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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean

Suspect 1 is putting up a buggy outside for a toddler they are about to take out.

Toddler knocks on door.

Suspect 2 who is inside working, walks to door.

Meanwhile suspect 1 puts toddler into buggy outside the gate.

Suspect 2 says...... oh I thought you were knocking.

Suspect 1 walks into house just for a moment to get a near item and is followed by suspect 2.

Suspect 1 turns and says ...... OMG you left the toddler on the step.

Suspect 2 says, no YOU left the baby on the step.

Okay Judge. Who left the baby on the step?

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By *anny77Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Suspect 1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gwanny are you sure the toddler is not a midget ?

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Gwanny are you sure the toddler is not a midget ? "

He was wearing a red mac and looking back ............

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Suspect 1"

What is your evidence / summing up M, lud.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Suspect 1.

Suspect 2 had never taken over looking after the toddler.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

Nobody, the toddler wasn't on the step, it was outside the gate

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Suspect 1.

Suspect 2 had never taken over looking after the toddler."

But both actually responsible as both knew neither was with the baby.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

Suspect 1 & 2 both guilty

BUT

As Suspect 1 went in the house 1st. Suspect 2 shood see Suspect 1 going in to the house and ther for Suspect 2 shood wotch the toddler.

Case closed

Hits Juge hammer on bit of wood

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Nobody, the toddler wasn't on the step, it was outside the gate "

Doh. Yes.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"Nobody, the toddler wasn't on the step, it was outside the gate "

ooooooo good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Suspect 2.

Suspect 2 had a momentary lapse of concentration and assuming this isn't a prima facie case, there is no mens rea.

I suggest subject 2 was trying to avoid all responsibility whilst quaffing tea and was quite clearly negligent and trying to avoid responsibility....witg the required intent to do so.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

What if the pushchair was on a moving conveyor belt travelling at the same but opposite speed...

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Suspect 1.

Suspect 2 had never taken over looking after the toddler."

Very good summing up m'lud.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Suspect 1 & 2 both guilty

BUT

As Suspect 1 went in the house 1st. Suspect 2 shood see Suspect 1 going in to the house and ther for Suspect 2 shood wotch the toddler.

Case closed

Hits Juge hammer on bit of wood

"

Suspect 2 was never with the baby as mentioned by our learned friend above. It can't be assumed that suspect 2 had sight of the baby on the step

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Nobody, the toddler wasn't on the step, it was outside the gate "

Dohhhhhhhh ......... Who did it ?

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


" Suspect 2.

Suspect 2 had a momentary lapse of concentration and assuming this isn't a prima facie case, there is no mens rea.

I suggest subject 2 was trying to avoid all responsibility whilst quaffing tea and was quite clearly negligent and trying to avoid responsibility....witg the required intent to do so."

How can suspect 2 be responsible if they were not minding said toddler at the time.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"What if the pushchair was on a moving conveyor belt travelling at the same but opposite speed..."

Opposite to what ?

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By *anny77Man
over a year ago

glasgow


"Suspect 1

What is your evidence / summing up M, lud."

Suspect 1 was looking after toddler - getting into pushchair etc. The only reason suspect 2 even came to the door was because of the knock, which the toddler was only able to do because suspect 1 was already quite lax in the first place.

Suspect 1 should not have made the assumption that suspect 2 was now primary caregiver in that moment without at least having a discussion along the lines of "need to pop out of the house. Can you stay here for a minute!"

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By *ornylittlesubWoman
over a year ago

Grangemouth

The little known suspect 3!

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By *amelman7823Man
over a year ago

Ashbourne

This is suspect 1s side of the story...shirley suspect 2 is required to give evidence

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Suspect 1

What is your evidence / summing up M, lud.

Suspect 1 was looking after toddler - getting into pushchair etc. The only reason suspect 2 even came to the door was because of the knock, which the toddler was only able to do because suspect 1 was already quite lax in the first place.

Suspect 1 should not have made the assumption that suspect 2 was now primary caregiver in that moment without at least having a discussion along the lines of "need to pop out of the house. Can you stay here for a minute!""

You rest your case very well your honour.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"What if the pushchair was on a moving conveyor belt travelling at the same but opposite speed...

Opposite to what ?"

An aeroplane.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"This is suspect 1s side of the story...shirley suspect 2 is required to give evidence"

This is not anyone's side. This is simply an unemotional relaying of events.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll say suspect one

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"This is suspect 1s side of the story...shirley suspect 2 is required to give evidence"

In the interests of fairness I asked suspect 2 to give their version of events and they said .........

Suspect 1 is putting up a buggy outside for a toddler they are about to take out.

Toddler knocks on door.

Suspect 2 who is inside working, walks to door.

Meanwhile suspect 1 puts toddler into buggy outside the gate.

Suspect 2 says...... oh I thought you were knocking.

Suspect 1 walks into house just for a moment to get a near item and is followed by suspect 2.

Suspect 1 turns and says ...... OMG you left the toddler on the step.

Suspect 2 says, no YOU left the baby on the step.

Okay Judge. Who left the baby on the step?

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"I'll say suspect one "

You deserve that halo

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

The toddler has to take responsibility for their own actions.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"The toddler has to take responsibility for their own actions. "

He did! He sat and stretched his neck looking for someone.

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over a year ago


"I'll say suspect one

You deserve that halo "

Why thank you

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull

When the toddler knocked on the door, which side was it on?

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By *anny77Man
over a year ago

glasgow


"Suspect 1

What is your evidence / summing up M, lud.

Suspect 1 was looking after toddler - getting into pushchair etc. The only reason suspect 2 even came to the door was because of the knock, which the toddler was only able to do because suspect 1 was already quite lax in the first place.

Suspect 1 should not have made the assumption that suspect 2 was now primary caregiver in that moment without at least having a discussion along the lines of "need to pop out of the house. Can you stay here for a minute!"

You rest your case very well your honour. "

I forgot to bang my gavel!!

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"When the toddler knocked on the door, which side was it on?"

The outside.......... ?

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Suspect 1

What is your evidence / summing up M, lud.

Suspect 1 was looking after toddler - getting into pushchair etc. The only reason suspect 2 even came to the door was because of the knock, which the toddler was only able to do because suspect 1 was already quite lax in the first place.

Suspect 1 should not have made the assumption that suspect 2 was now primary caregiver in that moment without at least having a discussion along the lines of "need to pop out of the house. Can you stay here for a minute!"

You rest your case very well your honour.

I forgot to bang my gavel!!"

She said you bang her now.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"Suspect 1 & 2 both guilty

BUT

As Suspect 1 went in the house 1st. Suspect 2 shood see Suspect 1 going in to the house and ther for Suspect 2 shood wotch the toddler.

Case closed

Hits Juge hammer on bit of wood

Suspect 2 was never with the baby as mentioned by our learned friend above. It can't be assumed that suspect 2 had sight of the baby on the step"

That may be....

However

As Suspect 2 sed ...... oh I thought you were knocking.

note the word (sed)

This Inderkats that Suspect 2 can see Suspect 1 with the toddler to say that. As Suspect 1 is putting the toddler in the buggy at the time.

And wen Suspect 2 follows Suspect 1 in to the house it surgests Suspect 1 & 2 eather no eatch other Verry well or even live in the same house.

So as Suspect 2 can see Suspect 1 going in the house and leeving the toddler. as a responsible adult Suspect 2 shood wotch the toddler. Even if Suspect 1 has not arsked Suspect 2 even thow Suspect 1 also as a responsible adult (shood) have asked Suspect 2 to wotch over the toddler 1st befor leeving.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

Immigrants

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"[Removed by poster at 23/09/17 15:42:12]"

What is suspect 1 is the toddlers parent and suspect 2 is not and the parent was visiting suspect 2.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Immigrants"

What ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Policeman was knocking on the door, and asking ! witch one of you fucking idiots left the baby unattended in the street.

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"When the toddler knocked on the door, which side was it on?

The outside.......... ?"

Then Suspect 1 left the child as they were both outside, Suspect 2 was inside the house with the door closed, it is a logical suggestion that they could of been unaware of the presence of Suspect 1 and the toddler outside until opening the door after the toddler had knocked on it.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"When the toddler knocked on the door, which side was it on?

The outside.......... ?

Then Suspect 1 left the child as they were both outside, Suspect 2 was inside the house with the door closed, it is a logical suggestion that they could of been unaware of the presence of Suspect 1 and the toddler outside until opening the door after the toddler had knocked on it."

Great reasoning Spock!

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Immigrants

What ?"

Think he means they always get the blame.

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"When the toddler knocked on the door, which side was it on?

The outside.......... ?

Then Suspect 1 left the child as they were both outside, Suspect 2 was inside the house with the door closed, it is a logical suggestion that they could of been unaware of the presence of Suspect 1 and the toddler outside until opening the door after the toddler had knocked on it.

Great reasoning Spock!"

Has The High Council come to a verdict?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's the verdict?

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"Immigrants

What ?

Think he means they always get the blame."

Obviously brexit is the answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am going with suspect 3,

Suspect 1 was responsible for the toddler.

Suspect 2 was surprised there was a baby on the step.

So obviously suspect 1 got the toddler to knock on the door to alert suspect 2 to the presence of the baby on the step.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex

Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty."

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario."

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep."

Okay I won't but what about the parents that take their kids to leisure centres with soft play and drink coffee out of sight.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep.

Okay I won't but what about the parents that take their kids to leisure centres with soft play and drink coffee out of sight. "

Splutter, rage, old lady rant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Suspect 1.

Suspect 2 had never taken over looking after the toddler."

This.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was suspect 1 a man or a woman?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody left the baby, because there was no mention of a baby.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

The boogie

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep.

Okay I won't but what about the parents that take their kids to leisure centres with soft play and drink coffee out of sight. "

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep.

Okay I won't but what about the parents that take their kids to leisure centres with soft play and drink coffee out of sight.

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective."

No you're not being over protective keeping an eye on a 3 year old or a 6 year old. We would be the same.

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By *atsun xxxMan
over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

Omg granny you are confused today

No mention off step until they go into the house. You said outside gate

So must be 1 lol

Was you inside doing your knitting

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep.

Okay I won't but what about the parents that take their kids to leisure centres with soft play and drink coffee out of sight.

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective.

No you're not being over protective keeping an eye on a 3 year old or a 6 year old. We would be the same."

That's a relief

It just concerns me seeing kids so young playing out with no sign of any parents.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective.

No you're not being over protective keeping an eye on a 3 year old or a 6 year old. We would be the same.

That's a relief

It just concerns me seeing kids so young playing out with no sign of any parents."

The truth is that bad things don't happen very often and if you let a 3 year old and a 6 year old out alone the probability that they'll return home safe and sound is high. I for one am not prepared to take even the slightest risk with something as precious as small children though.

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective.

No you're not being over protective keeping an eye on a 3 year old or a 6 year old. We would be the same.

That's a relief

It just concerns me seeing kids so young playing out with no sign of any parents.

The truth is that bad things don't happen very often and if you let a 3 year old and a 6 year old out alone the probability that they'll return home safe and sound is high. I for one am not prepared to take even the slightest risk with something as precious as small children though.

"

They are precious

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

East Sussex


"

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective.

No you're not being over protective keeping an eye on a 3 year old or a 6 year old. We would be the same.

That's a relief

It just concerns me seeing kids so young playing out with no sign of any parents.

The truth is that bad things don't happen very often and if you let a 3 year old and a 6 year old out alone the probability that they'll return home safe and sound is high. I for one am not prepared to take even the slightest risk with something as precious as small children though.

They are precious "

They're precious no matter what age they are .

Our son is asthmatic and was having a very serious attack when he was about 4. The doctor said to me "they're too precious to take chances. Take him straight to hospital" that hit home.

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective.

No you're not being over protective keeping an eye on a 3 year old or a 6 year old. We would be the same.

That's a relief

It just concerns me seeing kids so young playing out with no sign of any parents.

The truth is that bad things don't happen very often and if you let a 3 year old and a 6 year old out alone the probability that they'll return home safe and sound is high. I for one am not prepared to take even the slightest risk with something as precious as small children though.

They are precious

They're precious no matter what age they are .

Our son is asthmatic and was having a very serious attack when he was about 4. The doctor said to me "they're too precious to take chances. Take him straight to hospital" that hit home. "

It would me too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We suspect that suspect 1 suspected suspect 2 was suspected to look after the toddler. Suspect 2 didn't suspect a toddler to be at the door. When suspect 2 answered the door then he suspected suspect 1 to look after the toddler.

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"We suspect that suspect 1 suspected suspect 2 was suspected to look after the toddler. Suspect 2 didn't suspect a toddler to be at the door. When suspect 2 answered the door then he suspected suspect 1 to look after the toddler."

Denied, your case is based entirely on supposition with no evidence to support it.

I suspect you know this.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

Suspect 1 left baby on step while putting toddler in buggy.

I demand a judicial caning for suspect 1.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Suspect 1 left baby on step while putting toddler in buggy.

I demand a judicial caning for suspect 1."

What about if suspect 1 was at that moment somewhat harried and stressed out, trying to do lots of things at once with no help from suspect 2, leading to the baby being left on the step/in the buggy? Should we also be administering a judicial caning to suspect 2 for not helping out more?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep.

Okay I won't but what about the parents that take their kids to leisure centres with soft play and drink coffee out of sight.

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective."

You sound like a good Dad!!

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By *aul1973HullMan
over a year ago

East Hull


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario.

Person 1. If you're looking after someone who can't look after themselves don't stop doing that until you know for sure someone else has taken over the job. Don't get me started on the parents/carers who set their kids free on the beach then erect a windbreak and go to sleep.

Okay I won't but what about the parents that take their kids to leisure centres with soft play and drink coffee out of sight.

And the parents sat watching tv while their very small children are out playing half way up the road out of sight. I know this cos when my 3&6yr old are playing out I'm sat out watching them, they know which lampposts they're allowed to play between and to stay off the road. Sometimes I think I'm being overprotective.

You sound like a good Dad!! "

Thank you, that means a lot

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london


"Did someone say judge? Oo I like a bit of judgement. I say guilty.

So who ? 1, 2, both and this imaginary 3rd ?

P.S. Toddler / Baby ...... same ting in this scenario."

I just seen baby/toddler same thing ffs. So what is the fkin answer?

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"Omg granny you are confused today

No mention off step until they go into the house. You said outside gate

So must be 1 lol

Was you inside doing your knitting "

Too right I was. I stopped doing shreddies to get you some decent socks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Round em all up, put em in a field, and bomb the bastards...

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By *eliz NelsonMan
over a year ago

The Tantric Tea Shop

Suspect 2 was the last person to have visual contact with toddler before the contention arose..

The jury needs to know the relationship between suspect 1&2 and the toddler...

Off to pace the lounge and contemplate, whilst dragging knuckles on carpet

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