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"Circumcision maybe? Yes,I forgot about that one" also if there's any issues regarding like transmen, men of colour and not straight men. They'll score some woke points lol | |||
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"Circumcision maybe?" Babies don't have a voice to exercise a right. | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add?" What about the right to get a reply to you message on Fab? | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add? What about the right to get a reply to you message on Fab?" If you push for that right, you will get a reply alright, but it will most likely be fuck off  | |||
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"Circumcision maybe? Babies don't have a voice to exercise a right. " I think it should be treated as cosmetic surgery, unless it is causing pain or anything like that | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add?" Until there is an equal percentage of domestic abuse, there should be more safe houses for women. | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add? Until there is an equal percentage of domestic abuse, there should be more safe houses for women." I'll be honest with you, I'm struggling to explain what I mean but there is less of a percentage of safe houses per male victims than female, does that make sense? But I do know that I'm saying there should be more safe houses for men, but I'm certainly not saying there should be less for women | |||
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"Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. " and I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with that. I think talking about it and not creating a victim blaming narrative will help. And empowering men to actually see and realise it's a problem and be more open with their feelings. Do I think we need men's rights as such? I'm not sure. But I do think we need a culture which doesn't expect men to 'man up' and just get on with the hardships of life. | |||
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"Circumcision maybe? Babies don't have a voice to exercise a right. I think it should be treated as cosmetic surgery, unless it is causing pain or anything like that " Religions won't agree with that. | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add? Until there is an equal percentage of domestic abuse, there should be more safe houses for women. I'll be honest with you, I'm struggling to explain what I mean but there is less of a percentage of safe houses per male victims than female, does that make sense? But I do know that I'm saying there should be more safe houses for men, but I'm certainly not saying there should be less for women " I understand perfectly what you mean. Just because the large majority of victims of domestic violence are female doesn't mean men aren't on the receiving end too. Male victims of DV are often forgotten and there are very few services out there for them, everything is geared towards women. Sadly things are unlikely to change anytime soon. Because of cuts all support services for victims of DV are at risk. | |||
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"Circumcision maybe? Babies don't have a voice to exercise a right. I think it should be treated as cosmetic surgery, unless it is causing pain or anything like that " i'm tempted to class it as genital mutilation. if it's removed for no medical reason. but like the brain says, religion won't stand for that. | |||
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"Circumcision maybe? Babies don't have a voice to exercise a right. I think it should be treated as cosmetic surgery, unless it is causing pain or anything like that Religions won't agree with that." There are a lot of religions that don't agree with the empowerment of women, they are just going to have to deal with it | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add? Until there is an equal percentage of domestic abuse, there should be more safe houses for women. I'll be honest with you, I'm struggling to explain what I mean but there is less of a percentage of safe houses per male victims than female, does that make sense? But I do know that I'm saying there should be more safe houses for men, but I'm certainly not saying there should be less for women " The results from the Crime Survey of England and Wales were starkly different from the picture of domestic abuse normally painted in the media. Whilst overall the ratio was something like 2/3 of victims were women and 1/3 men there were some age groups where it was almost parity. The changes in definitions where emotional and financial abuse are now included possibly account for a lot of this. Generally reporting is an issue with only about 20% of cases being taken to the police but it does suggest that under reporting it much more pronounced in male victims which is hardly a suprise given societal attitudes. | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add? Until there is an equal percentage of domestic abuse, there should be more safe houses for women. I'll be honest with you, I'm struggling to explain what I mean but there is less of a percentage of safe houses per male victims than female, does that make sense? But I do know that I'm saying there should be more safe houses for men, but I'm certainly not saying there should be less for women The results from the Crime Survey of England and Wales were starkly different from the picture of domestic abuse normally painted in the media. Whilst overall the ratio was something like 2/3 of victims were women and 1/3 men there were some age groups where it was almost parity. The changes in definitions where emotional and financial abuse are now included possibly account for a lot of this. Generally reporting is an issue with only about 20% of cases being taken to the police but it does suggest that under reporting it much more pronounced in male victims which is hardly a suprise given societal attitudes." Priority should be given to the victims with children. | |||
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"I was originally going to start spouting off about the extreme men's rights activists and throw in a few crappy generalising views and insults 'cause that's what always happens in threads about feminism (over five years of it and nothing has changed yet, just the posters!) but then I read this Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. and I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with that. I think talking about it and not creating a victim blaming narrative will help. And empowering men to actually see and realise it's a problem and be more open with their feelings. Do I think we need men's rights as such? I'm not sure. But I do think we need a culture which doesn't expect men to 'man up' and just get on with the hardships of life. " here's a good one to look at with that light. Fibromyalgia, main symptoms chronic fatigue and chronic pain. No diagnostic test to detect it all based on patient feedback. Affects 7 times as many women as men. (Iirc this puts it was one of if not the highest gender disparity in disease thats not linked to gender, prostate/ovary cancer/heamophillia etc) Is this because the condition genuinly affects vastly more women than men. Or is it because the symptoms are just considered "normal" for a working man? Nearly everyone I work with had some form of chronic pain at this point from the physical stresses of work | |||
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"Men make up approximately 95% of work place deaths. Never see any femininist campaigning to close that gender gap" It really is making me scratch my head when men are implying that feminists should campaign on their behalf. | |||
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"I was originally going to start spouting off about the extreme men's rights activists and throw in a few crappy generalising views and insults 'cause that's what always happens in threads about feminism (over five years of it and nothing has changed yet, just the posters!) but then I read this Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. and I have to say I wholeheartedly agree with that. I think talking about it and not creating a victim blaming narrative will help. And empowering men to actually see and realise it's a problem and be more open with their feelings. Do I think we need men's rights as such? I'm not sure. But I do think we need a culture which doesn't expect men to 'man up' and just get on with the hardships of life. here's a good one to look at with that light. Fibromyalgia, main symptoms chronic fatigue and chronic pain. No diagnostic test to detect it all based on patient feedback. Affects 7 times as many women as men. (Iirc this puts it was one of if not the highest gender disparity in disease thats not linked to gender, prostate/ovary cancer/heamophillia etc) Is this because the condition genuinly affects vastly more women than men. Or is it because the symptoms are just considered "normal" for a working man? Nearly everyone I work with had some form of chronic pain at this point from the physical stresses of work" Are you saying that many men suffer from it but aren't diagnosed ? | |||
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"Ok, I tried to resist, but I couldn't. The rights, or special needs of men, don't necessarily conflict with women's rights. Men are more likely to commit suicide than women, and we should address that. Men suffer domestic violence, but the proportion of safe houses for male victims is a lot lower than that for women. Women are far more likely to get custody of children in the event of a family breakdown (if this didn't happen then that would help in closing the wage gap) Are there any points anyone would like to add? Until there is an equal percentage of domestic abuse, there should be more safe houses for women. I'll be honest with you, I'm struggling to explain what I mean but there is less of a percentage of safe houses per male victims than female, does that make sense? But I do know that I'm saying there should be more safe houses for men, but I'm certainly not saying there should be less for women The results from the Crime Survey of England and Wales were starkly different from the picture of domestic abuse normally painted in the media. Whilst overall the ratio was something like 2/3 of victims were women and 1/3 men there were some age groups where it was almost parity. The changes in definitions where emotional and financial abuse are now included possibly account for a lot of this. Generally reporting is an issue with only about 20% of cases being taken to the police but it does suggest that under reporting it much more pronounced in male victims which is hardly a suprise given societal attitudes. Priority should be given to the victims with children. " Yes definetly although that's not so easy when it's a man because most places are for women and children. It's far harder for men who are victims of DV to get help in general and also societies reaction to guys is very different to the reaction towards women. A guy i know who is a victim of DV hasn't sought help. Peoples reaction is so strange, even his parents reacted in a way that implied that he was weak because he let a woman hit him etc. Even now, 10 years after he left her, he is still scared of his ex and it affects his life. Help should be as easily available for men as it is for women. | |||
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