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£10000 to be a sex offender.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So for those of you who follow the news, you may have seen coverage of Northumbria Police paying an offender to inform on others which resulted in the arrest of 19 offenders, which would have probably gone undetected otherwise.

The story has caused controversy. Wasting money ? Doing what needs to be done? Why not spend money on the victims?

This is the harsh reality of dealing with such crimes. Do you condone their decisions? In a society where people pride themselves in not being a grass above doing the right thing, what are your thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a paedophile ring has been smashed then I'd say it was money well spent. Believe me, this guy won't have had free reign to do as he pleased, he'd have been using police installed equipment and every key stroke will have been monitored and recorded. Like one detective said, you set a thief to catch a thief.

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By *ecs2die4Man
over a year ago

Bristol

It's hilarious how people will declare moral outrage, yet do f*ck all themselves. If it helps save one existing victims or one potential victim of further abuse it is validated and money well spent. Give the police some credit, I am sure if they had leverage on the person that would have been used first.

Ironic to be discussing morality on a swinging site...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When large amounts of money are offered in exchange for information, there will always be those people who are motivated by the money and that could in the long run lead to convictions being quashed and scumbags being set free to walk among our children.

No if they have information when £10k is waved in their face, they would still have that information when faced with being on general population in jail

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"If a paedophile ring has been smashed then I'd say it was money well spent. Believe me, this guy won't have had free reign to do as he pleased, he'd have been using police installed equipment and every key stroke will have been monitored and recorded. Like one detective said, you set a thief to catch a thief. "

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yes I condone their decision. In a world where people happily donate to go fund me pages for people to get a dog I think ten grand was cheap. Also the guy they paid is on the police radar now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure why your post title was £10,000 TO BE a sex offender. A bit misleading. It was £10,00 TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING OTHER SEX OFFENDERS, and break a sex ring crime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Devil's advocte time:

Worth saying that sometimes to catch a criminal you have to think like a criminal - much easier to get in with these groups using ex-cons with provable records than to use an undercover cop and put that person at risk.

It's also worth saying that he paid his penance as decided by the courts of the land so is now free to seek gainful employment.

We could have saved ourselves ten grand by not paying a convicted criminal, but then we could have lost the opportunity to expose this group and get them where they belong. It's a tough balancing act, and I think the ends justified the means in this case, personally.

Intelligence agencies work on a broadly similar principle, however they will allow lesser crimes to happen in order to expose a greater crime network. After all, why go for the small fry if they can help you take down the big fish at the top?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does raise questions, and disgust at first reaction.

But the fact is that it has done the job, and sometimes we just have to do things that we don't like in life. It must have been a hard decision to take, and overall I do support the Police in taking this difficult line.

I think that maybe there is a side benefit in that it will make other abusers aware that people around them will sell them out - their secrets will be less safe now... I hope so, anyway!

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By *imetoexplore69Couple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Why not just pretend to give them 10k and when he snitches just be like fuck off ya pedo your getting nothing or even just take it back.problem solved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

£526 per arrest, money well spent.

I'm sure there's people in this world who would win the lottery and complain it's not enough.

People are so quick to criticise the police for not doing enough, then in the next breath criticise them for spending £10k to get 19 arrests for pedophiles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I recently read a book by a girl who had been abused in Shropshire. At one pout she was carried d*unk into a house at midnight by three men, and then next morning staggered naked into the street after having been sexually assaulted. The people opposite came out to help her. They told her they had seen her carried in. She told them what had happened. Did they call the police? No. She was 14 years old. 14 years old, carried into a house by men and they didn't call the police.

In that sort of society when conscience is absent then the police need to do what they can to catch the perverts. As Churchull said if Russia - my enemies enemy is my friend (at least for the time being) in Northumbria, the enemy had two enemies - the police and this informer - and whilst it makes uncomfortable reading the fact is he helped put away a load of perverts

Well done I say

Oh and then nick him and go for proceeds of crime on him...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not sure why your post title was £10,000 TO BE a sex offender. A bit misleading. It was £10,00 TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING OTHER SEX OFFENDERS, and break a sex ring crime."

It's a figure of speech. The informant was a convicted offender, who was paid for his insight into the world that is notoriously secretive.

So semantics on this occasion me thinks !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where do I sign up

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why not just pretend to give them 10k and when he snitches just be like fuck off ya pedo your getting nothing or even just take it back.problem solved."

True...however That's closed the door to future use of human intelligence sources.

And in relation to previous posts, the threat of prison isn't much of a deterrent these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why your post title was £10,000 TO BE a sex offender. A bit misleading. It was £10,00 TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING OTHER SEX OFFENDERS, and break a sex ring crime.

It's a figure of speech. The informant was a convicted offender, who was paid for his insight into the world that is notoriously secretive.

So semantics on this occasion me thinks !!! "

Not really, he wsn't paid to be a sex offender, was he? In that, he wasn't paid to offend sexually. He was paid to provide information on other people who were carrying out child abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why your post title was £10,000 TO BE a sex offender. A bit misleading. It was £10,00 TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING OTHER SEX OFFENDERS, and break a sex ring crime.

It's a figure of speech. The informant was a convicted offender, who was paid for his insight into the world that is notoriously secretive.

So semantics on this occasion me thinks !!! "

It was a clear attempt to grab attention with a misleading headline. Something I would expect of The Sun newspaper.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This whole case has cost literally millions of pounds! So the 10 thousand pounds is really a drop in the ocean.

Having said that it would be good if the person who recieved this donated the money to a just cause in help victims of abuse.

It would be the right thing for him to do I feel.

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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

As our criminal Justice is based on rehabilitation rather than retribution and the informant committed no crimes in the process.

The question is do the ends justify the means... ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"This whole case has cost literally millions of pounds! So the 10 thousand pounds is really a drop in the ocean.

Having said that it would be good if the person who recieved this donated the money to a just cause in help victims of abuse.

It would be the right thing for him to do I feel. "

I don't think his idea of right is the same as mine.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

The lesser of 18 evils

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not sure why your post title was £10,000 TO BE a sex offender. A bit misleading. It was £10,00 TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING OTHER SEX OFFENDERS, and break a sex ring crime.

It's a figure of speech. The informant was a convicted offender, who was paid for his insight into the world that is notoriously secretive.

So semantics on this occasion me thinks !!!

It was a clear attempt to grab attention with a misleading headline. Something I would expect of The Sun newspaper."

Oh dear....that's what headlines do. But I value your contribution to the discussion .....which was ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This whole case has cost literally millions of pounds! So the 10 thousand pounds is really a drop in the ocean.

Having said that it would be good if the person who recieved this donated the money to a just cause in help victims of abuse.

It would be the right thing for him to do I feel.

I don't think his idea of right is the same as mine."

Who's mine or the informant?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why your post title was £10,000 TO BE a sex offender. A bit misleading. It was £10,00 TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING OTHER SEX OFFENDERS, and break a sex ring crime.

It's a figure of speech. The informant was a convicted offender, who was paid for his insight into the world that is notoriously secretive.

So semantics on this occasion me thinks !!!

It was a clear attempt to grab attention with a misleading headline. Something I would expect of The Sun newspaper.

Oh dear....that's what headlines do. But I value your contribution to the discussion .....which was ? "

Enough to rattle you in trying to dismiss my point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why your post title was £10,000 TO BE a sex offender. A bit misleading. It was £10,00 TO ASSIST IN IDENTIFYING OTHER SEX OFFENDERS, and break a sex ring crime.

It's a figure of speech. The informant was a convicted offender, who was paid for his insight into the world that is notoriously secretive.

So semantics on this occasion me thinks !!!

Not really, he wsn't paid to be a sex offender, was he? In that, he wasn't paid to offend sexually. He was paid to provide information on other people who were carrying out child abuse.

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Oh look, someone else agrees OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£526 per arrest, money well spent.

I'm sure there's people in this world who would win the lottery and complain it's not enough.

People are so quick to criticise the police for not doing enough, then in the next breath criticise them for spending £10k to get 19 arrests for pedophiles "

I agree

A helping hand is a helping hand, clean or dirty

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

I watched the coverage on the BBC news this morning and it seemed that the police were being given a probably unfair hard time. My question would be why didn't they also question the representative of the NSPCC on why they wanted the intellegence gathering to take much longer and therefore putting more girls at risk and extending the suffering of those already being abused?

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