on with the crowd, thats what most of us do.. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this? "I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female). I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female).
I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress. "Absobloominglutely | |||
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"As far i am aware men are asked to dress down on most clubs once they arrived so why bother with a shoe which he is going to take off anyway.. and these clubs are not conducting international peace conference, after all it is for people to get naughty and filthy... If they aren't smart then why most of the companies allow their employees to wear them to their office.. And who are they to tell me it isn't smart?
Dress down is not expected at most clubs although some do.
The attic isn't a dress down club. Neither is new paradise, la chambre, liberty elite all of which are in the east midlands. Clubs may be different in your area.
I don't know what kind of company you work for but I have never come across one that considers trainers to be acceptable business wear. Just another thing that must be different in your area!
i am not talking about Attic here. My take is generally on dress code.
my point is, footwear isn't going to matter, if the person who is wearing got shit attitude.
About the companies allowing trainer, this is allowed in most of the work place around the world at least on friday.
Anyway, i wont get any convincing answer to that rule. Lets just get on with the crowd, thats what most of us do.. "Because a certain type will turn up in manky old trainers and trackie bottoms and that would put off nice ladies and couples from attending. You might turn up in smart black trainers that really look like shoes. But if they let in the nice trainers they have to let in the manky trainers. So rules be rules and trainers be trainers... anyway if a man cant be arsed to put effort into his footwear, we might assume he would put no effort into sex either! | |||
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"As far i am aware men are asked to dress down on most clubs once they arrived so why bother with a shoe which he is going to take off anyway.. and these clubs are not conducting international peace conference, after all it is for people to get naughty and filthy... If they aren't smart then why most of the companies allow their employees to wear them to their office.. And who are they to tell me it isn't smart?
Dress down is not expected at most clubs although some do.
The attic isn't a dress down club. Neither is new paradise, la chambre, liberty elite all of which are in the east midlands. Clubs may be different in your area.
I don't know what kind of company you work for but I have never come across one that considers trainers to be acceptable business wear. Just another thing that must be different in your area!
i am not talking about Attic here. My take is generally on dress code.
my point is, footwear isn't going to matter, if the person who is wearing got shit attitude.
About the companies allowing trainer, this is allowed in most of the work place around the world at least on friday.
Anyway, i wont get any convincing answer to that rule. Lets just get on with the crowd, thats what most of us do..
Because a certain type will turn up in manky old trainers and trackie bottoms and that would put off nice ladies and couples from attending. You might turn up in smart black trainers that really look like shoes. But if they let in the nice trainers they have to let in the manky trainers. So rules be rules and trainers be trainers... anyway if a man cant be arsed to put effort into his footwear, we might assume he would put no effort into sex either!"That works the same way with shoes. They allow smart clean shoes to be worn, so they have to allow all types of shoes even those that are scuffed and dirty... Rules are rules. | |||
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"Got all ready for the attic dressed smart then got turned away for wearing black trainers. Going to be a boring night at home Single male = Unwelcome" Rubbish. Club's love guy's as they make shit loads of money out of them. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Trainers are not smart attire, you would not get in a normal nightclub on a Saturday night wearing them , why on earth would you think they were acceptable? To me they are gym wear, outside a gym surrounding they are chav wear, but then I don't like men wearing gym gear outside a gym. "I'm a chav | |||
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"As far i am aware men are asked to dress down on most clubs once they arrived so why bother with a shoe which he is going to take off anyway.. and these clubs are not conducting international peace conference, after all it is for people to get naughty and filthy... If they aren't smart then why most of the companies allow their employees to wear them to their office.. And who are they to tell me it isn't smart? " | |||
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"As far i am aware men are asked to dress down on most clubs once they arrived so why bother with a shoe which he is going to take off anyway.. and these clubs are not conducting international peace conference, after all it is for people to get naughty and filthy... If they aren't smart then why most of the companies allow their employees to wear them to their office.. And who are they to tell me it isn't smart?
Dress down is not expected at most clubs although some do.
The attic isn't a dress down club. Neither is new paradise, la chambre, liberty elite all of which are in the east midlands. Clubs may be different in your area.
I don't know what kind of company you work for but I have never come across one that considers trainers to be acceptable business wear. Just another thing that must be different in your area!
i am not talking about Attic here. My take is generally on dress code.
my point is, footwear isn't going to matter, if the person who is wearing got shit attitude.
About the companies allowing trainer, this is allowed in most of the work place around the world at least on friday.
Anyway, i wont get any convincing answer to that rule. Lets just get on with the crowd, thats what most of us do.. "I agree with you. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female).
I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress. "Yeah same. Nice trainers, not gym trainers, nice ones, nice jeans, t-shirt and a blazer to smarten things up and I've never got turned away from a regular club for dressing like that. | |||
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"The only time I wear trousers is to work or an event like a wedding. So you like to come in your pants "Who said I'm wearing any | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female).
I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress. "Well said
Asking people to look presentable is far better. Trainers can look great as can jeans and t shirts and just because people wear them doesn't mean they havn't made an effort.
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"Got all ready for the attic dressed smart then got turned away for wearing black trainers. Going to be a boring night at home " Wow the attic said no  | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female).
I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress.
Well said
Asking people to look presentable is far better. Trainers can look great as can jeans and t shirts and just because people wear them doesn't mean they havn't made an effort.
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"As far i am aware men are asked to dress down on most clubs once they arrived so why bother with a shoe which he is going to take off anyway.. and these clubs are not conducting international peace conference, after all it is for people to get naughty and filthy... If they aren't smart then why most of the companies allow their employees to wear them to their office.. And who are they to tell me it isn't smart?
Dress down is not expected at most clubs although some do.
The attic isn't a dress down club. Neither is new paradise, la chambre, liberty elite all of which are in the east midlands. Clubs may be different in your area.
I don't know what kind of company you work for but I have never come across one that considers trainers to be acceptable business wear. Just another thing that must be different in your area!
i am not talking about Attic here. My take is generally on dress code.
my point is, footwear isn't going to matter, if the person who is wearing got shit attitude.
About the companies allowing trainer, this is allowed in most of the work place around the world at least on friday.
Anyway, i wont get any convincing answer to that rule. Lets just get on with the crowd, thats what most of us do..
Because a certain type will turn up in manky old trainers and trackie bottoms and that would put off nice ladies and couples from attending. You might turn up in smart black trainers that really look like shoes. But if they let in the nice trainers they have to let in the manky trainers. So rules be rules and trainers be trainers... anyway if a man cant be arsed to put effort into his footwear, we might assume he would put no effort into sex either!"Clubs could ask people to look presentable so then manky trainers wouldn't be allowed in but smart ones would. | |||
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"Sorry. But what era are we in? I havent worn trousers to go in a club, of any sort, since I was a pimple faced teenager trying to look older than I was. Can see why trainers are frowned upon just about." Same | |||
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"The only time I wear trousers is to work or an event like a wedding. " Or a funeral, court or job interview. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female).
I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress.
Well said
Asking people to look presentable is far better. Trainers can look great as can jeans and t shirts and just because people wear them doesn't mean they havn't made an effort.
"I like this club, but feel it is mainly the men that make the effort compared to the men in couple and single females, I think it's because they feel pressured and then they don't seem as relaxed. I've seen men that are wearing te correct attire, but their shirt is creased the shoes are awful and trousers too tight; to me that isn't presentable. I've seen women in tshirts and jeans, really old tacky tshirts and often question how it is only this club I see this in. The only reason I have come up with is that they're not turned away and other clubs just say "you can't come in wearing that". It is always down to the clubs discretion, regardless of rules. | |||
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"The only time I wear trousers is to work or an event like a wedding. Or a funeral, court or job interview." I've said before, I must be one of the only females that does rate a suit... And it is because of these things, all negativity | |||
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"The only time I wear trousers is to work or an event like a wedding. Or a funeral, court or job interview. I've said before, I must be one of the only females that does rate a suit... And it is because of these things, all negativity "Doesn't * | |||
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"Wearing a shoe isn't a issues here, but who are they to say that me wearing a trainer isn't smart.. If we start to bring that rule to every single place (local shop, bank, restaurants) then men can't go anywhere. Lol.. Men do put lot of effort to look presentable and I should decide what makes me comfortable and smart and not others. If I say to a lady you can't wear heels and can wear only flat shoes, don't most of the ladies protest against that?. To be honest, actually this is good rule to bring in practice, heels are hazardous to health and safety. At any time that sharp heels may harm others legs...
As I said before no one is going to justify this, may be one of the party organisers in fab can give better reason behind this. ".... you look like you know how to dress. Your argument is blown | |||
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"Wearing a shoe isn't a issues here, but who are they to say that me wearing a trainer isn't smart.. If we start to bring that rule to every single place (local shop, bank, restaurants) then men can't go anywhere. Lol.. Men do put lot of effort to look presentable and I should decide what makes me comfortable and smart and not others. If I say to a lady you can't wear heels and can wear only flat shoes, don't most of the ladies protest against that?. To be honest, actually this is good rule to bring in practice, heels are hazardous to health and safety. At any time that sharp heels may harm others legs...
As I said before no one is going to justify this, may be one of the party organisers in fab can give better reason behind this. "Smart attire is defined by many years of tradition/rules, not by single person or group of people. Your trainers may look 'smarter' then regular trainers, you can call them smart, but that doesn't change the fact that there is no such a thing as smart trainers (defined by smart attire rules). Of course you can wear whatever you like, to be comfortable and look good in it, but every club/restaurant etc have every right to ask their customers to wear what they think is appropriate. You have every right to disagree with those requirements and pass it by. I'm not trying to convince anyone to dress in a certain way, just respect the wishes of owners of clubs | |||
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"Why are some of you guys so miffed about being asked to dress nicely? A lot of ladies make a big effort, myself included. I mean really, is wearing a pair of shoes such a big deal when the ladies have at least spent time doing hair, makeup and possibly been out and purchased sonething to wear for the night... Maybe it's just another good filter. "I'm not a guy, i'm female. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female).
I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress. "The dress codes smart casual no trainers, in most clubs on a saturday night ever since I can remember. It's not a big ask, No ones asking for a formal 3 piece suit | |||
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"Why are some of you guys so miffed about being asked to dress nicely? A lot of ladies make a big effort, myself included. I mean really, is wearing a pair of shoes such a big deal when the ladies have at least spent time doing hair, makeup and possibly been out and purchased sonething to wear for the night... Maybe it's just another good filter. "I agree on that, it is a really good filter. I go to clubs that don't tell me how to dress and where people don't judge me on what type of clothes i'm wearing but only care that i'm pleasant, happy, fun, clean and have made an effort (clean hair and body, painted nails, nice make up, shaved bits, fresh breathe etc) | |||
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"Why are some of you guys so miffed about being asked to dress nicely? A lot of ladies make a big effort, myself included. I mean really, is wearing a pair of shoes such a big deal when the ladies have at least spent time doing hair, makeup and possibly been out and purchased sonething to wear for the night... Maybe it's just another good filter.
I'm not a guy, i'm female."Did I reply to you? My feelings are the same for females that turn up wearing jeans, joggers, tshirts. Ffs it's a night out. Your choice I suppose it just turns some of us cold. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
I think the same, some trainers are nicer than shoes. It also seems the dress code only applies to men, as there are some really scruffy females that go. I think dress code should be "presentable", that way if you're dressed in scruffy clothing you're turned away (male and female).
I've been to many clubs in town that allow "smart" trainers. Not all men look good in shirt and trousers, I'm a fan of casual dress.
The dress codes smart casual no trainers, in most clubs on a saturday night ever since I can remember. It's not a big ask, No ones asking for a formal 3 piece suit "Thank you. It's not a big ask to pop a pair of shoes on compared to the effort a lot of ladies make | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this? "Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine. But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing | |||
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"It is not about me or OP, I raised that to know the real reason and to understand the reason behind that. Most night club in London allow trainers, so why not these sex club? "Because they have a standard of dress that they feel is appropriate for their establishment. Every establishment will have its own dress code, as consumers we have the choice whether to conform or to go elsewhere. Try walking into Harrods in the summer with shorts, flipflops and no shirt and see how far you get! | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing"Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this. Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps. | |||
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"It is not about me or OP, I raised that to know the real reason and to understand the reason behind that. Most night club in London allow trainers, so why not these sex club?
Because they have a standard of dress that they feel is appropriate for their establishment. Every establishment will have its own dress code, as consumers we have the choice whether to conform or to go elsewhere.
Try walking into Harrods in the summer with shorts, flipflops and no shirt and see how far you get!"You honestly think Harrods enforce a dress code? Or that somehow a shop is comparable to a swingers club? | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps. "So the only options are formal, or gym wear or work wear? There's no middle ground? (i did like that jogging became dogging bottoms though! )
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"Why are some of you guys so miffed about being asked to dress nicely? A lot of ladies make a big effort, myself included. I mean really, is wearing a pair of shoes such a big deal when the ladies have at least spent time doing hair, makeup and possibly been out and purchased sonething to wear for the night... Maybe it's just another good filter.
I'm not a guy, i'm female.
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My feelings are the same for females that turn up wearing jeans, joggers, tshirts. Ffs it's a night out. Your choice I suppose it just turns some of us cold. "I was simply pointing out that some females feel the same as some men about the rule. Luckily we all like different things. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing" | |||
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"It is not about me or OP, I raised that to know the real reason and to understand the reason behind that. Most night club in London allow trainers, so why not these sex club?
Because they have a standard of dress that they feel is appropriate for their establishment. Every establishment will have its own dress code, as consumers we have the choice whether to conform or to go elsewhere.
Try walking into Harrods in the summer with shorts, flipflops and no shirt and see how far you get!
You honestly think Harrods enforce a dress code? Or that somehow a shop is comparable to a swingers club?"My point is that dress codes are everywhere and not just restricted to swingers clubs. You may even find yourself asked to leave your local Tesco if you are dressed in a manner that they don't like. We either have the choice of conforming or going elsewhere. An establishment has the right to refuse entry to anyone they like and they actually don't have to give a reason | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps. "You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed."Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in."Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards? Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex"How do you propose clubs differentiate then? | |||
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"It is not about me or OP, I raised that to know the real reason and to understand the reason behind that. Most night club in London allow trainers, so why not these sex club? "do you see where nightclubs have "R.O.A.R" on the front of their doors (or you may never have noticed in your stampede to get inside).... it stands for "Rights Over Admission Reserved"... which means they can actually stop you for any reason and not give you a reason! i would say that swinging clubs that allow trainers are in the minority rather than the majority, and if the club as in appears DO say "no trainers" on both their entrance and their website, then you can't claim willful ignorance | |||
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"I suppose the alternative is that clubs do no screening and let the customers decide. "I suspect that this kind of approach would very quickly lead to a decline in the numbers of ladies and couples attending. | |||
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"I suppose the alternative is that clubs do no screening and let the customers decide.
I suspect that this kind of approach would very quickly lead to a decline in the numbers of ladies and couples attending."It would for us. I think the standards are too low as it is. Is it too much to ask to people to attend dressed sensibly, not pissed or getting pissed, not stoned or getting stoned. | |||
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"I suppose the alternative is that clubs do no screening and let the customers decide.
I suspect that this kind of approach would very quickly lead to a decline in the numbers of ladies and couples attending."you always have people pushing it further and further... someone see trainers and think they can wear jeans, then someone sees jeans and think they can wear t-shirt, then someone sees t-shirt and think they can get away with hoodie.... it would be a race to the bottom and people would just point and say, well they can wear X as a justification... if a club says " you can't wear X,Y and Z, at least you know the level and can't claim ignorance... | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex
How do you propose clubs differentiate then?"Thankfully the clubs I go to aren't full of men who don;t wear deodrant, or smell of sweat tobacco or alcohol but describe it with a cheap suit and shoes. As I;ve said before smart casual, no sprtswear, no dirty or soiled clothes. It really is that simple. I have no problem with no trainers just this ludicrous idea that only semi formal wear equates to a man making an effort. I;ve been to a lot of clubs, I;ve never worn trousers to any of them, always jeans or a kilt. I;ve never worn a tie either and my shoes are always DMs or brothel creepers. Trust me I make an effort. And I would never fo to a club with wjat I feel is a stiffy dress code, if I want to look and feel good, that won;t happen in clothes I wear to work. I still don't understand why you seem to ignore that there is a middle ground that people are either dressed like t"tramps" or have to wear a shirt and trousers. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in."That happens regardless of what people are wearing and what sex they are. I wear casual clothes but i don't stink of tobacco, drink or sweat. I don't see the connection between smelling gross and wearing casual clothes. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex" | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex
How do you propose clubs differentiate then?
Thankfully the clubs I go to aren't full of men who don;t wear deodrant, or smell of sweat tobacco or alcohol but describe it with a cheap suit and shoes.
As I;ve said before smart casual, no sprtswear, no dirty or soiled clothes. It really is that simple. I have no problem with no trainers just this ludicrous idea that only semi formal wear equates to a man making an effort.
I;ve been to a lot of clubs, I;ve never worn trousers to any of them, always jeans or a kilt. I;ve never worn a tie either and my shoes are always DMs or brothel creepers. Trust me I make an effort. And I would never fo to a club with wjat I feel is a stiffy dress code, if I want to look and feel good, that won;t happen in clothes I wear to work.
I still don't understand why you seem to ignore that there is a middle ground that people are either dressed like t"tramps" or have to wear a shirt and trousers."It's not me ignoring at all. I'm asking how would clubs define a dress code that matches what you say? Bearing in mind these are establishments with a lot of experience and that have to moderate an acceptance without offending people ? Or do you condone club bouncers criticising and publicly shaming people who's dress attire they don't care for just on a whim - if there was no written dress code, it would be down to them to interpret  | |||
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"see... i can see the arguement if it is a club where you would have to get undressed straight away, as they are not the clothes you would be wandering around the establishment in, but any club where you are going to be in normal clothes for a while then yes, i think that rules should be followed.... " I agree rules should be followed but maybe more modern rules or maybe different rules for different events. I'm still not sure what they would do about people that smell though ! It doesn't affect me though because the clubs i go to don't make guys wear shirts and shoes etc. | |||
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"I suppose the alternative is that clubs do no screening and let the customers decide.
I suspect that this kind of approach would very quickly lead to a decline in the numbers of ladies and couples attending.
It would for us. I think the standards are too low as it is.
Is it too much to ask to people to attend dressed sensibly, not pissed or getting pissed, not stoned or getting stoned. "I agree with asking people to not get pissed or stoned. | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex
How do you propose clubs differentiate then?
Thankfully the clubs I go to aren't full of men who don;t wear deodrant, or smell of sweat tobacco or alcohol but describe it with a cheap suit and shoes.
As I;ve said before smart casual, no sprtswear, no dirty or soiled clothes. It really is that simple. I have no problem with no trainers just this ludicrous idea that only semi formal wear equates to a man making an effort.
I;ve been to a lot of clubs, I;ve never worn trousers to any of them, always jeans or a kilt. I;ve never worn a tie either and my shoes are always DMs or brothel creepers. Trust me I make an effort. And I would never fo to a club with wjat I feel is a stiffy dress code, if I want to look and feel good, that won;t happen in clothes I wear to work.
I still don't understand why you seem to ignore that there is a middle ground that people are either dressed like t"tramps" or have to wear a shirt and trousers." | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex" | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex
How do you propose clubs differentiate then?
Thankfully the clubs I go to aren't full of men who don;t wear deodrant, or smell of sweat tobacco or alcohol but describe it with a cheap suit and shoes.
As I;ve said before smart casual, no sprtswear, no dirty or soiled clothes. It really is that simple. I have no problem with no trainers just this ludicrous idea that only semi formal wear equates to a man making an effort.
I;ve been to a lot of clubs, I;ve never worn trousers to any of them, always jeans or a kilt. I;ve never worn a tie either and my shoes are always DMs or brothel creepers. Trust me I make an effort. And I would never fo to a club with wjat I feel is a stiffy dress code, if I want to look and feel good, that won;t happen in clothes I wear to work.
I still don't understand why you seem to ignore that there is a middle ground that people are either dressed like t"tramps" or have to wear a shirt and trousers.
It's not me ignoring at all. I'm asking how would clubs define a dress code that matches what you say? Bearing in mind these are establishments with a lot of experience and that have to moderate an acceptance without offending people ? Or do you condone club bouncers criticising and publicly shaming people who's dress attire they don't care for just on a whim - if there was no written dress code, it would be down to them to interpret "You are ignoring it, you said only a few posts earlier what you thought would happen if dress codes were loosened Given that you aper to go to clubs where people turn up without even having a shower what is a dresscode (that can be complied with bu a cheap pair of supermarket shoes and trousers) actually achieving? | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Prehistoric dress codes. A decent pair of Vans or Converse with jeans aand a shirt look fine.
But most swingers clubs seem to think that only shirt, trousers and shoes are smart dress but I;m sure I;m not alone in finding them completely unappealing
Yes but it's a standard as others have said before. Open up the dress codes and guys will turn up in dogging bottoms, muddy trainers, work overalls. Oh hang on someone recently said a club does allow this.
Okay guys, all those who can't be bothered to make a minuscule effort in your appearance message me for the club that allows tramps.
You don't have to look like tramps or dirty or have made no effort though, just presentable. I am always clean and presentable but casually dressed.
Never met you so can't pass comment. But plenty guys will make the barest of efforts. Not even deodorant. It's grim and I implore clubs to set standards to avoid those that can't be bothered, not even for themselves. Far too many clubs allow smelly - tobacco, sweat and alcoholics (stale drink smell) in.
Does that not prove the point that dresscode is in no way an effective way of enforcing minuimum standards?
Don;t get me wrong, I do make an effort and I don't want to see people in soiled work clothes or sportswear but I don;t see why I need to dress like I#m going for a job interview when I;m going t hopefully have sex
How do you propose clubs differentiate then?
Thankfully the clubs I go to aren't full of men who don;t wear deodrant, or smell of sweat tobacco or alcohol but describe it with a cheap suit and shoes.
As I;ve said before smart casual, no sprtswear, no dirty or soiled clothes. It really is that simple. I have no problem with no trainers just this ludicrous idea that only semi formal wear equates to a man making an effort.
I;ve been to a lot of clubs, I;ve never worn trousers to any of them, always jeans or a kilt. I;ve never worn a tie either and my shoes are always DMs or brothel creepers. Trust me I make an effort. And I would never fo to a club with wjat I feel is a stiffy dress code, if I want to look and feel good, that won;t happen in clothes I wear to work.
I still don't understand why you seem to ignore that there is a middle ground that people are either dressed like t"tramps" or have to wear a shirt and trousers.
It's not me ignoring at all. I'm asking how would clubs define a dress code that matches what you say? Bearing in mind these are establishments with a lot of experience and that have to moderate an acceptance without offending people ? Or do you condone club bouncers criticising and publicly shaming people who's dress attire they don't care for just on a whim - if there was no written dress code, it would be down to them to interpret
You are ignoring it, you said only a few posts earlier what you thought would happen if dress codes were loosened
Given that you aper to go to clubs where people turn up without even having a shower what is a dresscode (that can be complied with bu a cheap pair of supermarket shoes and trousers) actually achieving?"Open your own club then you can design your own dress code. Or find a club with a dress code you like. Or argue pointlessly on the internet for hours... so many options | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Trainers are not smart attire, you would not get in a normal nightclub on a Saturday night wearing them , why on earth would you think they were acceptable? To me they are gym wear, outside a gym surrounding they are chav wear, but then I don't like men wearing gym gear outside a gym. "What about when you have to walk home from the gym | |||
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"I always wondered why clubs says no trainers? i can understand when they say no hoodies or cap, but never got a answer for trainers. can someone please tell me the real reason behind this?
Trainers are not smart attire, you would not get in a normal nightclub on a Saturday night wearing them , why on earth would you think they were acceptable? To me they are gym wear, outside a gym surrounding they are chav wear, but then I don't like men wearing gym gear outside a gym.
What about when you have to walk home from the gym "I even goto gym on my formal shoes, I been told here that women will not be impressed if men were trainers.
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