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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Fab seems full of them at the mo..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab seems full of them at the mo.."

Tut tut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab is full of a lot of things

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!"

Absolutely. And don't they get angry when you point it out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!"

Maybe it's not that simple and mayb you shouldn't judge everyone without knowing the circumstances.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dont they just lol x

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!

Maybe it's not that simple and mayb you shouldn't judge everyone without knowing the circumstances. "

You're saying its OK for women aren't you?!

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London


"Fab is full of a lot of things"

Aye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!

Maybe it's not that simple and mayb you shouldn't judge everyone without knowing the circumstances.

You're saying its OK for women aren't you?! "

Who me? No I dnt think its right at all. But sometimes it's not a case of straight forward cheating. There are different reasons why people do it. Yes the platent ones who just are bored. The serial offenders. Then there are the ones who for no fault of their own find it necessary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm just a bigger knob than I possess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just a bigger knob than I possess "

Again who am I to judge anyone

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple
over a year ago

nr chester


"Fab seems full of them at the mo.."
. I wish your bloody wife would cheat with me Mrs blue eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just a bigger knob than I possess

Again who am I to judge anyone "

No idea but I'm glad you don't

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"Fab seems full of them at the mo.."

Troll

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab seems full of them at the mo..

Troll "

Who Clip Clop over my bridge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And that's just half of the couples accounts on here who publically declare they're so loved up and wouldn't play behind their partners back ...

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"And that's just half of the couples accounts on here who publically declare they're so loved up and wouldn't play behind their partners back ... "

Oh they don't have to be married Dan for that sort of thing have you ever heard of fab bed hoping politics its all back door dealing to keep it off the verify books .

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

We're not here to judge and don't need to know there personal background either. If you're a club goer I'd bet 90% of people have been with married people and never asked them their marital status before play either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And that's just half of the couples accounts on here who publically declare they're so loved up and wouldn't play behind their partners back ...

Oh they don't have to be married Dan for that sort of thing have you ever heard of fab bed hoping politics its all back door dealing to keep it off the verify books . "

it's like a soap opera on here innit!

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"And that's just half of the couples accounts on here who publically declare they're so loved up and wouldn't play behind their partners back ...

Oh they don't have to be married Dan for that sort of thing have you ever heard of fab bed hoping politics its all back door dealing to keep it off the verify books .

it's like a soap opera on here innit! "

Indeed it is a very very badly acted one makes east enders look like a Oscar contender

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh goody!!!! A thread about lil old me.

Crack on!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Married men make good fuck buddies, less demanding and more respectful than some single men. XXX

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

There is undoubtably an argument to say that a married person on here without their partner knowing is being more sensible than a regular cheater .

Why do I say this ?

Because this is nsa , and swingers are far less likely to form a bond , so the cheater is less likely to get caught or feel as guilty .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples "

I reckon the OP may just enjoy poking the nest with a stick, so to speak...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And that's just half of the couples accounts on here who publically declare they're so loved up and wouldn't play behind their partners back ... "

Definitely seen a rise in that, on forums and via messages.

As for the rest of us, the usual suspects.....yawn....it's been done to death, you must be bored or in need of a poo Clem to start a thread on this subject

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

...


"Married men make good fuck buddies, less demanding and more respectful than some single men. XXX"

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

...


"And that's just half of the couples accounts on here who publically declare they're so loved up and wouldn't play behind their partners back ...

Definitely seen a rise in that, on forums and via messages.

As for the rest of us, the usual suspects.....yawn....it's been done to death, you must be bored or in need of a poo Clem to start a thread on this subject "

Clem would never be in an antagonising mood surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples "

Exactly this, couldn't have put it better myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!

Maybe it's not that simple and mayb you shouldn't judge everyone without knowing the circumstances.

You're saying its OK for women aren't you?!

Who me? No I dnt think its right at all. But sometimes it's not a case of straight forward cheating. There are different reasons why people do it. Yes the platent ones who just are bored. The serial offenders. Then there are the ones who for no fault of their own find it necessary "

Of course its cheating otherwise they would message saying i have my wife's full blessing on this

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By *K430Man
over a year ago

Tipperary

And people are perfectly entitled to think that but surely if you feel that strongly , just ignore , or say no and move on , problem solved, and if you feel it needs to be said because they don't take rejection well, have you noticed that single guys take it any better. People can be on here for 100 different reasons, who am I judge any of them , it's a sex site not character critique.com??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The cheaters partner may make his life hell at home in so many different ways and it's the only way to stay sane.

There's always 2 sides to a story but I also agree that people do think the grass is greener when it clearly isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I guess im a lying cheating wife. Who hasn't had a relationship for 4 years with hubby and he refuses to sell. So hey flog me. Tie me to a stake and burn me. I will suffer my punishment Clem. Do your worst

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By *imonP23Man
over a year ago

Shepton Mallet

It's a common issue, I'm in a sexless marriage (with kids) my wife lost all interest in sex years ago. She told me to look elsewhere, but said that she doesn't want to know the details (and yes, we agreed that she should do the same if she wants to). It's a solution that is working for us.

Doesn't stop some people from making crass judgments, assuming I'm lying, assuming I must have been "doing it wrong", accusing me of not talking it over with her, etc etc etc. Men in my position have to learn to put up with a lot of that (or just stay quiet).

I can't help suspecting that some outspoken critics might be projecting their own insecurities, like vocal homophobes who then turn out to be gay. People should just learn to accept that relationships can be complicated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I guess im a lying cheating wife. Who hasn't had a relationship for 4 years with hubby and he refuses to sell. So hey flog me. Tie me to a stake and burn me. I will suffer my punishment Clem. Do your worst"

Well I was ok with flog you ...maybe even tying you to...well something...but burn you...way to far out there...maybe just some candle wax though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab is full of a lot of things"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is undoubtably an argument to say that a married person on here without their partner knowing is being more sensible than a regular cheater .

Why do I say this ?

Because this is nsa , and swingers are far less likely to form a bond , so the cheater is less likely to get caught or feel as guilty .

"

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By *c-ukMan
over a year ago

Sevenoaks

If I married a woman and she wouldn't cheat on me I'd kick her ass out

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

We don't (knowingly) meet men with partners, regardless of whether they know or not. It doesn't sit right with us.

We can't and don't know their personal situation so making a judgement would be wrong and flawed anyway.

We make a point of never justifying our motives or preferences where swinging is concerned and don't expect anyone else to. I personally think if married and playing alone people did that they'd get a lot less flak, if you genuinely think its nobody elses business don't make it so by discussing your reasons publicly.

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By *imonP23Man
over a year ago

Shepton Mallet

Of course, many non-swingers could point out that all married people on here (including swinging couples) are committing adultery, and they might be somewhat amused at the sight of adulterers criticising adulterers. How many swingers had the foresight to remove "forsaking all others" from their wedding vows?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Of course, many non-swingers could point out that all married people on here (including swinging couples) are committing adultery, and they might be somewhat amused at the sight of adulterers criticising adulterers. How many swingers had the foresight to remove "forsaking all others" from their wedding vows?

"

We got married in the registry office.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

never going to change

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it "

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner? "

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it "

Sexless marriages and relationships CAN work

There are hundreds of reasons why couples stay together

The key being that as long as both parties to the marriage are aware of the others extra marital activities and that they are open with each other

I know

I did it

For 17 years, 11 of them with an open understanding

It didn't end because of 'infidelities'

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing... "

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I am not married or cheating

I can be decent but I can be filthy and slutty as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Walks in, reads posts, walks back out

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold


"Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples

I reckon the OP may just enjoy poking the nest with a stick, so to speak... "

You think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless."

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold

When swingers are "supposed" to be more accepting about people's sexuality, needs and desires....

There's a lot who only see the world in black and white

So am I to preach about other people and their circumstances.?

I'll just keep to worrying about mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples

I reckon the OP may just enjoy poking the nest with a stick, so to speak...

You think? "

He's probably constipated and needs a long thread to keep him focused on squeezing it out.

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold


"Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples

I reckon the OP may just enjoy poking the nest with a stick, so to speak...

You think?

He's probably constipated and needs a long thread to keep him focused on squeezing it out. "

Are you implying he's full of shit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples

I reckon the OP may just enjoy poking the nest with a stick, so to speak...

You think?

He's probably constipated and needs a long thread to keep him focused on squeezing it out.

Are you implying he's full of shit? "

I didn't think of it that way

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses "

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Why does anyone care ?

It's their life choices, I just don't see why people feel the need to judge everyone.

If it's not a choice you're comfortable with then just avoid. Simples

I reckon the OP may just enjoy poking the nest with a stick, so to speak...

You think?

He's probably constipated and needs a long thread to keep him focused on squeezing it out. "

I think if I remember rightly, i was pissed obviously, that i was becoming increasingly annoyed with cheaters on here coming across all holier than thou on certain threads. Giving advice about swinging and telling everyone what character traits they have and look for in a partner, how they look for personality over looks, etc etc all that crap. When all the time they're cheating. I think that was it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right."

Men entitle the women to think they are on here and anywhere else tbh in my experience... but i think its wrong on both sides be it man or woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always find it odd how anyone dare stand on the morale high ground on here, when what ever we do on here would be seen as immorale by the vast majority of people on the outside. Sorry it just baffles me when i see sliding rule such as this its like ten people in a sinking ship and the one's at the top saying I am ok the boats not sinking where I am!

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"I always find it odd how anyone dare stand on the morale high ground on here, when what ever we do on here would be seen as immorale by the vast majority of people on the outside. Sorry it just baffles me when i see sliding rule such as this its like ten people in a sinking ship and the one's at the top saying I am ok the boats not sinking where I am! "

How honest and decent of you to say so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You normally find its the married guys that do all the defending of this shite on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You normally find its the married guys that do all the defending of this shite on here "

They don't have to defend themselves. If you don't want to meet someone don't message them, or tell them no thank you, if they message you. It's really quite simple.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"You normally find its the married guys that do all the defending of this shite on here "

They're cheating for genuine, honest reasons.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"You normally find its the married guys that do all the defending of this shite on here

They don't have to defend themselves. If you don't want to meet someone don't message them, or tell them no thank you, if they message you. It's really quite simple. "

They don't have to. It's more of a compulsion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I always find it odd how anyone dare stand on the morale high ground on here, when what ever we do on here would be seen as immorale by the vast majority of people on the outside. Sorry it just baffles me when i see sliding rule such as this its like ten people in a sinking ship and the one's at the top saying I am ok the boats not sinking where I am! "

It all boils down to consent. Take that consent away and it changes the way people view you. Some consent is given reluctantly, going by what we read on here, and some is forced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You normally find its the married guys that do all the defending of this shite on here

They don't have to defend themselves. If you don't want to meet someone don't message them, or tell them no thank you, if they message you. It's really quite simple.

They don't have to. It's more of a compulsion."

I wouldn't defend myself against anyone on here or not. If it doesn't affect them they can keep their sticky beaks out of my sex life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You normally find its the married guys that do all the defending of this shite on here

They're cheating for genuine, honest reasons."

If you use a different word other than cheating you may be able to say they are being genuine and honest, to themselves at least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just feel like ss if some people think their shit don't stink!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You normally find its the married guys that do all the defending of this shite on here

They don't have to defend themselves. If you don't want to meet someone don't message them, or tell them no thank you, if they message you. It's really quite simple.

They don't have to. It's more of a compulsion.

I wouldn't defend myself against anyone on here or not. If it doesn't affect them they can keep their sticky beaks out of my sex life. "

Married i take it ?

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over a year ago

I just feel like as if some people think their shit don't stink!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right."

one would almost begin to think that there are double standards..

or even that some will say anything to increase their chance of some rumpy pumpy..

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"I just feel like as if some people think their shit don't stink! "

Mine does. Ask my wife.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Married men make good fuck buddies, less demanding and more respectful than some single men. XXX"

A married man has no respect for his wife but has respect for some random fuck he's picked up on a sex site...okie dokie...If you say so!

Personally I could care less. I don't meet married men because I don't play nice. Hard to explain the whip marks to the wife.

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By *imonP23Man
over a year ago

Shepton Mallet

So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!

Maybe it's not that simple and mayb you shouldn't judge everyone without knowing the circumstances. "

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right.

one would almost begin to think that there are double standards..

or even that some will say anything to increase their chance of some rumpy pumpy..

"

Gladly i doubt that's often the case on fab. Do you model professionally by the way? If i met you id probably stop looking for anyone else...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I just feel like ss if some people think their shit don't stink! "

are you suggesting that because some are on here as a couple and their choice may be to not meet someone who is 'cheating' that they are not entitled to either have an opinion or have preferences whereby they don't meet such..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

"

Well if they cant be truthful to the ones they love or claim to love then .... yeah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well 2 out of 4 isn't bad....and it's not the second 2

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"We don't (knowingly) meet men with partners, regardless of whether they know or not. It doesn't sit right with us.

We can't and don't know their personal situation so making a judgement would be wrong and flawed anyway.

We make a point of never justifying our motives or preferences where swinging is concerned and don't expect anyone else to. I personally think if married and playing alone people did that they'd get a lot less flak, if you genuinely think its nobody elses business don't make it so by discussing your reasons publicly."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right.

one would almost begin to think that there are double standards..

or even that some will say anything to increase their chance of some rumpy pumpy..

Gladly i doubt that's often the case on fab. Do you model professionally by the way? If i met you id probably stop looking for anyone else..."

Maybe..

only matchstick models of interesting and unusual electricity pylons..

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

"

So you're saying people in this situation should educate their Ill-informed partners where exactly their marriage is failing? Good point.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I always find it odd how anyone dare stand on the morale high ground on here, when what ever we do on here would be seen as immorale by the vast majority of people on the outside. Sorry it just baffles me when i see sliding rule such as this its like ten people in a sinking ship and the one's at the top saying I am ok the boats not sinking where I am! "

Don't read the bareback threads!!!

The hypocrisy and double standards here is akin to Lewis Hamilton reprimanding Valentino Rossi for driving too fast!

It'll never change.

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By *imonP23Man
over a year ago

Shepton Mallet


"So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

Well if they cant be truthful to the ones they love or claim to love then .... yeah "

Did you miss the fact that I have her permission? Or do you just prefer to believe otherwise?

I get the impression that some men would discard their wives like an empty beer-can if they can't perform anymore, and think that this is the "manly" thing to do (even if there are kids involved).

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right.

Men entitle the women to think they are on here and anywhere else tbh in my experience... but i think its wrong on both sides be it man or woman "

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that people think the guy who cheats on his wife is 100% to blame and the wife is not at fault in any way.

Any relationship is the responsibility of everyone in it and if its going wrong somewhere they're both responsible to a greater or lesser degree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right.

Men entitle the women to think they are on here and anywhere else tbh in my experience... but i think its wrong on both sides be it man or woman

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that people think the guy who cheats on his wife is 100% to blame and the wife is not at fault in any way.

Any relationship is the responsibility of everyone in it and if its going wrong somewhere they're both responsible to a greater or lesser degree."

From one of my previous posts on this


"marriage is what it is you have to work at it both...."

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"The point is many swinging couples are doing it with the consent of there partners the loved ones...not just making up an excuse that i'm in a sexless marriage kind of bollocks or she doesn't understand me crap....if your marriage is that shite then get out of it

Is it always that easy?

If by cheating you're breaking vows if you married in church aren't you breaking vows by not having sex with your partner?

If its that bad then yes....if you have the consent of your partner the one you profess to love then the most then no....but i dont think its about that religious bollocks either tbh....its about doing the right thing...

But, and I'm just thinking out loud here really. If you go in to marriage with certain expectations eg fidelity and an ongoing sexual relationship regardless of religious bollocks shouldn't you realistically expect both those things to apply throughout the relationship. Why is withdrawing fidelity worse than withdrawing sex. I'm thinking this because nearly all people who are here without their partners knowledge say its because their relationship is sexless.

Yes they say it and its a bollocks its an excuse to cheat....surely if the wife or hubby withdrew from the sexual side of the marriage then there shouldn't be any qualms about seeking it out it would be given with the blessing of either partner....but most on here use it as an excuse ....marriage is what it is you have to work at it both....if its crap or that crap that you have to sneak about behind your other halfs back for your kicks then whats the point....i do know of a female friend on here along with a few more of this guys conquests that had a visit from the said wife...not a very nice experience her stood on the doorstep shouting out about fab and other stuff...and you know the sad thing...is the weak jelly livered guy gave his wife all the addresses

It's just interesting to me that it seems that men who cheat are perceived to be 100% in the wrong and the woman who's being cheated on 100% right.

Men entitle the women to think they are on here and anywhere else tbh in my experience... but i think its wrong on both sides be it man or woman

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that people think the guy who cheats on his wife is 100% to blame and the wife is not at fault in any way.

Any relationship is the responsibility of everyone in it and if its going wrong somewhere they're both responsible to a greater or lesser degree.

From one of my previous posts on this

marriage is what it is you have to work at it both...."

I was just pointing out that you'd misunderstood what I meant. I don't disagree with you on the working on it bit.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

Well if they cant be truthful to the ones they love or claim to love then .... yeah

Did you miss the fact that I have her permission? Or do you just prefer to believe otherwise?

"

So..... you're not cheating?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

Well if they cant be truthful to the ones they love or claim to love then .... yeah

Did you miss the fact that I have her permission? Or do you just prefer to believe otherwise?

I get the impression that some men would discard their wives like an empty beer-can if they can't perform anymore, and think that this is the "manly" thing to do (even if there are kids involved).

"

Do you not think that wives have a duty to have sex with their husbands? And vice versa?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The OP has a point.

I guess it's a little odd for the "genuine" swingers amongst the site to see "singles" providing advice and frowning at others activities given their situation.

Let's face It, people are just after sex, not necessarily the swinging lifestyle...whatever that truly is?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


" The OP has a point.

I guess it's a little odd for the "genuine" swingers amongst the site to see "singles" providing advice and frowning at others activities given their situation.

Let's face It, people are just after sex, not necessarily the swinging lifestyle...whatever that truly is? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" The OP has a point.

I guess it's a little odd for the "genuine" swingers amongst the site to see "singles" providing advice and frowning at others activities given their situation.

Let's face It, people are just after sex, not necessarily the swinging lifestyle...whatever that truly is? "

It boils down to sex. If there's no sex it's just socialising or naturism.

I've been married and was cheated on. I can still see other sides to stories of having sex with someone who isn't your partner, with or without consent.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I wonder where the line is when it's deemed ok to be married and cheating. Is a certain excuse more readily acceptable than another excuse/reason,it appears so.

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold


" The OP has a point.

I guess it's a little odd for the "genuine" swingers amongst the site to see "singles" providing advice and frowning at others activities given their situation.

Let's face It, people are just after sex, not necessarily the swinging lifestyle...whatever that truly is? "

Genuine and single.?

That's an oxymoron on fab

And you'll find that there are plenty of hypocrites and people all too willing to give "advice" when it's not been asked for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder where the line is when it's deemed ok to be married and cheating. Is a certain excuse more readily acceptable than another excuse/reason,it appears so."

I don't see them as excuses. Something pushed a person to look for sex elsewhere.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"I wonder where the line is when it's deemed ok to be married and cheating. Is a certain excuse more readily acceptable than another excuse/reason,it appears so."

Not so much a line, more of a penis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I guess im a lying cheating wife. Who hasn't had a relationship for 4 years with hubby and he refuses to sell. So hey flog me. Tie me to a stake and burn me. I will suffer my punishment Clem. Do your worst

Well I was ok with flog you ...maybe even tying you to...well something...but burn you...way to far out there...maybe just some candle wax though "

Yes I thought burnt at the stake was a bit harsh so yeah candle wax it is.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

Well if they cant be truthful to the ones they love or claim to love then .... yeah

Did you miss the fact that I have her permission? Or do you just prefer to believe otherwise?

I get the impression that some men would discard their wives like an empty beer-can if they can't perform anymore, and think that this is the "manly" thing to do (even if there are kids involved).

Do you not think that wives have a duty to have sex with their husbands? And vice versa? "

I don't think they do, no. I would hate to have a man have sex with me out of duty. I do think that people in committed relationships have a duty to communicate with each other, good or bad things and to try and reach a compromise on the bad stuff.

At its most basic if the terms of a relationship change then it falls to both partners to negotiate new terms. In my opinion its reasonable for sex to be one of the basic terms and fidelity another.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"I wonder where the line is when it's deemed ok to be married and cheating. Is a certain excuse more readily acceptable than another excuse/reason,it appears so.

I don't see them as excuses. Something pushed a person to look for sex elsewhere. "

Well reason/excuse it's all the same to me,the man/woman may just be a greedy b*stard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!"

So what if your stuck in a loveless marriage?

A marriage where your partner mentally and physically abuses you?

A marriage where you have tryed but his idea of a sex life is once every two years due to his own insecurities.

You've tryed speaking but you just get grunts back or a raised fist.

You can't leave just yet due to other circumstances.

I laugh at these judgements as you know nothing about the people your judging.Everyone has there own reasons.So maybe if people consentrate on there own life's instead of pouring scorn on everyone else's then the world wouldn't be so blind and judgemental.

You only get one life so live it and love it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So claiming to be in a sexless marriage is "bollocks" and "shite". Do you make a habit of accusing random strangers of being liars, just because the world doesn't work in quite the way you'd prefer?

Some of us answer back when we are attacked. And sometimes we try to educate the ill-informed.

Well if they cant be truthful to the ones they love or claim to love then .... yeah

Did you miss the fact that I have her permission? Or do you just prefer to believe otherwise?

I get the impression that some men would discard their wives like an empty beer-can if they can't perform anymore, and think that this is the "manly" thing to do (even if there are kids involved).

Do you not think that wives have a duty to have sex with their husbands? And vice versa?

I don't think they do, no. I would hate to have a man have sex with me out of duty. I do think that people in committed relationships have a duty to communicate with each other, good or bad things and to try and reach a compromise on the bad stuff.

At its most basic if the terms of a relationship change then it falls to both partners to negotiate new terms. In my opinion its reasonable for sex to be one of the basic terms and fidelity another."

Exactly why I wouldn't date anyone off here. Sex would probably be their main desire in life. I'm not what they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you cant play nice then you should be single not married we get loads of messages "can you meet im alone wife doesnt know" no fuck off treat your marriage better !!

So what if your stuck in a loveless marriage?

A marriage where your partner mentally and physically abuses you?

A marriage where you have tryed but his idea of a sex life is once every two years due to his own insecurities.

You've tryed speaking but you just get grunts back or a raised fist.

You can't leave just yet due to other circumstances.

I laugh at these judgements as you know nothing about the people your judging.Everyone has there own reasons.So maybe if people consentrate on there own life's instead of pouring scorn on everyone else's then the world wouldn't be so blind and judgemental.

You only get one life so live it and love it."

Hope you have a secret bank account escape fund. x

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