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"£400 per month is decent enough to let you have some luxuries, if you have dependents then more than that obviously. anything less is probably not worth getting out of bed for." Did you mean a week? Not many luxuries I would have thought for less then a £100 pw | |||
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"£400 per month is decent enough to let you have some luxuries, if you have dependents then more than that obviously. anything less is probably not worth getting out of bed for. Did you mean a week? Not many luxuries I would have thought for less then a £100 pw" i know how to penny pinch. i don't buy brand names either and that saves a lot. a night out and a few other items for that amount of money easily. | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. " Depends. I don't get paid what I could in the private sector, but I do OK. OP, I have £200 to £500 left over each month, depending on whether I've been on holiday that month. Since my daughter left home my outgoings have decreased dramatically. So the salary you need is the one that supports your lifestyle. | |||
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"£400 per month is decent enough to let you have some luxuries, if you have dependents then more than that obviously. anything less is probably not worth getting out of bed for. Did you mean a week? Not many luxuries I would have thought for less then a £100 pw i know how to penny pinch. i don't buy brand names either and that saves a lot. a night out and a few other items for that amount of money easily." I agree penny pinching is good....but if your not living with your man and dad....you have gas, electric ,water rates ,broadband (normally) ,council tax and mortgage or rent and that's before you've bought any food....and I won't mention the car...bugger just did | |||
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"So the salary you need is the one that supports your lifestyle." This about sums it up. Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me | |||
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"So the salary you need is the one that supports your lifestyle. This about sums it up. Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me " AbFabs is ~£50 for a couple on saturday night so i wouldn't fancy spending half my weekly disposable income on that! | |||
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" Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me " I thought it was just me £400 a month? How do you live on that? Being frugal is one thing but I'd imagine the cost of rent/mortgage & utility bills will just about swallow that up, even if you live in shared accommodation. | |||
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" Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me I thought it was just me £400 a month? How do you live on that? Being frugal is one thing but I'd imagine the cost of rent/mortgage & utility bills will just about swallow that up, even if you live in shared accommodation. " I think that figure is spare after bills ..I could be wrong | |||
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" Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me I thought it was just me £400 a month? How do you live on that? Being frugal is one thing but I'd imagine the cost of rent/mortgage & utility bills will just about swallow that up, even if you live in shared accommodation. " Think you'll probably find that's what people are quoting for AFTER bills are paid.. I spend way more than £100 a week but could easily live on that after mortgage and all bill were paid. | |||
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" Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me I thought it was just me £400 a month? How do you live on that? Being frugal is one thing but I'd imagine the cost of rent/mortgage & utility bills will just about swallow that up, even if you live in shared accommodation. I think that figure is spare after bills ..I could be wrong " Even so! Seems low to me, personally. | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. " The pension isn't as good as it used to be either. | |||
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" Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me I thought it was just me £400 a month? How do you live on that? Being frugal is one thing but I'd imagine the cost of rent/mortgage & utility bills will just about swallow that up, even if you live in shared accommodation. I think that figure is spare after bills ..I could be wrong " OP wanted to know net after costs, that is, after all outgoings. £400 a month left over is amazing for me (as I also save £300 a month). Not long ago I was constantly running into my overdraft. | |||
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" Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me I thought it was just me £400 a month? How do you live on that? Being frugal is one thing but I'd imagine the cost of rent/mortgage & utility bills will just about swallow that up, even if you live in shared accommodation. " My water bill is £7 pcm and broadband £15. I don't have a car or go drinking, I don't do foreign holidays or smoke so it's easy for me to be frugal. | |||
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" Some of the amounts mentioned in this thread seem crazy low to me I thought it was just me £400 a month? How do you live on that? Being frugal is one thing but I'd imagine the cost of rent/mortgage & utility bills will just about swallow that up, even if you live in shared accommodation. I think that figure is spare after bills ..I could be wrong OP wanted to know net after costs, that is, after all outgoings. £400 a month left over is amazing for me (as I also save £300 a month). Not long ago I was constantly running into my overdraft." But the OP wanted to know a good amount to have after bills have been paid. Comparing it to constantly being in overdraft isn't necessarily good....I guess I took the post differently. Normatively rather than practically. £400 left after bills wouldn't be something I necessarily strive for when considering a career change. Personally. Although I did agree earlier that the answer really depends on the OP's lifestyle. | |||
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"Net after costs how much money is a good amount to have left over each month? Thinking about career changes but since the main reason for work is money whatever job I do. I wonder whether the private or public sector is the way to go? " Based on the face that you live in elstree, I'm guessing ur outgoings are quite high. I work in the public sector and definitely don't get paid the living equivalent for such a high cost area ( Hemel Hempstead) I struggle month to month. This is the first month I will have about £300 left over in a year that I've worked down here. But it depends on what job you want to do. I wouldn't want to change my job for the world. And I really do like the area that I work in... but I know I will never ever be able to afford a house here.i currently live in a flat share | |||
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"I get £1700 a month to myself after everything's paid off. I say everything, I only pay for a car. Bonus of living on camp but I got no one to share it with " Feel free to send some my way.... every little helps n all that lol Also... not too far from you | |||
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"The public sector pension has changed, it's still good though. Every so often I toy with the idea of doing consultancy work, which I'd be looking at £750 per day (gross) but I'm not a risk taker so realise that's not for me. My advice to anyone would be do a job you love and the salary will be immaterial " Strongly disagree with the last statement. Frankly there are entire industries set up to exploit naive girls following that advice (e.g. fashion & equestrian) | |||
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"I get £1700 a month to myself after everything's paid off. I say everything, I only pay for a car. Bonus of living on camp but I got no one to share it with " I remember those good days (especially before pay as you dine). Have a millionaires weekend first weekend of the month and live like a bum for the rest of the month. It dosent last forever, one day you'll have responsibilities and all the bills that go with them. Enjoy it while you can. | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. " Unless you're an IT contractor... Their day rates are insane. | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. Unless you're an IT contractor... Their day rates are insane." Really? How much are we talking? | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. Unless you're an IT contractor... Their day rates are insane. Really? How much are we talking? " Anywhere between £300-600 per day in my experience (as a permy working with contractors in the public sector). | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. Unless you're an IT contractor... Their day rates are insane. Really? How much are we talking? Anywhere between £300-600 per day in my experience (as a permy working with contractors in the public sector)." Yeah respectable, but as a contractor you're technically not in the public sector. | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. Unless you're an IT contractor... Their day rates are insane. Really? How much are we talking? Anywhere between £300-600 per day in my experience (as a permy working with contractors in the public sector). Yeah respectable, but as a contractor you're technically not in the public sector. " Unless you fall in to IR35, which is now the case for most. That's why they're all leaving. | |||
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"We have separate bank accounts so out of mine I've probably got about £800 left over after all the bills, mortgage, insurance etc. I do pay £250 per month into a pension fund which my work doubles. So it's £750 per month into it. Not actually sure what Mrs has left over tbh. We played it smart when we bought our house, had no debts and bought something dirt cheap that needed work doing to it, hence the silly cheap mortgage. We don't earn huge amounts, just haven't racked up lots of debt over the years, a lot of cars you see on the road today will be in the region of £350+ repayments per month " The amount people pay to lease or purchase a car seems crazy, I know many that pay more for their car than we do on our mortgage, admittedly our mortgage is small but still seems ridiculous. | |||
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"We have separate bank accounts so out of mine I've probably got about £800 left over after all the bills, mortgage, insurance etc. I do pay £250 per month into a pension fund which my work doubles. So it's £750 per month into it. Not actually sure what Mrs has left over tbh. We played it smart when we bought our house, had no debts and bought something dirt cheap that needed work doing to it, hence the silly cheap mortgage. We don't earn huge amounts, just haven't racked up lots of debt over the years, a lot of cars you see on the road today will be in the region of £350+ repayments per month The amount people pay to lease or purchase a car seems crazy, I know many that pay more for their car than we do on our mortgage, admittedly our mortgage is small but still seems ridiculous." Exactly, our mortgage on a repayment loan was £221 per month when we took it out. You can't buy an average car for cheaper than that on credit. | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. Unless you're an IT contractor... Their day rates are insane. Really? How much are we talking? Anywhere between £300-600 per day in my experience (as a permy working with contractors in the public sector). Yeah respectable, but as a contractor you're technically not in the public sector. Unless you fall in to IR35, which is now the case for most. That's why they're all leaving." I know! People on over £150,000 a year having to pay tax! The nerve! | |||
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"I get £1700 a month to myself after everything's paid off. I say everything, I only pay for a car. Bonus of living on camp but I got no one to share it with I remember those good days (especially before pay as you dine). Have a millionaires weekend first weekend of the month and live like a bum for the rest of the month. It dosent last forever, one day you'll have responsibilities and all the bills that go with them. Enjoy it while you can." Certainly am my friend. Certainly am | |||
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"Public sector salaries aren't great and the pensions are ok but not as good as they used to be unless you're already a member and within 10 years of retirement age. As someone else said the IR35 issue has hit the number of contractors in the public sector too. I overspend every month but am getting better the last few months at budgeting. If someone wants to manage my money for me it would be greatly appreciated " I'll 'manage'it....what's your account information? | |||
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"Net after costs how much money is a good amount to have left over each month? Thinking about career changes but since the main reason for work is money whatever job I do. I wonder whether the private or public sector is the way to go? " Become an MP. It's sort of public sector with lots of advantagious private sector shoulder rubbing. | |||
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"Public sector salaries aren't great and the pensions are ok but not as good as they used to be unless you're already a member and within 10 years of retirement age. As someone else said the IR35 issue has hit the number of contractors in the public sector too. I overspend every month but am getting better the last few months at budgeting. If someone wants to manage my money for me it would be greatly appreciated I'll 'manage'it....what's your account information? " I'll need yours first to transfer it all into. AC Number, Sort Code, 16 digits on the front of the card, export date and the 3 at the back should be enough Ps what's your mothers maiden name? | |||
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"Nobody joins the public sector for the salary Pension - maybe. But salary, no. Unless you're an IT contractor... Their day rates are insane." Their day rates are awesome, especially with 20yrs experience. | |||
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"Public sector salaries aren't great and the pensions are ok but not as good as they used to be unless you're already a member and within 10 years of retirement age. As someone else said the IR35 issue has hit the number of contractors in the public sector too. I overspend every month but am getting better the last few months at budgeting. If someone wants to manage my money for me it would be greatly appreciated I'll 'manage'it....what's your account information? I'll need yours first to transfer it all into. AC Number, Sort Code, 16 digits on the front of the card, export date and the 3 at the back should be enough Ps what's your mothers maiden name? " I could have done with your help myself, but a Nigerian prince has just emailed me with a great offer. Retirement has come early for this kid | |||
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"£400 per month is decent enough to let you have some luxuries, if you have dependents then more than that obviously. anything less is probably not worth getting out of bed for. Did you mean a week? Not many luxuries I would have thought for less then a £100 pw i know how to penny pinch. i don't buy brand names either and that saves a lot. a night out and a few other items for that amount of money easily. I agree penny pinching is good....but if your not living with your man and dad....you have gas, electric ,water rates ,broadband (normally) ,council tax and mortgage or rent and that's before you've bought any food....and I won't mention the car...bugger just did" he said disposable income. i've lived on less then £100 a week for everything and you can't even have the heating on. | |||
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"Thanks to everyone for their comments. I'm surprised so many people have said so much. I think everyone agrees that being at least in the black every month is the target and of course I agree. Earning more and spending less as a proportion of earnings as time goes on so I am able to save/invest for the rainy day and longer term when I may not have a job or get to an age where it is acceptable for me to 'retire' and have sex with older ladies before or after luncheon club. Some people are going to have challenges. A gent posted that 90000 or more is his expectation now in gross salary. Statistically that's a small percentage of the population. How to make future salary jumps when you get to that number or more must be quite a conundrum. If you develop habits that spend to your means then not achieving that salary in the future could be a risky strategy. If I were fortunate enough to continue to increase my income every year by the same percentages I've got previously then by the time I'm sixty, I'll have to count with someone else's fingers and toes.... In fact it could be the world's biggest gang bang. I tend to think people in my life don't talk about money enough and how we spend and even less about how to save it and since we spend so much time for many of us trapped in a financial struggle of our spending and earning that makes no sense. We can all help each other. " Life events can affect that trajectory. My earnings dropped by over 60% after the 2008 global crash and needing to take up caring responsibilities. One or the other might have been OK but both coming together affected my earning potential and I have not been able to get back to my 2008 level. | |||
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"Thanks to everyone for their comments. I'm surprised so many people have said so much. I think everyone agrees that being at least in the black every month is the target and of course I agree. Earning more and spending less as a proportion of earnings as time goes on so I am able to save/invest for the rainy day and longer term when I may not have a job or get to an age where it is acceptable for me to 'retire' and have sex with older ladies before or after luncheon club. Some people are going to have challenges. A gent posted that 90000 or more is his expectation now in gross salary. Statistically that's a small percentage of the population. How to make future salary jumps when you get to that number or more must be quite a conundrum. If you develop habits that spend to your means then not achieving that salary in the future could be a risky strategy. If I were fortunate enough to continue to increase my income every year by the same percentages I've got previously then by the time I'm sixty, I'll have to count with someone else's fingers and toes.... In fact it could be the world's biggest gang bang. I tend to think people in my life don't talk about money enough and how we spend and even less about how to save it and since we spend so much time for many of us trapped in a financial struggle of our spending and earning that makes no sense. We can all help each other. Life events can affect that trajectory. My earnings dropped by over 60% after the 2008 global crash and needing to take up caring responsibilities. One or the other might have been OK but both coming together affected my earning potential and I have not been able to get back to my 2008 level. " So you're a banker or nevada real estate mogul? | |||
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"There's no right or wrong answer to this is there? You tend to live to your means. Straight out of uni without two pennies to rub together and I got by - I bought everything on the cheap and made it last. Now years later my disposal income is better and I still get by - I buy more expensive things, try and minimise / reduce any debt and save where I can. If I suddenly lost my income then I'd reduce right back again. Cut your cloth accordingly and all that! So I can't put a specific 'number' on what would be the right level for me " Live within your means, now there's an idea that won't catch on | |||
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"There's no right or wrong answer to this is there? You tend to live to your means. Straight out of uni without two pennies to rub together and I got by - I bought everything on the cheap and made it last. Now years later my disposal income is better and I still get by - I buy more expensive things, try and minimise / reduce any debt and save where I can. If I suddenly lost my income then I'd reduce right back again. Cut your cloth accordingly and all that! So I can't put a specific 'number' on what would be the right level for me Live within your means, now there's an idea that won't catch on" I always have. Neither a borrower or a lender be. | |||
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" I tend to think people in my life don't talk about money enough and how we spend and even less about how to save it and since we spend so much time for many of us trapped in a financial struggle of our spending and earning that makes no sense. We can all help each other. " I know someone earning more than the amount of the gent you quoted. Socialist by nature who donate massively to charity yet have a lifestyle people would class as posh. You would never know how much a postcode might differ from someones philosophy. | |||
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"£400 per month is decent enough to let you have some luxuries, if you have dependents then more than that obviously. anything less is probably not worth getting out of bed for. Did you mean a week? Not many luxuries I would have thought for less then a £100 pw" For some £100 per week is enough. Some people are frugal. For me I manage and spend £1300 a month on food, toiletries, booze, clothes, lending money (never getting it back) random purchases on items i cant or dont use. I do save money every month and there is always something in the home or on the car that needs fixing. | |||
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"£400 per month is decent enough to let you have some luxuries, if you have dependents then more than that obviously. anything less is probably not worth getting out of bed for. Did you mean a week? Not many luxuries I would have thought for less then a £100 pw For some £100 per week is enough. Some people are frugal. For me I manage and spend £1300 a month on food, toiletries, booze, clothes, lending money (never getting it back) random purchases on items i cant or dont use. I do save money every month and there is always something in the home or on the car that needs fixing. " That's £300 more than I earn a month spent on luxury items Fair fucking play!! | |||
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