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"I think it's just a way to reduce messages? " But do you think it's acceptable? | |||
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"I think it's just a way to reduce messages? But do you think it's acceptable? " guess so, doesn't bother me. But there's better ways of going about it | |||
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"It's ok to say vwe only ..BBC only ... Must be taller than 5,11 .. younger than 55 ..., people surely should be able to state their preferences ![]() We know profiles state all of that...but is it acceptable on a race of people...bloody hell not all have big cocks. | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts " When it comes to attraction i can accept that some people can me say more attracted to black men and less attracted to Asian men just as much as people can be more attracted to larger women and less so with thin women. I accept that it's all about aesthetics and how peiple are wired as far as their attraction is concerned. Everyone is different and everyone is allowed to be that way when it comes to sex and attraction in general. If they put It on their profiles they cut down the messages from those they are not attracted to, just like me putting down that I am more attracted to larger women. Preference is preference don't let it bother you is what I say. | |||
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"Yes it is acceptable, Just as it's acceptable for people to have a stated age range,or specify if they are after a male or female." Yes I can get the age thing but not openly stating a race on a profile ![]() | |||
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"Yes it is acceptable, Just as it's acceptable for people to have a stated age range,or specify if they are after a male or female. Yes I can get the age thing but not openly stating a race on a profile ![]() What's the difference? It makes more sense than filtering by age,someone is always going to be white/brown/black no matter how old they are,so job done,mass filter in place | |||
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"Shouldn't everything really be filterable. Age sex race smoker married bareback etc After all we are talking about who we wish to share bodily fluids and intimate parts of ourselves. It isnt about being pc its about sexual attraction" Maybe your right... as it would be better that way if the filters done it and then stopped the wording on profiles Which I think is unacceptable in this day and age. | |||
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"I've known many people to state they don't find black men or Asian men attractive, but through going to clubs many have found there are actually some they do find attractive. They have just gone by those they have seen in the street or whatever and decided they don't find them attractive, but then one comes along that they do and whilst they find white men more attractive they now know there are other ethnicities they find attractive too. Personally, I don't see why people need to have it on their profile it's simple enough to say no thanks. " Indeed. I think it's also a point that a lot of people will not message people who openly state exclusions on the basis of ethnicity. You may not be a racist, but people will suspect you might be. Seems to me best just to ignore any messages from people you don't find attractive. | |||
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"It is called preferences and of course they should be allowed." This. ![]() | |||
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"I think what it is, is that when people state preferences such as height, body size or age, those criteria could apply to anyone, no matter what their ethnic background is. But when you see profiles which dismiss *entire* ethnic groups - in which there will be an infinite variety of different looking people of all shapes, sizes, with different skin colours, physical features and personalities - you find yourself wondering (or at least I do) why, exactly, they've been so particular. Are they really saying that amongst 1000s (on Fab that is) of individuals in a certain group, there couldn't possibly be even one or two people they might find attractive? It kind of smacks to me of the old, clichéd and unacceptable attitude/belief of 'they all look the same' and/or that all (insert racial group of choice here) must possess the same unattractive attributes or attitudes. Racism, in other words. I probably haven't articulated the above very well ... but seeing racial preferences expressed makes me feel a bit uncomfortable and I've simply tried to explain why. We can all decline anyone who contacts us, we're not even obliged to respond to any message we don't want to so surely it's better to do that than cause offence with questionable 'preferences'? " Everyone is entitled to their preferences at the end of the day, no matter what that may be in this day and age. I have mine and don't apologise for it. | |||
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"It's a preference same as height sex age etc so perfectly acceptable, if it's not to some they should remove the rest of filters age etc as well" I have all my filters on because I have to find someone attractive and I can't tell that from a picture. I have an age range to prevent stupid amount of messages, I've met people that are older than my top age limit because I found them attractive. But as I now prevent anyone from messaging I guess it would matter what my age range was set at. I've known people to alter their preferences, or claim their preferences are flexible, but then that never seems to be the case when ethnicity preference is questioned on here, they just get told it's a preference. So why do the majority of people allow for flexibility on all preferences except ethnicity.... | |||
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"I think what it is, is that when people state preferences such as height, body size or age, those criteria could apply to anyone, no matter what their ethnic background is. But when you see profiles which dismiss *entire* ethnic groups - in which there will be an infinite variety of different looking people of all shapes, sizes, with different skin colours, physical features and personalities - you find yourself wondering (or at least I do) why, exactly, they've been so particular. Are they really saying that amongst 1000s (on Fab that is) of individuals in a certain group, there couldn't possibly be even one or two people they might find attractive? It kind of smacks to me of the old, clichéd and unacceptable attitude/belief of 'they all look the same' and/or that all (insert racial group of choice here) must possess the same unattractive attributes or attitudes. Racism, in other words. I probably haven't articulated the above very well ... but seeing racial preferences expressed makes me feel a bit uncomfortable and I've simply tried to explain why. We can all decline anyone who contacts us, we're not even obliged to respond to any message we don't want to so surely it's better to do that than cause offence with questionable 'preferences'? " I agree. But this has been debated for years and those that have those views will simply use the 'preferences' argument to excuse their ignorance and nothing will change. So I've taken the view that I'm happier for people to reveal their nature in order to easily avoid them. | |||
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"I think what it is, is that when people state preferences such as height, body size or age, those criteria could apply to anyone, no matter what their ethnic background is. But when you see profiles which dismiss *entire* ethnic groups - in which there will be an infinite variety of different looking people of all shapes, sizes, with different skin colours, physical features and personalities - you find yourself wondering (or at least I do) why, exactly, they've been so particular. Are they really saying that amongst 1000s (on Fab that is) of individuals in a certain group, there couldn't possibly be even one or two people they might find attractive? It kind of smacks to me of the old, clichéd and unacceptable attitude/belief of 'they all look the same' and/or that all (insert racial group of choice here) must possess the same unattractive attributes or attitudes. Racism, in other words. I probably haven't articulated the above very well ... but seeing racial preferences expressed makes me feel a bit uncomfortable and I've simply tried to explain why. We can all decline anyone who contacts us, we're not even obliged to respond to any message we don't want to so surely it's better to do that than cause offence with questionable 'preferences'? I agree. But this has been debated for years and those that have those views will simply use the 'preferences' argument to excuse their ignorance and nothing will change. So I've taken the view that I'm happier for people to reveal their nature in order to easily avoid them." I think when it comes to sexual attraction, the "preferences" argument is valid. I know someone (ex fabs these days) who once got assaulted, it just so happened that her attacker was black. She knows, rationally, that all black men are not like that, and is not predjudiced, and yet, she no longer fancies black guys. In my eyes, this does not make her a racist. That aside, I couldn't possibly pin down why I fancy the people I fancy, It's probably a combination of things. I know I've never been attracted to anyone from the far east, no idea why...Pretty sure I'm not racist. | |||
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"Yes it is acceptable, Just as it's acceptable for people to have a stated age range,or specify if they are after a male or female. Yes I can get the age thing but not openly stating a race on a profile ![]() why .. it's just a preference.. some ask for black only..some white.. some dont care. | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant)" So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? | |||
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"I wonder if the "I had a bad experience" "reason" would work the same if that experience was from a white man. " Course it would - I know women who don't like to have sex with any men (although they claim to be bisexual) because of a bad experience with one man. | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant?" Yes. | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts " by waiting to mention it I suppose you could say your wasting thier time. | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes." so straight and gay people are ignorant for not being attracted to everyone? | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes." Why? Who you fancy is not rational. I tend not to fancy people who are overweight. Am I a terrible person? | |||
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"I wonder if the "I had a bad experience" "reason" would work the same if that experience was from a white man. Course it would - I know women who don't like to have sex with any men (although they claim to be bisexual) because of a bad experience with one man. " I only ask as that seems to be a lot of women's excuse to why try won't meet blacks or Asians, but never seen someone state they won't meet white men because of a bad experience. Saying they won't meet men because of a bad experience, I'd say is understandable. But saying they won't meet black men because of a bad experience is tarring them all with the same brush, ethnicity wasn't to blame. | |||
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" so straight and gay people are ignorant for not being attracted to everyone? " ![]() | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes. Why? Who you fancy is not rational. I tend not to fancy people who are overweight. Am I a terrible person?" No. But expressing a preference or desire is different from revealing a prejudice. I don't fancy fat people of any ethnicity. I don't understand how anybody can rule out all black people simply on account of their skin colour (because they all look the same?!). To me it reveals something I don't like in people. I'm happy with that ![]() | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes. Why? Who you fancy is not rational. I tend not to fancy people who are overweight. Am I a terrible person? No. But expressing a preference or desire is different from revealing a prejudice. I don't fancy fat people of any ethnicity. I don't understand how anybody can rule out all black people simply on account of their skin colour (because they all look the same?!). To me it reveals something I don't like in people. I'm happy with that ![]() Because they don't fancy them. See: not rational. | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes. Why? Who you fancy is not rational. I tend not to fancy people who are overweight. Am I a terrible person? No. But expressing a preference or desire is different from revealing a prejudice. I don't fancy fat people of any ethnicity. I don't understand how anybody can rule out all black people simply on account of their skin colour (because they all look the same?!). To me it reveals something I don't like in people. I'm happy with that ![]() On the basis of their skin colour. See: Fucking ignorant. | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes. Why? Who you fancy is not rational. I tend not to fancy people who are overweight. Am I a terrible person? No. But expressing a preference or desire is different from revealing a prejudice. I don't fancy fat people of any ethnicity. I don't understand how anybody can rule out all black people simply on account of their skin colour (because they all look the same?!). To me it reveals something I don't like in people. I'm happy with that ![]() Why? Why is it any different to hair coulor or body shape or smile or smell? | |||
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"I think what it is, is that when people state preferences such as height, body size or age, those criteria could apply to anyone, no matter what their ethnic background is. But when you see profiles which dismiss *entire* ethnic groups - in which there will be an infinite variety of different looking people of all shapes, sizes, with different skin colours, physical features and personalities - you find yourself wondering (or at least I do) why, exactly, they've been so particular. Are they really saying that amongst 1000s (on Fab that is) of individuals in a certain group, there couldn't possibly be even one or two people they might find attractive? It kind of smacks to me of the old, clichéd and unacceptable attitude/belief of 'they all look the same' and/or that all (insert racial group of choice here) must possess the same unattractive attributes or attitudes. Racism, in other words. I probably haven't articulated the above very well ... but seeing racial preferences expressed makes me feel a bit uncomfortable and I've simply tried to explain why. We can all decline anyone who contacts us, we're not even obliged to respond to any message we don't want to so surely it's better to do that than cause offence with questionable 'preferences'? " Exactly, site rules state no response, no interest so if it's stated in the profile then it is unacceptable. Also the sentence looking for hot people bugs me... I know it's not in the same league as what the op has said but as well as unacceptable, it's rude. Have your preferences politely. | |||
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"Because they are universal. I don't generally fancy fat, hairy, tall people. That can apply to people anywhere. Ruling out all white people is entirely different. All white people don't look the same, therefore you could only have an issue with their skin colour. Why would that be? To be fair maybe some people really do find a skin colour alone unattractive, but I can't empathise with that because to me it makes no sense." Some don't fancy people of certain hair coulors, how is that any different? | |||
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" Because they don't fancy them. See: not rational. " There is no convincing some people. They are just in need of being offended by people's sexual preferences.. | |||
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"Which is better? a. Someone who is clear and puts on their profile that they will not meet someone of a certain ethnicity? b. A racist who hates all people of a certain ethnicity but keeps quiet about it? It is not acceptable for someone to actively disciminate against anyone else because of their race, I am sure that we all agree on that. However, if someone is only attracted to a certain type of person, how do you express it without causing offence? Saying Whites only is as bad as saying no blacks. However saying BBC only is perfectly acceptable in certain circles. I will meet people I connect with, irrespective of their cultural heritage or ethnicity. How can I say that without sounding pc or desperate? I think it is the circle that cannot be squared until we can accept that we are all equal, we are attracted to whoever we are attracted to. As long as we aren't arseholes to one another, there is room in fab for everyone to get along. " See; of all these the BBC preference strikes me as the most racist. | |||
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"Well as I advised much earlier up - it's been debated to death and it'll make fuck all difference doing it again. If people rule out an entire ethic group, I'm of the opinion they're really fucking ignorant and I'd rather not meet them. If they kindly express that view on their profile, I'm grateful ![]() I rule out about 99% of people because they don't fit what I want sexually .. it's entirely your right to have an opinion. I dont play with black or Asian guys.. or darker white guys to be fair because im like a ghost with how pale I am and have never found the contrast appealing... ironically the very thing a friend of mine finds a turn on with black guys she meets. She finds the guys I like to pale and bland for her. I used to organise a black for white night.. the guys going knew I had no sexual interest in them but we still had a good giggle and they respected me and my preference. Takes all sorts... and I have been doing this long enough to know what I like... we could obviously to into the psychological of what makes people have the preferences they have.. but that would be another thread | |||
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"Which is better? a. Someone who is clear and puts on their profile that they will not meet someone of a certain ethnicity? b. A racist who hates all people of a certain ethnicity but keeps quiet about it? It is not acceptable for someone to actively disciminate against anyone else because of their race, I am sure that we all agree on that. However, if someone is only attracted to a certain type of person, how do you express it without causing offence? Saying Whites only is as bad as saying no blacks. However saying BBC only is perfectly acceptable in certain circles. I will meet people I connect with, irrespective of their cultural heritage or ethnicity. How can I say that without sounding pc or desperate? I think it is the circle that cannot be squared until we can accept that we are all equal, we are attracted to whoever we are attracted to. As long as we aren't arseholes to one another, there is room in fab for everyone to get along. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Personally I think it is unacceptable, you can have those viewpoints, but do not publicise it It does come across as being judgemental. Preferences re age/height, that is a completely different matter" sorry but I can not see what the difference is... if I like what I like it's a preference. Preference and discrimination is a big difference | |||
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"Personally I think it is unacceptable, you can have those viewpoints, but do not publicise it It does come across as being judgemental. Preferences re age/height, that is a completely different matter sorry but I can not see what the difference is... if I like what I like it's a preference. Preference and discrimination is a big difference " If a profile said, sorry! No blacks or Asians and men over 5'11' only please.. It is easy to understand/accept the preference for tall men, but blankly stating no black men or Asians, that is completely different | |||
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"Personally I think it is unacceptable, you can have those viewpoints, but do not publicise it It does come across as being judgemental. Preferences re age/height, that is a completely different matter sorry but I can not see what the difference is... if I like what I like it's a preference. Preference and discrimination is a big difference If a profile said, sorry! No blacks or Asians and men over 5'11' only please.. It is easy to understand/accept the preference for tall men, but blankly stating no black men or Asians, that is completely different" why is it any different to only wanting tall men. Or guys that only want women of a certain age or size ... its a sex site.. we have our attractions or turn offs... and for some that excludes many people.. some very few | |||
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"It's ok to say vwe only ..BBC only ... Must be taller than 5,11 .. younger than 55 ..., people surely should be able to state their preferences ![]() So we can't say we prefer non smokers shaven n clean only aswell.... Come on, this is a swingers site and if you can't talk straight on here where can you?? | |||
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" so straight and gay people are ignorant for not being attracted to everyone? ![]() I've blue eyes | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes. Why? Who you fancy is not rational. I tend not to fancy people who are overweight. Am I a terrible person? No. But expressing a preference or desire is different from revealing a prejudice. I don't fancy fat people of any ethnicity. " wow so ignorant and prejudice... | |||
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"It's ok to say vwe only ..BBC only ... Must be taller than 5,11 .. younger than 55 ..., people surely should be able to state their preferences ![]() Ok! Non smokers-I understand your rationale there, the smell etc Shaven and Clean....obviously hygiene and comfort... Black and Asian-what is the rationale there? I am not expecting an answer, just exploring the issue | |||
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"Really want to meet a tall, sexy black man (= preference) Would love to meet a sexy, Asian woman for ff fun (= preference) Love to play with two sexy young blondes (= preference) No Blacks or Asians (= ignorant) So what about my friend who wasn't not attracted to black guys, but would consider asians (in the dame way she wouldf consider white guys). You think she is ignorant? Yes. Why? Who you fancy is not rational. I tend not to fancy people who are overweight. Am I a terrible person? No. But expressing a preference or desire is different from revealing a prejudice. I don't fancy fat people of any ethnicity. wow so ignorant and prejudice..." Yep - openly fattist ![]() | |||
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"Which is better? a. Someone who is clear and puts on their profile that they will not meet someone of a certain ethnicity? b. A racist who hates all people of a certain ethnicity but keeps quiet about it? It is not acceptable for someone to actively disciminate against anyone else because of their race, I am sure that we all agree on that. However, if someone is only attracted to a certain type of person, how do you express it without causing offence? Saying Whites only is as bad as saying no blacks. However saying BBC only is perfectly acceptable in certain circles. I will meet people I connect with, irrespective of their cultural heritage or ethnicity. How can I say that without sounding pc or desperate? I think it is the circle that cannot be squared until we can accept that we are all equal, we are attracted to whoever we are attracted to. As long as we aren't arseholes to one another, there is room in fab for everyone to get along. ![]() ![]() At the end of the day people always have choices...that is not what my options was about. It was about in this day and age stating them on a race only choice. It is simply not needed...as someone has stated on here simply not replying to a message is a choice which must be better in this day and age to having bigots posting racist views on their profile. This was originally longer..but I'm not taking the chance on my phone crashing again ![]() | |||
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" Yep - openly fattist ![]() Omg really. Perhaps you should look up and educate yourself what racism is... not sure anywhere it says... " doesn't want to get jiggy".. there are im sure plenty of people whose reasons for their preference are racist but simply having a sexual preference doesn't make you one... I saw my friends suffer at the hands of racists at school... got a few digs myself because apparently being their friends made me as bad... But they were my friends. Just because I dont want to have sexual relations or interactions with people that I have no sexual attraction too doesn't make me racist. | |||
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"It is called preferences and of course they should be allowed." This ![]() | |||
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"Shame there isn't a filter for fakes or timewasters?" Yes x | |||
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" Yep - openly fattist ![]() If the single factor that causes you to not find them attractive is their race, then.. um... ![]() | |||
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" Yep - openly fattist ![]() ![]() nope its the fact I like fair complexions and blue or green eyes... rules out plenty of white guys too. | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts " One (pubs etc.) is set up to provide seevices to the general public, the other (fab) is about a private intimate act. One must be provided without discrimination, the other certainly must discriminate. Discrimination has become a bad word, but lets remember it can also mean "to chose between". I discriminated between which I car I wanted to buy, which phone I chose, where I work, where I eat, what I eat etc. I firmly believe that people who get to decide they do and do not have intimate sexual encounters with. | |||
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"Cos this is all about you? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() no it's not me but about everyones right to a choice of their sexual partner. And your choice of words on this reply speaks volumes. And obviously an albino wont have blue or green eyes. So nope. Btw I have been with guys I didn't fancy including black guys. I just decided it wasn't how i wanted to be so now meet less and only those I find attractive. My choice.. My preference as it is your choice to think as you do. | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts One (pubs etc.) is set up to provide seevices to the general public, the other (fab) is about a private intimate act. One must be provided without discrimination, the other certainly must discriminate. Discrimination has become a bad word, but lets remember it can also mean "to chose between". I discriminated between which I car I wanted to buy, which phone I chose, where I work, where I eat, what I eat etc. I firmly believe that people who get to decide they do and do not have intimate sexual encounters with." This is know...but the question was is it acceptable to put it on your profile? There is simply no need for stating it in my opinion. I find it unnecessary and offensive. Do you list what you are mainly looking for...or concentrate on not what your looking for? | |||
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" There is simply no need for stating it in my opinion. I find it unnecessary and offensive. Do you list what you are mainly looking for...or concentrate on not what your looking for?" If we see a profile staying not into large people. We simply pass it by. Not offended. If it says BBC wanted we obviously then pass it by. No offence taken etc If someone states the want bi couples or bi guys. Again we move on.. or anything that isn't what we are. I can't see why its unacceptable to be honest about what your looking for to fulfil sexual fantasies | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts One (pubs etc.) is set up to provide seevices to the general public, the other (fab) is about a private intimate act. One must be provided without discrimination, the other certainly must discriminate. Discrimination has become a bad word, but lets remember it can also mean "to chose between". I discriminated between which I car I wanted to buy, which phone I chose, where I work, where I eat, what I eat etc. I firmly believe that people who get to decide they do and do not have intimate sexual encounters with. This is know...but the question was is it acceptable to put it on your profile? There is simply no need for stating it in my opinion. I find it unnecessary and offensive. Do you list what you are mainly looking for...or concentrate on not what your looking for?" I think positive profiles are better than negative profiles. Some people have a big long list of negatives which can be a turn off. But I'm going to be honest and say that I look at pics before reading a profile. However, if people say that they are not looking to meet XYZ, then I don't really have an issue with it. | |||
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"We can all create our realities if we want to. You can choose to focus on all the shit you don't want to see which is what those people with negative profiles are doing = why the fk would you describe what you don't want to see as a permanent visual feature attached to your profile for all to see anyways?... Out of sight, out of mind and all that?! Or you can focus on magnetising and high listing what you actually do want to experience out of life by the law of attraction." Your doing it again. Your talking sense! | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles " There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() | |||
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"Sorry MD but this topic has been raised many times before. " Well it's the first time I've seen it...and have asked see any other ones to compare ![]() | |||
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"Sorry MD but this topic has been raised many times before. " So has every other single thread in the forums, to be fair. | |||
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"I'll never get why people feel the need to state their racial preferences on a pubic profile. It says to me that the person clearly lacks social awareness of the whole issue surrounding race that we see today. " Pubic ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() They don't have to be....fab could easily set it in their rules that the racist profiles are no longer allowed ![]() | |||
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"I'll never get why people feel the need to state their racial preferences on a pubic profile. It says to me that the person clearly lacks social awareness of the whole issue surrounding race that we see today. Pubic ![]() It's late and your looking at me so that Is totally understandable ![]() | |||
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"I think what it is, is that when people state preferences such as height, body size or age, those criteria could apply to anyone, no matter what their ethnic background is. But when you see profiles which dismiss *entire* ethnic groups - in which there will be an infinite variety of different looking people of all shapes, sizes, with different skin colours, physical features and personalities - you find yourself wondering (or at least I do) why, exactly, they've been so particular. Are they really saying that amongst 1000s (on Fab that is) of individuals in a certain group, there couldn't possibly be even one or two people they might find attractive? It kind of smacks to me of the old, clichéd and unacceptable attitude/belief of 'they all look the same' and/or that all (insert racial group of choice here) must possess the same unattractive attributes or attitudes. Racism, in other words. I probably haven't articulated the above very well ... but seeing racial preferences expressed makes me feel a bit uncomfortable and I've simply tried to explain why. We can all decline anyone who contacts us, we're not even obliged to respond to any message we don't want to so surely it's better to do that than cause offence with questionable 'preferences'? I agree. But this has been debated for years and those that have those views will simply use the 'preferences' argument to excuse their ignorance and nothing will change. So I've taken the view that I'm happier for people to reveal their nature in order to easily avoid them. I think when it comes to sexual attraction, the "preferences" argument is valid. I know someone (ex fabs these days) who once got assaulted, it just so happened that her attacker was black. She knows, rationally, that all black men are not like that, and is not predjudiced, and yet, she no longer fancies black guys. In my eyes, this does not make her a racist. That aside, I couldn't possibly pin down why I fancy the people I fancy, It's probably a combination of things. I know I've never been attracted to anyone from the far east, no idea why...Pretty sure I'm not racist. " If a white man had assaulted her do you think she would have then had an aversion to all white men? | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() Its not racist to say 'i dont like asian women' or 'not interested in black men' | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() Must be just me then as it's something I wouldn't dream of putting on my profile. | |||
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"Sorry MD but this topic has been raised many times before. So has every other single thread in the forums, to be fair. " True, but these type of Mexican stand off threads just wear me down ![]() | |||
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"Sorry MD but this topic has been raised many times before. So has every other single thread in the forums, to be fair. True, but these type of Mexican stand off threads just wear me down ![]() Easy don't come in if you think it is repetitive to you ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() Me neither! Why discriminate against a whole group of people!? | |||
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"Sorry MD but this topic has been raised many times before. So has every other single thread in the forums, to be fair. True, but these type of Mexican stand off threads just wear me down ![]() ![]() Ok, I'll leave you all to your circular debate ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() They mightnt fancy black or asian people. Thats NOT racist | |||
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"I would prefer to tell an individual if they were not my type. I'm not against any colour. If I fancy them, I fancy them. I love Zayn Malik, Idris Elba and Jensen Ackles. So perhaps I'm not the best judge of character on what would be dubbed as racist. My knee jerk reaction is sometimes to think that the person may be ignorant or racist. Yet I know people who have friends of a different colour, despite not being physically attracted to said colour. It could genuinely be the laws of attraction. Though no doubt there will be some who have a more racist/prejuice reason behind their 'preference'." Prejuice??? Never written that in my bloody life! Prejudice is what I meant ![]() | |||
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"Sorry MD but this topic has been raised many times before. So has every other single thread in the forums, to be fair. True, but these type of Mexican stand off threads just wear me down ![]() ![]() You would be sat replying to yourself if everyone took that attitude. | |||
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"I would prefer to tell an individual if they were not my type. I'm not against any colour. If I fancy them, I fancy them. I love Zayn Malik, Idris Elba and Jensen Ackles. So perhaps I'm not the best judge of character on what would be dubbed as racist. My knee jerk reaction is sometimes to think that the person may be ignorant or racist. Yet I know people who have friends of a different colour, despite not being physically attracted to said colour. It could genuinely be the laws of attraction. Though no doubt there will be some who have a more racist/prejuice reason behind their 'preference'. " Or it could be just down to them not fancying asian or black women or men. | |||
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"I would prefer to tell an individual if they were not my type. I'm not against any colour. If I fancy them, I fancy them. I love Zayn Malik, Idris Elba and Jensen Ackles. So perhaps I'm not the best judge of character on what would be dubbed as racist. My knee jerk reaction is sometimes to think that the person may be ignorant or racist. Yet I know people who have friends of a different colour, despite not being physically attracted to said colour. It could genuinely be the laws of attraction. Though no doubt there will be some who have a more racist/prejuice reason behind their 'preference'. Or it could be just down to them not fancying asian or black women or men." That's what I just said ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() But outing it on your profile...which is what my options was about....is a very fine line I think ![]() | |||
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"Sorry MD but this topic has been raised many times before. So has every other single thread in the forums, to be fair. True, but these type of Mexican stand off threads just wear me down ![]() ![]() Or not pausing my film ![]() | |||
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"I would prefer to tell an individual if they were not my type. I'm not against any colour. If I fancy them, I fancy them. I love Zayn Malik, Idris Elba and Jensen Ackles. So perhaps I'm not the best judge of character on what would be dubbed as racist. My knee jerk reaction is sometimes to think that the person may be ignorant or racist. Yet I know people who have friends of a different colour, despite not being physically attracted to said colour. It could genuinely be the laws of attraction. Though no doubt there will be some who have a more racist/prejuice reason behind their 'preference'. Or it could be just down to them not fancying asian or black women or men. That's what I just said ![]() Your last sentence was sayin some have a racist view on it. ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() To rule out a whole group of people based on race is classed as discrimination. | |||
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"Theres a mixed race couple on who have 'sorry no white males' i didnt read an think 'how dare they!' Its personal preference. " Well it obviously amounts to the same thing as it's not one sided ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() The perception of what you place on your profile and what others put on theirs is different. We all have our prefences, we all have our views on whom we'd both like to meet, nor meet; it's human nature to effectively segregate in our minds whom we ideally wish to hook up with. Your profile highlights a fe examples of who you DON'T wish to meet; fair enough and that sends out a clear message about whom you wish to meet. Surely others can state their preferences in the way they see fit without the "race" card! | |||
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"I would prefer to tell an individual if they were not my type. I'm not against any colour. If I fancy them, I fancy them. I love Zayn Malik, Idris Elba and Jensen Ackles. So perhaps I'm not the best judge of character on what would be dubbed as racist. My knee jerk reaction is sometimes to think that the person may be ignorant or racist. Yet I know people who have friends of a different colour, despite not being physically attracted to said colour. It could genuinely be the laws of attraction. Though no doubt there will be some who have a more racist/prejuice reason behind their 'preference'. Or it could be just down to them not fancying asian or black women or men. That's what I just said ![]() ![]() Thats my view. I specifically stated in my comment that for some it is attraction based. Then you replied what I'd already covered? It would be very naive of you to think that racism doesn't exist on fab, even if it is a minority. That's my opinion. | |||
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"If having that you don't want to meet black/Asian guys on your profile makes you racist - does having bbc only also make you racist? " There are other channels | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() There ruling it out on attraction. | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() On sexual orientation but nowhere does it mention a race that is excluded. So I'm not bi so I think what I am looking for should be self explanatory. .but being a tv...you do not teed to get believed...hence why I state no men ..but do not feel the need to say black men ![]() | |||
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"If having that you don't want to meet black/Asian guys on your profile makes you racist - does having bbc only also make you racist? There are other channels" ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Are couples who state no bi male or females bein homophobic? | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Let's try to keep it on my op....which was all about race on profiles...nothing else! | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() It doesn't matter. They're still ruling it out. | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() Are couples who state no bi male or females bein homophobic? | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Or by the same equation, do females or couples who state No Males become Sexist? No, it is their preference! | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() EXACTLY ![]() | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() It's still discriminating against a group of people. I personally haven't mentioned the word "racist" and that's because I don't think that generally, people are being racist. I do, however, think they're being discriminatory, naive and a little bit insensitive about race in our society today. | |||
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"If people don't want to meet other races that's their choice I don't see anyone complaining about women that put BBC only on their profiles There's a saying that says two wrongs don't make a right ![]() ![]() ![]() Were talking about fab profiles, there ruling them out on ATTRACTION? Not racist Not bigoted Not no ill feeling just certain people fancy a certain look, a certain hair colour, a certain build? I assure you no1 ever has or will in the history of fab be prosecuted for saying no black asian bi straight people contact me, an thank god they wont, because thats preference not discrimination x | |||
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"Sorry but it would be easier to qoute this. What was the op about? Go and have a look as it was not about gays bis fat..slim..hairy people. They are all coming up but the op was about race being but on profiles to which I think is unacceptable. So can we get back on track with that point please ![]() Would any1 on fab ever be prosecuted for saying no black asian bi straight people contact me? Nope. Why? Preference not discrimination | |||
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"Sorry but it would be easier to qoute this. What was the op about? Go and have a look as it was not about gays bis fat..slim..hairy people. They are all coming up but the op was about race being but on profiles to which I think is unacceptable. So can we get back on track with that point please ![]() My preference is for women only ..but even the implied have preferenceS but I'm not going into what they are here or on my profile as there is absolutely no reason to. All I can say is race is not one of them ![]() | |||
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"I would like to know where the same previous posts. The thing that happens on here is, after a while people tend to forget the original post and read the comments that have spiralled instead. The majority of the comments on this post have all been said before, but the original question, well I haven't seen it. " Its just worded differently. Its definately been discussed before. | |||
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"Which is better? a. Someone who is clear and puts on their profile that they will not meet someone of a certain ethnicity? b. A racist who hates all people of a certain ethnicity but keeps quiet about it? It is not acceptable for someone to actively disciminate against anyone else because of their race, I am sure that we all agree on that. However, if someone is only attracted to a certain type of person, how do you express it without causing offence? Saying Whites only is as bad as saying no blacks. However saying BBC only is perfectly acceptable in certain circles. I will meet people I connect with, irrespective of their cultural heritage or ethnicity. How can I say that without sounding pc or desperate? I think it is the circle that cannot be squared until we can accept that we are all equal, we are attracted to whoever we are attracted to. As long as we aren't arseholes to one another, there is room in fab for everyone to get along. ![]() ![]() ![]() I agree. However I'd rather someone openly ranted about xyz on their profile so I can avoid them. As others have said, there's nice ways to say things and nasty ways. Also we can say nothing at all and just delete the message from an xyz person. I prefer to say nothing on my profile and give a non personal response like "sorry you're too far away". No need for "NO BI BLACK MARRIED TV GINGERS!!!" (This is purely an example for illustration purposes. No-one likes gingers.) | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts " I think it depends on how they state it. NO FUCKING BLACKS WE HATE YOU ALL YOU FUCKERS!!!! is different to "we only meet white people sorry" And the other way would be to say nothing at all on the profile. However is this then a form of time wasting, for the black people that will mail them? Like attracts like. Ranty shouty profiles will attract ranty people - often the types they are ranting about. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Which is better? a. Someone who is clear and puts on their profile that they will not meet someone of a certain ethnicity? b. A racist who hates all people of a certain ethnicity but keeps quiet about it? It is not acceptable for someone to actively disciminate against anyone else because of their race, I am sure that we all agree on that. However, if someone is only attracted to a certain type of person, how do you express it without causing offence? Saying Whites only is as bad as saying no blacks. However saying BBC only is perfectly acceptable in certain circles. I will meet people I connect with, irrespective of their cultural heritage or ethnicity. How can I say that without sounding pc or desperate? I think it is the circle that cannot be squared until we can accept that we are all equal, we are attracted to whoever we are attracted to. As long as we aren't arseholes to one another, there is room in fab for everyone to get along. ![]() ![]() ![]() ACTUALLY I loooove Gingers lol, I've always had a soft spot for them and I've had 5 Ginger lovers and 3 Ginger BF's lol x | |||
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"People absolutely have the right to state who they will or will not fuck. Whether that's fat/slim people, white/black people, tall/short people, younger/older people, hairy/bald people, or indeed whether that is simply men/women. It's not racist to not fancy black people. It's not sexist to not fancy a specific gender. It's not heightist, sizeist, or any other kind of IST. You can have a short fat gay bald black best mate with one leg and a squint that you love like a brother and would die for... doesn't mean you fancy them though! I absolutely defend anybody's right to an opinion, and for their right to clearly state who they will or will not allow to be sexual with them. They absolutely have that right. It's their body, and frankly fuck political correctness! Political correctness has no place in the bedroom. People have the right to their own bodily integrity, and why should they not state this on their profiles? " I love this bit of your reply "People have the right to their own bodily integrity", I totally agree with it... But if we're talking about human rights then basic respect would be a great way of moving things forward between us all, as in say what you mean and state what you want and try to treat that person the way you want to be spoken to about a sometimes touchy subject?!... In an ideal world I think this would resolve a lot of issues?!. | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts " Just spotted it!! Love the "and maybe a few women" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts " Yeah it's fine carry on | |||
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"People absolutely have the right to state who they will or will not fuck. Whether that's fat/slim people, white/black people, tall/short people, younger/older people, hairy/bald people, or indeed whether that is simply men/women. It's not racist to not fancy black people. It's not sexist to not fancy a specific gender. It's not heightist, sizeist, or any other kind of IST. You can have a short fat gay bald black best mate with one leg and a squint that you love like a brother and would die for... doesn't mean you fancy them though! I absolutely defend anybody's right to an opinion, and for their right to clearly state who they will or will not allow to be sexual with them. They absolutely have that right. It's their body, and frankly fuck political correctness! Political correctness has no place in the bedroom. People have the right to their own bodily integrity, and why should they not state this on their profiles? " ![]() | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts Just spotted it!! Love the "and maybe a few women" ![]() ![]() I did say maybe....not too sure if any do ![]() | |||
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"From reading another thread for filters on racial preferences. Well it got me thinking is it right that people can post this on profiles here....it's not that long ago that pubs had signs saying "No blacks No dogs and No irish". Now that is totally unacceptable now so why is it allowed on here? Surely most men,tvs and maybe a few women have had knockbacks saying "your not what we are looking for"...would this not do here and put a stop to bigoted profiles? Your thoughts " Yes it is acceptable to put this and similar preferences on profiles. It's not racist. If it was racist then Fab wouldn't allow it. It's a good way of trying to reducing messeges. It's on my profile because i simply don't find asian guys attractive and that is based on my experience of meeting them in the past. | |||
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"People absolutely have the right to state who they will or will not fuck. Whether that's fat/slim people, white/black people, tall/short people, younger/older people, hairy/bald people, or indeed whether that is simply men/women. It's not racist to not fancy black people. It's not sexist to not fancy a specific gender. It's not heightist, sizeist, or any other kind of IST. You can have a short fat gay bald black best mate with one leg and a squint that you love like a brother and would die for... doesn't mean you fancy them though! I absolutely defend anybody's right to an opinion, and for their right to clearly state who they will or will not allow to be sexual with them. They absolutely have that right. It's their body, and frankly fuck political correctness! Political correctness has no place in the bedroom. People have the right to their own bodily integrity, and why should they not state this on their profiles? I love this bit of your reply "People have the right to their own bodily integrity", I totally agree with it... But if we're talking about human rights then basic respect would be a great way of moving things forward between us all, as in say what you mean and state what you want and try to treat that person the way you want to be spoken to about a sometimes touchy subject?!... In an ideal world I think this would resolve a lot of issues?!." Yes there's no need to be rude about how it's phrased, I agree, but it's definitely ok to politely state on profiles that you will only meet xyz type of people for sex, or that you are not interested in meeting xyz type of people for sex. "Sorry but we're not interested in hooking up with black/Asian people as they're not our preference" is as acceptable as "Sorry but we're not interesting in meeting single guys" Both are clear and not derogatory. | |||
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