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"Should the sales of strong acid be even tighter controlled? Or should the sentances for offenders be much much longer. 10 years just for possession for example. Should be easy to work out who's on a moped with a small bottle of acid in their inside pocket, vs someone on their way back from BandQ with an unopened box of drain cleaner. Why make life difficult for the many just because some kid is a delinquent?" Both; sale should be restricted and sentences should be much longer - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Should the sales of strong acid be even tighter controlled? Or should the sentances for offenders be much much longer. 10 years just for possession for example. Should be easy to work out who's on a moped with a small bottle of acid in their inside pocket, vs someone on their way back from BandQ with an unopened box of drain cleaner. Why make life difficult for the many just because some kid is a delinquent? Both; sale should be restricted and sentences should be much longer - Mrs. J -" Seems ridiculous you can buy sulphuric acid on ebay! I agree. | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct?" I didn't know there was one? Obviously with the Asian "honour" acid attacks that's part of their culture. Society probably shouldn't interfere. But is there a demographic on mopeds? | |||
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"This needs to be knocked on the head asap or else it become the new weapon of choice for many yobs. " True, someone needs a 40 year sentance. | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct?" I did not know there were any demographics. Last night there were five acid attacks in London - Mrs. J - | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. " You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? | |||
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"Should the sales of strong acid be even tighter controlled? Or should the sentances for offenders be much much longer. 10 years just for possession for example. Should be easy to work out who's on a moped with a small bottle of acid in their inside pocket, vs someone on their way back from BandQ with an unopened box of drain cleaner. Why make life difficult for the many just because some kid is a delinquent?" Both. The people who do this are pure evil, and if tighter restrictions and tougher sentences put a stop to acid attacks then it's worth the inconvenience to folk who make genuine purchases. I worked with a lady whose neck, shoulders and chest were horrendously scar_ed from an acid attack, and the physical and mental pain she suffe_ed as a result was awful. Her life was destroyed  | |||
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"This needs to be knocked on the head asap or else it become the new weapon of choice for many yobs. " Completely this. I can't even comprehend that someone would do this to another. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"?" That a serious question?? | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"?" You do realise this is also happening in white neighbourhood's, right!? | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question??" Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.  | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs. "Have you branched out of London or are you just stuck reading the BBC indoors. Happens all over the place. Don't be silly lol | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs. "So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism? Mmm. Part of the problem methinks. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
Have you branched out of London or are you just stuck reading the BBC indoors.
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"?" WTF dude this is not some Alt right website. Assault of any type is not restricted to creed, colour, class or location. It's about violence and assault. Have been stabbed and burgled. Guess what they were white in a p_edominantly white area. And yes a licence should be needed to buy acid. | |||
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" WTF dude this is not some Alt right website. Assault of any type is not restricted to creed, colour, class or location. It's about violence and assault. Have been stabbed and burgled. Guess what they were white in a p_edominantly white area. And yes a licence should be needed to buy acid. " It really is a simple as googling where the majority of these attacks happen and then googling the population demographics of said area. I know facts and truth are deeply offensive and it's your right to be offended, but denying it to be true just makes you look at best, in denial, at worst, thick. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
Have you branched out of London or are you just stuck reading the BBC indoors.
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"Acid is just one of many weapons. The problem is police have been told not to tackle moped crime because if they fall off while the police chase them or if a pedestrian is hit the police can be sued. This is why motorbike crime is up more than 600% this year. Anything can be used as an improvised weapon so do we ban private property and make every item have a licence to purchase? The acid attacks are just one small escalation to the motor bike chrome problem and it won't be solved until the police start tackling it or vigilantes get involved. " No it's because the Police don't have suitable vehicles to chase them with. Samething happened with push bikes Hence why the Police started bike patrols. The MET are setting up anti moped patrols with suitable vehicles. Unfortunately the Police have to react to the threat so they are in a catch-up situation. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism?
Mmm. Part of the problem methinks. "I note you're not responding to my post.... | |||
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"This needs to be knocked on the head asap or else it become the new weapon of choice for many yobs. " It already is 
Purely for the reason that punishment is less than knife carrying | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism?
Mmm. Part of the problem methinks.
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism?
Mmm. Part of the problem methinks.
I note you're not responding to my post...."I didn't say that were "racially driven", just stated the indisputable fact that they happen disproportionately in Asian/Black neighbourhoods, therefore living in one of these said neighbourhoods (I.e Barking, where the lady I was talking to lives) you are far more likely to be a victim. I never said it was Brown on White racism, most of these attacks are Asian on Asian or Black on Black, but obviously you're more likely to be caught up in it if you live in an area where it's happening a lot. | |||
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"You realize car batteries contain acid I suspect, so do you need a licence to buy a battery under your rule? Why not call for teenagers to be locked up from age 12 to 21 just to be certain. Some publicity about the damage acid can do with appropriate sentences for those caught is all that is needed. A shoot to kill arrest policy may also help. " Yes actually I would approve of car battery car being licensed. Most modern car batteries are sealed units anyway so you don't have to top them up. It's not just teenagers using acid that's the issue. Unfortunately a few wrong en have screwed it up for the rest of us. But that's life. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism?
Mmm. Part of the problem methinks.
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I didn't say that were "racially driven", just stated the indisputable fact that they happen disproportionately in Asian/Black neighbourhoods, therefore living in one of these said neighbourhoods (I.e Barking, where the lady I was talking to lives) you are far more likely to be a victim. I never said it was Brown on White racism, most of these attacks are Asian on Asian or Black on Black, but obviously you're more likely to be caught up in it if you live in an area where it's happening a lot."Okay, I was trying to unpick what you were saying as it wasn't clear. So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? | |||
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"You realize car batteries contain acid I suspect, so do you need a licence to buy a battery under your rule? Why not call for teenagers to be locked up from age 12 to 21 just to be certain. Some publicity about the damage acid can do with appropriate sentences for those caught is all that is needed. A shoot to kill arrest policy may also help. Yes actually I would approve of car battery car being licensed. Most modern car batteries are sealed units anyway so you don't have to top them up. It's not just teenagers using acid that's the issue. Unfortunately a few wrong en have screwed it up for the rest of us. But that's life. " Much more likely to be drain cleaner than anything automotive. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? " I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"?" The man who threw the liquid at him was white, so was the teenager who hit him with the baseball bat. Some of his friends are black. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? " No, I'm not. I was trying to understand the intent behind your point. But it simply seems to be "run away!", "hide!", "not my problem!" Which is fine. I guess I'm interested in understanding how we resolve the root causes of the crime and work on addressing it. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? The man who threw the liquid at him was white, so was the teenager who hit him with the baseball bat. Some of his friends are black." Thank you for clarifying that, that's interesting. | |||
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"Plus these kind of attacks aren't just an "East London" thing. They're just as prevalent in Devon and Cornwall, Buckinghamshire, West Wales, Suffolk and the highlands of Scotland! " No, you're wrong, because then it doesn't fit with my personal views and agenda. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No, I'm not. I was trying to understand the intent behind your point. But it simply seems to be "run away!", "hide!", "not my problem!" Which is fine. I guess I'm interested in understanding how we resolve the root causes of the crime and work on addressing it. " Police with no powers. Put a 14 year old away for 40 years and his friends might think twice about it. Acid is just as dangerous to an individual as a gun is imo. | |||
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"I've lived in this area all of my life, in the same road for most of it. Growing up, the thugs, criminals, knife carriers were mostly white and they squirted people with acid in Jif lemon squeezers; beat people with bars and lumps of wood and wore knuckle dusters. The crimes haven't changed, because there are less white people here. My friend's son died after being stabbed by a white boy. White people are criminals too. " | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No, I'm not. I was trying to understand the intent behind your point. But it simply seems to be "run away!", "hide!", "not my problem!" Which is fine. I guess I'm interested in understanding how we resolve the root causes of the crime and work on addressing it. Police with no powers. Put a 14 year old away for 40 years and his friends might think twice about it. Acid is just as dangerous to an individual as a gun is imo." Nods, I'm not disagreeing with that. | |||
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"Plus these kind of attacks aren't just an "East London" thing. They're just as prevalent in Devon and Cornwall, Buckinghamshire, West Wales, Suffolk and the highlands of Scotland! " Well that's just categorically untrue and you wont find any stats to support that claim, as it's absurd. | |||
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"Plus these kind of attacks aren't just an "East London" thing. They're just as prevalent in Devon and Cornwall, Buckinghamshire, West Wales, Suffolk and the highlands of Scotland! No, you're wrong, because then it doesn't fit with my personal views and agenda."  | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? " No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop | |||
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"Plus these kind of attacks aren't just an "East London" thing. They're just as prevalent in Devon and Cornwall, Buckinghamshire, West Wales, Suffolk and the highlands of Scotland! Well that's just categorically untrue and you wont find any stats to support that claim, as it's absurd." Google it like you finely suggested earlier | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop" | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop" If not pretending that black and Asian neighbourhoods in London are no more dangerous than white ones is "racist", then so be it. Unfortunately for you, I have published met crime statistics to support my argument, whereas you just have feelings to support yours. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop If not pretending that black and Asian neighbourhoods in London are no more dangerous than white ones is "racist", then so be it. Unfortunately for you, I have published met crime statistics to support my argument, whereas you just have feelings to support yours." Poorer areas have more crime. Stop the press. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop" Nods. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop If not pretending that black and Asian neighbourhoods in London are no more dangerous than white ones is "racist", then so be it. Unfortunately for you, I have published met crime statistics to support my argument, whereas you just have feelings to support yours. Poorer areas have more crime. Stop the press." They usually have more people too. More people equals more crimes. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop If not pretending that black and Asian neighbourhoods in London are no more dangerous than white ones is "racist", then so be it. Unfortunately for you, I have published met crime statistics to support my argument, whereas you just have feelings to support yours. Poorer areas have more crime. Stop the press." I know, right?! | |||
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"Plus these kind of attacks aren't just an "East London" thing. They're just as prevalent in Devon and Cornwall, Buckinghamshire, West Wales, Suffolk and the highlands of Scotland! Well that's just categorically untrue and you wont find any stats to support that claim, as it's absurd." No crime in Scotland or Cornwall... I'm moving there then.. Oh shit, just checked.. There are attacks on people in those areas.. Knife crime, gun crime, violent robbery.. Shit it happens there too.. Oh well, I may as well stay where I am content in the knowledge I will be killed in a violent attack soon. | |||
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"Plus these kind of attacks aren't just an "East London" thing. They're just as prevalent in Devon and Cornwall, Buckinghamshire, West Wales, Suffolk and the highlands of Scotland! Well that's just categorically untrue and you wont find any stats to support that claim, as it's absurd. Google it like you finely suggested earlier "Yeah, googled it and I'm right and you're wrong, sorry... http://tinypic.com/r/vgs8rr/9 | |||
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"Plus these kind of attacks aren't just an "East London" thing. They're just as prevalent in Devon and Cornwall, Buckinghamshire, West Wales, Suffolk and the highlands of Scotland! Well that's just categorically untrue and you wont find any stats to support that claim, as it's absurd. No crime in Scotland or Cornwall... I'm moving there then.. Oh shit, just checked.. There are attacks on people in those areas.. Knife crime, gun crime, violent robbery.. Shit it happens there too.. Oh well, I may as well stay where I am content in the knowledge I will be killed in a violent attack soon. " Cornwall -- Andreas Christopheros, 29, was left blind in one eye after David Phillips, 49, from Hastings, Sussex, assaulted him with acid at his home in Truro, Cornwall. Scotland -- William Burns, 56, threw sulphuric acid into Russell Findlay's face after turning up at his door disguised as a postman on 23 December 2015 in Glasgow. Acid attacks happen in Cornwall and Scotland too. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop If not pretending that black and Asian neighbourhoods in London are no more dangerous than white ones is "racist", then so be it. Unfortunately for you, I have published met crime statistics to support my argument, whereas you just have feelings to support yours." Do you have them for the UK? Glasgow Was /is the UKs most violent city yet is 92% white. See where statistics get you. | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct? I didn't know there was one? Obviously with the Asian "honour" acid attacks that's part of their culture. Society probably shouldn't interfere. But is there a demographic on mopeds?" Sorry i would just like to point out this is not a part of my culture or any other culture. It is mindless people that do this kind of thing | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop If not pretending that black and Asian neighbourhoods in London are no more dangerous than white ones is "racist", then so be it. Unfortunately for you, I have published met crime statistics to support my argument, whereas you just have feelings to support yours. Do you have them for the UK? Glasgow Was /is the UKs most violent city yet is 92% white. See where statistics get you. " See the map I linked above. End of debate. | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" " No, they're not. Making comments focused on ethnicity and race and colour in a way that indicates no violent crime (acid attacks in this discussion) happen in white areas *is* racist and factually incorrect. It's easy to reframe your point after the fact. If your post was unintentionally racist at the start, maybe perhaps be clearer in future, communicate better.  | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" You look and sound familiar; haven't you been banned from here several times before?" Yes, he has. | |||
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" So you're saying, again reclarify if you're not, that because these attacks are happening in places where there is more cultural and racial diversity then white people should get out and get safe in all white areas? And by extrapolation of your point, again correct me if I'm wrong, you're suggesting it's just an "people of colour issue", and for reasons of safety white people should segregate themselves, away from the "bad contingent"? I'm saying it's probably best to not live in an area that has abnormally high rates of violent crime if you don't want your kids to be a victim of it. What's confusing you? Are you suggesting that offending liberals by choosing a less diverse area with a much lower rate of crime should be a greater concern to somebody than their own safety and that of their kids? No you said ' thought of moving to a white neighbourhood ' therefore raising the issue of colour and ethnicity. You never mention crime levels. You made a racist comment. Full stop If not pretending that black and Asian neighbourhoods in London are no more dangerous than white ones is "racist", then so be it. Unfortunately for you, I have published met crime statistics to support my argument, whereas you just have feelings to support yours. Do you have them for the UK? Glasgow Was /is the UKs most violent city yet is 92% white. See where statistics get you. See the map I linked above. End of debate." Your on the wrong site. You need the alt right with your views. You started with a racist comment and continued in that fashion. | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" " Tempting extrapolation of what appears to be simple logic isn't it? The problem with your analogy is that in the leafier suburbs where Asian & Black doctors, academics and business owners live and fraternise with their white contemporaries the racial crime 'demographic' as you call it isn't replicated, in other words blacks and Asians don't have a propensity towards violent crime. The areas you highlight have high population densities, poverty and poor education is a determinant of crime (as another poster pointed out), although it would be wrong and unhelpful to suggest everyone who's poor and poorly educated is likely to commit crime...would you mind disclosing your own antecedence, you appear to be protesting too much. | |||
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" Your on the wrong site. You need the alt right with your views. You started with a racist comment and continued in that fashion. " I made a claim and provided irrefutable evidence to back it up, you screaming buzzwords like "racist" and "alt-right" isn't isn't counter-argument, sorry. You lose. | |||
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""We've lost the argument, ban him!" It's not about your differing opinion. And no, your 'argument' just proves exactly what I said - poorer areas have more crime. You'll have to do a bit better than that. " And they had more crime when they were p_edominantly white. | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct? I didn't know there was one? Obviously with the Asian "honour" acid attacks that's part of their culture. Society probably shouldn't interfere. But is there a demographic on mopeds?" I don't agree, acid attacks cannot be justified by saying it's part of their culture. This is 2017, there's no place in our society for "Asian honour attacks" | |||
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""We've lost the argument, ban him!" It's not about your differing opinion. And no, your 'argument' just proves exactly what I said - poorer areas have more crime. You'll have to do a bit better than that. And they had more crime when they were p_edominantly white. " Careful, you'll make stompy stompy pout pouts happen! | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct? I didn't know there was one? Obviously with the Asian "honour" acid attacks that's part of their culture. Society probably shouldn't interfere. But is there a demographic on mopeds? I don't agree, acid attacks cannot be justified by saying it's part of their culture. This is 2017, there's no place in our society for "Asian honour attacks"" Not fucking part of our culture !!! | |||
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" Your on the wrong site. You need the alt right with your views. You started with a racist comment and continued in that fashion. I made a claim and provided irrefutable evidence to back it up, you screaming buzzwords like "racist" and "alt-right" isn't isn't counter-argument, sorry. You lose." No you made a statement infiring colour. That is racist - simple. Blunt and crude use of 'statistics ' actually show you don't understand them. Crime rates in the U.K. were extremely high in the 1700/1800/1900's so they brought in Transportation yet the population was 99.99% white. Where does that leave your heat map theory? | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" Tempting extrapolation of what appears to be simple logic isn't it? The problem with your analogy is that in the leafier suburbs where Asian & Black doctors, academics and business owners live and fraternise with their white contemporaries the racial crime 'demographic' as you call it isn't replicated, in other words blacks and Asians don't have a propensity towards violent crime. The areas you highlight have high population densities, poverty and poor education is a determinant of crime (as another poster pointed out), although it would be wrong and unhelpful to suggest everyone who's poor and poorly educated is likely to commit crime...would you mind disclosing your own antecedence, you appear to be protesting too much." I dont disagree with any of that. Nowhere have I said "blacks and Asians are best avoided" - what I said was, "areas with abnormally high rates of violent crime are best avoided" - I would say the same if these areas were majority white (in Liverpool and Glasgow, they are) but we were talking about London, where the areas with the highest amount of violent crime are black/Asian areas. People then went off on one about me daring to mention that fact. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism?
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" Your on the wrong site. You need the alt right with your views. You started with a racist comment and continued in that fashion. I made a claim and provided irrefutable evidence to back it up, you screaming buzzwords like "racist" and "alt-right" isn't isn't counter-argument, sorry. You lose. No you made a statement infiring colour. That is racist - simple. Blunt and crude use of 'statistics ' actually show you don't understand them. Crime rates in the U.K. were extremely high in the 1700/1800/1900's so they brought in Transportation yet the population was 99.99% white. Where does that leave your heat map theory? " This is the 21st century, not the 18th, 19th or 20th century. Things change and one has to look at the here and now Having said that, most Asian areas are more peaceful than elsewhere - Mrs. J - | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism?
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" Tempting extrapolation of what appears to be simple logic isn't it? The problem with your analogy is that in the leafier suburbs where Asian & Black doctors, academics and business owners live and fraternise with their white contemporaries the racial crime 'demographic' as you call it isn't replicated, in other words blacks and Asians don't have a propensity towards violent crime. The areas you highlight have high population densities, poverty and poor education is a determinant of crime (as another poster pointed out), although it would be wrong and unhelpful to suggest everyone who's poor and poorly educated is likely to commit crime...would you mind disclosing your own antecedence, you appear to be protesting too much. I dont disagree with any of that. Nowhere have I said "blacks and Asians are best avoided" - what I said was, "areas with abnormally high rates of violent crime are best avoided" - I would say the same if these areas were majority white (in Liverpool and Glasgow, they are) but we were talking about London, where the areas with the highest amount of violent crime are black/Asian areas. People then went off on one about me daring to mention that fact." No no no no no You said ' have you thought of moving to a white neighbourhood' therefore infiring non white areas are more violent. That's what people drew the attention too. Stop trying to dodge your statement | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" Tempting extrapolation of what appears to be simple logic isn't it? The problem with your analogy is that in the leafier suburbs where Asian & Black doctors, academics and business owners live and fraternise with their white contemporaries the racial crime 'demographic' as you call it isn't replicated, in other words blacks and Asians don't have a propensity towards violent crime. The areas you highlight have high population densities, poverty and poor education is a determinant of crime (as another poster pointed out), although it would be wrong and unhelpful to suggest everyone who's poor and poorly educated is likely to commit crime...would you mind disclosing your own antecedence, you appear to be protesting too much." Excellent post | |||
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"Yet the OP who said that acid attacks were part of Muslim culture has managed to dodge the 'racist' label. "He said nothing about muslim culture he said asian culture | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J -" It's their way of shutting down a debate when presented with facts and they have no way to counter them because they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. | |||
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"Anyway.... should it be more difficult for you to unblock your sink, just because there's a dozen little scroats out there wasting oxygen? I say no. I say lock them up for a long long time. Maybe that will stop their peers thinking its ok.(whatever colour they are)." Well, don't put rubbish down the sink
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"Anyway.... should it be more difficult for you to unblock your sink, just because there's a dozen little scroats out there wasting oxygen? I say no. I say lock them up for a long long time. Maybe that will stop their peers thinking its ok.(whatever colour they are). Well, don't put rubbish down the sink
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" WTF dude this is not some Alt right website. Assault of any type is not restricted to creed, colour, class or location. It's about violence and assault. Have been stabbed and burgled. Guess what they were white in a p_edominantly white area. And yes a licence should be needed to buy acid. It really is a simple as googling where the majority of these attacks happen and then googling the population demographics of said area. I know facts and truth are deeply offensive and it's your right to be offended, but denying it to be true just makes you look at best, in denial, at worst, thick." Oh my god he has Google so he must be right . Everyone lock themselves inside | |||
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"What sort of life have people lived that they think throwing acid over another is ok? Why are we failing people in such a massive way?" I blame the parent. | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct? I didn't know there was one? Obviously with the Asian "honour" acid attacks that's part of their culture. Society probably shouldn't interfere. But is there a demographic on mopeds?" Are you really saying that acid attacks are ok so long as it is part of their culture? | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct? I didn't know there was one? Obviously with the Asian "honour" acid attacks that's part of their culture. Society probably shouldn't interfere. But is there a demographic on mopeds? Are you really saying that acid attacks are ok so long as it is part of their culture? " Of course I'm not. But i have heard that argument used in support of female genital mutilation. | |||
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"You realize car batteries contain acid I suspect, so do you need a licence to buy a battery under your rule? Why not call for teenagers to be locked up from age 12 to 21 just to be certain. Some publicity about the damage acid can do with appropriate sentences for those caught is all that is needed. A shoot to kill arrest policy may also help. Yes actually I would approve of car battery car being licensed. Most modern car batteries are sealed units anyway so you don't have to top them up. It's not just teenagers using acid that's the issue. Unfortunately a few wrong en have screwed it up for the rest of us. But that's life. " Cars can be stolen and the battery acid drained, so making it harder to buy car batteries is not really useful, and potentially makes the issue worse. My real point is acid and alkali are common use products all around us. Attempting to restrict the supply is not a viable solution. Long harsh sentences would work but I fear TV / Internet make these crimes "cool" and kids do them without thinking of the victim. We already banned guns from all the legitimate sports / collectors, knives are now banned despite them being a useful tool. Banning lead acid batteries and hund_eds of cleaning products is not a good plan. | |||
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" WTF dude this is not some Alt right website. Assault of any type is not restricted to creed, colour, class or location. It's about violence and assault. Have been stabbed and burgled. Guess what they were white in a p_edominantly white area. And yes a licence should be needed to buy acid. It really is a simple as googling where the majority of these attacks happen and then googling the population demographics of said area. I know facts and truth are deeply offensive and it's your right to be offended, but denying it to be true just makes you look at best, in denial, at worst, thick." How about Googling the perpetrators and the victims... instead of the area. | |||
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"I've no clue what sales restrictions there are on acid but it would seem reasonable for very dangerous stuff to be controlled. If there's an underlying reason for this, it should be addressed too. Often penalties have a minor part to play but appropriate penalties should apply." As a rule acetic acid is much easier to buy than lysergic acid... many acids are used commonly sulphuric (batteries) and phosphoric (descaller) often hydrochloric acid is sold as drain cleaner, can also be used on limescale. Many cleaners are alkali which can be just as destructive to soft tissue. Sales restrictions are typically on quantity in a package, sometimes on strength. | |||
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"Acid attacks are part of gang culture more than anything. I first heard about them years ago from talking to a Jamaican friend. Its pretty big in Jamaican gang culture apparently. You see a lot of the yardies bearing the scars from it But yeah these kinda crimes where you are purposely trying to disfigure people need really harsh sentences " Interesting | |||
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"Are we just going to ignore the demographics p_edominantly carrying out the attacks for the sake of being politically correct? I didn't know there was one? Obviously with the Asian "honour" acid attacks that's part of their culture. Society probably shouldn't interfere. But is there a demographic on mopeds? I don't agree, acid attacks cannot be justified by saying it's part of their culture. This is 2017, there's no place in our society for "Asian honour attacks" Not fucking part of our culture !!!" Not part of your culture, I believe you... I'm sure you are a very pleasant, morally upstanding person like most of us here. However, it does happen and it is partly due to the lower standing and opinion held of women in certain areas of the world, where women are second class and their only role is to serve men.... This outdated male chauvinistic opinion is being less and less tolerated as the countries in question become more liberal in their religious and political views but unfortunately still does go unpunished... It is an unfortunate fact that genital mutilation and the reported so called honour attacks are limited to certain racial groups. Like it or not, this is a fact and it doesn't make it right. | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - It's their way of shutting down a debate when presented with facts and they have no way to counter them because they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. " The 'facts' have been counte_ed ad nauseum, the unequivocal fact is that you're not prepa_ed to consider rational argument challenging your invective. | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group." Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group. Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J -" Stating facts is indeed *not* racist, however that doesn't mean the person stating them isn't necessarily a racist. Incidentally, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your definition of the term. | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group. Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J -" racism is: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. and the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. so, wtf? science creating more accurate results does not make anyone a loony. neither does being PC. right wing, christian kkk are racist. right wing neo-nazis are too. sorry but your right wing people have a lot more branches that are loony than the left have. looking worse from your side than this one. | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group. Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J - Stating facts is indeed *not* racist, however that doesn't mean the person stating them isn't necessarily a racist. Incidentally, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with your definition of the term." You are more than welcome to disagree What is *your* definition of a racist? On this site, I have read that a white person who does not want to have sex with a black person, is racist. Now is that the loony left or is that the far-loony-left?
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group. Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J - racism is: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. and the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. so, wtf? science creating more accurate results does not make anyone a loony. neither does being PC. right wing, christian kkk are racist. right wing neo-nazis are too. sorry but your right wing people have a lot more branches that are loony than the left have. looking worse from your side than this one." Who told you that I am right wing? I happen to think that all 'wings' are stupid - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group. Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J - racism is: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. and the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. so, wtf? science creating more accurate results does not make anyone a loony. neither does being PC. right wing, christian kkk are racist. right wing neo-nazis are too. sorry but your right wing people have a lot more branches that are loony than the left have. looking worse from your side than this one. Who told you that I am right wing? I happen to think that all 'wings' are stupid - Mrs. J -" the fact you think there's a loony left. plus you do come off as conservative. maybe you're just misinformed? you don't seem that unintelligent though. | |||
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"You are more than welcome to disagree What is *your* definition of a racist? On this site, I have read that a white person who does not want to have sex with a black person, is racist. Now is that the loony left or is that the far-loony-left?
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Pretty sure social or religious views have never been a feature of the racist / preference threads, so they would be equally loony left and ridiculous right. "Don't tell me that people have religious views on who they will have sex with
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group. Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J - racism is: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. and the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. so, wtf? science creating more accurate results does not make anyone a loony. neither does being PC. right wing, christian kkk are racist. right wing neo-nazis are too. sorry but your right wing people have a lot more branches that are loony than the left have. looking worse from your side than this one. Who told you that I am right wing? I happen to think that all 'wings' are stupid - Mrs. J - the fact you think there's a loony left. plus you do come off as conservative. maybe you're just misinformed? you don't seem that unintelligent though." I am conservative in my behaviour, as much as one can be 'conservative' on a swingers website. But that is not my political leaning. At the moment, the loony right are in government
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J - ..and in equal measure the racists, homophobes, ageists denounce their detractors by describing them as the 'loony left'. The cap may or may not fit in any group. Nope; the loony left are exactly that; lunatics Racist means when someone beats the crap out of someone else because they are a certain race or they are bar_ed from employment because of their race. Stating facts is *not* racist. That was just one example Black people have a very different genetic makeup; so much so, that their eGFR needs to be multiplied by 1.21 to get meaningful data. The loony left will call that being racist as they are being treated differently - Mrs. J - racism is: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. and the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. so, wtf? science creating more accurate results does not make anyone a loony. neither does being PC. right wing, christian kkk are racist. right wing neo-nazis are too. sorry but your right wing people have a lot more branches that are loony than the left have. looking worse from your side than this one. Who told you that I am right wing? I happen to think that all 'wings' are stupid - Mrs. J - the fact you think there's a loony left. plus you do come off as conservative. maybe you're just misinformed? you don't seem that unintelligent though. I am conservative in my behaviour, as much as one can be 'conservative' on a swingers website. But that is not my political leaning. At the moment, the loony right are in government
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" You are more than welcome to disagree What is *your* definition of a racist? On this site, I have read that a white person who does not want to have sex with a black person, is racist. Now is that the loony left or is that the far-loony-left?
- Mrs. J -"To be honest I think it's very difficult to form a definitive view of what a racist, all of us are prone to subconcious bias affecting all kinds of different groups, so I guess it's how we acknowledge that when challenged that's important. I certainly don't believe the anti-racist message is solely pedalled by the loony left, during my lifetime some of the most pernicious forms of racism I've encounte_ed have been propagated by individuals who would regard themselves as progressive socialists when in fact they hate everybody. So to answer your final point-is it racist for a white person to not want to have sex with a black one? Not in itself of course, however I personally wouldn't want to interact with anyone who had a narrow social view (whether black or white), by the same token I've received messages from the male of a couple asking to meet because their fetish is black men and their wife would 'never run off with one'..weird world isn't it? | |||
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"You can have a life sentence or 20 year sentence,until the judges start to implement the sentences,then they mean nothing. It's very,very rare a judge will use the full force of the law." Mitigation on the sentence is a good thing, gives judges the ability to factor in provocation or other relevant facts. Plus it makes sense to sentence for 10 expecting 5 with good behavior as it gives prisoners some motive to behave well while in prison. In reality even a 2 month prison sentence is a potential life sentence to unemployment, social miss fit and reoffending. But it's the best we have. | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"? That a serious question?? Shit, silly racist me forgot acid, baseball bat and knife attacks are just as common in Richmond and Primrose Hill as they are in Barking and Mile End. Apologies. Ffs.
So the point you're making is that if racially driven attacks are happening then you're advising the whites to get out and get to safety in a white area? Not, that perhaps we should stand up against racism?
Mmm. Part of the problem methinks.
I note you're not responding to my post....
I didn't say that were "racially driven", just stated the indisputable fact that they happen disproportionately in Asian/Black neighbourhoods, therefore living in one of these said neighbourhoods (I.e Barking, where the lady I was talking to lives) you are far more likely to be a victim. I never said it was Brown on White racism, most of these attacks are Asian on Asian or Black on Black, but obviously you're more likely to be caught up in it if you live in an area where it's happening a lot."Probably has a lot more to do with it being a deprived area where yob/ gang culture is more often seen than it having anything to do with black / asians In Scotland we call these people neds ... no matter what colour they are | |||
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"Racist, homophobic, ageist are overused terms. The loony left use these more frequently than a "good morning" - Mrs. J -" Well i if i listen to all the crap i read online my vote makes me right wing i believe? ... so can i say he is racist because im not a lefty? a term being over used does not mean it was wrong ... his post was racist ... nothing to do with the OP and has resulted in the whole thread being derailed | |||
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"My grandson had some thrown at him on his way home one evening. Most of it missed fortunately. It's the weapon of the day and can be used from feet away, instead of close up, like a knife; which he's also been attacked with, as well as a baseball bat. You thought of moving to a white neighbourhood? Or are the three aerious assaults on your grandson a small price to pay for being "diverse" and "inclusive"?" Official record collected since 2010 do not include ethnicity of "perpetrators" and victims but do tell us that most are men, of those ethnicity was recorded were majority were white. Six in 10 were male, while 71% described their ethnic origin as white British, the figures show (white British, according to the 2011 census, accounts for 80% of the British population in England and Wales). Globally, an estimated 80% of victims are women. | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" You look and sound familiar; haven't you been banned from here several times before?" Yeah, he's gone from whinging about fat women to being racist. I'm wondering how he's going to reinvent himself next!? | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" You look and sound familiar; haven't you been banned from here several times before? Yeah, he's gone from whinging about fat women to being racist. I'm wondering how he's going to reinvent himself next!? " He does certainly sound very bitter about life. Sigh... | |||
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""Violent crime heat maps are racist!!!" You look and sound familiar; haven't you been banned from here several times before? Yeah, he's gone from whinging about fat women to being racist. I'm wondering how he's going to reinvent himself next!? He does certainly sound very bitter about life. Sigh..." I'm sure that a psychologist might have an interesting time ascertaining why a heterosexual man might come onto a website that facilitates the arrangement of casual sex and proceeds to render himself as unattractive as possible..... | |||
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" knowing you are about to throw acid into that persons face and look them in the eye while you perform such a horrific act is a no no,if they want to act inhuman then why should we,three square meals a day for forty years fuck that,i say cut off there fucking hands,wont throw acid again,queue the do gooders....." Nope. They'd claim disability cheques because it would limit their ability to work. I agree. I don't want to pay for them to be locked away. Capital punishment could be too extreme though if they are just young and foolish. Maybe castration? | |||
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"Just followed all the messages from all you lovely people,all got your opinions and views wether its raciast,religion,gang culture or whatever Me am from Liverpool,you make of life what ever way you decide,you basically get on with whoever lives either side or life gets hard but walking up to someone knowing you are about to throw acid into that persons face and look them in the eye while you perform such a horrific act is a no no,if they want to act inhuman then why should we,three square meals a day for forty years fuck that,i say cut off there fucking hands,wont throw acid again,queue the do gooders....." | |||
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