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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Its been a whle since we were all told/adviced to ditch the car...

And use the fantastic public transport we have

So have you ?

I have no choice as i dont drive , but its bloody annoying when the costs are spirraling out of control.

Rail prices are set to rise up to 8% in the new year and my local bus service is now on par with the cost of a taxi.

Where the hell is the good service we were promised ? trains that run on time would be a good start and that your able to sit on would be another..

My local bus service(arriva) only bring down costs when there is competition and promptly raises it to get their own back after the competition have departed.

Kin public transports a joke.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prices will go up... as fuel prices have gone up, insurance has gone up, wages have a minimum amount allowed that goes up..

Overheads on these companies are going up.. so sadly prices do to...

I dont use public transport..and dont really give a damn what mpg my car does either.

cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

prices have gone up

even heard there taking the train prices up 2 8% in january

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

See me....

I would get rid of all cars personally. they fecking up this planet bigtime.

Bring back the horse and carriage and lets feed me tomatoes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if im going to town with a mate in warrington, its now cheaper to get a taxi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only use it when i need it ie nights out

dont drive anyways

use my trusted mountain bike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See me....

I would get rid of all cars personally. they fecking up this planet bigtime.

Bring back the horse and carriage and lets feed me tomatoes

cars are not the evil the green muppets would have you believe.. its just a con to get you to pay more tax on everything.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Motorbikes are the way forward i think. other than that, public transport for me as i don't drive a car.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Way to many in this little country ..stop mothers driving 100 yds to school for a start and make the bloody kids walk, thats why they got legs ffs.

Limit one car to one household.

And all cars should not be made to travel over 50 mls per hour. unless emergency services. why make a car that does 100plus miles an hour when its not legal to go that fast ?

But, this is MY opinion and wouldnt expect car owners to agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See me....

I would get rid of all cars personally. they fecking up this planet bigtime.

Bring back the horse and carriage and lets feed me tomatoes

Think you might be right there but bicycles are better than horses

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Oh not forgetting that most car are belching out tons and tons of carbon monoxide every minute they are on the road.

jeez, and they go on about smoking

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"See me....

I would get rid of all cars personally. they fecking up this planet bigtime.

Bring back the horse and carriage and lets feed me tomatoes

Think you might be right there but bicycles are better than horses

No hoss shite off bikes though

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"See me....

I would get rid of all cars personally. they fecking up this planet bigtime.

Bring back the horse and carriage and lets feed me tomatoes

cars are not the evil the green muppets would have you believe.. its just a con to get you to pay more tax on everything.

Cali

Yup!Have you noticed how all the scientific minds who were bleating about cars and pollution, have been very very quiet? All this talk of Hybrids, that are actually less green than a good diesel if you take into account whole life carbon!

I am not saying that we hoomans are not having some effect, but when you look at how scientific opinion has changed (hence "Global Warming" to "Climate Change"!) and how some are beginning to accept that the weather patterns will fluctuate.

What we do have to do is not waste energy and resources, if they had just said that in the first place, I would have been right on board at the start!

So OP... As you can guess, there is no way you will get me on busses or trains (too damned expensive for one). I like to get to my destination and not have to make my way from a station or bus stop, especially if it is raining or cold!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But just think of the faint clipclop of the horses hooves as you travel from a to b and ...and ...your helping the environment with all the shite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I am one of those annoying people that when funds and drive permits has 4plus cars.. I do use it alot but I also have a disabled child that I drive the 1 mile to school as she couldnt walk it.

I also often have cars capable of well over 100mph.. I often use there speed and handling.. as enjoyment..( on a track)

The anti car brigade always amuse me with their clap trap about how much cars polute when the actual fact is that electric cars are far less efficient when you work out how they are made etc.. how they are charged..

I loved annoying my green neighbours when I had a v8 range rover, a v6 mg, and a subaru and an alfa.. all very not green friendly cars but mmmm did they all sound good..

I do agree with not using cars unless you have to... and car sharing.. but only because it helps with the stupid costs being forced on the motorists now they are losing money from the smokers...

I do about 14k a year in my cars.. and 50mph would be a stupid speed... as most cars are most fuel efficient at 60 not 50.. and it would take me forever to get somewhere.. its bad enough at 70ish...

for me I would campaign to get the motorways like the autobahns... would stop being a money making exercise then.. as speed is rarely the soul cause of accidents..( I know from riding motorbikes at speed) that its rarely the speed that causes the issues.. Driver error is the biggest factor.. or those that dont allow for the higher speed..

Tail gaters and those doing stupidly slow speeds on slow windy roads cause more problems than speeders... as I have seen many a crash caused because people get frustrated stuck behind some muppet driving slowly.

But back on topic.. Most public transport will get more expensive as the government has cut the money they put into it... Buses are not cheap to buy... and many cities are demanding the bus companies have new eco friendly buses... at a cost of well over 100k...

cali

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ok then....60mls per hour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok then....60mls per hour

I have to do a trip of over 200miles on a regular basis.. already takes me at least 3 hours..

I think it should have no upper limit on some roads..

I would pay to use a road that was like that..

btw... if I wanted to get a bus from my house with the kids to my local town shopping centre.. it would cost me £18

If I took the car it would cost me less than a fiver.. and then £3-5 to park...

I would be door to door with the car.. and in fact I worked out that I could actually have thrashed the scooby down the lanes on the way there..had a hoot getting there...and it been cheaper.

oh..and I actually throw up as a passenger or if on a bus... if on the bus for more than 15 mins.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Way to many in this little country ..stop mothers driving 100 yds to school for a start and make the bloody kids walk, thats why they got legs ffs."

agree with this wholeheartedly the walking bus that some areas do is a fabulous idea

"Limit one car to one household."

not really practical when each member of the household work varying hours a lot of miles apart trust me i know we have to share a car and if we could afford to run a second one we would in a heartbeat would save a lot of hours for us

"And all cars should not be made to travel over 50 mls per hour. unless emergency services. why make a car that does 100plus miles an hour when its not legal to go that fast ?

bugger orf mrs you are so obviuosly not a driver and have not a clue how frustrating it is being stuck behind a pooteler they drive me insane, yes i know a journey that won't take much fuel tut

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

dont ya just love these cardrivers being so defensive .

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By *ex.IncCouple
over a year ago

Castleford

On occasion ill get the train. But ill never get on a peasant wagon. Spent too many years of my life on them before i could drive.

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

No one has highlighted the real problem with using public transport.

The pissed dude upstairs at the back having a piss. They all have one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dont ya just love these cardrivers being so defensive .

too bloody right

i'm a novice driver only passed a year ago and cannot believe it took me so long to get round to it now its changed my life i bloody love it i'll defend it with every inch of my being, n thats a damn lot of inches

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No one has highlighted the real problem with using public transport.

The pissed dude upstairs at the back having a piss. They all have one."

sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Public transport is bad enough as it is now with trains running late.. how would it cope if everyone in the country were to start using it?

I do see your point Peaches on why make a car to do 100mph if the fastest legally is 70pmh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

also it would be a pain in the ass to take a pushchair everywhere, and those people who don't have children would end up bitching about the space we take up :D

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

I used to be able to get a bus into Glasgow that would take 35 mins and cost £3.80. Now I have to get a bus and a train which takes twice as long and costs 3 times as much!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never had a problem I don't drive so I love going on a train always feels like a little holiday. Like going on a bus makes me laugh though as they are all low liners now. Mums and buggies have it so easy remember having to pass baby to driver while I collapsed silver cross pushchair.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Bermuda took the initiative many years ago to limit households to one car and twenty miles per hour speed limit. Although populated by muli millionaires most walk or use a taxi.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Bermuda took the initiative many years ago to limit households to one car and twenty miles per hour speed limit. Although populated by muli millionaires most walk or use a taxi."

Perhaps THEY can afford it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do see your point Peaches on why make a car to do 100mph if the fastest legally is 70pmh. "

because there are plenty of places you can take your car well over 100mph

cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tra and I both have to travel into London every day for work. Cancelled trains,late running,short trains,people packed in,a joke of a weekend service for such a city.

For this we pay a combined fare of £4900 pa

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"For this we pay a combined fare of £4900 pa"

AY CARAMBA!!!

Get a car! They are cheaper and you don't get all that black shit up your nose from the tube.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For this we pay a combined fare of £4900 pa

AY CARAMBA!!!

Get a car! They are cheaper and you don't get all that black shit up your nose from the tube."

Congestion charge and parking would come to that alone.Let alone petrol,depreciation etc

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

"For this we pay a combined fare of £4900 pa

AY CARAMBA!!!

Get a car! They are cheaper and you don't get all that black shit up your nose from the tube.

Congestion charge and parking would come to that alone.Let alone petrol,depreciation etc"

Buy a scrap car for every day you need one and don't register it.

Just leave them in the streets when you're done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For this we pay a combined fare of £4900 pa

AY CARAMBA!!!

Get a car! They are cheaper and you don't get all that black shit up your nose from the tube.

Congestion charge and parking would come to that alone.Let alone petrol,depreciation etc

Buy a scrap car for every day you need one and don't register it.

Just leave them in the streets when you're done."

When Marcel Desailly was at Chelsea he went shopping in Knightsbridge he forgot where he parked his car.so he just went home.never gave it another thought.

Carlton Cole thought you only had to pay the congestion charge once.Til the bailiffs turned up at Chelsea's training ground!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are some cars I believe that you dont pay the congestion charge..

It is a joke.. my dad lives in outer london and right on the edge of the travelzones..and the amount of people that park down the side streets and then bus or get the tube in from there is a nightmare.. but it can mean that residents cant get there own cars outside thier houses.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's nowhere to park in Central London without it costing an arm and a leg. Westminster meters are about £4 an hour. Some NCP carparks in W1 are £46 a day!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i like cars

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By *uss PussWoman
over a year ago

east cheshire

My daily journey to and from work is an 80 mile round trip, takes me approx 45 mins as its all motorway. I looked into going on the train....3 fucking hours!!! bollox to that!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In theory public transport sounds good but its not practical for me when its 50 mins by car and 2 1/2hrs on the train and bus.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

See...

excuses excuses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We tend use taxis a lot

I like to hold up numbered cards so people think I'm on Come Dine With Me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thread i have to contribute to, without the car this country would grind to a stand still, public transport couldnt cope with anywhere near the amout of travelling the people in this counrty need to do on a regular basis, then all of those tree huggers consider the filthy black smoke you see churning out of the buses on the roads then look at the age of some of them, ive seen as old as G reg still running around our roads but still charing 2011 prices to travel on them, then take into consideration these buses can run as badly as 5 miles to the gallon eating away at our diesel reserves some times just running around empty, they run regardless if they are full or empty for their timetables so is that environmentally friendly? our cars only run around when we are actually using them not empty! so theres one to think about, aswell as that theses buses are on the road every day full or empty, cars only on the road when they are used for a purpose, not to mention that using a car for a family of four would cost less in fuel than the price of four bus fares and only take the direct route you require to your destination and not half way round the world on a bus route taking twice the distance to where you are going, i really dont think the tree huggers have actually though their public transport over cars arguement. Cars are being designed more environmentally friendly every year and bus companies buy their fleet from the lowest bidder to maximise profit so think about all this in all of its aspects and you can see for yourself exactly why people prefer their cars:

1)Only used when needed and not running the roads empty every single day

2) driven the shortest way to the destination your travelling to.

3)Much better fuel economy than a bus

4)More convenient and fit to your timetable and not a bus companies

Just think about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

some places public transport is much better and cheaper than others. Hereabouts it's not bad but too expensive and sometimes will work out cheaper to taxi if there are two or three of you.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"There are some cars I believe that you dont pay the congestion charge..

Cali "

They live in the roads....they don't own the roads.

With very rare exceptions, when you buy a house you are only buying the house and not a part of the road.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I looked into how I would manage without the car when I went part time earlier this year and was amazed to find its cheaper to run a car than use public transport to get to work.

It would take me about two hours to get to work on public transport rather than the 20 mins it does in the car.

did try not to use the car whilst not at work and it was a disaster, my normally organised life was turned upside down relying on buses that didnt turn up and trains that were cancelled.

Until theirs an incentive for me to give up the car Ill stick to having my wee box on wheels.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"Public transport is bad enough as it is now with trains running late.. how would it cope if everyone in the country were to start using it?

I do see your point Peaches on why make a car to do 100mph if the fastest legally is 70pmh. "

The top speed on cars is so high to enable engines to "cruise" at 70 mph without thrashing the bollox out of it.

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By *ornyHorwichCpl aka HHCCouple
over a year ago

horwich

Have no choice because I don't drive.

Never having had a car I don't miss the convenience.

Don't get me wrong sometimes a car would be handy but I just plan better.

Yes i get annoyed sometimes when they are late or don't turn up but that's life.

I sometime think about going for my license but there are just too many idiots on the road. Only time I do miss it is on holiday.

But you have not lived until you have travelled by bus in India where they are hanging off the roof. You fear for your life but better than any rollercoaster.

Scarlett

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