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"It's recently dawned on me - probably because I've paid attention to it- that lots of people seem to follow that pattern of - get engaged - marriage - children - tread water until death - get divorced and 'live' again * slightly tongue in cheek That's fine if it's what you really want but my point is they seem to follow a pre determined path rather than break the mould. It's also accompanied by a standard resignation statement like "Yeah, i was going to move to Australia and then, well you know, i got married" ??? You have the final say over your own life but lots seem not to choose it. P.s. An older guy I know is very much of the above school. He's very conservative/ old fashioned and has never left the UK. As I was waiting for a taxi to the airport and onto San Francisco he asked if I was 'courting' yet. It was a clash of cultures- he was concerned that I was still single I was excited as a kid at Christmas... I'm writing this as it's happening to most of my friends before my eyes and I know some are very unhappy but just continue down the path." So your basically saying that if you met someone who you would want to spend the rest of your life with you would run away because you're scared of commitment. | |||
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"It's recently dawned on me - probably because I've paid attention to it- that lots of people seem to follow that pattern of - get engaged - marriage - children - tread water until death - get divorced and 'live' again * slightly tongue in cheek That's fine if it's what you really want but my point is they seem to follow a pre determined path rather than break the mould. It's also accompanied by a standard resignation statement like "Yeah, i was going to move to Australia and then, well you know, i got married" ??? You have the final say over your own life but lots seem not to choose it. P.s. An older guy I know is very much of the above school. He's very conservative/ old fashioned and has never left the UK. As I was waiting for a taxi to the airport and onto San Francisco he asked if I was 'courting' yet. It was a clash of cultures- he was concerned that I was still single I was excited as a kid at Christmas... I'm writing this as it's happening to most of my friends before my eyes and I know some are very unhappy but just continue down the path." if you are lucky enough to meet someone you genuinly want to spend the rest of the ride that is life with then naturally compromises need to be made so both are happy.there is olso the fear of being old and alone and have nobody to to look back at it all with and reminisce about the good and the bad. | |||
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"A lot of people don't question the 'done' thing because somebody does it so do they. I detest conforming to what is the expected way of life. For many people getting married and having children is the way it should be, for us it's not and I feel lucky and happy that both myself and my partner feel the same way. " This is an option albeit the minority. My advice to my kids was do lots of fun, crazy shit before you get married/settle down to have a family. Alternatively, when the kids are grown and gone, do lots of fun, crazy shit until you die. If you get it right you'll do both.. | |||
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"A lot of people don't question the 'done' thing because somebody does it so do they. I detest conforming to what is the expected way of life. For many people getting married and having children is the way it should be, for us it's not and I feel lucky and happy that both myself and my partner feel the same way. This is an option albeit the minority. My advice to my kids was do lots of fun, crazy shit before you get married/settle down to have a family. Alternatively, when the kids are grown and gone, do lots of fun, crazy shit until you die. If you get it right you'll do both.. " Couldn't agree more with you | |||
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"People don't settle so much as get tied down. You meet a person, you get engaged, you get married, you decide to go away for a month to Peru. Shit, now you've got two jobs you need to organise time off with, good luck getting them to mesh. One of you have a dog? That needs housing. Balls, children. Who will look after them while you're away? Take them with you? Best let the school know they're missing a month. And so on. Eventually the hassle of organising anything out of the norm becomes so daunting that you just don't bother. It can be done though. When VB and I both feel passionate about going somewhere and doing something then we shift mountains and move oceans to make it happen." kind of this for me. also companionship can be enough for some people so that they don't need anything more than that. having someone to share the monotony with, but have your own little jokes and special things, can make life a lot more bearable. some people also like the simple life, this is me too. i'm not materialistic, don't like most humans coz they're shallow and boring to me (despite them having a fufiling life, i just find that uninteresting). and so partnering up with someone similar is fine. | |||
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" P.s. An older guy I know is very much of the above school. He's very conservative/ old fashioned and has never left the UK. As I was waiting for a taxi to the airport and onto San Francisco he asked if I was 'courting' yet. It was a clash of cultures- he was concerned that I was still single I was excited as a kid at Christmas... I'm writing this as it's happening to most of my friends before my eyes and I know some are very unhappy but just continue down the path." That's not a clash of cultures, its a differing of opinions on the best way to live your life to achieve happiness. He believes its by finding a relationship with a compatible partner you believe its by travel. I think both of you have missed the possibility of having a partner and travelling. If your friends are unhappy because of the circumstances they're in I don't think trips abroad will always be the answer. It's always been acceptable to see the traditional partner and kids as a burden rather than a pleasure but I think some people are burdened by their narrow thinking rather than their life circumstances. | |||
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"and if you're trying to make a case for swinging vs monogamy haha nope. i can think of loads of monotonous stuff that is more fun than fucking people." Haha, me too | |||
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"Been happily married twice, first one we had kids, they are great glad they exist. Second and current marriage is great too though life means we live in different countries and only meet every couple of months. Travelled most of the world often to the nice parts, sometimes not. Think the OP has a screwed up view of life as much or more than anyone who feels marriage is an obligation. " Thanks for the thought provoking replies- as to this post I certainly don't have a screwed up view of happiness just I question everything and it seems some accept the inevitability of what's expected as social norms as opposed to embracing their own path. Hopefully it'll stimulate some more good posts | |||
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