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"How do people find the balance between forgiving people / giving them another chance and just being a total pushover that gets the piss taken again and again ... i dont necessarily mean on fab ... i reckon i was a pushover for too long earlier in life but worry i have now become a bit of a bitch tbh " Imagine you're looking at yourself through the eyes of someone else. How do they see you? | |||
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"I'm far too easy going, but only last week, two friends took the piss out of my age for an entire car journey, I ended up pulling over and telling them to get out, I don't mind a bit of banter but there's only so much I'll take before I snap." God, you aren't old! Hope they begged for forgiveness! | |||
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"How do people find the balance between forgiving people / giving them another chance and just being a total pushover that gets the piss taken again and again ... i dont necessarily mean on fab ... i reckon i was a pushover for too long earlier in life but worry i have now become a bit of a bitch tbh Imagine you're looking at yourself through the eyes of someone else. How do they see you? " Depends who the person is tbh ... but thats already what prompted the post ... but then they are one of the afore mentioned piss takers too so i can live with that But what i maybe realised is ive let lives collective piss takers maybe make me a bit quick to snap at anyone | |||
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"How do people find the balance between forgiving people / giving them another chance and just being a total pushover that gets the piss taken again and again ... i dont necessarily mean on fab ... i reckon i was a pushover for too long earlier in life but worry i have now become a bit of a bitch tbh Imagine you're looking at yourself through the eyes of someone else. How do they see you? Depends who the person is tbh ... but thats already what prompted the post ... but then they are one of the afore mentioned piss takers too so i can live with that But what i maybe realised is ive let lives collective piss takers maybe make me a bit quick to snap at anyone " I do that too. If they are your friends they will understand. You're human same as us all. Try and figure out why they are taking the piss. Maybe they are jealous or having a shit time in their life and displacing that into you. If they are just a dick head, smile sweetly and say nothing. It pisses them off much more as they want a reaction. x | |||
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"I'm far too easy going, but only last week, two friends took the piss out of my age for an entire car journey, I ended up pulling over and telling them to get out, I don't mind a bit of banter but there's only so much I'll take before I snap. God, you aren't old! Hope they begged for forgiveness! " They're both in their 20s, from our fight club, at training again yesterday, it was uncomfortable for them, not forgiven and they've not asked for it so won't be giving them lifts anymore. | |||
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"Honestly if you having issues with people on FAB just ignore them (block) it's really not worth the energy dealing with them. Doubly true for time wasters." | |||
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"I've known people who are so determined not to be a pushover they're cutting ties left, right & centre and taking the stance no more. However they're the ones that also appear to be the unhappiest in life......" Agree. It's easily done though. When someone has hurt you, it can be an automatic reaction to lash out at everyone. It can be difficult finding the middle ground, especially if no-one gives a shit and actually shows they care. But then the people being lashed out at will also start lashing out. | |||
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"I've known people who are so determined not to be a pushover they're cutting ties left, right & centre and taking the stance no more. However they're the ones that also appear to be the unhappiest in life...... Agree. It's easily done though. When someone has hurt you, it can be an automatic reaction to lash out at everyone. It can be difficult finding the middle ground, especially if no-one gives a shit and actually shows they care. But then the people being lashed out at will also start lashing out. " They dont have to have hurt you to piss you off. Also you dont have toy lash out | |||
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"How do people find the balance between forgiving people / giving them another chance and just being a total pushover that gets the piss taken again and again ... i dont necessarily mean on fab ... i reckon i was a pushover for too long earlier in life but worry i have now become a bit of a bitch tbh " On Fab I don't...I drop them without a second thought. In real life it doesn't really happen to me - not because I'm a bitch but I'm confident, assertive and know how to say 'No'. But I have in the past cut ties with a toxic relative and also a good friend, not because their behaviour was affecting me, but it was impacting on my family. I would say that if there's anyone in your life who makes you feel less of a person, takes you for granted, negatively affects how you feel about yourself or uses you to their own ends, then you need to change how you respond to them in order to change their behaviour towards you. Instead of a direct 'No' which by itself is a negative reply (and invites a 'Why not?'), try saying things like 'Actually that doesn't work for me', 'I'm already committed so you'll need to ask someone else', I'm not happy/comfortable/available to do that', 'You've let me down before and I'm not prepared to take that risk again'. Not aggressive, rude or bitchy but firm, polite responses that can be said with a smile. And followed up with an 'I said "No" and I meant it' if they attempt to persuade you otherwise | |||
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"There's only yourself who can stop yourself be a pushover. To be walked over in life you have to lie down and be the doormat. If you don't like something, change it." See i think this is what i did ... and now i look at my reactions sometimes and dont always like how abrupt i have been (generally something i see with hindsight) To the poster who mention there being a middle ground ... this is exactly what i am steuggling to find ... i seem to have gone from one extreme to the other missing the middle completely | |||
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"i don't forgive. i'm laid back enough as it is so if someone takes the piss they really overstepped the mark and i don't forgive them. it doesn't hurt me not to forgive either, they did something wrong and i don't dwell on it but i remember not to trust them again. i don't buy into the bullshit that not forgiving is harmful to yourself, it only is if you dwell on what they did and blame yourself and feel like you have to forgive them. you could google about toxic people and how to deal with them, there'll be loads of different ways to do that depending on what they are doing. you could learn how not to feel guilty about saying no as well maybe? and learn manipulation techniques that people do to make you feel like bad enough to do what they want you to do, once you can see how people can manipulate you it becomes a lot easier to understand them and not to care about what they want. trust is a big deal i think, people need to earn it. if they do not then that's their problem now and shouldn't be yours." I think I've been fortunate never to have anyone toxic 'close enough' in my life to have to deal with them. I know a few but only from a safe distance The only person who really deeply hurt me was a supposedly good friend in my teenage years. I never understood why he did what he did, but I don't feel any bitterness towards him now. I dealt with my anger and feelings of betrayal many years ago, so I think I've forgiven him. I'd happily chat to him if I bumped into him again. | |||
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