FabSwingers.com forum: news debate "upskirting"

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Wrong or a voyeuristic paradise?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Working in the road digging ditches.... Ok.

Attaching mirrors to shoes... Suspect.

Video equipment on walking sticks.. Definitely a no no

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Wrong fs.would you mind if some creep was looking up your daughters skirt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I genuinely hope they make it an offence that carries the sentence of being placed on the sex offenders register

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I genuinely hope they make it an offence that carries the sentence of being placed on the sex offenders register

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Gimme the 10k first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I genuinely hope they make it an offence that carries the sentence of being placed on the sex offenders register

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As a father of a 16yo girl I couldn't agree more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Getting an unexpected peek should be seen as a personal treat. Making efforts to get a peek is pretty foul unless the other person hs given some kind of prior consent (I've met with people who love to flash furtive glances at their bits).

Clothes should not be seen as consent, I think that's where the problem is with some men - they see a short skirt and think the woman's dressed like she wants it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Think in some parts of Asia where it was particularly prevelant they have signs on tubes underground's and trains that have outlawed it signs suggesting of banning it... would this be a good way to go?

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Heard the news article on this yesterday and frankly was shocked to find that the act that's bought it to the news, two men at a gig taking pics up a woman's skirt without her knowledge and permission, was in fact not illegal in England and Wales unless under very specific circumstances.

Whilst we've all had an inadvertant sneaky glimpse of underwear etc whilst going about our daily business from time to time - to deliberately set about getting that glimpse, or worse, recording images of it - is a violation of anyone's privacy/decency and I hope the young lady that is trying to get the law changed is successful in doing so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think in some parts of Asia where it was particularly prevelant they have signs on tubes underground's and trains that have outlawed it signs suggesting of banning it... would this be a good way to go? "

Is it prevalent here, would you say? In Japan they even disable the option to have a silent camera on phones in order to prevent this behaviour.

The key, as with all matters of sex offences, is proper education of men at the age when they're becoming curious about women. I for one am an advocate of not allowing children to use the internet unmonitored until they are at least 16 and have matured enough to understand the consequences of online behaviour. The easy accessibility of the internet has gone a long way to instilling and cementing certain attitudes prevalent in men in today's society. Kids hang out in echo chambers where they don't get the chance to learn that the way they speak about others is wrong, and so it becomes a learned behavioural trait. I'd be interested to see if any societal studies have taken place on how free access to the internet can shape a child's mind.

Ooops, rant over!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Very true education is important, it's moved on significantly since the statutory sex Ed classed what a condom does what an erection is.. etc etc a more in depth programme is needed... but does that need to be done by school or the parents?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Parents need to take responsibility for their children's internet access, and education needs to be carried out by the schools as that's the best and most impartial place for it to happen. It also needs to be more than "don't do this or that" dictating which was the extent of it when I was a kid. It needs to be structured in a way that allows children to explore and reach their own conclusion on why certain behaviours are not acceptable, whilst guiding them towards that outcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you get a cheeky glance by chance then I think that's fine.

But if you are deliberately trying to look up their skirt or dress then that's creepy and wrong in my opinion and if you are recording it or taking pictures - that's even worse.

If I ever caught anyone trying to peek at my bum deliberately they would get a swift kick to the jaw.

~Mia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Working in the road digging ditches.... Ok.

Attaching mirrors to shoes... Suspect.

Video equipment on walking sticks.. Definitely a no no

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

Videoing unsuspecting women up their skirts. None of that sounds right does it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to do promotional work for a leasure company years ago, and I spent 2 weeks at a shopping centre, where we were positioned under a set of stairs, it's so hard not to look when it's just there in your line of sight, I tried, but to actively attempt to do it on purpose. It's a but creepy to say the least.

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