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"Ok ladies, in the light of some other posts today, lets correct some of the misinformation!!! 1 Women tend to interpret everything you do from a RELATIONAL perspective. For example, forget to call and she may not think 'Oh he's just busy' she may well think 'He doesn't value me enough to remember'. Conversely, pay attention to small details and she will likely not think 'This guy must be OCD!', but 'Goodness this guy is really thoughtful and seems to genuinely care for me'. It's so easy when you understand!! So, over to you ladies - your points can be for fab friends or proper relationships. " Sounds like a lot of hard work to me. . It's why women are usually the ones to start an argument because what you say isn't what they hear it think lol. Men are simple soles. Women are like the universe. Will never be solved lol | |||
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"3. It is impossible to win an argument with a woman " This is true, futile trying! | |||
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"3. It is impossible to win an argument with a woman " Oh no it isn't! You're quite wrong and let that be the last word on it! | |||
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"Ok ladies, in the light of some other posts today, lets correct some of the misinformation!!! 1 Women tend to interpret everything you do from a RELATIONAL perspective. For example, forget to call and she may not think 'Oh he's just busy' she may well think 'He doesn't value me enough to remember'. Conversely, pay attention to small details and she will likely not think 'This guy must be OCD!', but 'Goodness this guy is really thoughtful and seems to genuinely care for me'. It's so easy when you understand!! So, over to you ladies - your points can be for fab friends or proper relationships. Sounds like a lot of hard work to me. . It's why women are usually the ones to start an argument because what you say isn't what they hear it think lol. Men are simple soles. Women are like the universe. Will never be solved lol " And yet many men do actually learn to understand a bit lol! We are wired differently, which means we interpret things really differently, and can both benefit from understanding that difference lol! | |||
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"3. It is impossible to win an argument with a woman Oh no it isn't! You're quite wrong and let that be the last word on it! " I see what you did there | |||
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"Just because she will let you treat her like a "slut" in the bedroom, doesn't mean it is like that every time you spend time together. That behaviour from her is a gift to you, and you get it because she wants to, not because you tell her to. That's for you self centred egotistical pricks who have no fucking idea or clue about respect." Boom! | |||
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"Just because she will let you treat her like a "slut" in the bedroom, doesn't mean it is like that every time you spend time together. That behaviour from her is a gift to you, and you get it because she wants to, not because you tell her to. That's for you self centred egotistical pricks who have no fucking idea or clue about respect." With knobs on | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? " Correct. But, in an 'average' overall, women do have some common characteristics that are understood by other women, and mis-interpreted on average, by men. | |||
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"Just because we’ve got the arse doesn’t mean it’s that time of the month.... " That's why you've got an arse | |||
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"Never suggest a woman is being over-emotional. EVER." Haha, sensible! ! | |||
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"Just because something is not important to YOU, doesn't mean it isn't important to HER. There is such a thing as understanding you can be different and it doesn't mean either of you are wrong. What is wrong though, is telling her she shouldn't care about something because it doesn't interest you. That is belittling her, caring about something is an emotion. " Very good point. | |||
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"Maybe I’m a crap woman but I wouldn’t say I’m anymore emotional then men I know. And I say what I mean as do most other women I know " I know some very sensitive and emotional men too - but I do believe our perspective is often very different - we see different angles, and though both are true, they have very different meaning sometimes. | |||
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"Try being sympathetic, and saying something caring like 'I can understand you feeling emotional, maybe it's because you've got PMT and put a bit of weight on' . MrB A&E Ward 3." | |||
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"Ok ladies, in the light of some other posts today, lets correct some of the misinformation!!! 1 Women tend to interpret everything you do from a RELATIONAL perspective. For example, forget to call and she may not think 'Oh he's just busy' she may well think 'He doesn't value me enough to remember'. Conversely, pay attention to small details and she will likely not think 'This guy must be OCD!', but 'Goodness this guy is really thoughtful and seems to genuinely care for me'. It's so easy when you understand!! So, over to you ladies - your points can be for fab friends or proper relationships. Sounds like a lot of hard work to me. . It's why women are usually the ones to start an argument because what you say isn't what they hear it think lol. Men are simple soles. Women are like the universe. Will never be solved lol And yet many men do actually learn to understand a bit lol! We are wired differently, which means we interpret things really differently, and can both benefit from understanding that difference lol!" Yeah true. But why not hear what we say instead of thinking there's a read between the line but here?. I let women know that what i say is what i mean. Don't try and 2nd guess me as there isn't anyting to guess. Would be a lot simpler no? | |||
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"2. Emotionally intelligent women do not 'test' men or play games, they may be guarded while they observe and assess and suss out who and what you are, but they want you to be yourself, be authentic!" This | |||
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"Haven't read any of this. Is it worth it?" Are you saying you weren't listening? Typical! | |||
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"Haven't read any of this. Is it worth it?" If you know that not all women are the same and are happy to interact with them as equals...no. | |||
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"2. Emotionally intelligent women do not 'test' men or play games, they may be guarded while they observe and assess and suss out who and what you are, but they want you to be yourself, be authentic!" | |||
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"Haven't read any of this. Is it worth it? If you know that not all women are the same and are happy to interact with them as equals...no." That's fine. I've had to read your answer to my question a few times and I don't think there's anything to learn by reading it Thanks | |||
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" Yeah true. But why not hear what we say instead of thinking there's a read between the line but here?. I let women know that what i say is what i mean." But what you say and do always has implications in the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is what concerns me more! Its like tactics vs strategy. You cannot say the other is irrelevant whichever is your concern. | |||
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"When it comes to women, you can't win in any situation. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't. " See ya doofus this is part of the problem. Why is it about winning? I don't want to be in competition with anyone, whether they be friend, lover, hubster. Support and encouragement, not winners and losers. Apart from my sister, she's a cunt and a loser with a capital L. | |||
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" Women are the reason homosexuality is so popular amongst men." I think a fair few homosexual men would dispute that! | |||
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" Women are the reason homosexuality is so popular amongst men. I think a fair few homosexual men would dispute that! " Women have no sense of humour. | |||
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"People only need to understand that we're all individuals. " | |||
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" Women are the reason homosexuality is so popular amongst men. I think a fair few homosexual men would dispute that! Women have no sense of humour. " Yeah they do, this thread is a prime example | |||
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"Haven't read any of this. Is it worth it? If you know that not all women are the same and are happy to interact with them as equals...no. That's fine. I've had to read your answer to my question a few times and I don't think there's anything to learn by reading it Thanks" Well there ya go. | |||
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" Women are the reason homosexuality is so popular amongst men. I think a fair few homosexual men would dispute that! Women have no sense of humour. " Not many people share yours whatever their gender, it's true lol! | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? Correct. But, in an 'average' overall, women do have some common characteristics that are understood by other women, and mis-interpreted on average, by men." Perhaps but then what is an average other than a theoretical mathematical construct. I meet lots of people... not fab meets... I have yet to meet an average. Everyone is unique... | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? Correct. But, in an 'average' overall, women do have some common characteristics that are understood by other women, and mis-interpreted on average, by men. Perhaps but then what is an average other than a theoretical mathematical construct. I meet lots of people... not fab meets... I have yet to meet an average. Everyone is unique..." Of course, and yet there are tendancies which I have found are very gender specific. | |||
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" Women are the reason homosexuality is so popular amongst men. I think a fair few homosexual men would dispute that! Women have no sense of humour. Yeah they do, this thread is a prime example " There ya go.... | |||
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"We can parallel park. I am the Queen of parallel parking and map reading lol! " You're pretty good with a camera as well, Frisky | |||
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"We can parallel park. I am the Queen of parallel parking and map reading lol! You're pretty good with a camera as well, Frisky " The raw material has to be good though...;-) | |||
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"Try being sympathetic, and saying something caring like 'I can understand you feeling emotional, maybe it's because you've got PMT and put a bit of weight on' . MrB A&E Ward 3." | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? Correct. But, in an 'average' overall, women do have some common characteristics that are understood by other women, and mis-interpreted on average, by men. Perhaps but then what is an average other than a theoretical mathematical construct. I meet lots of people... not fab meets... I have yet to meet an average. Everyone is unique... Of course, and yet there are tendancies which I have found are very gender specific." You want to explain that a bit more? It sounds a bit like stereotyping and we all do that to some extent but I try to avoid prejudging people based on group identifiers... Partly because I'm not very good at it and I'm always amazed by the capacity of people to surprise me or confound the idea that people are that easy to put in little boxes.. dependant on gender or any other criteria | |||
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"When a woman says she is "fine". She is mulling and contemplating over how to punish you!!" According to an old boss; when a woman says "fine" she is Fucked up, Insecure, Neurotic and Emotional. | |||
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"When a woman says she is "fine". She is mulling and contemplating over how to punish you!! According to an old boss; when a woman says "fine" she is Fucked up, Insecure, Neurotic and Emotional. " Note to self NOC. | |||
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"We can parallel park. I am the Queen of parallel parking and map reading lol! " I have to turn the map to the direction I'm facing... | |||
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"We can parallel park. I am the Queen of parallel parking and map reading lol! I have to turn the map to the direction I'm facing... " See now that's wrong on so many levels | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? Correct. But, in an 'average' overall, women do have some common characteristics that are understood by other women, and mis-interpreted on average, by men. Perhaps but then what is an average other than a theoretical mathematical construct. I meet lots of people... not fab meets... I have yet to meet an average. Everyone is unique..." I didn't mean an average person. I mean as a whole, a particular sex has some common traits. Many people in that sex have none of those traits and others might have more. That's what I meant with the clumsy word 'average'. Women tend to be more empathatic then men. Some women arent at all, some men are very. But as a 'whole' that trait is stronger in women. | |||
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"We can parallel park. I am the Queen of parallel parking and map reading lol! I have to turn the map to the direction I'm facing... " Did you ever manage to locate Penrith, Cumbria, England? CA11 9BL should work as a postcode....... | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? Correct. But, in an 'average' overall, women do have some common characteristics that are understood by other women, and mis-interpreted on average, by men. Perhaps but then what is an average other than a theoretical mathematical construct. I meet lots of people... not fab meets... I have yet to meet an average. Everyone is unique... I didn't mean an average person. I mean as a whole, a particular sex has some common traits. Many people in that sex have none of those traits and others might have more. That's what I meant with the clumsy word 'average'. Women tend to be more empathatic then men. Some women arent at all, some men are very. But as a 'whole' that trait is stronger in women." I understand the theory and the conventional idea thst women do empathy caring nurturing... some women and guys do man cave hunting protecting etc...some men Maybe there is some truth in it and maybe it's just society and history have ascribed those roles to genders. But if you ever see a really pissed off woman I'm not sure empathy is the first thought that springs to mind. And I might be stereotyping now but most guys will do something and then move on and go get it... not all... most women again not all seem to have a capacity to bear a grudge for ever.. I just wonder if there is more crossover more in common that thst which divided us... | |||
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"4. Women are all individuals not a borg collective and don’t all think or act the same" if seven of nine is on here please PM me | |||
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"When a woman says she is "fine". She is mulling and contemplating over how to punish you!!" she is preparing to fine you | |||
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"2. Emotionally intelligent women do not 'test' men or play games, they may be guarded while they observe and assess and suss out who and what you are, but they want you to be yourself, be authentic!" | |||
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"When a woman says she is "fine". She is mulling and contemplating over how to punish you!!she is preparing to fine you " No she is thinking on how to chew you alive | |||
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" It sounds a bit like stereotyping and we all do that to some extent but I try to avoid prejudging people based on group identifiers... " Oh I put no value judgement on the relative approaches at all, that's not what this is about. My opening para is the classic example - women have tendancy to interpret inter-personal statements in a relational way, they will tend to respond to their perception of what they perceive it MEANS in terms of a relationship far more than men, who tend to perceive the literal and topical meaning far more often. This leads to a lot of misunderstanding, both ways, and if we both understood that - it might lead to fewer IMO. That's all I am saying - my thread was in response to the gross misconceptions in another thread - and those misconceptions are the only thing I am 'judging' today! | |||
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"When a woman says she is "fine". She is mulling and contemplating over how to punish you!!she is preparing to fine you No she is thinking on how to chew you alive " you can chew me any time | |||
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" It sounds a bit like stereotyping and we all do that to some extent but I try to avoid prejudging people based on group identifiers... Oh I put no value judgement on the relative approaches at all, that's not what this is about. My opening para is the classic example - women have tendancy to interpret inter-personal statements in a relational way, they will tend to respond to their perception of what they perceive it MEANS in terms of a relationship far more than men, who tend to perceive the literal and topical meaning far more often. This leads to a lot of misunderstanding, both ways, and if we both understood that - it might lead to fewer IMO. That's all I am saying - my thread was in response to the gross misconceptions in another thread - and those misconceptions are the only thing I am 'judging' today!" It wasn't a critism...and I haven't seen the other thread so not sure how the two relate. I think especially on fab where it txt driven it's harder to pick up on the none verbal signals than in real life!... But perhaps guy... some guys are more literal than women and see things less in shades if grey or in terms of how they may be misinterpreted by others. I wonder if that's a function of the limitations of txt to communicate rather than a relational thing? I know sometimed my inability to put into words things I might like to has created inferences in others that were not intended in a message. Perhaps the medium is part of the problem? | |||
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" It sounds a bit like stereotyping and we all do that to some extent but I try to avoid prejudging people based on group identifiers... Oh I put no value judgement on the relative approaches at all, that's not what this is about. My opening para is the classic example - women have tendancy to interpret inter-personal statements in a relational way, they will tend to respond to their perception of what they perceive it MEANS in terms of a relationship far more than men, who tend to perceive the literal and topical meaning far more often. This leads to a lot of misunderstanding, both ways, and if we both understood that - it might lead to fewer IMO. That's all I am saying - my thread was in response to the gross misconceptions in another thread - and those misconceptions are the only thing I am 'judging' today! It wasn't a critism...and I haven't seen the other thread so not sure how the two relate. I think especially on fab where it txt driven it's harder to pick up on the none verbal signals than in real life!... But perhaps guy... some guys are more literal than women and see things less in shades if grey or in terms of how they may be misinterpreted by others. I wonder if that's a function of the limitations of txt to communicate rather than a relational thing? I know sometimed my inability to put into words things I might like to has created inferences in others that were not intended in a message. Perhaps the medium is part of the problem?" Oh that's a whole different barrel of worms lol! No, I am talking about communication/interpretation in real relationships. It's a little like the difference between tactics and strategy, it's a difference of perspective. | |||
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"4. Women are all individuals not a borg collective and don’t all think or act the same" Would you like me to put that on the minutes of the next collective meeting? | |||
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"Women don't necessarily understand themselves better than men do. A lot of them have absolutely no idea why they're crazy and they don't even give much thought to it. " Yes, I wouldn't argue with that lol! I'm fascinated by psychology and love to try to understand myself better, and those I care about. | |||
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"3. It is impossible to win an argument with a woman " I just agree to disagree | |||
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" It sounds a bit like stereotyping and we all do that to some extent but I try to avoid prejudging people based on group identifiers... Oh I put no value judgement on the relative approaches at all, that's not what this is about. My opening para is the classic example - women have tendancy to interpret inter-personal statements in a relational way, they will tend to respond to their perception of what they perceive it MEANS in terms of a relationship far more than men, who tend to perceive the literal and topical meaning far more often. This leads to a lot of misunderstanding, both ways, and if we both understood that - it might lead to fewer IMO. That's all I am saying - my thread was in response to the gross misconceptions in another thread - and those misconceptions are the only thing I am 'judging' today! It wasn't a critism...and I haven't seen the other thread so not sure how the two relate. I think especially on fab where it txt driven it's harder to pick up on the none verbal signals than in real life!... But perhaps guy... some guys are more literal than women and see things less in shades if grey or in terms of how they may be misinterpreted by others. I wonder if that's a function of the limitations of txt to communicate rather than a relational thing? I know sometimed my inability to put into words things I might like to has created inferences in others that were not intended in a message. Perhaps the medium is part of the problem? Oh that's a whole different barrel of worms lol! No, I am talking about communication/interpretation in real relationships. It's a little like the difference between tactics and strategy, it's a difference of perspective. " Oops... now real world real relationships that's where it does get complicated. Strategy is just the direction tactics the mechanics but that's more game playing and corporate gaming. Understand what your saying I think but perceptions and reality both need to be looked at in the context of what each desires in a relationship...and I'm not sure that is ever so different between the genders either. My gran... a wise old lady but crap at maths used to say of relationships if they are going to work it should be 75% give 25% take by both parties. But then the thing that makes relationships work or not...its not the maths...its maybe communication...and it's definitely that wanting for the other person everything they wish for themselves ...and then some. Maybe we all just need that ability to listen better understand more and accept others and their dreams without trying to manipulate them to out own point of view? | |||
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"The way to a woman's pants is through her stomach " True say | |||
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"The way to a woman's pants is through her stomach True say " The reverse-alien. | |||
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"2. Emotionally intelligent women do not 'test' men or play games, they may be guarded while they observe and assess and suss out who and what you are, but they want you to be yourself, be authentic!" Emotionally intelligent and emotionally mature | |||
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"I don't want to understand women, I just want access to their various holes." | |||
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"The way to a woman's pants is through her stomach True say The reverse-alien. " That response moved me in sexual ways. Legit. | |||
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" It sounds a bit like stereotyping and we all do that to some extent but I try to avoid prejudging people based on group identifiers... Oh I put no value judgement on the relative approaches at all, that's not what this is about. My opening para is the classic example - women have tendancy to interpret inter-personal statements in a relational way, they will tend to respond to their perception of what they perceive it MEANS in terms of a relationship far more than men, who tend to perceive the literal and topical meaning far more often. This leads to a lot of misunderstanding, both ways, and if we both understood that - it might lead to fewer IMO. That's all I am saying - my thread was in response to the gross misconceptions in another thread - and those misconceptions are the only thing I am 'judging' today! It wasn't a critism...and I haven't seen the other thread so not sure how the two relate. I think especially on fab where it txt driven it's harder to pick up on the none verbal signals than in real life!... But perhaps guy... some guys are more literal than women and see things less in shades if grey or in terms of how they may be misinterpreted by others. I wonder if that's a function of the limitations of txt to communicate rather than a relational thing? I know sometimed my inability to put into words things I might like to has created inferences in others that were not intended in a message. Perhaps the medium is part of the problem? Oh that's a whole different barrel of worms lol! No, I am talking about communication/interpretation in real relationships. It's a little like the difference between tactics and strategy, it's a difference of perspective. Oops... now real world real relationships that's where it does get complicated. Strategy is just the direction tactics the mechanics but that's more game playing and corporate gaming. Understand what your saying I think but perceptions and reality both need to be looked at in the context of what each desires in a relationship...and I'm not sure that is ever so different between the genders either. My gran... a wise old lady but crap at maths used to say of relationships if they are going to work it should be 75% give 25% take by both parties. But then the thing that makes relationships work or not...its not the maths...its maybe communication...and it's definitely that wanting for the other person everything they wish for themselves ...and then some. Maybe we all just need that ability to listen better understand more and accept others and their dreams without trying to manipulate them to out own point of view? " No attempt to manipulate is acceptable, I'm saying the opposite really - if we understand the difference in perception we can understand and respond to behaviour and communication differently. Hopefully anyway! Tactics and strategy can be applied to the same common aim after all - strategists and tacticians can work together if they understand the qualitative difference in approach. | |||
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" It sounds a bit like stereotyping and we all do that to some extent but I try to avoid prejudging people based on group identifiers... Oh I put no value judgement on the relative approaches at all, that's not what this is about. My opening para is the classic example - women have tendancy to interpret inter-personal statements in a relational way, they will tend to respond to their perception of what they perceive it MEANS in terms of a relationship far more than men, who tend to perceive the literal and topical meaning far more often. This leads to a lot of misunderstanding, both ways, and if we both understood that - it might lead to fewer IMO. That's all I am saying - my thread was in response to the gross misconceptions in another thread - and those misconceptions are the only thing I am 'judging' today! It wasn't a critism...and I haven't seen the other thread so not sure how the two relate. I think especially on fab where it txt driven it's harder to pick up on the none verbal signals than in real life!... But perhaps guy... some guys are more literal than women and see things less in shades if grey or in terms of how they may be misinterpreted by others. I wonder if that's a function of the limitations of txt to communicate rather than a relational thing? I know sometimed my inability to put into words things I might like to has created inferences in others that were not intended in a message. Perhaps the medium is part of the problem? Oh that's a whole different barrel of worms lol! No, I am talking about communication/interpretation in real relationships. It's a little like the difference between tactics and strategy, it's a difference of perspective. " Effective communication in a M/F relationship must be the single most hardest tbing. Not only undestanding what is said but what is not said. Its a minefield . If you are really im tune with your partner I guess its easier. | |||
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"The clitoris is located near the front junction of the labia minora, above the opening of the urethra. You're welcome " Problem solved, let's all move on now? | |||
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"The clitoris is located near the front junction of the labia minora, above the opening of the urethra. You're welcome " Is it on google maps? | |||
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"The clitoris is located near the front junction of the labia minora, above the opening of the urethra. You're welcome " We need diagrams | |||
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"The clitoris is located near the front junction of the labia minora, above the opening of the urethra. You're welcome We need diagrams " Diagrams or photos? | |||
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"The clitoris is located near the front junction of the labia minora, above the opening of the urethra. You're welcome We need diagrams Diagrams or photos? " Photos would be better, obviously | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? " you all have one thing in common which makes you act similarly..estrogen! if god exist cheers for that hormone mate! | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? you all have one thing in common which makes you act similarly..estrogen! if god exist cheers for that hormone mate! " Without it we'd all be up the creek. | |||
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"The way to a woman's pants is through her stomach " Wrong it's via a Cartier shop | |||
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"The way to a woman's pants is through her stomach Wrong it's via a Cartier shop " Wrong, stomach | |||
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"if women understood men,this would not be an issue." Like a book, hopefully the gripping kind.... | |||
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"There is no such thing as women. They are not a collective with one mind one thought process one set of emotions... Neither are guys... We are not preprogrammed like machines... Isn't that what makes it fun interesting exciting alluring... To actually get to know the person not just lump everyone together by gender? you all have one thing in common which makes you act similarly..estrogen! if god exist cheers for that hormone mate! " Seconded...... | |||
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