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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Upper class, middle class working class, I've even heard the term 'underclass'. What does it all mean to you?

In the early part of the last century it was generally accepted that you were born into your 'class' and remained in it to the grave.

How far have we progressed?

Should a modern society still label people along the lines of class, or in the real world is that just inevitable?

Are people today less willing to accept their 'impossed' class and therefore their lot in life?

(This is not a thread focussed on the riots).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I think there are only 2 classes of people - those who understand the term and try to live by it, and those who don't.

But if I were to categorise, I would say ther is an upper-class, middle-class, working-class, and benefits-class. The ones at the upper and lower ends seem to be the best off.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

I for one dont like a class system, yes there are many people who in monetry terms are better of than me, have nicer houses, cars, jobs ect. What i value more is having a loving and close knit family. We hadnt a pot to piss in growing up, but hubby and myself have worked hard for where we are today, we still dont have alot but what we have we worked for. Our 2 daughters never went without and where brought up knowing the vaules of what family mean and if they want anything they have to work for it. (this may have went off on a tangent a little)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so i'm less of a person because i receive benefits and help from the government?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so i'm less of a person because i receive benefits and help from the government? "

No you're equal to everyone else, nobody is different from anyone else, we're all the same colour, all the same religion and we all love lollipops. We're also all equally intelligent and all deserve exactly the same pay, no matter how difficult or easy our jobs may be - nobody should have to work and we should all live equally and happily on benefits.

Ok?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its more to do with intelegence these days and the desire to get an education. Some work hard and do others do not ane expect society to feed them. Work hard, take education seriously and you will get rewarded.

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

I don't really place people in class,do we really do that now?

I believe that its more about your values and your aspirations that make you as person

I would'nt want to be placed in any class,in the traditional term I would be seen as working class I suppose,but I don't see a need to place a label on someone in this day and age according to what they were born into

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess in part its down to how you perceive the word “Class”,,,, You can use it as in the word Class term to describe a collective group of individuals from any background, who will each have some amount of flexibility to determine their own futures by exploring the extent of their own limits and aspirations should they wish too!

Or do you use the word Class to describe token values, where status is sought by meeting preordained criteria which sometimes seem overly important to those people who wish to clamber up some greasy pole of social standing and look down……..

Being happy and content with who you are in whatever social group others would place you,,,, is Top Class!!!....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eton rules us...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To the OP... it means very little to me, I prefer to make my decisions about people based on their actions.

I have worked for royalty and in a car parts factory over the years and have found that it is virtually impossible to pre judge people by their class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a class system everywhere, here it simply seems more mapped out. Upper, Middle and Lower are the accepted classes but they changed the word lower for working many many years ago as it was less insulting.

Now though as the 'working/lower' classes aspire to be middle class, and own their own houses, a new underclass has developed - the benefits or Jeremy Kyle class. Sad but true.

What happens when this country manages to develop a class even lower than the benefit scroungers. To anyone on benefits who genuinely needs them, i dont mean YOU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was watching a youtube of billy conolly and the guy has im sure mixed with all classes and he was on about it...

He says that whilst staying with some seriously rich folk , they frequented the local pub and had a great time until the "middle classes" thought THEY were much better than the working class in the pub.

He says those born into money and those who have nowt...seem to go together a little better than those who think they have money and yet are in debt up their eyeballs trying to make an impression,

I reckon he maybe right

I hate inverted snobbery and those who think that because they have a flash car and nicer house, that they are somehow better than anyone else.

Nope...just got bigger heads and more debt than me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and whilst working in brum in a management training centre many moons ago...I met several toffs...one was a lord george brown. and he was the most annoying jumped up pretentious snob its ever been my misfortune to meet. a horrid man,.

Yet the main man , also a lord but who had worked himself up through the ranks and earned his stripes, was an absolute gem .

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"I was watching a youtube of billy conolly and the guy has im sure mixed with all classes and he was on about it...

He says that whilst staying with some seriously rich folk , they frequented the local pub and had a great time until the "middle classes" thought THEY were much better than the working class in the pub.

He says those born into money and those who have nowt...seem to go together a little better than those who think they have money and yet are in debt up their eyeballs trying to make an impression,

I reckon he maybe right

I hate inverted snobbery and those who think that because they have a flash car and nicer house, that they are somehow better than anyone else.

Nope...just got bigger heads and more debt than me "

Actually peaches i couldnt agree more. If you go into a nice restaurant, its the ones that think they are something that click there fingers and are rude to the waiters. Also those that are in debt up to their eyeballs to be seen as having a better life style.

There is not a class system as such today, if you go by monitary means many "working class" people are on middle class wages.

The only time i use the class system is when im comparing myself and Jay. Nothing to do with money but the fact that we are worlds apart. He was brought up with staff and had only ever used silver cutlery until he went to his first private school.

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

I suppose it depends on which country you are talking about. The class system in the UK is very different to that of India for instance.

I think over the last 50 or so years class has changed and is less about social standing and more about wealth. A slight shift you would think but it has had a massive impact and created things like sub classes. The one good thing I suppose is no one is ever stuck in a class you can literally buy your way out.

For instance I used to be middle class but have now transcended even upper class to become a Class A Twat.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

I was born working class, proud of it, and no matter how hard i've worked and prospered, i shall remain working class until the day i die.

I do suspect a lot of people put themselves one class above reality.

And on the matter of "getting an education" i do feel sorry for a generation that are shortly to find they have been greatly misled.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"so i'm less of a person because i receive benefits and help from the government?

No you're equal to everyone else, nobody is different from anyone else, we're all the same colour, all the same religion and we all love lollipops. We're also all equally intelligent and all deserve exactly the same pay, no matter how difficult or easy our jobs may be - nobody should have to work and we should all live equally and happily on benefits.

Ok?

"

Maybe by accident, but did you forget to add that we all have the right to be equally great parents?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

The class system in Britain has always had an element of fluitidity which has meant there have always been apologists for it.

"See i married a prince,anyone can do it" says multi millionare kate middleton.

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles… Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstruction of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.... The modern bourgeois society that has sprouted from the ruins of feudal society has not done away with class antagonisms. It has but established new classes, new conditions of oppression, new forms of struggle in place of the old ones. Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinctive feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other: Bourgeoisie and Proletariat.” – Communist Manifesto

Works for me

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

The new class in Britain is the Pound...

It's been slowly getting that way since the early 80's, the Pound opens doors that it could never once breach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The new class in Britain is the Pound...

It's been slowly getting that way since the early 80's, the Pound opens doors that it could never once breach."

Meritocracy for the win.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Don't know much about history and class warfare but wasn't it the frencg bourgoisie who invented "le swinging", they seemed to shag around a lot.

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