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"Yes. I never used to everything went in the black bag but I seperate it now" Good-on you .... it's so simple for us as individuals to do the right thing at our end of the waste management system ..... | |||
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"Having traveled round the world was suprised how much plastic is washed up on beaches " Me too and it's sickening ,,,, | |||
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"I'd like to do more tbh. I'm very interested in the subject and had a fb page dedicated to spotlighting people's efforts. There's plenty of people who've reduced their plastic usage down to 0 and I always find them very inspiring. I use my plastic bags as bin liners and in Brighton the council supposedly recycles, tho I have heard some of the recycled waste goes to landfill occasionally. I make my own synthetic free cosmetics so I have at least stopped buying as many beauty products stored in plastic.... I also pick up waste if it's in front of me as here in Brighton, it'll end up in the sea sooner rather than later... Though I do realise some peeps will see me as being a vile do gooder with a rubbish collecting addiction lol. " Brilliant | |||
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"Yes, I even got a second recycling bin so I could recycle more x " | |||
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"Yes, I even got a second recycling bin so I could recycle more x " Is it made from recycled or fresh plastic? It amuses me a little that the recycling bins are not bio-degradable and also intensively coloured which makes them unlikely to be recycled. | |||
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"I do. We have a few water bottles to try and avoid buying bottles of drink while we're out - I always take them home to recycle but reduce and reuse are better options. I think G gets fed up with how much time I spend checking an item is ok to go in our recycling bins, he'd just throw it out. I've also just got some stainless steel straws so little un, who loves a straw to drink with if we're say out at a cafe, isn't burning through single use plastic ones. We live near the sea too and the rubbish on the strand line is awful. Microbeads in toothpaste and facewashes/ exfoliators are a problem too. Something I need to read more about to be able to avoid. " I love the sound of those stainless steel drinking straws..... brilliant idea ... Yes micro beads should be banned from use full-stop ..... They are totally unnecessary and can easily be replaced with none harmful bio degradable alternatives .... | |||
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"Not really it all goes in the grey bin but do put garden waste in the green bin sorry to say but until are council starts doing more it can't be arsed " Do you not feel that is a bit defeatist Every piece of domestically generated plastic waste which ends up contaminating the marine environment starts with the action or inaction of an individual .... | |||
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"Not really it all goes in the grey bin but do put garden waste in the green bin sorry to say but until are council starts doing more it can't be arsed Do you not feel that is a bit defeatist Every piece of domestically generated plastic waste which ends up contaminating the marine environment starts with the action or inaction of an individual .... " no like I've said when the council does more I'll do more I used to save paper cardboard in my green bin with my garden waste but not aloud anymore to many containers so now it goes in the grey bin. | |||
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"Not really it all goes in the grey bin but do put garden waste in the green bin sorry to say but until are council starts doing more it can't be arsed Do you not feel that is a bit defeatist Every piece of domestically generated plastic waste which ends up contaminating the marine environment starts with the action or inaction of an individual .... no like I've said when the council does more I'll do more I used to save paper cardboard in my green bin with my garden waste but not aloud anymore to many containers so now it goes in the grey bin. " Yes some local council make it difficult for residents ... Our local council has started imposing a charge for collecting garden waste in the bin they provided..... most people in my area have stopped using the previously inclusive service ... It seems odd the council make it harder to dispose of what is essentially none hazardous waste | |||
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"Do you make concerted effort to responsibly reduce , recycle or eliminate your plastic waste ? " Yes...it's become second nature after living in Germany. | |||
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"Do you make concerted effort to responsibly reduce , recycle or eliminate your plastic waste ? Yes...it's become second nature after living in Germany. " When I was working in the Danish sector I was allays impressed how few plastic bottles were used ..... The vast majority of consumable products that came in bottles were in glass bottles that required a refundable deposit ..... It was system that worked well ... | |||
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"Do you make concerted effort to responsibly reduce , recycle or eliminate your plastic waste ? Yes...it's become second nature after living in Germany. When I was working in the Danish sector I was allays impressed how few plastic bottles were used ..... The vast majority of consumable products that came in bottles were in glass bottles that required a refundable deposit ..... It was system that worked well ... " It really does....the pfand is a ingenious idea ...something I think that we should adapt over here. | |||
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"If you're on Faceache the Marine Conservation Society posted a picture just before 10am today of a whale made of recycled plastic which represents the amount of it going into the ocean every second. Pretty shocking. " I saw that to. We're away at the moment and there's quite a lot of people leaving their rubbish behind on the beach!!! | |||
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"If you're on Faceache the Marine Conservation Society posted a picture just before 10am today of a whale made of recycled plastic which represents the amount of it going into the ocean every second. Pretty shocking. I saw that to. We're away at the moment and there's quite a lot of people leaving their rubbish behind on the beach!!! " I hate that. Some people just think the ocean is a big litter bin. Or that their crap isn't their responsibility. Our council is pretty good for recyling but they charge to take away garden waste. | |||
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"Do you make concerted effort to responsibly reduce , recycle or eliminate your plastic waste ? Yes...it's become second nature after living in Germany. When I was working in the Danish sector I was allays impressed how few plastic bottles were used ..... The vast majority of consumable products that came in bottles were in glass bottles that required a refundable deposit ..... It was system that worked well ... " . What!! Glass bottles with refunds... Its unprovably complex I tell thee | |||
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"It'll give everybody cancer in the long run anyhow and therefore reduce the plastic considerably " I bet we start thinking of alternatives once the oil starts running out! | |||
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"It'll give everybody cancer in the long run anyhow and therefore reduce the plastic considerably I bet we start thinking of alternatives once the oil starts running out!" . It'll never run out... Theres shed loads of the stuff. Not to throw a spanner in the works like but glass is energy intensive stuff, it's made from sand primarily and sand is extracted with diggers and excavators running on diesel, you've then gotta process it and heat it up to the surface of the sun using fossil fuels.... Its why we use plastic and not glass!. At the end ov day ... It's called civilisation | |||
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"I do, I even work for a recycling company. " I pay to have to sorted as rent houses and don't wish to put my hands in there dirty bins. And if beer cans come in plastic around cans I cut each one so no animal can get hurt as I seen what they can do. | |||
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"Germany adds a small fee to drinks in plastic bottles and you can either return the bottle for a refund or, as mostly happens, throw it away so the homeless can collect them for money. Remember the old Barr bottles? That's what needs to e done. Plastic bag usage reduced by 95% when the charge came in. I bet we could reduce plastic bottle usage with a fee." | |||
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"Germany adds a small fee to drinks in plastic bottles and you can either return the bottle for a refund or, as mostly happens, throw it away so the homeless can collect them for money. Remember the old Barr bottles? That's what needs to e done. Plastic bag usage reduced by 95% when the charge came in. I bet we could reduce plastic bottle usage with a fee. " agree.. | |||
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"Proud to say that the extent of my recycling and waste reduction is great, Food waste goes to compost Cans, bottles and containers go to recycling, and since I stopped buying pre package foods. My waste has dropped by more than half. I've bought a lot of items that save me on money and packaging, like my meat slicer, glass storage tubs, and chest freezer it means I use my containers over and over again. And I don't have to buy expensive packs of cold meats. I think we need to go backwards to go forwards. When I was a kid there was hardly any waste. The outside bin smelled of ashtrays and potato peelings, and that was about it " I remember when bins were metal | |||
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"Proud to say that the extent of my recycling and waste reduction is great, Food waste goes to compost Cans, bottles and containers go to recycling, and since I stopped buying pre package foods. My waste has dropped by more than half. I've bought a lot of items that save me on money and packaging, like my meat slicer, glass storage tubs, and chest freezer it means I use my containers over and over again. And I don't have to buy expensive packs of cold meats. I think we need to go backwards to go forwards. When I was a kid there was hardly any waste. The outside bin smelled of ashtrays and potato peelings, and that was about it I remember when bins were metal " So do I. | |||
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"Proud to say that the extent of my recycling and waste reduction is great, Food waste goes to compost Cans, bottles and containers go to recycling, and since I stopped buying pre package foods. My waste has dropped by more than half. I've bought a lot of items that save me on money and packaging, like my meat slicer, glass storage tubs, and chest freezer it means I use my containers over and over again. And I don't have to buy expensive packs of cold meats. I think we need to go backwards to go forwards. When I was a kid there was hardly any waste. The outside bin smelled of ashtrays and potato peelings, and that was about it I remember when bins were metal So do I. " It's even worse when you can remember the ones with metal lids that had that unmistakable sound as they were clashed to the floor during collection... Them new fangled galvanised steel ones with those heavy duty rubber lid just didn't sound the same ..... | |||
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"Proud to say that the extent of my recycling and waste reduction is great, Food waste goes to compost Cans, bottles and containers go to recycling, and since I stopped buying pre package foods. My waste has dropped by more than half. I've bought a lot of items that save me on money and packaging, like my meat slicer, glass storage tubs, and chest freezer it means I use my containers over and over again. And I don't have to buy expensive packs of cold meats. I think we need to go backwards to go forwards. When I was a kid there was hardly any waste. The outside bin smelled of ashtrays and potato peelings, and that was about it I remember when bins were metal " Yes they were two sizes about 50 litre and 90 litres for all the household rubbish (except for newspapers & magazines) including the ash from the coal fire(s). Now we have three 240 litre wheelie bins that get emptied once a fortnight and no coal fires. The main cause of the extra rubbish is unnecessary packaging. While on the subject of pollution how many dry their washing on the clothes line rather than in a tumble drier? | |||
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"Proud to say that the extent of my recycling and waste reduction is great, Food waste goes to compost Cans, bottles and containers go to recycling, and since I stopped buying pre package foods. My waste has dropped by more than half. I've bought a lot of items that save me on money and packaging, like my meat slicer, glass storage tubs, and chest freezer it means I use my containers over and over again. And I don't have to buy expensive packs of cold meats. I think we need to go backwards to go forwards. When I was a kid there was hardly any waste. The outside bin smelled of ashtrays and potato peelings, and that was about it I remember when bins were metal Yes they were two sizes about 50 litre and 90 litres for all the household rubbish (except for newspapers & magazines) including the ash from the coal fire(s). Now we have three 240 litre wheelie bins that get emptied once a fortnight and no coal fires. The main cause of the extra rubbish is unnecessary packaging. While on the subject of pollution how many dry their washing on the clothes line rather than in a tumble drier? " All my washing goes on the line.. | |||
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"Proud to say that the extent of my recycling and waste reduction is great, Food waste goes to compost Cans, bottles and containers go to recycling, and since I stopped buying pre package foods. My waste has dropped by more than half. I've bought a lot of items that save me on money and packaging, like my meat slicer, glass storage tubs, and chest freezer it means I use my containers over and over again. And I don't have to buy expensive packs of cold meats. I think we need to go backwards to go forwards. When I was a kid there was hardly any waste. The outside bin smelled of ashtrays and potato peelings, and that was about it I remember when bins were metal " The amount of clips round the ear I got as a kid for using the bin as a drum while my dad was in bed lol, little shit I was, totally ignored the warning "your dad's on nights, keep the noise down" got me back though, when I started doing nights he came round and made a right racket, funny old bugger, God I miss him | |||
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"Plastic recycling would be far easier if the container manufactures were forced to stick to a restricted choice of ingredient formula.... As it is now... it's hard to find two brands of shampoo bottles made of compatibly recyclable construction This is solely fuelled by marketing and has no practical application other than creating brand identity " . Everybody that works in marketing should kill themselves for the God of humanity.... Coz otherwise we're gonna have to do it for you | |||
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"Germany adds a small fee to drinks in plastic bottles and you can either return the bottle for a refund or, as mostly happens, throw it away so the homeless can collect them for money. Remember the old Barr bottles? That's what needs to e done. Plastic bag usage reduced by 95% when the charge came in. I bet we could reduce plastic bottle usage with a fee." Many US states have deposit fees repaid too, often meaning the homeless tidy areas up and get a small reward for efforts. It's obscene how we humans destroy natural resources and then pollute our world | |||
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"Do you make concerted effort to responsibly reduce , recycle or eliminate your plastic waste ? Yes...it's become second nature after living in Germany. When I was working in the Danish sector I was allays impressed how few plastic bottles were used ..... The vast majority of consumable products that came in bottles were in glass bottles that required a refundable deposit ..... It was system that worked well ... " Was it just like we used to do when we were kids,taking the pop bottles back to the corner shop. | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months." Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for " Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones " You don't need to do that...... just dispose of them responsibly when you no longer have a use for them ..... Typical over reaction from the Teesside contingent | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones You don't need to do that...... just dispose of them responsibly when you no longer have a use for them ..... Typical over reaction from the Teesside contingent " Ok I'll scrap that... as the fecking sun never gets through the smog. I think we are exempt | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones You don't need to do that...... just dispose of them responsibly when you no longer have a use for them ..... Typical over reaction from the Teesside contingent Ok I'll scrap that... as the fecking sun never gets through the smog. I think we are exempt " Well all the more reason for you too support reducing and recycling single use plastics...... Ultimately it will help lift the smog and you will be abbe to see what Teesside really looks like .... | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones You don't need to do that...... just dispose of them responsibly when you no longer have a use for them ..... Typical over reaction from the Teesside contingent Ok I'll scrap that... as the fecking sun never gets through the smog. I think we are exempt Well all the more reason for you too support reducing and recycling single use plastics...... Ultimately it will help lift the smog and you will be abbe to see what Teesside really looks like .... " Make a trip to the top of the roker lighthouse and you'll see | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones You don't need to do that...... just dispose of them responsibly when you no longer have a use for them ..... Typical over reaction from the Teesside contingent Ok I'll scrap that... as the fecking sun never gets through the smog. I think we are exempt Well all the more reason for you too support reducing and recycling single use plastics...... Ultimately it will help lift the smog and you will be abbe to see what Teesside really looks like .... Make a trip to the top of the roker lighthouse and you'll see " Have you ever walked through Roker pier Tunnel .......? It leads from the old lightkeepers cottage to the lighthouse..... Didn't know about that did you huh ! | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones You don't need to do that...... just dispose of them responsibly when you no longer have a use for them ..... Typical over reaction from the Teesside contingent Ok I'll scrap that... as the fecking sun never gets through the smog. I think we are exempt Well all the more reason for you too support reducing and recycling single use plastics...... Ultimately it will help lift the smog and you will be abbe to see what Teesside really looks like .... Make a trip to the top of the roker lighthouse and you'll see Have you ever walked through Roker pier Tunnel .......? It leads from the old lightkeepers cottage to the lighthouse..... Didn't know about that did you huh ! " Is it open yet?. .and yeah we get the same local news as you mackems | |||
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"Genuinely not being flippant about this bit most of the plastic items I leave in the greenhouse disintegrate within a few months. Science shows without doubt that the decomposition of plastic releases harmful gas with significantly adds to the greenhouse effect ,,,,, Responsible waste management is what we should aim for Note for future. ...replace plastic plant pots with terracotta ones You don't need to do that...... just dispose of them responsibly when you no longer have a use for them ..... Typical over reaction from the Teesside contingent Ok I'll scrap that... as the fecking sun never gets through the smog. I think we are exempt Well all the more reason for you too support reducing and recycling single use plastics...... Ultimately it will help lift the smog and you will be abbe to see what Teesside really looks like .... Make a trip to the top of the roker lighthouse and you'll see Have you ever walked through Roker pier Tunnel .......? It leads from the old lightkeepers cottage to the lighthouse..... Didn't know about that did you huh ! Is it open yet?. .and yeah we get the same local news as you mackems " I'm not sure if it's open to the public at the moment ..... I know the plan is to do that and there is restoration work being carried out on the pier and lighthouse right now..... I went along with a local history group ..... | |||
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"A local history group hey " Yeh soxy was the oldest relic there | |||
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"A local history group hey " I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... " Hope you had your way finders on | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on" Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... " Your way back home? | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... Your way back home? " Well without giving too much away ..... I can just about see the pier from the servants quarters of Casa Sox... | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... Your way back home? Well without giving too much away ..... I can just about see the pier from the servants quarters of Casa Sox... " Ah that will be that once fine building...but hence a little rundown Hylton Castle | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... Your way back home? Well without giving too much away ..... I can just about see the pier from the servants quarters of Casa Sox... Ah that will be that once fine building...but hence a little rundown Hylton Castle " You'd need ultra-high powered x-ray vision too see it from there.... | |||
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"Yes, I even got a second recycling bin so I could recycle more x Is it made from recycled or fresh plastic? It amuses me a little that the recycling bins are not bio-degradable and also intensively coloured which makes them unlikely to be recycled. " When they reach the end of their useful life they are recycled to make recycling bins which need to be resistant to bio degradation in oder to have a useful lifetime. | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... Your way back home? Well without giving too much away ..... I can just about see the pier from the servants quarters of Casa Sox... Ah that will be that once fine building...but hence a little rundown Hylton Castle You'd need ultra-high powered x-ray vision too see it from there.... " Give me a little time...I'll find it I spent 2 years up there working for Sunderland housing...before they named themselves after a fucking penguin So I have a fair knowledge of the area | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... Your way back home? Well without giving too much away ..... I can just about see the pier from the servants quarters of Casa Sox... Ah that will be that once fine building...but hence a little rundown Hylton Castle You'd need ultra-high powered x-ray vision too see it from there.... Give me a little time...I'll find it I spent 2 years up there working for Sunderland housing...before they named themselves after a fucking penguin So I have a fair knowledge of the area " Well you'll know we have private security so your chances of gaining entry are slim to none.... but bring your passport just in case ..... | |||
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"A local history group hey I'm sure you can imagine recreational sex is not a subject high on their agenda.... But having a working knowledge of Anoraks sturdy walking shoes and the pros and cons of thermos flasks will keep you in conversation that avoids hair products and personal grooming ...... Hope you had your way finders on Don't be ridiculous,,,, The pier has a lighthouse at the wet end and dry land at the other end I'd hardly lose my baring..... Fuk-sake...... Your way back home? Well without giving too much away ..... I can just about see the pier from the servants quarters of Casa Sox... Ah that will be that once fine building...but hence a little rundown Hylton Castle You'd need ultra-high powered x-ray vision too see it from there.... Give me a little time...I'll find it I spent 2 years up there working for Sunderland housing...before they named themselves after a fucking penguin So I have a fair knowledge of the area Well you'll know we have private security so your chances of gaining entry are slim to none.... but bring your passport just in case ..... " Aw that's me fucked....it's expired | |||
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"Anyone read the recent study done which found plastic fibers in our drinking water? Just another extension of the problem. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/06/plastic-fibres-found-tap-water-around-world-study-reveals" Al Gore summed it up nicely for me with regards to sceptics about how were ruining the world. We'll happily believe scientists about a meteor shower arriving and sit out all night to see it. But if the same scientists tell us we're ruining the world and need to change our actions....well that's inconvenient so let's doubt it!! | |||
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"I may have to look into getting a filter tap for drinking ... Not sure what the cost is.?" They are, unfortunately, also usually made of plastic - adding yet more plastic to the environment. I was reading a book the other day that talked about "opting out." That is, it addressed the issue of facing tough problems in society and instead of fixing those problems, instead choosing to go private - to "opt out" of the societal problem. Perhaps filters and bottled water are just another extension of this. Instead of global outrage at the poor quality of our drinking water we all just opt-out with filters and bottled water. And in the end just exacerbate the original problem. Just a thought. | |||
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"And when did you last drink any water and notice any plastic in it? It's just scaremongering by idiots who have their own agenda. There are far bigger problems in the world to worry about." Yeah. You're probably right. I couldn't see the microfibers.....so it must have been China again with their global warming scaremongering. I feel better now. | |||
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"Spot on post. And those charity adverts asking for £3, presented by some actor, who earned £100 million from his last film. Why doesn't he donate £50 million from that?" I quick Google search identifies a number of sites that highlight the charitable generosity of stars and celebrities who donate vast sums to help allsorts of deserving causes ... I always check them out before slagging anyone off | |||
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"Why is it always the average joe that has to make the changes,fuck that.it's the muti million pound industry's that should be making the changes so an actual difference can be made like swapping out plastic for hemp for example. then we wouldint even have to worry about recycling plastics.it's the same with charity.rich people and that bear with one eye telling poor people to "just give what you can"." I agree to an extent. I think we all have to do something but the brunt of it has to be felt by those who make the products, rather than those who consume. However, they are never going to change if we don't demand that they change. We make demands in a capitalist society with our wallets. We could demand change through our government, but we seem to have ceded that to the wealthy already. | |||
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"Not really it all goes in the grey bin but do put garden waste in the green bin sorry to say but until are council starts doing more it can't be arsed Do you not feel that is a bit defeatist Every piece of domestically generated plastic waste which ends up contaminating the marine environment starts with the action or inaction of an individual .... no like I've said when the council does more I'll do more I used to save paper cardboard in my green bin with my garden waste but not aloud anymore to many containers so now it goes in the grey bin. Yes some local council make it difficult for residents ... Our local council has started imposing a charge for collecting garden waste in the bin they provided..... most people in my area have stopped using the previously inclusive service ... It seems odd the council make it harder to dispose of what is essentially none hazardous waste " The problem with green waste is it always ends up with plastics and other contaminates that make the composted product unuseable. I could happily take a few hundred tones a year to improve my fields if it could be produced as clean compost. It would just require people taking more care sorting their waste...! | |||
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"Except that the cost always comes back on us. And if we insist that the Government insists that the companies swallow the cost, then that is the start of Communism, as the Government is interfering in the free market. And it is fanciful to think that enough people will ever care enough to effect the change. They will just want whatever is the cheapest, hence why the cheapest bottled water is always in plastic and not glass bottles." It isn't fanciful. The idea is to bring it to people's attention. If the cost comes back to us then we have to decide whether the cost is worth it. At some point in the future, it will have to be. There are ways of spreading the costs, especially in the form of taxing corporations and other regulations, but again, we need a government that is interested in doing that. We are in the midst of the 6th mass extinction event in known history. Science is pointing at a crisis for animals and humans alike (with plastics as well as other issues). We all need to decide that its important to us, not have an argument over whose fault it is. We need solutions on how to fix it. | |||
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"There are much bigger issues in the world. And if you tax the corporations, they just pass on that tax to the consumers. " We can deal with more than one thing at a time. And its been shown time and again that costs to corporations aren't passed down in equal ratio to consumers. The same argument has been proven wrong when it comes to the debate over minimum wage. | |||
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"Not really it all goes in the grey bin but do put garden waste in the green bin sorry to say but until are council starts doing more it can't be arsed Do you not feel that is a bit defeatist Every piece of domestically generated plastic waste which ends up contaminating the marine environment starts with the action or inaction of an individual .... no like I've said when the council does more I'll do more I used to save paper cardboard in my green bin with my garden waste but not aloud anymore to many containers so now it goes in the grey bin. Yes some local council make it difficult for residents ... Our local council has started imposing a charge for collecting garden waste in the bin they provided..... most people in my area have stopped using the previously inclusive service ... It seems odd the council make it harder to dispose of what is essentially none hazardous waste The problem with green waste is it always ends up with plastics and other contaminates that make the composted product unuseable. I could happily take a few hundred tones a year to improve my fields if it could be produced as clean compost. It would just require people taking more care sorting their waste...!" Are you a farmer? | |||
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"It's filmed in Panama, and the rubbish is from passing ships who just dump their rubbish overboard and South American countries who have bigger problems to worry about than recycling rubbish." I don't know why you keep falling back on the argument that there are bigger issues. We can deal with multiple issues at once. And some would argue that there really aren't bigger issues, when you look at the biggr picture. | |||
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"Tell that to the many 3rd world countries with no clean water, and where the population are starving. Tell that to North Korea. Tell that to countries that are bankrupt like Venezuala. There were Blue Peter appeals back in the 1970s when I was a kid for starving Africans. 40 years on and they are just as starving. And you think we can solve multiple problems at once. Yeah right! We cannot even solve one!" But I'm not talking about the 3rd world countries. I'm talking about the 1st world countries (and the corporations operating within them) that make most of the plastic harming the environment. Such as the countries in Europe, the U.S., and China. I just hear excuses from your posts instead of solutions. | |||
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"And you criticise me for saying that there are bigger issues! And you have the affront to ignore the whole of the 3rd world! Millions are starving and have no clean water, are diseased and have no quality of life and no life expectancy, and all you are interested is some plastic in the UK. For the last time: T H E R E A R E B I G G E R I S S U E S " You keep missing the point. Is it purposeful? I'm not ignoring the 3rd world. I'm saying the impetus for change lies in the 1st world. Of course things are bad in the 3rd world, but environmentally speaking, it is largely due to the bad practices of the 1st world. If you don't see that, then I guess we will have to agree to disagree. But it doesn't change my assertion that those of us who do see it and who do care, should take steps to rectify the problem before it's too late. I hope I made that clear. I didn't include all caps so one never knows if one's point is getting across. | |||
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"No one is interested though. Just a few environmental loonies. Mainly because it always ends up costing the consumer more, just like the minimum wage has, or it leads to job losses. And the science is always suspect, just like the benefits of diesel cars, that we were all told about a few years ago." . Go on then, show me this science on diesel cars being better for the environment?. I suspect you've made that shit up frankly... Or maybe your confusing science with government think tanks and policy? | |||
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"And you criticise me for saying that there are bigger issues! And you have the affront to ignore the whole of the 3rd world! Millions are starving and have no clean water, are diseased and have no quality of life and no life expectancy, and all you are interested is some plastic in the UK. For the last time: T H E R E A R E B I G G E R I S S U E S " So, is it safe to assume you won't be posting in any forum threads, unless they are about 3rd world starvation? | |||
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"So why did the EU not read the same thing? Why did they push us towards diesel?" . Car manufacturers and lobbyists | |||
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"And you criticise me for saying that there are bigger issues! And you have the affront to ignore the whole of the 3rd world! Millions are starving and have no clean water, are diseased and have no quality of life and no life expectancy, and all you are interested is some plastic in the UK. For the last time: T H E R E A R E B I G G E R I S S U E S " It is rather difficult to actually help the 3rd world, because millions of pounds is raised for them and the only way it can be passed over is to hand it to their government and they do with it what they will, hence there's hardly any improvement compared to the money that has been raised. | |||
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"And if we cannot even solve the problems of 3rd world corruption and birth control, then we don't have much hope of sorting anything else out, which is why we never have. And insofar as the environment is concerned, it is just a nuisance, as it costs us all money, and is inconvenient, and it all seems pointless as a small person in a small country, that doesn't produce much. We are all supposed to be in Europe, but we are closing coal fired power stations, whilst the Germans are opening new ones. Russia, China and India have never signed up to any climate change controls. The US has just binned theirs. And those countries produce more pollution than the rest of the world pu together." Good point. Lets all do nothing about anything then | |||
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"And if we cannot even solve the problems of 3rd world corruption and birth control, then we don't have much hope of sorting anything else out, which is why we never have. And insofar as the environment is concerned, it is just a nuisance, as it costs us all money, and is inconvenient, and it all seems pointless as a small person in a small country, that doesn't produce much. We are all supposed to be in Europe, but we are closing coal fired power stations, whilst the Germans are opening new ones. Russia, China and India have never signed up to any climate change controls. The US has just binned theirs. And those countries produce more pollution than the rest of the world pu together. Good point. Lets all do nothing about anything then" This is what I don't get. Its like arguing that since people are acting wrongly, we therefore shouldn't act rightly. The mind boggles. | |||
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"There are calls for a single use plastic tax and if the money raised by that tax was targeted specifically for cleaning our ocean I will be totally in favour of it. I also feel the hierarchy of waste management would be better served by reducing the amount of waste we create, recycling the waste we do create but more importantly where possible eliminating the production of waste .... " Bio degradable packaging | |||
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"And if we cannot even solve the problems of 3rd world corruption and birth control, then we don't have much hope of sorting anything else out, which is why we never have. And insofar as the environment is concerned, it is just a nuisance, as it costs us all money, and is inconvenient, and it all seems pointless as a small person in a small country, that doesn't produce much. We are all supposed to be in Europe, but we are closing coal fired power stations, whilst the Germans are opening new ones. Russia, China and India have never signed up to any climate change controls. The US has just binned theirs. And those countries produce more pollution than the rest of the world pu together." . It's a bit more complicated than that, Germany binned all there nuclear power stations after Fukushima as a temporary measure they have opened new coal fired power stations, they also produce one of the highest rates of renewable energy as well!!. Russia China and India have signed the Paris accord and last time I looked the USA haven't pulled out yet?. However there's science like Tim Garrett's paper that looks like we can't "solve" climate change, it turns out industrialization is just a giant heat engine which is why people like the Amazon guy have these ideas of putting industry into space and leaving the earth free for "home". Me personally, meh, I think your fucked and you won't make 50 anyhow so go ahead and speed the end process up, outcome is the same | |||
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"But that's about tidying up, to make the place look neater. " Got to start somewhere. | |||
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"But that's about tidying up, to make the place look neater. " If you could solve the 1st world problem of using reply+quote button, your posts would be more understandable..... | |||
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"No I hate that. It makes the post too long. I am just replying to the post above and it is so obvious." Maybe, if you are the next one. Lots of yours have other posts inbetween, can't tell who you are replying to. | |||
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"No I hate that. It makes the post too long. I am just replying to the post above and it is so obvious." You still get 175 posts to a thread..so no point trying to recycle here | |||
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"No I hate that. It makes the post too long. I am just replying to the post above and it is so obvious. Maybe, if you are the next one. Lots of yours have other posts inbetween, can't tell who you are replying to." You were right...two posts has fucked him | |||
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"Do you make concerted effort to responsibly reduce , recycle or eliminate your plastic waste ? " Yes we regularly chuck it over the sea wall...we put it in recycle bins really lol. | |||
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"Do you make concerted effort to responsibly reduce , recycle or eliminate your plastic waste ? Yes we regularly chuck it over the sea wall...we put it in recycle bins really lol. " If everybody (be it a person, a company or a country) does their bit, then over time things will get better. | |||
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"artificial grass should be banned - it will spell the end of the world (as well as earthworms) - can't believe the lazy so and so's that install the stuff - rant over" I know....they are often seen hoovering it....just cut the bloody grass | |||
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"But that's about tidying up, to make the place look neater. " Actually, its also about stopping micro plsstic particles getting into the food chain amongst other things | |||
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