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"Sine qua non. Also lovely lips OP " Why thank you | |||
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"Kissing is the start of sex, the slow leading to fast and intense kiss is amazing. Hands in hair, starting those burning feelings and tingles ......oops I didn't realise I was typing - got carried away " Haha you feel free to get carried away | |||
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"It's a must before during and after for me " Definitely this, and spooning | |||
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"Kissing is one of my fave things so for me it's always a preference but not a deal breaker. It's mainly couples I've encountered with the no kissing rule and it's understandable that some prefer to keep that level of intimacy between them " | |||
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"It's like meeting a friend with no smiles Having a roast dinner with no potatoes It's all part of what makes sex complete and fulfilling. " Bacon and eggs Fish and Chips Morecambe and Wise It's all part of the combination | |||
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"This conversation keeps coming up amongst friends of mine and now appears in messages on my fab. So......kissing yes or no? Is it a pre cursor to sex or can you fuck without kissing? On the whole i can't. I couldn't meet someone not kiss them yet bump uglies... " My observation of these threads over the years is that almost all singles find kissing important/necessary. Understandable as, if we're genuinely single,it'll be our primary source of intimacy, passion etc! Couples tend to be split on the issue - some will/some won't. That's also understandable, as they already have a primary source of intimacy/passion - so may feel uncomfortable being as affectionate/intimate with others! Personally for me kissing is vital! I respect the decision of couples who choose not to kiss others, but I wouldn't meet them for sex! Xx | |||
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"This conversation keeps coming up amongst friends of mine and now appears in messages on my fab. So......kissing yes or no? Is it a pre cursor to sex or can you fuck without kissing? On the whole i can't. I couldn't meet someone not kiss them yet bump uglies... My observation of these threads over the years is that almost all singles find kissing important/necessary. Understandable as, if we're genuinely single,it'll be our primary source of intimacy, passion etc! Couples tend to be split on the issue - some will/some won't. That's also understandable, as they already have a primary source of intimacy/passion - so may feel uncomfortable being as affectionate/intimate with others! Personally for me kissing is vital! I respect the decision of couples who choose not to kiss others, but I wouldn't meet them for sex! Xx" Nice insight, thanks for sharing | |||
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"have to kiss - " in fact ive kissed some people that id like to go back and repeat and carry on with | |||
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"This conversation keeps coming up amongst friends of mine and now appears in messages on my fab. So......kissing yes or no? Is it a pre cursor to sex or can you fuck without kissing? On the whole i can't. I couldn't meet someone not kiss them yet bump uglies... " I do not kiss meets. Before i met my partner I didn't kiss full stop.. its rare it causes an issue although it seems its the one preference subject to judgement and even ridicule. So yup.. I can 100% fuck without kissing and find it very awkward if someone wants to kiss me and now will refuse. But 99.9% of the time its not an issue. Btw love kissing Mr x | |||
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"No kissing accompanied by Robin Beck singing in the background then no sex " Forgot to mention it has to be kissing to the ground too | |||
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"This conversation keeps coming up amongst friends of mine and now appears in messages on my fab. So......kissing yes or no? Is it a pre cursor to sex or can you fuck without kissing? On the whole i can't. I couldn't meet someone not kiss them yet bump uglies... " I like kissing and have no issue kissing others but it's not essential. Same goes for Mr B. So yes, we can fuck others without kissing, if its off limits for them. We've found its been more single men with this rule than couples. It's not a deal breaker for us. | |||
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"This conversation keeps coming up amongst friends of mine and now appears in messages on my fab. So......kissing yes or no? Is it a pre cursor to sex or can you fuck without kissing? On the whole i can't. I couldn't meet someone not kiss them yet bump uglies... I do not kiss meets. Before i met my partner I didn't kiss full stop.. its rare it causes an issue although it seems its the one preference subject to judgement and even ridicule. So yup.. I can 100% fuck without kissing and find it very awkward if someone wants to kiss me and now will refuse. But 99.9% of the time its not an issue. Btw love kissing Mr x" | |||
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"We are very broadminded and have few limits but kissing remains our thing and won't share that . " | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed." I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho " Ok may be ridiculed is too strong, but certainly made to feel different, odd, strange because we don't conform to the norm. Not nice is it ? | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho " The word "bizarre" is a little judgemental. | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho Ok may be ridiculed is too strong, but certainly made to feel different, odd, strange because we don't conform to the norm. Not nice is it ? " It's your choice, and that should be respected. | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho The word "bizarre" is a little judgemental. " | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho Ok may be ridiculed is too strong, but certainly made to feel different, odd, strange because we don't conform to the norm. Not nice is it ? " Aside from remarks that may make you feel different , the fact is that your preference is in the minority . That alone will perhaps make you feel strange or odd , particularly as it's over 90% who say that kissing is an important part of a meet . You may feel that as you are in the minority that you have to justify your position . You don't ! its your choice and as with anything in life , you'll feel downtrodden for being different . We sometimes feel we have to justify ourselves on the forums as we meet more regularly than most . But some time ago we realised that the opinion of others isn't what we seek . Nor validation , or anything else . Swinging , and what we all do to express our desires will inevitably be different for everyone . But above all it should be fun . Enjoy what you do and don't let anything anyone says get you down | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho The word "bizarre" is a little judgemental. " That's my opinion not in any way a judgement of others. Some ppl find brown sauce on a hot dog bizarre | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho Ok may be ridiculed is too strong, but certainly made to feel different, odd, strange because we don't conform to the norm. Not nice is it ? " No one i merely asked the question as to others opinion on kissing. You didn't have to comment that you do not participate in kissing nor has anyone given you a hard time over it. As i keep reiterating to each their own | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho " It's about intimacy. Different people have different signs of intimacy. You may equate sex and kissing as the same, were as others would equate sex as a carnal bit of entertainment, were as kissing is reserved for those who they have romantic or fraternal feelings for. Its no more or less bizarre than your own internal unique thought processes. | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho Ok may be ridiculed is too strong, but certainly made to feel different, odd, strange because we don't conform to the norm. Not nice is it ? " This.... i have been picked fun at when at a party for my preference... the oh how is it more personal... well kissing ia perhaps the most intimate part of sex... Not even sure Mr understands although as he knows my reasons for never having done it in the past even in relationships... maybe he has a better idea... But you get the whole its akin to a working girl.. its robotic and such other comments.. which are in a manner ridiculing those that dont want to kiss.... or simply shock horror.. don't like it... Everyone accepts that people may not want to do facials or anal... but have a no kissing preference and your practically called a freak.. in fact i have been told just that at a party. | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho It's about intimacy. Different people have different signs of intimacy. You may equate sex and kissing as the same, were as others would equate sex as a carnal bit of entertainment, were as kissing is reserved for those who they have romantic or fraternal feelings for. Its no more or less bizarre than your own internal unique thought processes. " Spot on. | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho Ok may be ridiculed is too strong, but certainly made to feel different, odd, strange because we don't conform to the norm. Not nice is it ? This.... i have been picked fun at when at a party for my preference... the oh how is it more personal... well kissing ia perhaps the most intimate part of sex... Not even sure Mr understands although as he knows my reasons for never having done it in the past even in relationships... maybe he has a better idea... But you get the whole its akin to a working girl.. its robotic and such other comments.. which are in a manner ridiculing those that dont want to kiss.... or simply shock horror.. don't like it... Everyone accepts that people may not want to do facials or anal... but have a no kissing preference and your practically called a freak.. in fact i have been told just that at a party. " Yep totally agree with your observations but the people making the comments can't or won't see it that way. | |||
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"No way love kissing " honey rose definitely needs kissing | |||
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"Sex without kissing is cold and passionless, robotic even. As you can tell, I love kissing " Totally agree, i spent 3 yrs with a fb that didn't want any kissing as he believed it would be classed as cheating on his wife lol The sex was ok but mainly cuz i have a very good imagination and im horny as hell all the time!! After meeting my new playmate 5 yrs ago I don't think i could ever have sex again without kissing it's so cold and impersonal A x | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx" Primarily I agree with your above post and I'm not too ashamed to say that I started on this site as a non kisser. (Because I didn't KNOW if it would be hard for me to see my partner kiss someone else or for him to see me kiss someone else) I didn't want to be that person/couple that had loads of boundaries and that caused other people to feel uncomfortable. We agreed that we would meet other people/ another person and just be really honest with them about our situation. The first couple we met were a soft swing/ new to the scene/ still a bit unsure of things type of couple. Lovely people but in a position similar to us. We were very fortunate to meet them. We realised immediately that it actually wasn't a big deal for us and left feeling totally ok with ourselves and having destroyed our concerns. We had agreed that if we couldn't kiss and it was an issue that we would walk away from the site because clearly it wouldn't have been the right thing for us if it was going to cause issues in our relationship. I don't have an issue with not kissing if people have a honest and genuine reason for it. The person I *didnt* kiss on initial meeting had a perfectly reasonable explanation for me. That person was married, and openly so. And as a couple they felt that kissing was more involved in feelings and emotions than sex, the person I slept with didn't want to betray their partner and I respect that. We had multiple conversations about kissing between us not kissing and kissing and when it happened I knew it wasn't anything that was attached to emotions. It was purely a sexual urge and not a "omg now I have feelings for you" situation. Again I'm not saying this would work for everyone, but im very fortunate to have open and honest conversations with the people I meet. | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx" Following on from this it seems that you could make the same judgement for those only interested in soft swap ? | |||
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"It's something we keep for ourselves. We would turn down a meet who insisted on it. Our preference. Shame a preference has to be ridiculed. I'm not ridiculing anyone. Merely asking as it keeps coming up. I find it bizarre that someone would want to be naked and have sex with someone else without kissing. Dont see how their dick in your mouth is any less personal than a tongue. Each to their own tho Ok may be ridiculed is too strong, but certainly made to feel different, odd, strange because we don't conform to the norm. Not nice is it ? This.... i have been picked fun at when at a party for my preference... the oh how is it more personal... well kissing ia perhaps the most intimate part of sex... Not even sure Mr understands although as he knows my reasons for never having done it in the past even in relationships... maybe he has a better idea... But you get the whole its akin to a working girl.. its robotic and such other comments.. which are in a manner ridiculing those that dont want to kiss.... or simply shock horror.. don't like it... Everyone accepts that people may not want to do facials or anal... but have a no kissing preference and your practically called a freak.. in fact i have been told just that at a party. " I agree that it's a bit harsh to say "it's robotic" and the same as being a "working girl" given that people saying these things are people who have never done it. I personally didn't feel that way when I had sex without kissing. | |||
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"I wouldn't meet anyone that didn't kiss. Sex without kissing must be cold, clinical and passionless.....thats not going to get my fanny fluttering " Totally this... the flutters start with just the talk and anticipation of the kisses... anything and everything else that follows happens from the kisses... ALL the kisses! | |||
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"I wouldn't meet anyone that didn't kiss. Sex without kissing must be cold, clinical and passionless.....thats not going to get my fanny fluttering Totally this... the flutters start with just the talk and anticipation of the kisses... anything and everything else that follows happens from the kisses... ALL the kisses! " | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx" mines to do with the fact I dont feel comfortable.... it makes me feel squeamish.. unsexy and panicked... why....well id get a ban if I said why... but let's say it was something that meant until my current partner I never shared intimacy with anyone... it was always just sex. No one needs to jusitfy anything.. I didn't kiss as a single... so no jealousy or issues there and I am more than happy for Mr to kiss.. thing is there is no reason for anyone to understand it anymore than its a preference... I am anything but cold and clinical.. I can be alluring and ignite passion in a group.. but I dont need to kiss to do so.. Ive done this longer than many... and as I have said many times. I can count on one hand the amount of times ive had to stop someone trying to kiss me. So while those that dont kiss are berated and treated like some weird leppers with jealousy issues on the forums. In actual real-life.. it seems to matter not. | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xxmines to do with the fact I dont feel comfortable.... it makes me feel squeamish.. unsexy and panicked... why....well id get a ban if I said why... but let's say it was something that meant until my current partner I never shared intimacy with anyone... it was always just sex. No one needs to jusitfy anything.. I didn't kiss as a single... so no jealousy or issues there and I am more than happy for Mr to kiss.. thing is there is no reason for anyone to understand it anymore than its a preference... I am anything but cold and clinical.. I can be alluring and ignite passion in a group.. but I dont need to kiss to do so.. Ive done this longer than many... and as I have said many times. I can count on one hand the amount of times ive had to stop someone trying to kiss me. So while those that dont kiss are berated and treated like some weird leppers with jealousy issues on the forums. In actual real-life.. it seems to matter not. " I wish I could *like* this post. Would anyone judge someone if they didn't like anal? Or didn't like role play? Or didn't like bondage? Judgements should not be welcome here. | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xxmines to do with the fact I dont feel comfortable.... it makes me feel squeamish.. unsexy and panicked... why....well id get a ban if I said why... but let's say it was something that meant until my current partner I never shared intimacy with anyone... it was always just sex. No one needs to jusitfy anything.. I didn't kiss as a single... so no jealousy or issues there and I am more than happy for Mr to kiss.. thing is there is no reason for anyone to understand it anymore than its a preference... I am anything but cold and clinical.. I can be alluring and ignite passion in a group.. but I dont need to kiss to do so.. Ive done this longer than many... and as I have said many times. I can count on one hand the amount of times ive had to stop someone trying to kiss me. So while those that dont kiss are berated and treated like some weird leppers with jealousy issues on the forums. In actual real-life.. it seems to matter not. " Why do people THINK they know the right answer...there isn't one! Each to their own...and although the "non" kiss camp(of which I am one) is clearly in the minority, so what! Doesn't make it "wrong"! | |||
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" Ive done this longer than many... and as I have said many times. I can count on one hand the amount of times ive had to stop someone trying to kiss me. So while those that dont kiss are berated and treated like some weird leppers with jealousy issues on the forums. In actual real-life.. it seems to matter not. I wish I could *like* this post. Would anyone judge someone if they didn't like anal? Or didn't like role play? Or didn't like bondage? Judgements should not be welcome here." I agree judgement shouldn't be welcome but for some reason it's acceptable to unfavourable judge people who prefer not to kiss. Yet it's rare to find a non kisser pointing the finger at kisses for being different to them... | |||
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"I very much like kissing when having sex as it allows you and the person/persons you are with a gage and feel each others passion making the experience all the stronger. This said I understand if people don't want to kiss because it is so intimate, after all I can see if people aren't in the right head space the wrong things could be felt and either people are lead on or some partners become suspicious and couples can have issue in relationships. And I can have sex without kissing, though certainly prefer doing so." See this attitude doesn't help... for me it's nothing to do with fear of feelings... I do not like intimacy with someone I dont trust implicitly which isnt going to be with a meet | |||
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"I very much like kissing when having sex as it allows you and the person/persons you are with a gage and feel each others passion making the experience all the stronger. This said I understand if people don't want to kiss because it is so intimate, after all I can see if people aren't in the right head space the wrong things could be felt and either people are lead on or some partners become suspicious and couples can have issue in relationships. And I can have sex without kissing, though certainly prefer doing so." Why is intimacy necessary in casual sex? What if it's as simple as a person just doesn't like kissing? | |||
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" Ive done this longer than many... and as I have said many times. I can count on one hand the amount of times ive had to stop someone trying to kiss me. So while those that dont kiss are berated and treated like some weird leppers with jealousy issues on the forums. In actual real-life.. it seems to matter not. I wish I could *like* this post. Would anyone judge someone if they didn't like anal? Or didn't like role play? Or didn't like bondage? Judgements should not be welcome here. I agree judgement shouldn't be welcome but for some reason it's acceptable to unfavourable judge people who prefer not to kiss. Yet it's rare to find a non kisser pointing the finger at kisses for being different to them... " | |||
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"I very much like kissing when having sex as it allows you and the person/persons you are with a gage and feel each others passion making the experience all the stronger. This said I understand if people don't want to kiss because it is so intimate, after all I can see if people aren't in the right head space the wrong things could be felt and either people are lead on or some partners become suspicious and couples can have issue in relationships. And I can have sex without kissing, though certainly prefer doing so. Why is intimacy necessary in casual sex? What if it's as simple as a person just doesn't like kissing?" I don't find it necessary by any means but I can enjoy the sex more. Also I understand some people don't like kissing. Again I understand there can be a variety of reason people have preferences either for only kissing or not at all. Personally I prefer kissing but don't have too. | |||
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"I very much like kissing when having sex as it allows you and the person/persons you are with a gage and feel each others passion making the experience all the stronger. This said I understand if people don't want to kiss because it is so intimate, after all I can see if people aren't in the right head space the wrong things could be felt and either people are lead on or some partners become suspicious and couples can have issue in relationships. And I can have sex without kissing, though certainly prefer doing so. See this attitude doesn't help... for me it's nothing to do with fear of feelings... I do not like intimacy with someone I dont trust implicitly which isnt going to be with a meet " If we didn't trust our meets implicitly we wouldn't play with them.... The non kissing issue does get a bad wrap but let's be honest, most of us kiss our kids, grandmother etc | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx" Sorry but what the fuck who died and made you guys lord of the swingers. Do we all need to doff our caps and submit our swinging credentials to you. Non kissers don't get up tight, but there are some kissers out there who post utter crap. People post their reasons the fact you don't accept that as the truth is your issue. Pushing your own assumptions on to them is akin to people who don't swing assuming all swingers are sad lonely people who have self confidence issues and are unable to have deep meaningful relationships with anyone. | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx Sorry but what the fuck who died and made you guys lord of the swingers. Do we all need to doff our caps and submit our swinging credentials to you. Non kissers don't get up tight, but there are some kissers out there who post utter crap. People post their reasons the fact you don't accept that as the truth is your issue. Pushing your own assumptions on to them is akin to people who don't swing assuming all swingers are sad lonely people who have self confidence issues and are unable to have deep meaningful relationships with anyone. " | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx" You have some dreadful issues. You're always trying to shift the blame onto other people. If I don't kiss it's because I don't want to. Who will I get jealous of or have a row with? Your 'theory' may be true in some cases but not all. | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx You have some dreadful issues. You're always trying to shift the blame onto other people. If I don't kiss it's because I don't want to. Who will I get jealous of or have a row with? Your 'theory' may be true in some cases but not all. " We never said all did we? It's plain when we said about having a row we were referring to couples, we guess our point is proven by the vitriol appearing on the thread now aimed at us and backs up our point that the no kissing/kissing numerous threads never reveal the truth | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx You have some dreadful issues. You're always trying to shift the blame onto other people. If I don't kiss it's because I don't want to. Who will I get jealous of or have a row with? Your 'theory' may be true in some cases but not all. We never said all did we? It's plain when we said about having a row we were referring to couples, we guess our point is proven by the vitriol appearing on the thread now aimed at us and backs up our point that the no kissing/kissing numerous threads never reveal the truth" You like to ignore the fact that ive posted several times why. I dont like kissing people i dont have trust in. Trust takes a lot to give... I also wont kiss someone I have no connection too... so nsa meets are not going to be kissed. Its personally very hard for me to enjoy intimacy with someone and always will be. Sex on the other hand I enjoy as long as its my way. 121 sex isnt something im on fab for.. Although Ive found with my partner it is better than any group experience but with others 3sums and more sums are what Im looking for. Not kissing is just a preference same as not wanting anal or oral etc | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx You have some dreadful issues. You're always trying to shift the blame onto other people. If I don't kiss it's because I don't want to. Who will I get jealous of or have a row with? Your 'theory' may be true in some cases but not all. We never said all did we? It's plain when we said about having a row we were referring to couples, we guess our point is proven by the vitriol appearing on the thread now aimed at us and backs up our point that the no kissing/kissing numerous threads never reveal the truth" Nope proven nothing. This is very similar to when someone say so and so has a negative personality, they respond no I don't and QED you say your point is proven. Posting your own assumptions as the truth behind someone else's preferences is never a great starting point. If you can't accept someone else's reasons that's more an issue for you. It does not invalidate their reasons. | |||
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"I said further up thread that my preference is to kiss and that personally I found it odd the one time we played with a couple that didn't kiss. That said, I wouldn't dream of saying some of the frankly rude and insulting things that have been said above about people that don't kiss - most of them assumptions based on absolutely nothing other than a lack of understanding or willingness to try and understand. If someone doesn't want to kiss, surely that's their right just as it's their right not to have anal, or not to do full swap, or not to have sex unless they are wearing a pair of marigolds!! Respect the preference rather than belittling it - sure try and understand it and when an explanation is given (as it has been several times throughout this thread) then accept it without question." Thank you. | |||
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"Kissing is a must for us The kiss/no kiss issue is raised fairly regularly on here, the no kissers get uptight generally and here is why.... No kissers generally have a reason for not kissing which is not conducive to swinging, namely fear of intimacy, jealousy issues, past problems etc etc They will always fob it off with, well some people don't like anal etc, like they equate to the same thing! The reality is you are never going to know the real reason for not kissing and as such these people are avoided by us and arguing with them in the forums will never enlighten you as we've never seen a true reason So go on non kissers fess up let's hear someone say "we don't kiss because we will get jealous and probably have a row" Not likely is it? Xx Sorry but what the fuck who died and made you guys lord of the swingers. Do we all need to doff our caps and submit our swinging credentials to you. Non kissers don't get up tight, but there are some kissers out there who post utter crap. People post their reasons the fact you don't accept that as the truth is your issue. Pushing your own assumptions on to them is akin to people who don't swing assuming all swingers are sad lonely people who have self confidence issues and are unable to have deep meaningful relationships with anyone. " | |||
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"I said further up thread that my preference is to kiss and that personally I found it odd the one time we played with a couple that didn't kiss. That said, I wouldn't dream of saying some of the frankly rude and insulting things that have been said above about people that don't kiss - most of them assumptions based on absolutely nothing other than a lack of understanding or willingness to try and understand. If someone doesn't want to kiss, surely that's their right just as it's their right not to have anal, or not to do full swap, or not to have sex unless they are wearing a pair of marigolds!! Respect the preference rather than belittling it - sure try and understand it and when an explanation is given (as it has been several times throughout this thread) then accept it without question." well said | |||
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"Reading this thread I don't think people have judged. Yes this is a thread where people have banged on about how important kissing is to them. Some have questioned why people don't kiss, and may have put forward their conclusions as to why people make these choices. No doubt there are a whole range of reasons in reality. We all know it's personal choice, we all know it's a preference. But it's interesting to discuss why people make certain choices. Mrs" I'm fine with stating preferences. We love kissing. But I also accept you can swing and not want to share all your sexuality with other people. Some people keep kissing to their own partners, others keep whips and chains. I don't expect them to be the same with me as they are with their life partner. We are not sharing a everything when swinging, just fun times. | |||
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" Sex without kissing So......kissing yes or no? " Has to be kissing, passionate kissing, soft gentle kisses. Lots of kisses | |||
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