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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

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Ridiculous. I posted on tbe gender clothing thread saying i thought it opened up the possibility of bullying. I stand by that but for a parent to do this is daft.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there biggest concern is what their child's class mates wear to school then they must have a pretty easy life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?"

I just watched the parents defend themselves on Victoria Derbyshire .....

They made my flesh crawl..... what a horrible couple....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What are they worried about?

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

I just watched the parents defend themselves on Victoria Derbyshire .....

They made my flesh crawl..... what a horrible couple.... "

What was their argument just out of curiosity?

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

I just watched the parents defend themselves on Victoria Derbyshire .....

They made my flesh crawl..... what a horrible couple....

What was their argument just out of curiosity?"

It was less of argument and more of a cluster of blind self contradiction ....

They didn't offer one valid point .....

Their opinions were un-substantive and lacked any sentient expression

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

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All those girls in trousers, terrible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?"
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I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended"."

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe all should have shorts that way everyone fits in and no one stands out ......... when you stand out at school your picked on and I know that .

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths"
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I took it to the max as an example

Like I said where I disagree is this modern notion of suing for being offended, who gives a fuck, move on with how you wish to proceed in your life as you see fit.

I'm guessing their religious types who want to fit with conformity?

That's their choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All those girls in trousers, terrible."

Our upper years had a fight for us to be allowed to wear trousers.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Personally I congratulate the school for allowing the child to dress how he wants within their uniform guidelines and hope they don't pander to the parents that are complaining.

In this day and age surely it's better guidance for young kids to show them that it's ok to dress however they are comfortable and teach them tolerance and open mindedness rather than conform to societal "norms".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

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It seems to be an extreme overreaction on behalf of the parents wanting to sue. They have every right to decide which school their child attends but to do it on these grounds, and to blame the school itself, is unacceptable.

Hats off to the brave parents and child who wish to allow freedom of being. What an excellent opportunity to educate their classmates on such issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All those girls in trousers, terrible.

Our upper years had a fight for us to be allowed to wear trousers. "
Trousers or short boys and girls and its sorted .

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths.

I took it to the max as an example

Like I said where I disagree is this modern notion of suing for being offended, who gives a fuck, move on with how you wish to proceed in your life as you see fit.

I'm guessing their religious types who want to fit with conformity?

That's their choice"

I think if the parents can't give a valid explanation as to how another child wearing a dress compromises their child, then they should be sued for taking their child out of school

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths.

I took it to the max as an example

Like I said where I disagree is this modern notion of suing for being offended, who gives a fuck, move on with how you wish to proceed in your life as you see fit.

I'm guessing their religious types who want to fit with conformity?

That's their choice

I think if the parents can't give a valid explanation as to how another child wearing a dress compromises their child, then they should be sued for taking their child out of school "
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Giving a valid reason for doing shit is not freedom, and last time I looked at live in a free country which is good because otherwise this child and parents would be stuck with conformity which they don't like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair, it is a Christian school - a Church of England school to be exact. And their statement was that their 6year old and older sibling were confused and distressed respectively as to how boys could suddenly become girls. Which is understandable if they have been raised according to biblical teachings...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Schools have a dress code and usually quite strict. Remember girls being sent home for skirts being an inch too short, or hair colour being inappropriate.

When I was at school you got sent home If you had your hair cut too close to your scalp (boys).

Personally I think the world's gone mad and is too soft these days. A uniform is as it states. People can't chop and choose just because it's trendy to do so.

Pulling your kid out of school for this is ridiculous, but then again so is sending a boy to school in a dress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

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Hats off to the brave parents and child who wish to allow freedom of being. What an excellent opportunity to educate their classmates on such issues."

So if he wanted to dress as an elephant, or a stormtrooper, or wear nothing but a nappy that would be ok too?

The world's gone mad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they are chatting with phil and holly now - they cant say the correct words but saying 'people like that' - phil has just told them they have the problem ---

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

Hats off to the brave parents and child who wish to allow freedom of being. What an excellent opportunity to educate their classmates on such issues.

So if he wanted to dress as an elephant, or a stormtrooper, or wear nothing but a nappy that would be ok too?

The world's gone mad."

If dressing as an elephant etc falls within the schools uniform guidelines then yes it would be ok - however it probably wouldn't so it's a moot point.

The Church Of England school have already confirmed no rules have been broken under the Equality Act or their uniform guidelines so the child has every right to dress within those guidelines!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths.

I took it to the max as an example

Like I said where I disagree is this modern notion of suing for being offended, who gives a fuck, move on with how you wish to proceed in your life as you see fit.

I'm guessing their religious types who want to fit with conformity?

That's their choice

I think if the parents can't give a valid explanation as to how another child wearing a dress compromises their child, then they should be sued for taking their child out of school .

Just because they are offended, it doesn't mean they are right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i actually think they are going to draw unwanted attention to their own child in a negative way from doing this -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i actually think they are going to draw unwanted attention to their own child in a negative way from doing this - "

the offended one not the boy in a dress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So in the name of religion its ok for a Vicar to wear a cassock.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i actually think they are going to draw unwanted attention to their own child in a negative way from doing this - "

Exactly, and they're passing their own bigotted views onto their child.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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They arent suing the school they have said. Sensationalist journalism apparently. They have brought the matter up with the schoolboard. Does make you wonder how this has become news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair, it is a Christian school - a Church of England school to be exact. And their statement was that their 6year old and older sibling were confused and distressed respectively as to how boys could suddenly become girls. Which is understandable if they have been raised according to biblical teachings... "
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That doesn't surprise me CoE is the most wishy washy liberal bunch of atheists going, even their leader is an atheist!.

There's fuck all chance of getting a Catholic, Muslim or Jewish school going this way

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

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"All those girls in trousers, terrible.

Our upper years had a fight for us to be allowed to wear trousers. "

Good, just as it should be. Let's start the fight for those that want to wear skirts or dresses but are told they are not allowed to.

I was a child of the 70's our hemlines were measured and the school nurse used to look in our underwear, I've still no idea why.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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"So in the name of religion its ok for a Vicar to wear a cassock.....

Or a scotsman to wear a kilt. Both completely unrelated and you know it.

If a lad wants to wear a skirt then thats fine on merit alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths.

I took it to the max as an example

Like I said where I disagree is this modern notion of suing for being offended, who gives a fuck, move on with how you wish to proceed in your life as you see fit.

I'm guessing their religious types who want to fit with conformity?

That's their choice

I think if the parents can't give a valid explanation as to how another child wearing a dress compromises their child, then they should be sued for taking their child out of school .

Just because they are offended, it doesn't mean they are right "
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Right and wrong is subjective to your view point.

There's no realms of data saying allowing your six year old to swap genders every week will work out better than saying to them no you can't

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By *DontExistWoman
over a year ago

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"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

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some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway."

wonder if this is one of those times you can be fined as a parent for keeping kids out of school - just a thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So in the name of religion its ok for a Vicar to wear a cassock.....

Or a scotsman to wear a kilt. Both completely unrelated and you know it.

If a lad wants to wear a skirt then thats fine on merit alone."

Totally agree

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

The couple have just been on this morning and it got quite heated i think they are drawing attention to themselves by withdrawing there boys from school why dont they just change schools if they feel this way and what if there sons are freinds with those that choose to dress differant are they going to stop them playing

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By *DontExistWoman
over a year ago

•+• Silicon valley. •+•

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

wonder if this is one of those times you can be fined as a parent for keeping kids out of school - just a thought"

possibly. i'm not sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?.

I think they have the right to do it and wish them luck.

I don't totally agree with them but I can see there point of view.

If parents at my primary school sent their child in dressed as Adolf Hitler because their 6 year old identified as him I'd want the right to withdraw my child from the school.

Where I disagree is nobody should be suing the school for "being offended".

I get where you're coming from, but why should a child's education be compromised because I parent is effected.

And dressing up as the opposite gender is a little different to dressing up as the man who caused 10's of millions of deaths.

I took it to the max as an example

Like I said where I disagree is this modern notion of suing for being offended, who gives a fuck, move on with how you wish to proceed in your life as you see fit.

I'm guessing their religious types who want to fit with conformity?

That's their choice

I think if the parents can't give a valid explanation as to how another child wearing a dress compromises their child, then they should be sued for taking their child out of school .

Just because they are offended, it doesn't mean they are right .

Right and wrong is subjective to your view point.

There's no realms of data saying allowing your six year old to swap genders every week will work out better than saying to them no you can't"

It's not the fact that a boy wore a dress that bothers me, or the fact that some parents were offended, it's the fact they took their own son out of school. I think education is too important, but that's just me

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

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I just watched the parents defend themselves on Victoria Derbyshire .....

They made my flesh crawl..... what a horrible couple....

What was their argument just out of curiosity?

It was less of argument and more of a cluster of blind self contradiction ....

They didn't offer one valid point .....

Their opinions were un-substantive and lacked any sentient expression "

the only point they made was to confirm their complete lack of an open mind..

the irony of intolerance based on religion text is clearly lost on them..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i actually think they are going to draw unwanted attention to their own child in a negative way from doing this -

Exactly, and they're passing their own bigotted views onto their child. "

Of course they are. Children that young are completely open minded. The only reason they can possibly be offended or confused is because of learned reactions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am in two minds about this really. I think the parents of the child taken out of school are over reacting and a little pathetic, but ridiculous over reaction and being offended seems to be the thing a little too often these days, you're offended, get over yourself!

But, I am all for freedom of expression, as you can possibly tell, I don't understand why people care about how I or others look/dress etc, what I wear has no baring on who I am or how I behave towards them so it should be the same the other way around. The thing is, school is to teach children, not only maths, english, science, but that there are rules to follow and they can't always wear or look how they want, most work places have a uniform the same as school and they won't tolerate deviation from that uniform. But if the child that went to school in a dress was wearing the proper uniform then I can't see a massive problem, if that is really what the child wants, apart from with parents that only want their children to understand the sheeple state of mind. I do however have a problem with children, boys and girls, going to school caked in makeup, dying their hair and getting piercings other than their ears, once they are an adult and responsible for themselves then they can do that....I find they have often grown out of wanting most of the things they want while at school, by that time anyway. Unfortunately fashion dictates far too often.

I think if we all took a bit less notice of what other people were doing then this kind of thing would not be news and perpetuating the same behaviour, but I could be wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They ate bullies. Pure and

simple. Their actions have one aim and one aim alone which is to force the school to stop the kid going to school in a dress. Vile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair, nowhere in the Bible does it say, "And Jesus did appear unto his flock in a snazzy pair of Levi 501s."

Fuck these freaks. Let them sue, lose and have to pay costs.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

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"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

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some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

Seconded

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never saw a serious depiction of Jesus wearing trousers and I'm sure he was a boy, wearing a dress doesn't make a boy into a girl, it doesn't even mean they want to be one or identify as one, it just means they like dresses!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To consider this an issue of freedom of choice or expression or a matter of a particular school's dress code are complete red herrings and a massive over simplification.

To my mind this is an issue of gender identity, something much more serious and worthy of tolerance and understanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To consider this an issue of freedom of choice or expression or a matter of a particular school's dress code are complete red herrings and a massive over simplification.

To my mind this is an issue of gender identity, something much more serious and worthy of tolerance and understanding."

But not everyone that wishes to wear clothes that don't conform to their gender has an issue with their gender identity either...and tolerance is not the same as understanding. I tolerate my exhusband even tho he is an arsehole, but, I do not understand why he thinks it is ok to be one, and his actions affect people I care about. How about we teach our kids that these things, when other people do them, have no baring on us so shouldn't matter nor upset or offend us? A boy wearing trousers to school means feck all to the children he is at school with, neither should him wearing a dress, the more this crap is "tolerated" instead of ignored the more things will stay the same and people will carry on being "offended" by things that have nothing to do with them. Unfortunately too many make other peoples business their own, making themselves just as unhappy as the people they persecute.

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

Seconded

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Not so fast you liberals...I can't find any data to support your conclusion that strict religious schools which would practise this produce shitty educated pupils, in fact it's the opposite and they far outperform the others.... And I hate saying that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

Seconded

Don't fecking call me a liberal

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By *DontExistWoman
over a year ago

•+• Silicon valley. •+•

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

Seconded

the fact that they'd deny their child an education because another pupil is permitted to wear a dress when he wants to is what is the obvious cause of the shittiness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You mean not surprising.

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By (user no longer on site)
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"To consider this an issue of freedom of choice or expression or a matter of a particular school's dress code are complete red herrings and a massive over simplification.

To my mind this is an issue of gender identity, something much more serious and worthy of tolerance and understanding.

Issues with gender identity are not about choice. I cannot believe that an average schoolboy would choose to wear a dress to school unless there is an underlying confusion over their gender.

My grandson recently turned 7 and i know for a fact he would have been upset if we'd given him birthdat presents wrapped in pink paper. At this age gender identity is already well formed and if a child is in any way confused this should certainly not be ignored.

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over a year ago

"To consider this an issue of freedom of choice or expression or a matter of a particular school's dress code are complete red herrings and a massive over simplification.

To my mind this is an issue of gender identity, something much more serious and worthy of tolerance and understanding.

Issues with gender identity are not about choice. I cannot believe that an average schoolboy would choose to wear a dress to school unless there is an underlying confusion over their gender.

I know two post-op transgender men who now live their lives as women. Neither have said to me that they chose this. If anything they have followed this path because they don't feel that they have had a choice if they wanted to live happy, fulfilling lives. Gender realignment is a massive, life changing ordeal.

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By *atietvsheffTV/TS
over a year ago

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By *atietvsheffTV/TS
over a year ago

Sheffield

Trousers or short boys and girls and its sorted .

Trousers or shorts or dress or skirts not and girls and it's sorted, it's also their lives and their choice. Let them decide what gender image they want to project.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Political correctness gone mad, let's complain about girls wearing trousers as well lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Political correctness gone mad, let's complain about girls wearing trousers as well lol"

In all honesty I think the parents of the child who support their childs clothes choices are bloody wonderful and I think the child should be celebrated

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over a year ago

"To consider this an issue of freedom of choice or expression or a matter of a particular school's dress code are complete red herrings and a massive over simplification.

To my mind this is an issue of gender identity, something much more serious and worthy of tolerance and understanding.

Issues with gender identity are not about choice. I cannot believe that an average schoolboy would choose to wear a dress to school unless there is an underlying confusion over their gender.

I know people don't chose to have gender issues etc...my points are more to do with the other people making a song and dance about things that should not affect them in the slightest, rather than the little boy and what is important to him and his life, lets hope that his amazing parents let him know that other peoples opinions should have no baring on his life and what he is about, as they are nothing important to do with them, nor them him. But people with choices should still look at things the same, my important peoples opinions are the only ones that matter and if someone loves you enough to matter then they usually are just happy when you are happy.

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

Seconded

the fact that they'd deny their child an education because another pupil is permitted to wear a dress when he wants to is what is the obvious cause of the shittiness."
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I'm playing the attorney

I've just read this story, it seems they also brought there first child out from school two year's ago because of this same matter!!.

Hmmmm five will get you ten that the other child was the same parents of this child, in fact this whole story sounds like two sets of parents (one set of woolly liberal sandal wearer's against one set of conservative CofE can't be arsed swapping to a decent right wing church) having a tit for tat via there children.

Anyhoo I denied my children lots of things from a skin head hair cut to ear rings to make up that was right up to the age of 16.

I remember my 12 year old son telling me he wanted to be a lumberjack... No chance

... Sure they don't speak to me now but in the years to come they'll thank me for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting it's more people pick up on boys wearing dresses and getting given pink stuff. Nobody bats an eyelid at girls wearing boy type clothes and being given blue stuff. If the school has said the boy can wear a dress then that should be respected. If the other parents have a, problem with it that's their hard luck. It is the year 2017 after all. X

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By *DontExistWoman
over a year ago

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"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

some people are a fucking mess.

they really would deny their own child an education because of clothing of another pupil? hahaha, sad.

might as well take him outta school actually coz his parents will have already set him up for a shitty life anyway.

Seconded

the fact that they'd deny their child an education because another pupil is permitted to wear a dress when he wants to is what is the obvious cause of the shittiness..

I'm playing the attorney

I've just read this story, it seems they also brought there first child out from school two year's ago because of this same matter!!.

Anyhoo I denied my children lots of things from a skin head hair cut to ear rings to make up that was right up to the age of 16.

I remember my 12 year old son telling me he wanted to be a lumberjack... No chance

... Sure they don't speak to me now but in the years to come they'll thank me for it

you know what would've made this story more interesting is if the scared kid had special needs and that's why he couldn't cope with the boy wearing a dress thing.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

"Personally I congratulate the school for allowing the child to dress how he wants within their uniform guidelines and hope they don't pander to the parents that are complaining.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think.. They should fine the parents for taking the kid out of school.

If it's a primary school they may have a more relaxed uniform policy.

In high school many state boys to wear trousers and girls to wear trousers or skirts. In which case the boy in the dress is in breach of the uniform policy and should be told to wear trousers. Then the school should discuss whether boys can wear skirts/ dresses.

They may decide not to allow it- many schools are uptight about hair length, make up, earrings, shoe types etc. In which case the boy should wear the assigned uniform to school and stick to dresses at home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To consider this an issue of freedom of choice or expression or a matter of a particular school's dress code are complete red herrings and a massive over simplification.

To my mind this is an issue of gender identity, something much more serious and worthy of tolerance and understanding.

Issues with gender identity are not about choice. I cannot believe that an average schoolboy would choose to wear a dress to school unless there is an underlying confusion over their gender.

I couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think.. They should fine the parents for taking the kid out of school.

If it's a primary school they may have a more relaxed uniform policy.

Got point on the fine..as when you take kids on termtime holiday they are quick to issue fines

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the parents would still be assholes without religion, they can try and dress it up as its against their religious beliefs as much as they like but it's clear they are just narrow minded twats.

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over a year ago

I don't think children should be getting hung up on their sexuality. We all develop and evolve throughout our lives, most of all during childhood.

The idea that boys wear trousers and girls wear skirts to school just seems absurd nowadays. What purpose does a skirt serve?

Just have one uniform that suits everyone and be done with it.

I saw a bit of the parents interview about this and they came across as a pair of nasty shitbags.

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By *ohnaronMan
over a year ago

london

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

I just watched the parents defend themselves on Victoria Derbyshire .....

They made my flesh crawl..... what a horrible couple.... "

I asume you mean the parents of the kid forced to crossdress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?

I just watched the parents defend themselves on Victoria Derbyshire .....

They made my flesh crawl..... what a horrible couple....

I asume you mean the parents of the kid forced to crossdress."

How do you know he was forced?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah like six year olds even no what they want for dinner, I like the yolk this week, now I like the white, now I hate cheese, now I love cheese.

I might be an old stick in the mud but if my six year old told me he was gender confused I'd tell him to get back out on that playing field and cut some fucking trees down.... While singing I'm a lumberjack and I'm alright

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

It should have been ignored and the parents who caused a fuss are, sadly, still small minded

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over a year ago

"Yeah like six year olds even no what they want for dinner, I like the yolk this week, now I like the white, now I hate cheese, now I love cheese.

Fair point. Wearing dresses at 6 is fine but getting them gender reassignment is wrong. Sure some people may grow up and still feel the same but some don't. It's easy to take a dress off.......

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over a year ago

"Parents have taken their boy out of school and are planning to sue the school, for allowing a fellow boy pupil to attend...wearing a dress.

Your thoughts on this?"

It sounds like a plot from a book.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I listened to the parents being interviewed on the radio yesterday mprning.

I felt the interviewer started with the assumption that they were in the wrong. Whatever her private feelings I thought she should have maintained a neutral stance to get the best from the interview. Instead she came across as accusatory and judgemental.

I don't agree with the parents who've withdrawn their children from school, I thing their reasons don't stand up to scrutiny but neither do I agree with the judgemental way they're being treated by a lot of the media. If we're asking for tolerance and acceptance we need to show it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I listened to the parents being interviewed on the radio yesterday mprning.

It goes both ways.

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over a year ago

"I listened to the parents being interviewed on the radio yesterday mprning.

The part I saw was them being asked their views and mentioning things like 'safeguarding' and 'protection' but failing to expand on what they actually meant.

I think it was fair to challenge them for the shitty views they're imposing on their own child. I don't think we need to be too tolerant of that.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"I listened to the parents being interviewed on the radio yesterday mprning.

The part I saw was them being asked their views and mentioning things like 'safeguarding' and 'protection' but failing to expand on what they actually meant.

I think it was fair to challenge them for the shitty views they're imposing on their own child. I don't think we need to be too tolerant of that.

I believe the media's job is to interview without bias. I know it very rarely happens but I don't want an interviewer on the radio approaching a the subject from their own point of view I want to listen and form my own opinion. I wouldn't expect a newsreader to report on the subject in anything but a neutral tone or to pass comment on it either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it interesting that these parents were prepared to take their child out of school because he was confused?

Isn't the whole point of school to learn? this is a perfect opportunity to learn about diversity and tolerance.It is also an opportunity to learn about what the bible actually says and surely his parents would relish the chance to discuss passages such as genesis 1:27 and 28 which deal with exactly this subject,it might be handy if the parents read and understood it themselves but that may be asking a bit much.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

My parents are practicing Christians and when they're faced with a tricky situation they say "what would Jesus do?" I think it's fair to assume that he would have accepted all the children in this situation and their parents.

I think the parents who've withdrawn their kids have lost sight of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The media's job is to sell news.

People's responsibility is to think for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well Jesus was happy enough wearing a dress wasn't he?

His advocates still do.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"The media's job is to sell news.

People's responsibility is to think for themselves."

I don't disagree but I think there's a difference between news and opinion.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Well Jesus was happy enough wearing a dress wasn't he?

His advocates still do."

A colleague and I said the same thing today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The media's job is to sell news.

People's responsibility is to think for themselves.

I don't disagree but I think there's a difference between news and opinion."

I think that line was blurred long ago.

I believed the BBC to be independent... until the Government changed and then I noticed who was paying the piper and how the tune changed.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"The media's job is to sell news.

People's responsibility is to think for themselves.

I don't disagree but I think there's a difference between news and opinion.

I think that line was blurred long ago.

I believed the BBC to be independent... until the Government changed and then I noticed who was paying the piper and how the tune changed."

The interviews I listened to were on Radio 4.

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