FabSwingers.com forum: New "age verification" law comes into effect next year

By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

Wondering how the new age verification laws will be implemented on Fabswingers? Looks like all sites have to have something in place by April next year.

Sex and dating sites are not exactly well known for keeping data secure and so I wonder if trust will be an issue in submitting credit card information and other personal details.

I believe reliable external links are allowed...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40628909

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

There was that site in the USA that got hacked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out.

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out. "

I dont think that you will be the only one who thinks this way. It will be a tough call to get a true validation method that also does not leave people feeling vulnerable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out. "

I don't have a current passport or driving license, so that would be a problem. There will be a few problems I think with that x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wondering how the new age verification laws will be implemented on Fabswingers? Looks like all sites have to have something in place by April next year.

Sex and dating sites are not exactly well known for keeping data secure and so I wonder if trust will be an issue in submitting credit card information and other personal details.

I believe reliable external links are allowed...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40628909"
Nah but this is a good idea the amount of time I wasted beating my meat from age 13 is ridiculous.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

If this can be implemented to work effectively in Fab, I think it will be great, as so many people in here lie about their age, so they can dodge age barriers in the search function

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

If this happens then I ges a lot of people will leave fab.

I no I will if it comes out cos I'm not putting any inporntount info on line.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If this happens then I get a lot of people will leave fab.

I no I will if it comes out cos I'm not putting any inporntount info on line.

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it's not a case of if but when

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I for one will leave the site. I'm not prepared to give out that sort of information to use a site such as this.

I was defrauded using a site that was encrypted. It's a massive internet shopping site and I know others who have had the same happen via the same site.

People who wish to lie about their age (under18) will probably just use someone else's credit card???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I for one will leave the site. I'm not prepared to give out that sort of information to use a site such as this.

I was defrauded using a site that was encrypted. It's a massive internet shopping site and I know others who have had the same happen via the same site.

People who wish to lie about their age (under18) will probably just use someone else's credit card??? "
They should allow people to use their driving license number if people want to take my speeding fines go right ahead

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

"I for one will leave the site. I'm not prepared to give out that sort of information to use a site such as this.

I was defrauded using a site that was encrypted. It's a massive internet shopping site and I know others who have had the same happen via the same site.

People who wish to lie about their age (under18) will probably just use someone else's credit card??? They should allow people to use their driving license number if people want to take my speeding fines go right ahead"

I don't drive

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

I suspect that companies such as Microsoft, Facebook, Symantec, etc. Will create a process for age verification where by they securely hold your details and verify on your behalf (example-you request a code from MS that's valid for a short period that you can supply to the website needing to validate your age)

Im sure the majority of people will noy want to supply personal details to small web businesses that do not have secure server systems that could easily be hacked, it's the only possible work around I can see happening.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

Best Greggs in Cheshire East

"I suspect that companies such as Microsoft, Facebook, Symantec, etc. Will create a process for age verification where by they securely hold your details and verify on your behalf (example-you request a code from MS that's valid for a short period that you can supply to the website needing to validate your age)

This makes perfect sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a load of palavar just to knock one out.

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By *essThePirateWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

This makes perfect sense."

. I love being honest. Please tell me the difference between your experience on fab and match. Mine's on My Profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a credit card, driving license or passport so I'll be gone.

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

If this was an international requirement then I think that this may happen. Problem is that it is UK only and for a relatively small market.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One positive point is that it will rid us of fake profiles and site members with more than one profile. It seems the numbers of genuine members might drop significantly if it goes through.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

If this was an international requirement then I think that this may happen. Problem is that it is UK only and for a relatively small market."

The UK is a huge market, almost 80% of the adult population use computers regularly (more than once a week)...

Supply the service for free and sell targeted advertising space, plus the added bonus of customer loyalty to your products, there is no way that the big companies will not exploit this captive market.

It'll definitely catch on worldwide as it's not just an age verification tool but a way to verify you are who you say...

And the positive is additional online safety, it'll aid prevention of online fraud as it removes some of the anonymity criminals hide behind.

Win win as I see it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

seeing as there are many people on here who wont even post a pic because "of the job they do" I can hardly see any of them then suddenly deciding to give out personal details...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is my last meet verification not enough?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, not worth it to comment on a forum

The day before it happened I'd have given out my kik to anyone I chat to, and I'd go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *urreyfun2008Man
over a year ago

East Grinstead

Don't see how it will get rid of fake profiles, it is about verifying your age not your sex or honesty. Ie bloke can use card and register as a female.

Systems as proposed sites may only see an over 18 answer. Not clear if will be a cost to public and or sites.

Also note the bbfc part so while this site is generally compliant e.g rules on fisting pics but this may widen

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"I don't have a credit card, driving license or passport so I'll be gone.

I don't have any either, and doubt I ever will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tbh I think admin should be notifying us of how it is going to effect this site.

We are all speculating on something that they maybe able to put to a end

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By *ootballFlowerCouple
over a year ago

Ollerton

I'm not sure it will apply to Fab to be honest, the restrictions are to apply to websites that provide pornography on a commercial basis.

Yes this site does have pornographic images it's main commercial business is as a meeting site so I don't know how it will work or if it will apply to Fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tbh I think admin should be notifying us of how it is going to effect this site.

We are all speculating on something that they maybe able to put to a end

Oh but we do love a good bit of speculation don't we? ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll have to start downloading my favourite porn videos before it kicks in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We just need VPN and come to Fab via France or any other country that doesn't require verification. The target is kids who all use VPN to watch American television anyway...

Can see this falling over before it starts, or killing internet porn completely if sucessful, taking sites lIke fab in its wake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really do hope this age verification thing does not apply here as this is my only social outlet and I've made so many friends here and I don't want to lose contact with them

What is puzzling though is, why should we give out card details just to verify our age when we already pay for membership anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone's on about card details yet how many here are site supporters...they have your verification that way..

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

I think it absolutely will apply to Fabswingers. Although a route around it for those who don't want to do the age verification thing would be to accept that picture filters may be used as in the current mode for looking at the site stealthily. Those who do age verify would have normal access.

I guess the question then is whether text is also classed as porn. In that case profanity filters will also be needed for those who choose not to age verify.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They haven't a clue how they are going to do it. They just want to.

It would make sense to apply it to the ISP rather than individual sites. My mobile provider can block me from seeing Fab and I have to enter my info to unlock it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it absolutely will apply to Fabswingers. Although a route around it for those who don't want to do the age verification thing would be to accept that picture filters may be used as in the current mode for looking at the site stealthily. Those who do age verify would have normal access.

I guess the question then is whether text is also classed as porn. In that case profanity filters will also be needed for those who choose not to age verify."

If this does happen, how are people supposed to get in touch with friends and arrange meetups at a social or at a club?

This is starting to worry me as I have aspergers and this site has helped me socialize and and gain confidence in meeting new people and making new friends and I don't want to lose my friends and my confidence.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

My eldest son will probably let the youngest son use his details anyway!

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By *urreyfun2008Man
over a year ago

East Grinstead

This is in addition to existing parental control systems

And on this sites payment would only count if it was a verified age verification system ie. being able to pay via a payg mobile likely to fail that

On image filter whole site could be classed sexting, alas nothing has been confirmed as site admins have just as much idea as the rest of us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tbh I think admin should be notifying us of how it is going to effect this site.

We are all speculating on something that they maybe able to put to a end

Oh but we do love a good bit of speculation don't we? ?

Yep we do....but if it comes in how many 18 year olds will be here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I read on this article, this would have consequences if they make us put in card details to access porn. This age verification system would be a hacker's paradise as many people's detail would be at risk.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/porn-block-ban-in-the-uk-age-verifcation-law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tbh I think admin should be notifying us of how it is going to effect this site.

We are all speculating on something that they maybe able to put to a end

Oh but we do love a good bit of speculation don't we? ?

Yep we do....but if it comes in how many 18 year olds will be here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's on about card details yet how many here are site supporters...they have your verification that way.."

you dont have to use a credit card for that if you dont want to, or dont have one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love being honest. Please tell me the difference between your experience on fab and match. Mine's on My Profile"

Off to find Jess on Match

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As good a reason as protecting kids from seeing things they aren't old enough to understand is...this is another frightening step from the government wanting to control and monitor everything we do in our lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time to download a ton of porn ready for when the laws come in. Then I'll leave this site too.

Unless they come up with some decent way or proving age, because I won't be giving them any of my personal details.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

It will apply to Fab , as it's an 18+ website with adult / pornographic content.

But, if age verification is by credit card, the website never sees those details. When you use your card online, you are generally diverted to a payment gateway, like Worldpay, Sage, Paypal etc. They handle your details, not the website.

Fab could just ask for a £1 card payment, and it would be sorted, securely as any other online purchase.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out.

I don't have a current passport or driving license, so that would be a problem. There will be a few problems I think with that x "

Some banks do a prepay card that's a bit like a credit card, but you load with money & when the money is spent that's it until you put more on.

My parents use these when they go on holiday. I think they got theirs from Santander.

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"If this can be implemented to work effectively in Fab, I think it will be great, as so many people in here lie about their age, so they can dodge age barriers in the search function

What about people who don't want to be found by crazy exes? Is that to do with search functions?

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

That BBC link says "UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018".

How is that relevant to Fab I wonder?

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

"That BBC link says "UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018".

How is that relevant to Fab I wonder?"

Are you being serious?

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"That BBC link says "UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018".

How is that relevant to Fab I wonder?

Are you being serious?"

Yes I am, this is not a pornography site per se.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This makes perfect sense.

. I love being honest. Please tell me the difference between your experience on fab and match. Mine's on My Profile"

LOVE your profile!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When it says credit card it does mean you can use a debit card too it's just terminology

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I for one will leave the site. I'm not prepared to give out that sort of information to use a site such as this.

I was defrauded using a site that was encrypted. It's a massive internet shopping site and I know others who have had the same happen via the same site.

That contains your date of birth anyway. And if someone wanted to lie then they'd change the numbers a bit.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

So more tax payers money spent on enforcement of this.

And further tax payers money paid to the service providers to help offset their costs to implement it.

A reason to use credit cards, rather than debit cards, is that children can't legally get them.

Who voted this government and their priorities in?

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

"That BBC link says "UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018".

How is that relevant to Fab I wonder?

Are you being serious?

Yes I am, this is not a pornography site per se."

Fab will absolutely fall under the umbrella of pornography sites. Why do you think you are "supposed" to be 18 to join and view profile pics and read the forum and its stories?

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By *atsun xxxMan
over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

I have already done one age verification on o2. Was just a credit card check, they take 1 pound out and put it on your account

All sites will be the same so you will have to trust them, nothing different to online shopping xxx

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"So more tax payers money spent on enforcement of this.

And further tax payers money paid to the service providers to help offset their costs to implement it.

A reason to use credit cards, rather than debit cards, is that children can't legally get them.

Who voted this government and their priorities in?"

Not forgetting the new task of policing the age verification service providers

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"That BBC link says "UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018".

How is that relevant to Fab I wonder?

Are you being serious?

Yes I am, this is not a pornography site per se.

Fab will absolutely fall under the umbrella of pornography sites. Why do you think you are "supposed" to be 18 to join and view profile pics and read the forum and its stories?"

Ok, you know best

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"I have already done one age verification on o2. Was just a credit card check, they take 1 pound out and put it on your account

All sites will be the same so you will have to trust them, nothing different to online shopping xxx"

A lot of online shopping is done via PayPal, where you do not share your personal information with small, unregulated, independent online retailers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That BBC link says "UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018".

How is that relevant to Fab I wonder?

Are you being serious?

Yes I am, this is not a pornography site per se.

Fab will absolutely fall under the umbrella of pornography sites. Why do you think you are "supposed" to be 18 to join and view profile pics and read the forum and its stories?"

You can read the forum without being a member. Anyone with the address can view it.

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"You can read the forum without being a member. Anyone with the address can view it."

This is true

Also, in my opinion anyway, the images on Fab are to make one as attractive as one can to enable one to meet other site members.

They are not "produced solely or principally for the purposes of sexual arousal". Which is the main crux of the definition of porn in the Act

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have already done one age verification on o2. Was just a credit card check, they take 1 pound out and put it on your account

All sites will be the same so you will have to trust them, nothing different to online shopping xxx"

I don't have a credit card.

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"I have already done one age verification on o2. Was just a credit card check, they take 1 pound out and put it on your account

All sites will be the same so you will have to trust them, nothing different to online shopping xxx

I don't have a credit card."

Neither do I and I don't want one either

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By *atsun xxxMan
over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

"I have already done one age verification on o2. Was just a credit card check, they take 1 pound out and put it on your account

All sites will be the same so you will have to trust them, nothing different to online shopping xxx

I don't have a credit card."

I don't use it much though, just couldn't bare the thought of not being able to get fab on my mobile data

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

I'd rather not if it's all the same.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Just out of interest, i wonder how the credit card companies feel about people using cards for age verification when your details have been stolen and a huge debt run up? They may write a clause into the t&c's to stop you dishing out card details willy nilly to random porn sites!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's also a massive overkill, where all adults will have to repeatedly do this for every site that they visit. The accumulated data is a huge privacy breach nightmare in the making.

The idea has been lobbied with the government by companies that want to operate the security checks, who stand to gain handsomely.

Parents should police their kids internet access and that's it. The phone companies and ISPs already offer barriers - which the taxpayer funded!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's also a massive overkill, where all adults will have to repeatedly do this for every site that they visit. The accumulated data is a huge privacy breach nightmare in the making.

The idea has been lobbied with the government by companies that want to operate the security checks, who stand to gain handsomely.

Parents should police their kids internet access and that's it. The phone companies and ISPs already offer barriers - which the taxpayer funded! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That BBC link says "UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018".

How is that relevant to Fab I wonder?

Are you being serious?

Yes I am, this is not a pornography site per se.

Fab will absolutely fall under the umbrella of pornography sites. Why do you think you are "supposed" to be 18 to join and view profile pics and read the forum and its stories?"

you can probably read fab forums on other sites...you can read them as a non member(try it yourself), usernames and profiles are blocked to an extent.

when someone goes unlos...and say "I'm leaving " etc etc...they probably still log on and read

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I don't want the staff at my credit card company knowing I am a swinger. Perhaps we need to register a profile then come back 18 years later instead

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By *rozacMan
over a year ago

london

Another thing to thank Theresa May for.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

So, nobody on this thread has used a card online to buy goods? That's amazing.

Your card details are given to the card handler i.e PayPal, Worldpay etc Not joe bloggs at the website.

It is as safe as any other online transaction when done like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There goes the system again. Trying to control the masses

Fuzz

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By *oluptuousWetOneWoman
over a year ago

Wokingham / Reading

"you can probably read fab forums on other sites...you can read them as a non member(try it yourself), usernames and profiles are blocked to an extent.

when someone goes unlos...and say "I'm leaving " etc etc...they probably still log on and read

If your not log on and reading the forum it appears with a star however click in the profile and the full name actually appears within the url whether you can see the profile or not too many don't check their privacy settings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, nobody on this thread has used a card online to buy goods? That's amazing.

Your card details are given to the card handler i.e PayPal, Worldpay etc Not joe bloggs at the website.

It is as safe as any other online transaction when done like that."

But have you bought anything that tells your card supplier that you are a swinger?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

POF, whilst not asking for verification has an absurd age restriction in the search tool. You can only find people basically your own age. The sole purpose of being 27 and on an online dating site is to try and fuck either 18 year olds or milfs and on there you're not allowed to do either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"POF, whilst not asking for verification has an absurd age restriction in the search tool. You can only find people basically your own age. The sole purpose of being 27 and on an online dating site is to try and fuck either 18 year olds or milfs and on there you're not allowed to do either."

I think that POF exists for you to get married and raise a family not fuck 18 year olds or milfs (though I am sure that 27 year old milfs exist)

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"So, nobody on this thread has used a card online to buy goods? That's amazing.

Your card details are given to the card handler i.e PayPal, Worldpay etc Not joe bloggs at the website.

It is as safe as any other online transaction when done like that.

But have you bought anything that tells your card supplier that you are a swinger? "

Well I'm a site supporter so the phone company 'knows'. Isp 'knows'. Card companies have more sensitive information than knowing that.

They law is coming, to restrict under-age access to adult sites. It's happening. So people have to choose the age verification method that suits them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, nobody on this thread has used a card online to buy goods? That's amazing.

Your card details are given to the card handler i.e PayPal, Worldpay etc Not joe bloggs at the website.

It is as safe as any other online transaction when done like that.

But have you bought anything that tells your card supplier that you are a swinger?

Well I'm a site supporter so the phone company 'knows'. Isp 'knows'. Card companies have more sensitive information than knowing that.

They law is coming, to restrict under-age access to adult sites. It's happening. So people have to choose the age verification method that suits them."

I choose VPN and coming from outside the UK, many have said they won't age verify When I was a site supporter it was from a cash paid burner phone, that wouldn't be allowed as age verification.

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over a year ago

Looked a little closer at this, there is no plan on what constitutes a porn site, no plan on how age verification works, and no plan for non uk sites.

It may possibly work a little bit by making ISP age verify, though no definition on how. And still won't work if you routinely encrypt via vpn.

So another duff proposal of unworkable concept once again. Probably get scrapped, or won't actually make any difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There has been an age-veri requirement for adult content on Second Life, for years. Quick and easy to do, through a 3rd party site.

Just need to enter a passport, CC or driving licence number and the system sets an OK flag. Nothing stored anywhere.

I've never had a credit card and my passport has expired - but driving license (not being linked to money) should be safe enough.

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over a year ago

"There has been an age-veri requirement for adult content on Second Life, for years. Quick and easy to do, through a 3rd party site.

Just need to enter a passport, CC or driving licence number and the system sets an OK flag. Nothing stored anywhere.

I've never had a credit card and my passport has expired - but driving license (not being linked to money) should be safe enough."

So what stops me putting in your driving license number?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The law is coming, to restrict under-age access to adult sites. It's happening. So people have to choose the age verification method that suits them."

ISPs are already required to block, by default. If you sign up in a shop, they usually remove the block there but if you sign up online, you have to jump thru hoops to disable the block.

When I had my new vodafone broadband, I couldnt get online for 2 days, because the page which sets your level of access, hadnt popped up, on first-boot.

Silly thing is, none of my family or friends, are under 18. No minors will ever see my PC, or whatever content I choose to look at, yet the Nanny blanket covers all, regardless.

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By *atsun xxxMan
over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

"Personally I don't want the staff at my credit card company knowing I am a swinger. Perhaps we need to register a profile then come back 18 years later instead

I am pretty sure it won't say fabswinger on your credit card bill

I think they use some sort of holding company name xxx

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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thing is, as well as other concerns, some banks flag your card and stop it when you pay for adult sites coz it's one sign your card has been hacked.

i know mine does coz the first time i paid a sub on this site they stopped me from using my card and i had to phone them to let them know i had made the purchase.

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By *atsun xxxMan
over a year ago

Nr LOUTH Lincolnshire

"thing is, as well as other concerns, some banks flag your card and stop it when you pay for adult sites coz it's one sign your card has been hacked.

i know mine does coz the first time i paid a sub on this site they stopped me from using my card and i had to phone them to let them know i had made the purchase."

I have never had that happen

I usually just get a text saying if it wasn't me that made the purchase get in touch with them xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bottom line is it won't work. A failed experiment before it starts. More expense for websites more money needed for almost no effect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

but they dont use any verification system so men just put in different ages anyway..

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

The cost of implimenting this will affect many small profit sights and small UK porn produces including many who specialise on very specific small areas of kink and the likes of small feminist and ethical porn producers.

It is a move that does concern me, maybe we have nothing to fear from the state in this nation but look around world and you'll see how much an unrestricted and open internet has allowed people to share dissident information, content and art. How this freedom has allowed people to see and challenge the official party line. This is why I am naturally cautious of any attempt to regulate and control the content our most powerful and open outlet of information. We must at least be vigilant against a slippery slope of greater state control of access to internet content and ability for the state to monitor and snoop. Nothing too sinister here granted but just a general concern in principle over the recording of details for users of certain content and state imposed restrictions placed on internet providers. I would just say Our online life is no different from our offline life. We should not accept restrictions and levels of survalence online that we would not accept offline.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will be age verification sites which partner with smaller websites much the same way as paypal acts as a payments merchant for smaller companies.. it is just another industry that will spring up, large secure network companies where you can get an online ID and use that to prove your age.

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over a year ago

"There will be age verification sites which partner with smaller websites much the same way as paypal acts as a payments merchant for smaller companies.. it is just another industry that will spring up, large secure network companies where you can get an online ID and use that to prove your age. "

Have you seen how much money PayPal makes out of small businesses

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Bottom line is it won't work. A failed experiment before it starts. More expense for websites more money needed for almost no effect. "

The worst thing is that we as consumers and taxpayers will bear the costs of its universal implementation for adult sites - however unworkable it may be.

We're such a backwards country. We've already paid for ISPs to implement age restrictions, including from mobiles, so that should be enough for the masses to have to endure for a minority.

And the government costs of this are being spent during a period of austerity.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

That industry has been lobbying the Conservative government to introduce this law.

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"So, nobody on this thread has used a card online to buy goods? That's amazing.

Your card details are given to the card handler i.e PayPal, Worldpay etc Not joe bloggs at the website.

It is as safe as any other online transaction when done like that."

It will depend what payment gateway the website uses. It will have to be one that proves you are over 18. So it may well have to be a personal credit card.

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"Looked a little closer at this, there is no plan on what constitutes a porn site, no plan on how age verification works, and no plan for non uk sites.

It may possibly work a little bit by making ISP age verify, though no definition on how. And still won't work if you routinely encrypt via vpn.

So another duff proposal of unworkable concept once again. Probably get scrapped, or won't actually make any difference."

I've read quite a bit of the relevant part of the Act and it is very woolly. Hence my initial wondering about how it would affect Fab.

For something like this there will be two camps;

1.)'I've got nothing to hide so I'll give sensitive info out willingly' and

2.)'How much more does the government, bank, Experian etc. need to know about me and isn't this messing with my privacy?'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have never given personal details on this or any similar site.

Won't be doing so when this is all implemented.

In the meantime we're busy downloading as much porn as possible for future reference

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By *urreyfun2008Man
over a year ago

East Grinstead

Experian and others are lining up to do verification systems, and then there are questions over how this is linked with all the other data they have.

Paypal unlikely to be involved due to existing rules on adult services.

Smaller adult sites already have limited choices for payment processing, content rules and fines/blocking for those with fisting or pee content are other part, ie fetish behaviour may become underground

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

And why are parents allowing children to get access to porn? The same parents who let their kids watch 18 rated movies and see sex scenes?

The more it's policed the more people will find a way around it.

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By *he Secret Tea PartyCouple
over a year ago

London

"Experian and others are lining up to do verification systems, and then there are questions over how this is linked with all the other data they have."

And whether they will sell it like they do other data. Clubcard data is sold to the government.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

I don't have a problem with it and happy to verify my age on my account by what ever means is necessary. I also think it will benefit the site by getting rid of fake profiles and timewasters as only the more genuine user will be willing to verify age.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out. "

If you have a bank account then you should have a debit card. Visa debit card can be used if you don't have a credit card.

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over a year ago

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out.

If you have a bank account then you should have a debit card. Visa debit card can be used if you don't have a credit card. "

i have a bank account, but don't have a debit card..or a driving licence..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"We just need VPN and come to Fab via France or any other country that doesn't require verification. The target is kids who all use VPN to watch American television anyway...

Can see this falling over before it starts, or killing internet porn completely if sucessful, taking sites lIke fab in its wake. "

So I just need to get one of the kids to get me what I want?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll predict that any new system will result in at least as many timewasters/fakers as there are now.

Largely made up of the same desperate, saddos that will go to any lengths in the hope of a fuck/wank/thrill.

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over a year ago

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out.

If you have a bank account then you should have a debit card. Visa debit card can be used if you don't have a credit card. "

No it cant, under 18's can get a debit card has to be age related verification if this is real.

Experian may only charge the site 20p per verification. Work that with the 31,000 people online to Fab right now let alone those that are not online, and it gets to be big money, that x every porn site is big business worth talking the government into.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out.

If you have a bank account then you should have a debit card. Visa debit card can be used if you don't have a credit card.

i have a bank account, but don't have a debit card..or a driving licence.."

So how do you get money out the bank? I take it you don't use any cash machines/hole in the wall to withdraw money?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Have you seen how much money PayPal makes out of small businesses"

PayPal is already used here on fab. It shows as an option to buy site supporter silver or gold membership.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks like many of you will be saying goodbye then

........or maybe we should just wait until we know for definite how the site will be affected?

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over a year ago

"I don't have a credit card, so I won't be able to verify myself that way. I'm not giving my passport details or driving license details out.

If you have a bank account then you should have a debit card. Visa debit card can be used if you don't have a credit card.

i have a bank account, but don't have a debit card..or a driving licence..

So how do you get money out the bank? I take it you don't use any cash machines/hole in the wall to withdraw money? "

of course i use cash machines..the cashpoint cards dont necessarily have to be debit cards!

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"thing is, as well as other concerns, some banks flag your card and stop it when you pay for adult sites coz it's one sign your card has been hacked.

i know mine does coz the first time i paid a sub on this site they stopped me from using my card and i had to phone them to let them know i had made the purchase.

I have never had that happen

I usually just get a text saying if it wasn't me that made the purchase get in touch with them xxx"

this was a few years ago, hopefully they've changed this since.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iv not seen or found one person under 18 on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I for one will leave the site. I'm not prepared to give out that sort of information to use a site such as this"

I feel exactly the same.

In any case, the whole scheme just seems rushed, poorly-thought-out and generally ineffective.

As has been pointed out, the proposed block would NOT cover Twitter, and there are any number of profiles on that site which contain pornographic material...

Likewise, what about people who don't have credit cards? How are they supposed to very their identify?

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