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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I think its an insult to give carers that look after elderly relatives or children an increase of 25 pence a week,being a carer is a 24 hour job,if they were put in homes it would cost thousands a week to keep them,if they dont have their own money or property to sell for their keep.Its not my fault i cant go back to work,my responsibilty is to my mother,as i refuse to put her in a home.Work out how much 62.82 per week is at an hourly rate.This country spends millions on other countries,about time they looked after their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think its an insult to give carers that look after elderly relatives or children an increase of 25 pence a week,being a carer is a 24 hour job,if they were put in homes it would cost thousands a week to keep them,if they dont have their own money or property to sell for their keep.Its not my fault i cant go back to work,my responsibilty is to my mother,as i refuse to put her in a home.Work out how much 62.82 per week is at an hourly rate.This country spends millions on other countries,about time they looked after their own."

Here here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Carers allowance is pitiful

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"I think its an insult to give carers that look after elderly relatives or children an increase of 25 pence a week,being a carer is a 24 hour job,if they were put in homes it would cost thousands a week to keep them,if they dont have their own money or property to sell for their keep.Its not my fault i cant go back to work,my responsibilty is to my mother,as i refuse to put her in a home.Work out how much 62.82 per week is at an hourly rate.This country spends millions on other countries,about time they looked after their own."

I agree any government should view anyone who cares full time for a relative as working for the state and play them at least the national minimum wage tax free .

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

I don't know what the answer is, but yes it is pitiful. Carers are also people that look after sick loved ones. I did for ten months myself, but our financial situation was acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell me about it, and then people look down their noses at you like you aren't worth anything. Well let them try walking a day in my shoes. 18 hour days 7 days a week and not being able to walk away from the job. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think its an insult to give carers that look after elderly relatives or children an increase of 25 pence a week,being a carer is a 24 hour job,if they were put in homes it would cost thousands a week to keep them,if they dont have their own money or property to sell for their keep.Its not my fault i cant go back to work,my responsibilty is to my mother,as i refuse to put her in a home.Work out how much 62.82 per week is at an hourly rate.This country spends millions on other countries,about time they looked after their own."

True words passionately said OP

I think right now we have a chance to 'start again' and get our own house in order, (starting with agriculture) to become self reliant/sufficient/sustainable. Thus being able to create a fairer society and close the class divide a little.

Fuzz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have 3 kids all with disabilities so know exactly where you're coming from.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I know how you feel,it is a 24 job,but we love them,so we care for them,though some days i am worn out,but just carry on.Even on bad days i dont regret a minute of caring.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have 3 kids all with disabilities so know exactly where you're coming from."
..I feel for you that must be so hard,,but they are yours and you care.But this goverment couldnt give a dam.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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they know it's in your nature to care so you won't go on strike (coz you can't really) so they do take the piss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"they know it's in your nature to care so you won't go on strike (coz you can't really) so they do take the piss."

This

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

You cant go on strike when a person relies on you 24 hours.I wouldnt anyway,shes golden.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

My situation was financially easier because my husband was getting highest level PIP. So combined the benefit was around £900 a month.

I know this is high and I think it's to suit the relative problem - short term terminal illness.

Wondering OP if this isn't the case for you in a different way. I mean yes the carers allowance is low, but don't other benefits your mother gets make this better?

I guess it's all circumstantial. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You cant go on strike when a person relies on you 24 hours.I wouldnt anyway,shes golden. "

Been there. It's hard, really hard.

Can you get respite care in to give you a break? You don't normally pay for it.

Also, and again it's been a few years so things may have changed, does your mother get an extra allowance to give to you?

Not sure if it's attendance allowance?

You're doing a great job xx

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

I'm was carer for my middle son for 7yrs, life on the pittance you recieved was impossible.

I regularly relied on food banks to feed my children.

He now attends a residential school Mon to Fri, and I've been able to return to work.

But school holidays, like now when he's home for 8 weeks I have to stop work, then wait for weeks to reclaim any allowances.

I'm lucky that my mum helps support us, but I only ask as a complete last resort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I,m my 17 year old daughter's carer. I don't get carers allowance because I get widowed parents allowance until she's 20, then go back to carers allowance. So I didn't know the increase was only 25p this year. There's very little funding for adult services either xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i cared for a past partner for almost a year before he passed away - if i got carers allowance together we would have been worse of than i was claiming jsa (was made redundant 2 weeks after he was disgnosed) - mad times - think it was 58 a week back then

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

We carers are treated appallingly by the government/DWP and the media also include us in their benefit scroungers stance.

The amount of money they give us is pitiful for the amount of hours we have to work (minimum 35 per week). We get £10 a week less than someone who is unemployed and claiming jobseeker's allowance and we get no entitlement to free prescriptions etc.

An employed carer working 35 hours a week would receive £262.50 per week on minimum wage before deductions.

We are "allowed" to work providing we don't earn more than £115 per week. The reality is many of us have no option but to work part time to make ends meet and we have to leave the disabled person we look after to fend for themselves while we do. The worry and stress this causes us is immense. There is very little help and support out there for us and the person we look after so we just have to try and get by.

Sadly I can't see the situation ever changing. We won't take a stand and refuse to do it anymore because we do it out of love for our family member but unless we all down tools and insist on the government/local authority stepping in to provide the care nothing will change.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You cant go on strike when a person relies on you 24 hours.I wouldnt anyway,shes golden.

Been there. It's hard, really hard.

Can you get respite care in to give you a break? You don't normally pay for it.

Also, and again it's been a few years so things may have changed, does your mother get an extra allowance to give to you?

Not sure if it's attendance allowance?

You're doing a great job xx

"
..Thankyou,yes she gets an attendance allowence,but that money goes in personal items,pads etc,cream,as our doctors only allow so much a month and we use much more,so we have to pay,thats another story,as she worked for 74.years,and gave the goverment loads ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Its really sad to see others members in the same position,but there is nothing we can do.We are so on our own.Ive asked about getting help,but yet again its more money,and i asked for an agency nurse and it was six weeks before they had anyone that could come here.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville


"Its really sad to see others members in the same position,but there is nothing we can do.We are so on our own.Ive asked about getting help,but yet again its more money,and i asked for an agency nurse and it was six weeks before they had anyone that could come here."

I suppose it's taking advantage of the most vulnerable in society. People who have neither the time or energy to speak out. Very sad, but your mums lucky she has you caring for her x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Cared for my father to,he made me promise to look after my mother when he passed ,and i have,i also have three great brothers who support me,but its not for the men to care for their mother,wouldnt expect them to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The lady next door to me is in a very bad way and it is her 21 year old son mainly who cares for her, she has a nurse 3 times a day but her son does most stuff. XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My neighbour is a carer for her son. She gets around £250 carers allowance , some income support and pip. Luckily her son gets the high rate so at least they have a car. She struggles with money has no social life but loves her lad dearly. A lovely lady doing a good job but just getting by. I recently bought a caravan and let them borrow it. Drive it to the coast for them and drove it back a week later. First holiday they had had in years. She cried with joy.

Carers should get a wage. They certainly deserve one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We carers are treated appallingly by the government/DWP and the media also include us in their benefit scroungers stance.

The amount of money they give us is pitiful for the amount of hours we have to work (minimum 35 per week). We get £10 a week less than someone who is unemployed and claiming jobseeker's allowance and we get no entitlement to free prescriptions etc.

An employed carer working 35 hours a week would receive £262.50 per week on minimum wage before deductions.

We are "allowed" to work providing we don't earn more than £115 per week. The reality is many of us have no option but to work part time to make ends meet and we have to leave the disabled person we look after to fend for themselves while we do. The worry and stress this causes us is immense. There is very little help and support out there for us and the person we look after so we just have to try and get by.

Sadly I can't see the situation ever changing. We won't take a stand and refuse to do it anymore because we do it out of love for our family member but unless we all down tools and insist on the government/local authority stepping in to provide the care nothing will change. "

sounds as though nothing has changed -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wrk as a carer. Sat night we had 39 residents to look after between 2 of us carers & a nurse. Basically the carers do the work while the nurses are there for drugs etc. We were working flat out from 2000-0800 no break because short staffed doing pad changes/toileting etc. We checked on a new admission at 0300 to find her virtually unresponsive. Nurse was advised. I suggested ambulance and nurse only rang out of hrs doc. I left her & colleague with woman to check on someone else. Arriving bk 10mins later the woman was dead. Wrkn between nurse & i we gave cpr for 20 mins til medics arrived but she was gone. It is a disgrace we don't get paid enough for what we do & were constantly short staffed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

How can two staff take care of 19 people each,thats a lot of work,even in hospitals there are at least six nurses to a bay of four beds ,thats wrong .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its totally against the law. We can't provide a proper service. Unfair on residents nor us. That death was final straw & i hve been in contact with RQIA this morn.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"How can two staff take care of 19 people each,thats a lot of work,even in hospitals there are at least six nurses to a bay of four beds ,thats wrong ."

can't get the staff in. think it's partly a vicious circle as well coz the staff they can get in end up over worked and leave eventually as it's impossible for most people to cope with the hours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can two staff take care of 19 people each,thats a lot of work,even in hospitals there are at least six nurses to a bay of four beds ,thats wrong ."

which hospital have you been in at nighttime? - i work in a severe dementia care home - most on a unit is 15 we have a nurse and 2 carers at night - daytime is different as we have a lot of one on ones and some two on ones - but these people have dols in place and are in cotted beds at night -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can two staff take care of 19 people each,thats a lot of work,even in hospitals there are at least six nurses to a bay of four beds ,thats wrong .

can't get the staff in. think it's partly a vicious circle as well coz the staff they can get in end up over worked and leave eventually as it's impossible for most people to cope with the hours."

U said it... i'm at my wits end atm. U can't function properly on no breaks. By 5am the other morning i was ready for throwing up as we hadn't even had 10 mins from 2000. Too much responsibility for 2 carers & 1 nurse for 39 residents plus we weren't expecting to be doing cpr on a woman & later dealing with her death.

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts


"I think its an insult to give carers that look after elderly relatives or children an increase of 25 pence a week,being a carer is a 24 hour job,if they were put in homes it would cost thousands a week to keep them,if they dont have their own money or property to sell for their keep.Its not my fault i cant go back to work,my responsibilty is to my mother,as i refuse to put her in a home.Work out how much 62.82 per week is at an hourly rate.This country spends millions on other countries,about time they looked after their own."

Well when my wife was carer for her mother, the government technically gave her nothing as the amount she got as a carer was deducted from her mums pension ... plus £1,

at the time, wife got £59 a week, but her mums pension was dropped by £60 to cover it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its totally against the law. We can't provide a proper service. Unfair on residents nor us. That death was final straw & i hve been in contact with RQIA this morn. "

if its just you cant get the regular staff then why not get agency in to up the numbers to the required level - cqc are there for a reason

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"How can two staff take care of 19 people each,thats a lot of work,even in hospitals there are at least six nurses to a bay of four beds ,thats wrong .

can't get the staff in. think it's partly a vicious circle as well coz the staff they can get in end up over worked and leave eventually as it's impossible for most people to cope with the hours.

U said it... i'm at my wits end atm. U can't function properly on no breaks. By 5am the other morning i was ready for throwing up as we hadn't even had 10 mins from 2000. Too much responsibility for 2 carers & 1 nurse for 39 residents plus we weren't expecting to be doing cpr on a woman & later dealing with her death. "

hope RQIA do something.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Its totally against the law. We can't provide a proper service. Unfair on residents nor us. That death was final straw & i hve been in contact with RQIA this morn.

if its just you cant get the regular staff then why not get agency in to up the numbers to the required level - cqc are there for a reason "

nobody wants to work the hours, and the ones who do/can end up over worked.

the pay is shit also, they could give incentives to work that way but nobody will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its totally against the law. We can't provide a proper service. Unfair on residents nor us. That death was final straw & i hve been in contact with RQIA this morn.

if its just you cant get the regular staff then why not get agency in to up the numbers to the required level - cqc are there for a reason

nobody wants to work the hours, and the ones who do/can end up over worked.

the pay is shit also, they could give incentives to work that way but nobody will."

most of social care are these hours -

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Its totally against the law. We can't provide a proper service. Unfair on residents nor us. That death was final straw & i hve been in contact with RQIA this morn.

if its just you cant get the regular staff then why not get agency in to up the numbers to the required level - cqc are there for a reason

nobody wants to work the hours, and the ones who do/can end up over worked.

the pay is shit also, they could give incentives to work that way but nobody will.

most of social care are these hours - "

they're not. but if people don't want to work the hours what does it matter anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Carers are the unsung hero's of the community.....

They deserve all the financial, physical and emotional support they need .....

The system is broke and those who make the policy decisions seem completely detached from reality of the situations carers contend with 24/7.....

My heart goes out to carers....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Its the young carers my heart goes out to,some as young as seven,look after a parent,what kind odf life is this for a child,they should be care free at such a young age,but they do care and never complain,because its their mum or dad.Maybe i am lucky as i get a carers magazine every now and then through the post,but nobody visits,but then i am a trained nurse,so they think maybe i can cope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can two staff take care of 19 people each,thats a lot of work,even in hospitals there are at least six nurses to a bay of four beds ,thats wrong .

can't get the staff in. think it's partly a vicious circle as well coz the staff they can get in end up over worked and leave eventually as it's impossible for most people to cope with the hours.

U said it... i'm at my wits end atm. U can't function properly on no breaks. By 5am the other morning i was ready for throwing up as we hadn't even had 10 mins from 2000. Too much responsibility for 2 carers & 1 nurse for 39 residents plus we weren't expecting to be doing cpr on a woman & later dealing with her death.

hope RQIA do something. "

So do i. People love to pass the buck in most cases. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's disgusting the measly amount us carers get. I've been a full time carer for my elderly mother for 7.5 years after she had a massive stroke. We have to care 24/7. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't sleep at nights as I'm alway listening out for my mum if she needs me. The only restpite I get is my two hours a week to go into town to do the shopping. Some days I feel like I'm a doctor, a nurse, a carer, a physio therapist, cook, cleaner, mother to my mother. And that's all before I feel like I'm me. My day starts at 6/7 am and I finally sit down at about 9/10 am and asleep by 11 am. I do literally everything for my mother, from bed bathing her, feeding her to wiping her bottom. But I get tarred with the same brush as all these work shy people. I get told I only stay at home and look after mum because I'm lazy and want to claim all these benefits. Pfffftttt I challenge people to walk a mile in my shoes. It' woukd be far less stressful and easier to go out to work and earn a decent wage than do all I do for a meat £62 a week. And don't even get me on the support I should get, the support I'm suppose to get is utter crap, the adult care system has let me down so much and don't really support you, well not in the area I live in. I look after my mum because I love her deeply and because I'm repaying her for the many years she looked after me. But my good it is physical and emotionally demanding and draining. But I can understand why people choose not to care full time. The government preach on home they want more people to care for elderly disabled etc at home, well they need to shape up the systems. We deserve a lot more than they give us. Carers £62 a week , nursing home £700/£800 a week. No wonder the government want us to care for them ourselves look at the money we save them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carers are the unsung hero's of the community.....

They deserve all the financial, physical and emotional support they need .....

The system is broke and those who make the policy decisions seem completely detached from reality of the situations carers contend with 24/7.....

My heart goes out to carers.... "

Thanku

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I spent just over 3 years looking after my mum who died of cancer.When she died everything stopped I had no money for weeks. On the day of her funeral goverment services send someone round to remove the stair lift. Oh my favourite part was nearly 3 years later I got a letter from the Council offering me counselling.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it's disgusting the measly amount us carers get. I've been a full time carer for my elderly mother for 7.5 years after she had a massive stroke. We have to care 24/7. I don't know about the rest of you but I don't sleep at nights as I'm alway listening out for my mum if she needs me. The only restpite I get is my two hours a week to go into town to do the shopping. Some days I feel like I'm a doctor, a nurse, a carer, a physio therapist, cook, cleaner, mother to my mother. And that's all before I feel like I'm me. My day starts at 6/7 am and I finally sit down at about 9/10 am and asleep by 11 am. I do literally everything for my mother, from bed bathing her, feeding her to wiping her bottom. But I get tarred with the same brush as all these work shy people. I get told I only stay at home and look after mum because I'm lazy and want to claim all these benefits. Pfffftttt I challenge people to walk a mile in my shoes. It' woukd be far less stressful and easier to go out to work and earn a decent wage than do all I do for a meat £62 a week. And don't even get me on the support I should get, the support I'm suppose to get is utter crap, the adult care system has let me down so much and don't really support you, well not in the area I live in. I look after my mum because I love her deeply and because I'm repaying her for the many years she looked after me. But my good it is physical and emotionally demanding and draining. But I can understand why people choose not to care full time. The government preach on home they want more people to care for elderly disabled etc at home, well they need to shape up the systems. We deserve a lot more than they give us. Carers £62 a week , nursing home £700/£800 a week. No wonder the government want us to care for them ourselves look at the money we save them "
...Everything you say is absolutley true.And yes we do it as we love them .

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By *risrugbyfanMan
over a year ago

yate


"My neighbour is a carer for her son. She gets around £250 carers allowance , some income support and pip. Luckily her son gets the high rate so at least they have a car. She struggles with money has no social life but loves her lad dearly. A lovely lady doing a good job but just getting by. I recently bought a caravan and let them borrow it. Drive it to the coast for them and drove it back a week later. First holiday they had had in years. She cried with joy.

Carers should get a wage. They certainly deserve one."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Nobody understands just how hard it is.Every day is hard work,my poor mum cries as she hates what i have to do for her,and that breaks me,its as hard for her as it is for me. My brother is buying.me a wheel chair access car,so i can take her out ,and give her some quality of life,she sits in reclining chair 24 hours a day,as she cannot walk,from a very fit lady to a very disabled lady,but.still my mum.

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By *corpio67Man
over a year ago

hillingdon


"I think its an insult to give carers that look after elderly relatives or children an increase of 25 pence a week,being a carer is a 24 hour job,if they were put in homes it would cost thousands a week to keep them,if they dont have their own money or property to sell for their keep.Its not my fault i cant go back to work,my responsibilty is to my mother,as i refuse to put her in a home.Work out how much 62.82 per week is at an hourly rate.This country spends millions on other countries,about time they looked after their own."

12 billion a year on 3rd world countries and increased every year...

But their own can fend for themselves

POLITICS STINKS!

sorry about shouting but its a fact!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its totally against the law. We can't provide a proper service. Unfair on residents nor us. That death was final straw & i hve been in contact with RQIA this morn.

if its just you cant get the regular staff then why not get agency in to up the numbers to the required level - cqc are there for a reason "

Half the agency are crap, they don't know the routine. Most won't go outta there way to do extra. We did hve an agency worker lined up for Sat night & she went sick an hr before shift. Left us up shit creak literally

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

They get agency staff in that get paid more than their own staff,this is where the system is wrong,if they paid doctors and nurses a better wage,then maybe more would enrol to a career in nursing,and then they wouldnt have to rely on agency staff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carers allowance is pitiful "

I agree!

The whole system is messed up and needs to be looked at. Carers deserve much more.

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

25p a week, does the government think you deserve a freddo a week for your efforts. What a fucking disgrace, who comes up with these numbers

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

You aren't on your own contact social services or council they will help with this, I'm a full time community care worker for vulnerable adults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You aren't on your own contact social services or council they will help with this, I'm a full time community care worker for vulnerable adults."

That proves to be a waste of time if im honest as there just isnt the staff or services available and what they do offer makes it a waste of time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Please dont start me off about the council carers ,When my mum came out of hospital they came here for half an hour each morning..The wash they gave her was a lick and a promise,and she was covered in bed sores.I care for her and no sores and shes washed and showered a couple of times a day ,so the nurses they sent were no help at all.How can you get someone out of bed,wash them,dress them,all in half an hour,rubbish.

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over a year ago


"Please dont start me off about the council carers ,When my mum came out of hospital they came here for half an hour each morning..The wash they gave her was a lick and a promise,and she was covered in bed sores.I care for her and no sores and shes washed and showered a couple of times a day ,so the nurses they sent were no help at all.How can you get someone out of bed,wash them,dress them,all in half an hour,rubbish."

but dont blame the carers that do the job they are mostly on zero hours contracts then a shit hourly rate get shit mileage rates and then get told what they must do it the shortest time possible they get a worse deal than the home carers who look after one person all day ..the out in the community carers are treated the worse of all.... but then try a 40 bed care home with 5 or 6 carers on a shit wage doing a 12 hour shift of average 8 people per carer thats real work... no way id do it no way at all all the money in care is top heavy the workers get sod all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please dont start me off about the council carers ,When my mum came out of hospital they came here for half an hour each morning..The wash they gave her was a lick and a promise,and she was covered in bed sores.I care for her and no sores and shes washed and showered a couple of times a day ,so the nurses they sent were no help at all.How can you get someone out of bed,wash them,dress them,all in half an hour,rubbish.

but dont blame the carers that do the job they are mostly on zero hours contracts then a shit hourly rate get shit mileage rates and then get told what they must do it the shortest time possible they get a worse deal than the home carers who look after one person all day ..the out in the community carers are treated the worse of all.... but then try a 40 bed care home with 5 or 6 carers on a shit wage doing a 12 hour shift of average 8 people per carer thats real work... no way id do it no way at all all the money in care is top heavy the workers get sod all"

i gave up community mental health care as i was putting too much of myself in and couldnt switch off - no mileage paid and not paid for travel time in between and supposed to be at one place - ended up doing peoples shopping in my own time and taking it to them next day - where i am now i know they have 24 hour care and instead of having to chase around to make up my hours i just go in the 3 days - actually surprises me how there arent more 'accidents' with the amount of time we had to spend - we often had what was supposed to be a meds drop visit - min of 15 minutes - but help needed with dressing and breakfast - thinking about now makes me feel ill -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree that carers should recieve more money, however whete should that money come from ? People will say stop overseas aid or give politicians less etc but neither of those are likely to happen so where will this extra money come from ? Many people wont want to pay extra tax to cover it.

Im not saying carers shouldnt recieve more but seriously where should the extra money come from ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree that carers should recieve more money, however whete should that money come from ? People will say stop overseas aid or give politicians less etc but neither of those are likely to happen so where will this extra money come from ? Many people wont want to pay extra tax to cover it.

Im not saying carers shouldnt recieve more but seriously where should the extra money come from ?"

Where *

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The money should come from the goverment,that give away millions to other countries,charity begins at home,what about our old people,what about the homeless,children are going to school hungry as parents cant afford to feed them,what about our forgotten war heros,they can afford to make all these cuts in our forces,housing,and benefits,yet to give our money away,yes i paid into the system for 40 years,and worked dam hard in the Nhs,for what?.So the goverment can look after others and sod their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree that carers should recieve more money, however whete should that money come from ? People will say stop overseas aid or give politicians less etc but neither of those are likely to happen so where will this extra money come from ? Many people wont want to pay extra tax to cover it.

Im not saying carers shouldnt recieve more but seriously where should the extra money come from ?"

Maybe from the back of the same sofa they always find it in when their backs are to the wall!

Until people kick up a stink they feel they are ok.

And yes I heard that speech from Teresa May about the money tree...it's there when it suits!

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth


"I agree that carers should recieve more money, however whete should that money come from ? People will say stop overseas aid or give politicians less etc but neither of those are likely to happen so where will this extra money come from ? Many people wont want to pay extra tax to cover it.

Im not saying carers shouldnt recieve more but seriously where should the extra money come from ?"

Maybe Mrs May can find some in the same place she was able to find the extra money she promised in order to persuade the DUP to form a coalition government!

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

•+• Access Denied •+•

maybe capitalism isn't working?

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Please dont start me off about the council carers ,When my mum came out of hospital they came here for half an hour each morning..The wash they gave her was a lick and a promise,and she was covered in bed sores.I care for her and no sores and shes washed and showered a couple of times a day ,so the nurses they sent were no help at all.How can you get someone out of bed,wash them,dress them,all in half an hour,rubbish.

but dont blame the carers that do the job they are mostly on zero hours contracts then a shit hourly rate get shit mileage rates and then get told what they must do it the shortest time possible they get a worse deal than the home carers who look after one person all day ..the out in the community carers are treated the worse of all.... but then try a 40 bed care home with 5 or 6 carers on a shit wage doing a 12 hour shift of average 8 people per carer thats real work... no way id do it no way at all all the money in care is top heavy the workers get sod all"
not all care companies are bad I happen to work for a very good one and I'm proud of the job I do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have 3 kids all with disabilities so know exactly where you're coming from...I feel for you that must be so hard,,but they are yours and you care.But this goverment couldnt give a dam."

I wouldn't change it at all they're unique and our kids.

At the end of the day it is what is and you just carry on as usual looking after them whilst still trying to look after yourself physically and mentally. Can't change it so why moan.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I have a disabled child and it's expensive and hardwork.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I have a disabled child and it's expensive and hardwork. "
looking after him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The money should come from the goverment,that give away millions to other countries,charity begins at home,what about our old people,what about the homeless,children are going to school hungry as parents cant afford to feed them,what about our forgotten war heros,they can afford to make all these cuts in our forces,housing,and benefits,yet to give our money away,yes i paid into the system for 40 years,and worked dam hard in the Nhs,for what?.So the goverment can look after others and sod their own."

But realistically is that going to happen ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree that carers should recieve more money, however whete should that money come from ? People will say stop overseas aid or give politicians less etc but neither of those are likely to happen so where will this extra money come from ? Many people wont want to pay extra tax to cover it.

Im not saying carers shouldnt recieve more but seriously where should the extra money come from ?

Maybe from the back of the same sofa they always find it in when their backs are to the wall!

Until people kick up a stink they feel they are ok.

And yes I heard that speech from Teresa May about the money tree...it's there when it suits!"

People dont "kick up a stink" enough to make it happen though in general.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree that carers should recieve more money, however whete should that money come from ? People will say stop overseas aid or give politicians less etc but neither of those are likely to happen so where will this extra money come from ? Many people wont want to pay extra tax to cover it.

Im not saying carers shouldnt recieve more but seriously where should the extra money come from ?

Maybe Mrs May can find some in the same place she was able to find the extra money she promised in order to persuade the DUP to form a coalition government!"

But will she ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The money should come from the goverment,that give away millions to other countries,charity begins at home,what about our old people,what about the homeless,children are going to school hungry as parents cant afford to feed them,what about our forgotten war heros,they can afford to make all these cuts in our forces,housing,and benefits,yet to give our money away,yes i paid into the system for 40 years,and worked dam hard in the Nhs,for what?.So the goverment can look after others and sod their own."

Do you protest to the government about it ?

Did you protest about it before it affected your life ? If you did then clearly that had no effect.

If people dont like the way things are then do they bother to do anything about it ?

Grumbling on a forum (not just this one but any forum) doesnt have any effect really, unless people are proactive then nothing changes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The money should come from the goverment,that give away millions to other countries,charity begins at home,what about our old people,what about the homeless,children are going to school hungry as parents cant afford to feed them,what about our forgotten war heros,they can afford to make all these cuts in our forces,housing,and benefits,yet to give our money away,yes i paid into the system for 40 years,and worked dam hard in the Nhs,for what?.So the goverment can look after others and sod their own.

Do you protest to the government about it ?

Did you protest about it before it affected your life ? If you did then clearly that had no effect.

If people dont like the way things are then do they bother to do anything about it ?

Grumbling on a forum (not just this one but any forum) doesnt have any effect really, unless people are proactive then nothing changes."
....yes i have protested again and again,and not grumbling,just a debate,to.see what other members think.And most think the same as i do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The money should come from the goverment,that give away millions to other countries,charity begins at home,what about our old people,what about the homeless,children are going to school hungry as parents cant afford to feed them,what about our forgotten war heros,they can afford to make all these cuts in our forces,housing,and benefits,yet to give our money away,yes i paid into the system for 40 years,and worked dam hard in the Nhs,for what?.So the goverment can look after others and sod their own.

Do you protest to the government about it ?

Did you protest about it before it affected your life ? If you did then clearly that had no effect.

If people dont like the way things are then do they bother to do anything about it ?

Grumbling on a forum (not just this one but any forum) doesnt have any effect really, unless people are proactive then nothing changes.....yes i have protested again and again,and not grumbling,just a debate,to.see what other members think.And most think the same as i do. "

I agree that carers should be given more finacial help. I have already said that.

If you have protested then clearly it hasnt helped at all so maybe another form of protest is needed ?

Using energy to protest to the government is really the only way to change things. Use your vote wisely. Join and campaign with protest groups. Join and campaign with groups that help the elderly etc.

Social care and carers benefits need more money. The only realistic way to fund that is to pay more tax because overseas aid etc is unlikely to alter much. Extra tax will need to be paid by everyone, that includes people who dont use social care. Many people dont wish to have a bigger tax bill especially to fund something they arent using. It needs government to alter the tax system to fund better social care etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes i doubt people would not like a bigger tax bill.But everyone has parents,even the prime minister lol,and i should imagine most sons or daughters will care for their parents at some time or another.Or carers with sick.or disabled children,and i would imagine the public would rather a bigger bill for carers at home,that funding abroad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes i doubt people would not like a bigger tax bill.But everyone has parents,even the prime minister lol,and i should imagine most sons or daughters will care for their parents at some time or another.Or carers with sick.or disabled children,and i would imagine the public would rather a bigger bill for carers at home,that funding abroad."

Maybe but you need the government to do it ! It wont happen unless you have the government on the same side as you ! Hence you need to use your vote wisely. Plus campaign to get it sorted.

I speak as someone who worked for years in social care and someone who has a parent needing complete care but luckily able to fund it themselves (despite paying into the system also all their working lives they fund it themselves).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My mum can fund it herself to,but i want to care for her myself,as ive had carers in and had a couple of bad episodes in the past,and i am not saying all in caring are bad,as they are worth their weight in gold.This ammount of money carers get is what this goverment say we should get,i didnt ask for it,but was given it when i got in touch with the unemployment office,as i gave up my nursing career,you have to because of pensions etc,and as i had never claimed anything in my life,it was a shock to see just how much carers get.,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what exactly are you wanting then ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I want carers to be respected and.for this goverment to recognise that carers save the goverment money,by caring for our own at home,it would cost them thousands more to put them in care.Its a 24 hour.job giving the carer about 40pence an hour.And i came into the forum to find out others opinions thats all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want carers to be respected and.for this goverment to recognise that carers save the goverment money,by caring for our own at home,it would cost them thousands more to put them in care.Its a 24 hour.job giving the carer about 40pence an hour.And i came into the forum to find out others opinions thats all. "

Well said and the majority will agree with that statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think its an insult to give carers that look after elderly relatives or children an increase of 25 pence a week,being a carer is a 24 hour job,if they were put in homes it would cost thousands a week to keep them,if they dont have their own money or property to sell for their keep.Its not my fault i cant go back to work,my responsibilty is to my mother,as i refuse to put her in a home.Work out how much 62.82 per week is at an hourly rate.This country spends millions on other countries,about time they looked after their own.

True words passionately said OP

I think right now we have a chance to 'start again' and get our own house in order, (starting with agriculture) to become self reliant/sufficient/sustainable. Thus being able to create a fairer society and close the class divide a little.

Fuzz"

The current rules and regulations from Europe governing agriculture are at the moment draconian and virtualy crippling for many small family farms,made deliberately so in the knowledge that individual governments in most European countries would ignore most of them and somekind of a balance would ensure, think of the 70MPH motorway limit, how many cars do you see complying?

Not so this country, the rules are rigorously enforced to the letter and more regulaion required more beurocrats to do it

Now, after leaving the eu,you would expect the situation to improve right?

No,this government has signaled it's intent to make things even harder

So self sufficient? We have been capable of that for decades, politicians don't want that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want carers to be respected and.for this goverment to recognise that carers save the goverment money,by caring for our own at home,it would cost them thousands more to put them in care.Its a 24 hour.job giving the carer about 40pence an hour.And i came into the forum to find out others opinions thats all.

Well said and the majority will agree with that statement "

The majority probably do agree but the government dont care nor will they do anything about it !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's indefensible to be handing over millions of pounds overseas and having this situation in our own country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want carers to be respected and.for this goverment to recognise that carers save the goverment money,by caring for our own at home,it would cost them thousands more to put them in care.Its a 24 hour.job giving the carer about 40pence an hour.And i came into the forum to find out others opinions thats all. "

But we're not respected by the government and by people who don't understand what we do. They have no comprehension of the toll caring takes on you and the very real extra financial burden that it involves. We're not big enough in numbers for the government to take notice of. And for many of us we're grateful for what we do get that we don't want to rock the boat and lose it. X

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I want carers to be respected and.for this goverment to recognise that carers save the goverment money,by caring for our own at home,it would cost them thousands more to put them in care.Its a 24 hour.job giving the carer about 40pence an hour.And i came into the forum to find out others opinions thats all.

But we're not respected by the government and by people who don't understand what we do. They have no comprehension of the toll caring takes on you and the very real extra financial burden that it involves. We're not big enough in numbers for the government to take notice of. And for many of us we're grateful for what we do get that we don't want to rock the boat and lose it. X "
.,,yes very true .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I am all for helping other countries out with famine etc,but it was on the news we are to give Somalia 178 million.Your own people need help also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can two staff take care of 19 people each,thats a lot of work,even in hospitals there are at least six nurses to a bay of four beds ,thats wrong .

which hospital have you been in at nighttime? - i work in a severe dementia care home - most on a unit is 15 we have a nurse and 2 carers at night - daytime is different as we have a lot of one on ones and some two on ones - but these people have dols in place and are in cotted beds at night - "

They shouldn't be in cot beds with the sides up if they have dementia!!

It makes me so mad when you hear all the stories!

I'm so glad I work for an exceptionally decent company that trains, supports & looks after its staff!

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"I want carers to be respected and.for this goverment to recognise that carers save the goverment money,by caring for our own at home,it would cost them thousands more to put them in care.Its a 24 hour.job giving the carer about 40pence an hour.And i came into the forum to find out others opinions thats all.

But we're not respected by the government and by people who don't understand what we do. They have no comprehension of the toll caring takes on you and the very real extra financial burden that it involves. We're not big enough in numbers for the government to take notice of. And for many of us we're grateful for what we do get that we don't want to rock the boat and lose it. X "

For many of us we also don't have anything left to fight for what we deserve too. We are physically and mentally exhausted caring for our loved ones. We just don't have the time or energy to protest and make a stand for ourselves.

The lack of financial support from the government is just one small issue. For many of us it would make a massive difference if every so often we were asked "are you ok? Are you coping and do YOU need any support?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want carers to be respected and.for this goverment to recognise that carers save the goverment money,by caring for our own at home,it would cost them thousands more to put them in care.Its a 24 hour.job giving the carer about 40pence an hour.And i came into the forum to find out others opinions thats all.

But we're not respected by the government and by people who don't understand what we do. They have no comprehension of the toll caring takes on you and the very real extra financial burden that it involves. We're not big enough in numbers for the government to take notice of. And for many of us we're grateful for what we do get that we don't want to rock the boat and lose it. X

For many of us we also don't have anything left to fight for what we deserve too. We are physically and mentally exhausted caring for our loved ones. We just don't have the time or energy to protest and make a stand for ourselves.

The lack of financial support from the government is just one small issue. For many of us it would make a massive difference if every so often we were asked "are you ok? Are you coping and do YOU need any support?" "

That is very true, I was asked all those questions and more by the carers hub then there answer was oh we're here if you want to talk, but no actual physical help. X

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple
over a year ago

wirral

I have two children with additional needs. I get carers allowance. I'm lucky that I'm not struggling financially, but, I know there's those that do. It's an absolute disgrace. I used to be a carer... The agency I worked for did bloody well!

Makes me so angry when you get looked down on for not working, wether its due to caring or just wanting to be at home with your kids.

I heard a saying once

'the hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world's

It's not politicians and bankers running the world, it's the forgotten hero's, mum's, dad's, grandparents and carers.... The ones welding mops and brushes, the absolute bottom of the work pile... Not your managers and executives.

Anyway. Ranting

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple
over a year ago

wirral

*wielding

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Its got to the point where i have to sleep in the same room.as.my.mum as i cant leave her alone at night,i get three hours sleep at the most,i am woken up as she gets thirsty and i make her tea,or the tv is on as she cant sleep.I wash and dress her and see to any other personal needs.I,then get breakfast,and clean the house,do her washing,i am at hand all day long for her,then its doctors appointments,collecting medication,cooking her daily meals,trying to keep chatting.so she dosent become bored.Then its getting them ready for the night,undressing and washing her again,it upsets her so much.that i have to do all this.But as long as i have breath in my body i shall do all i can.And there are hundreds of carers who do the sane as i do.My mother is the greatest woman i have ever known.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My mum had a bedsore,and i called.in the district nurses,they came and said,yes thats fine,you know what youre doing,left me dressings and left lol.Would they have said the same if i wasnt a trained nurse.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have two children with additional needs. I get carers allowance. I'm lucky that I'm not struggling financially, but, I know there's those that do. It's an absolute disgrace. I used to be a carer... The agency I worked for did bloody well!

Makes me so angry when you get looked down on for not working, wether its due to caring or just wanting to be at home with your kids.

I heard a saying once

'the hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world's

It's not politicians and bankers running the world, it's the forgotten hero's, mum's, dad's, grandparents and carers.... The ones welding mops and brushes, the absolute bottom of the work pile... Not your managers and executives.

Anyway. Ranting"
...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"not all care companies are bad I happen to work for a very good one and I'm proud of the job I do"

never said all were bad but most are .. you can still be a good carer and work for a shit firm .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My mum had a bedsore,and i called.in the district nurses,they came and said,yes thats fine,you know what youre doing,left me dressings and left lol.Would they have said the same if i wasnt a trained nurse."

My mum had never had a bed sore in the 7.5 years I had been caring for her. Always got praised from the Drs and nurses etc for that. But was taken into hospital 3 months ago and what did she come home with, yes a bed sore. I was not amused.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think the government appreciates just how much money us carers save them. They need to come spend a week with a carer and just come and see what we do for the pittance they give us.

One day they've got to get old and their families will have to look after them, they might maybe think mmm when I was in office maybe I should have listened and given carers more money, but I doubt they will cause even when they get old they will still live a lavish lifestyle in a nice private care home.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My mum had a bedsore,and i called.in the district nurses,they came and said,yes thats fine,you know what youre doing,left me dressings and left lol.Would they have said the same if i wasnt a trained nurse....Th

My mum had never had a bed sore in the 7.5 years I had been caring for her. Always got praised from the Drs and nurses etc for that. But was taken into hospital 3 months ago and what did she come home with, yes a bed sore. I was not amused. "
...Thats what happened here,she came out of hospital with them.

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