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"ur having a frickin laugh aint u" you obviously have a strong _iew , tell us what you think . | |||
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"i think all this PC bullshit gets taken to far these dayz. and while it was initially put in place to make the world a better place, its now just 1 big clusterfuck thats harming it " I totally agree with you . the normal everyday banter and interaction between the sexes is now such a minefield noone dare say anything incase they get carpeted . office life is such a sterile place now i wonder how any work gets done . | |||
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"In his day he had his place in the world but he wouldn't fit in today in the same way that Jim Davidson's jokes are innappropriate. I liked him though, liked his 'Angels' even better though. " i may be inclined to agree if it wasnt for the fact that every week on shows like loose women , they have a guy or guys often , paraded in their briefs and all the panel and studio audience cheer and cream their knickers and its all considered just harmless fun . i dont get why thats ok in this new enlighened era . | |||
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"I think benny hill was crude and totally unfunny. " i think u should lighten up | |||
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"I think benny hill was crude and totally unfunny. i think u should lighten up " I don't think belittling a poster makes your _iew any more correct or theirs any less valuable. It's quite easy to notice the Benny Hill fans. | |||
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"I think benny hill was crude and totally unfunny. i think u should lighten up " Perhaps you should try a mature approach and allow people to voice their own opinion: stated without irony! I personally found Benny Hill funny. However it wouldn't be appropriate today as humour has "advanced". The same way, for example, most children today wouldn't enjoy programmes like Little House on the Prairie followed by a game of Ludo! If you see what I mean. | |||
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"if u think my comment is belittling u need a chill pill urself granny " I'm chilled. I repeat. There is no need to make comments about others to make your opinon known. | |||
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"picture it : Granny drsssed as a sexy police woman with a rolling pin , chasing sbaybay round and round field . thats killing me . " I'll save it for chasing sommat worth catching x | |||
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"i havent made any snide comments. this is exactly the problem ive addressed. total over-reaction. " For OVER reaction - look to your own personal comments to others. Make your opinon known without the personal comments. It isn't difficult. | |||
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"We live in different times now but i can remember laughing my ass off at benny hill . Those scetches with him leading a bunch of men in single file ,chasing a leggy young actress in her underwear were so funny . he usually got his face slapped or the frying pan in the face anyway . All that is now considered offensive and sexist . Guilty or not Guilty ?" Ringmaster I don't see that the question can be answered simply. Benny and his comedy style have to be seen in time and place. I never missed an episode if i could help it. I laughed like hell and loved the chase. It was no worse no better than sea side postcards. It became popular to look with disdain at this type of comedy as time moved on and politics changed. I'll defend as far as I can the changes in favour of allowing women into society as human beings rather than sex objects. I'll defend any woman's desire to be as sexually free as she wants to be without being branded a slut. Which - despite so called 'enlightened' thinking continues to this day. Most of the men here wouldn't use this as a wife pool. Too many sluts about. If Benny was repeated now I'd watch for old times sake and probably find it very corny and unfunny and not too distasteful. I'm fairly P.C. and the only sadness i have about P.C is that it is needed to support those that are othewise held down by the bullying weak in society that don't like others having a say. Witness comments on this thread to those that want to voice an opposing idea. I don't see the difference between Benny Hill and much of today's comedy. He was more slapstick and that's old hat now but sex pervades all comedy , drama , news everything. For me the difference now is that women have so many roles in comedy. Whereas in Benny's time if you were pretty you were sexy and chased. If you were an ugly battleaxe there'd be a different part for you - like tax inspector or sommat but you were only there for ridicule in any case. No leading parts for women other than temptress , easy target or battleaxe. I think he was singled out. It's silly to try and judge it out of it's era. Without the P.C brigade and their forebears women still would still be _iewed as servants without ability or aspiration. | |||
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"In his day he had his place in the world but he wouldn't fit in today in the same way that Jim Davidson's jokes are innappropriate. I liked him though, liked his 'Angels' even better though. i may be inclined to agree if it wasnt for the fact that every week on shows like loose women , they have a guy or guys often , paraded in their briefs and all the panel and studio audience cheer and cream their knickers and its all considered just harmless fun . i dont get why thats ok in this new enlighened era ." Because they are not making fun of the 'sexual figure' as Benny Hill did | |||
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"yeh whatever. if ur that easily offended by a harmless comment maybe a forums the wrong place for you. im done with this its not even worth arguing over lol " ta ta then. | |||
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"In his day he had his place in the world but he wouldn't fit in today in the same way that Jim Davidson's jokes are innappropriate. I liked him though, liked his 'Angels' even better though. i may be inclined to agree if it wasnt for the fact that every week on shows like loose women , they have a guy or guys often , paraded in their briefs and all the panel and studio audience cheer and cream their knickers and its all considered just harmless fun . i dont get why thats ok in this new enlighened era ." It's not as far as im concerened. I hate loose women. Simply loved it at the outset but it got really dumbed down with obnoxious idiots like Colleen. This programe stinks - the women on it stink and what they do for women stinks. I think ridiculing of men is allowed becuase women are still _iewed as 'weaker' and 'harmless' and therefore the man should be able to take it. It's a bit like all the stupid ads on t.v that ridicule men cooking or cleaning. It's accepted in society too where women grope men and think it's okay simply because they are women. It's punishable in reality but a man has to laugh it off and pretend he doesn't mind even if he finds them repulsive. It would be a very strong man who complained officially. I wish more would. | |||
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"We live in different times now but i can remember laughing my ass off at benny hill . Those scetches with him leading a bunch of men in single file ,chasing a leggy young actress in her underwear were so funny . he usually got his face slapped or the frying pan in the face anyway . All that is now considered offensive and sexist . Guilty or not Guilty ? Ringmaster I don't see that the question can be answered simply. Benny and his comedy style have to be seen in time and place. I never missed an episode if i could help it. I laughed like hell and loved the chase. It was no worse no better than sea side postcards. It became popular to look with disdain at this type of comedy as time moved on and politics changed. I'll defend as far as I can the changes in favour of allowing women into society as human beings rather than sex objects. I'll defend any woman's desire to be as sexually free as she wants to be without being branded a slut. Which - despite so called 'enlightened' thinking continues to this day. Most of the men here wouldn't use this as a wife pool. Too many sluts about. If Benny was repeated now I'd watch for old times sake and probably find it very corny and unfunny and not too distasteful. I'm fairly P.C. and the only sadness i have about P.C is that it is needed to support those that are othewise held down by the bullying weak in society that don't like others having a say. Witness comments on this thread to those that want to voice an opposing idea. I don't see the difference between Benny Hill and much of today's comedy. He was more slapstick and that's old hat now but sex pervades all comedy , drama , news everything. For me the difference now is that women have so many roles in comedy. Whereas in Benny's time if you were pretty you were sexy and chased. If you were an ugly battleaxe there'd be a different part for you - like tax inspector or sommat but you were only there for ridicule in any case. No leading parts for women other than temptress , easy target or battleaxe. I think he was singled out. It's silly to try and judge it out of it's era. Without the P.C brigade and their forebears women still would still be _iewed as servants without ability or aspiration. " Thanks Granny and I agree with almost everything you say . its a pity that women in general feel threatened by his type of silly humor rather than seeing it for what it is . I for one wish more women would stand up and realize the real power that they weald .Us men are poor feeble mortals compared to the girls adn almost every endeavour us men make is in a pursute of impressing you girls . women do rule the world so why arent they thick skinned enough to laugh this stuff off . i make the same argument when it come to racialism . blacks should also recognize their power and strength and stand up and realize their own potential . so what if bernard manning makes a few off colour jokes (ha , see what i did there ) its no problem if you have that confidence and belief in yourself , no one can spoil that for you . | |||
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"We live in different times now but i can remember laughing my ass off at benny hill . Those scetches with him leading a bunch of men in single file ,chasing a leggy young actress in her underwear were so funny . he usually got his face slapped or the frying pan in the face anyway . All that is now considered offensive and sexist . Guilty or not Guilty ? Ringmaster I don't see that the question can be answered simply. Benny and his comedy style have to be seen in time and place. I never missed an episode if i could help it. I laughed like hell and loved the chase. It was no worse no better than sea side postcards. It became popular to look with disdain at this type of comedy as time moved on and politics changed. I'll defend as far as I can the changes in favour of allowing women into society as human beings rather than sex objects. I'll defend any woman's desire to be as sexually free as she wants to be without being branded a slut. Which - despite so called 'enlightened' thinking continues to this day. Most of the men here wouldn't use this as a wife pool. Too many sluts about. If Benny was repeated now I'd watch for old times sake and probably find it very corny and unfunny and not too distasteful. I'm fairly P.C. and the only sadness i have about P.C is that it is needed to support those that are othewise held down by the bullying weak in society that don't like others having a say. Witness comments on this thread to those that want to voice an opposing idea. I don't see the difference between Benny Hill and much of today's comedy. He was more slapstick and that's old hat now but sex pervades all comedy , drama , news everything. For me the difference now is that women have so many roles in comedy. Whereas in Benny's time if you were pretty you were sexy and chased. If you were an ugly battleaxe there'd be a different part for you - like tax inspector or sommat but you were only there for ridicule in any case. No leading parts for women other than temptress , easy target or battleaxe. I think he was singled out. It's silly to try and judge it out of it's era. Without the P.C brigade and their forebears women still would still be _iewed as servants without ability or aspiration. Thanks Granny and I agree with almost everything you say . its a pity that women in general feel threatened by his type of silly humor rather than seeing it for what it is . I for one wish more women would stand up and realize the real power that they weald .Us men are poor feeble mortals compared to the girls adn almost every endeavour us men make is in a pursute of impressing you girls . women do rule the world so why arent they thick skinned enough to laugh this stuff off . i make the same argument when it come to racialism . blacks should also recognize their power and strength and stand up and realize their own potential . so what if bernard manning makes a few off colour jokes (ha , see what i did there ) its no problem if you have that confidence and belief in yourself , no one can spoil that for you . " Woah, Woah , Woah ........ 'Women in general' do NOT feel threatened by this. As for seeing it 'as it is'. It can be seen as a stereotyping hindrance to the sexes actually working together without one sex thinking they are superior over the other. Your comment that 'men are feeble mortals' compared to women is sycophancy at it's most vivid. What is very telling is the use of 'men' ( adult ) for males and 'girls' ( child ) for females. If women rule the world - why are the majority of powerful positions held by men? Why aren't there more child care facilities to enable women to earn their own money ? Why aren't sanitary towels free like condoms? ( okay that was tongue in cheek ) I can't even begin to comment on your 'rallying call' to blacks. Do you know Bernard Manning hasn't been popular for at least 20 years and has been dead for three ? I envisiage a lot of youngsters ( foolish enough to venture in here ) going ..... Who? Millions of strong , powerful , inspiring blacks around and yet people continue to refer to them as in need of saving from Bernard Manning. Oh ... incidentally ..... the P.C brigade and similar causes.. didn't they start something similar that is still changing this oooooooo decades ago? | |||
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"In his day he had his place in the world but he wouldn't fit in today in the same way that Jim Davidson's jokes are innappropriate. I liked him though, liked his 'Angels' even better though. " Jim Davidsons jokes are unfunny...i mean a poor west indian accent and saying nick nick! He doesnt fit in today cos he is crap! | |||
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"We live in different times now but i can remember laughing my ass off at benny hill . Those scetches with him leading a bunch of men in single file ,chasing a leggy young actress in her underwear were so funny . he usually got his face slapped or the frying pan in the face anyway . All that is now considered offensive and sexist . Guilty or not Guilty ?" never liked him | |||
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"I used to laugh at him too .... he soon got very unfunny though... same with Freddie thingy the scouse bloke.... Two working class men who couldn't handle the praise, the fame or the money. Incidentally both highly sexist in their treatment of women." But then so were the pythons, Cleese writes very well of the way he cringes now at the fact the woman in their act(name escapes me) was a talented comedienne who they used for tit gags. However the important fact is he,and the others, developed their outlook,grew, and produced great female comic roles.It is important when we look at the past we remember context. The problem i have with Davidson or Chubby Brown is there act has not changed.There values are not based on different times but genuine prejudice. Consider les dawson, whose drag act showed a genuine positive _iew of the women who brought him up. | |||
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"I've given up....... Your logic goes...... Men have the jobs and the power. Pretty women can marry them and go in a big car. Therefore women rule the world. I have no words and certainly not sufficient time. Thanks for the banter. " Thanks Ganny And also a big thanks to everyone else that also chipped into the debate even though we slightly strayed off topic . i'll give anyone else the last word if anyone else wants to finish this one off . | |||
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"We live in different times now but i can remember laughing my ass off at benny hill . Those scetches with him leading a bunch of men in single file ,chasing a leggy young actress in her underwear were so funny . he usually got his face slapped or the frying pan in the face anyway . All that is now considered offensive and sexist . Guilty or not Guilty ? Ringmaster I don't see that the question can be answered simply. Benny and his comedy style have to be seen in time and place. I never missed an episode if i could help it. I laughed like hell and loved the chase. It was no worse no better than sea side postcards. It became popular to look with disdain at this type of comedy as time moved on and politics changed. I'll defend as far as I can the changes in favour of allowing women into society as human beings rather than sex objects. I'll defend any woman's desire to be as sexually free as she wants to be without being branded a slut. Which - despite so called 'enlightened' thinking continues to this day. Most of the men here wouldn't use this as a wife pool. Too many sluts about. If Benny was repeated now I'd watch for old times sake and probably find it very corny and unfunny and not too distasteful. I'm fairly P.C. and the only sadness i have about P.C is that it is needed to support those that are othewise held down by the bullying weak in society that don't like others having a say. Witness comments on this thread to those that want to voice an opposing idea. I don't see the difference between Benny Hill and much of today's comedy. He was more slapstick and that's old hat now but sex pervades all comedy , drama , news everything. For me the difference now is that women have so many roles in comedy. Whereas in Benny's time if you were pretty you were sexy and chased. If you were an ugly battleaxe there'd be a different part for you - like tax inspector or sommat but you were only there for ridicule in any case. No leading parts for women other than temptress , easy target or battleaxe. I think he was singled out. It's silly to try and judge it out of it's era. Without the P.C brigade and their forebears women still would still be _iewed as servants without ability or aspiration. " Well summed up Granny, it's not as simple as guilty or not guilty. | |||
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" Thanks Granny and I agree with almost everything you say . its a pity that women in general feel threatened by his type of silly humor rather than seeing it for what it is . I for one wish more women would stand up and realize the real power that they weald .Us men are poor feeble mortals compared to the girls adn almost every endeavour us men make is in a pursute of impressing you girls . women do rule the world so why arent they thick skinned enough to laugh this stuff off . i make the same argument when it come to racialism . blacks should also recognize their power and strength and stand up and realize their own potential . so what if bernard manning makes a few off colour jokes (ha , see what i did there ) its no problem if you have that confidence and belief in yourself , no one can spoil that for you . " I'm afraid I disagree with most of what you've said here Ringmaster. Maybe I just don't fully understand the point your making. | |||
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" the people that make a big thing out of nothing are the real problem. thats how this thread has ended up where it has and why all the other PC shit keeps getting worse and shoved down ur throat " From the man that resorts to insults over a difference in taste over a comedian... | |||
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" the people that make a big thing out of nothing are the real problem. thats how this thread has ended up where it has and why all the other PC shit keeps getting worse and shoved down ur throat From the man that resorts to insults over a difference in taste over a comedian... " asking someone to lighten up isnt an insult dude. lol this is pathetic bye bye | |||
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" the people that make a big thing out of nothing are the real problem. thats how this thread has ended up where it has and why all the other PC shit keeps getting worse and shoved down ur throat From the man that resorts to insults over a difference in taste over a comedian... asking someone to lighten up isnt an insult dude. lol this is pathetic bye bye " No but belittling their opinion is. Anyway that is twice you've founced from this thread (and letss be honest the first one was a bit parthetic), so it seems to go like this. Yoiu say something. Someone challenges you, you flounce... So assuming you will be back, as you have constantly said that PC is so bad, 2 deadly serious questions - what is your definition of PC and why is it so bad? | |||
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"Time and time again I venture on to this forum and am shocked by the utter bollocks that I read, and even with that level of cynicism some of the crap on thios thread stands out... Like Granny Crumpet said earlier, I'm lost for words. Women rule the world, what a joke. Female politicians never mind female leaders? Female managers at all levels? The inequality in pay? The inequality in wealth? Do i need to go on? " Like | |||
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"Time and time again I venture on to this forum and am shocked by the utter bollocks that I read, and even with that level of cynicism some of the crap on thios thread stands out... Like Granny Crumpet said earlier, I'm lost for words. Women rule the world, what a joke. Female politicians never mind female leaders? Female managers at all levels? The inequality in pay? The inequality in wealth? Do i need to go on? Like" I liked it first! | |||
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"Time and time again I venture on to this forum and am shocked by the utter bollocks that I read, and even with that level of cynicism some of the crap on thios thread stands out... Like Granny Crumpet said earlier, I'm lost for words. Women rule the world, what a joke. Female politicians never mind female leaders? Female managers at all levels? The inequality in pay? The inequality in wealth? Do i need to go on? Like I liked it first! " Oooh, fighting talk! | |||
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""Benny Hill on television never stopped any woman with ability suucceeding". That's true, he didn't - but the culture and attitudes he represented did. And a lot of men did stop women with ability succeeding just because they were women! " Nah, the women with ability moved on. | |||
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"Time and time again I venture on to this forum and am shocked by the utter bollocks that I read, and even with that level of cynicism some of the crap on thios thread stands out... Like Granny Crumpet said earlier, I'm lost for words. Women rule the world, what a joke. Female politicians never mind female leaders? Female managers at all levels? The inequality in pay? The inequality in wealth? Do i need to go on? Like I liked it first! " I like it the mostest tho | |||
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" i make the same argument when it come to racialism . blacks should also recognize their power and strength and stand up and realize their own potential . so what if bernard manning makes a few off colour jokes (ha , see what i did there ) its no problem if you have that confidence and belief in yourself , no one can spoil that for you . " You really should stick to what you know about and not tell black people to accept being insulted! | |||
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" I like it the moistest tho " Really! You ever visit the flirting thread at all? | |||
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"Ginger Rodgers did everything that Fred Astaire did...only backwards and in high heels.." Brilliant quip. Sure made me chuckle. | |||
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"Time and time again I venture on to this forum and am shocked by the utter bollocks that I read, and even with that level of cynicism some of the crap on thios thread stands out... Like Granny Crumpet said earlier, I'm lost for words. Women rule the world, what a joke. Female politicians never mind female leaders? Female managers at all levels? The inequality in pay? The inequality in wealth? Do i need to go on? Like I liked it first! I like it the mostest tho " My mostest is bigger than your mostest | |||
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"I was watching comedy greats or some such programme and it was about benny hill. In person he was a very shy guy. Did i find him funny, some of it yes some of it no. Nothing to do with sexism though. Same as many found love thy neighbour and rising damp funny(which i still do) or the old man grace with a leggy blonde always on his knee was funny. Cant remember the name of tha programme with john inman. Comedy changes, some will always be funny and some will remain where they should be in the past" Are you being served ? | |||
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"to be fair i love benny hills show, i think its more offensive to men than women it shows men as what we usually are, sex obsessed lechers who cant conrol our urges :P...DAMN im horny now :P" Ha x | |||
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"I was watching comedy greats or some such programme and it was about benny hill. In person he was a very shy guy. Did i find him funny, some of it yes some of it no. Nothing to do with sexism though. Same as many found love thy neighbour and rising damp funny(which i still do) or the old man grace with a leggy blonde always on his knee was funny. Cant remember the name of tha programme with john inman. Comedy changes, some will always be funny and some will remain where they should be in the past Are you being served ?" Thankyou granny, i just couldnt think of the name of it. | |||
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"Like I liked it first! I like it the mostest tho My mostest is bigger than your mostest" *retreats and scuttles off to corner to lick wounds* | |||
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" love thy neighbour and rising damp funny(which i still do)" Love Thy Neighbour: my dad's favourite programme along with the Black and White Minstrels. Rising Damp still makes me laugh out loud! | |||
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"Time and time again I venture on to this forum and am shocked by the utter bollocks that I read, and even with that level of cynicism some of the crap on thios thread stands out... Like Granny Crumpet said earlier, I'm lost for words. Women rule the world, what a joke. Female politicians never mind female leaders? Female managers at all levels? The inequality in pay? The inequality in wealth? Do i need to go on? Like I liked it first! I like it the mostest tho " i liked it last i just wonder how the victims of FGM or women sold into debt slavery feel about the fact they run the world | |||
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" i make the same argument when it come to racialism . blacks should also recognize their power and strength and stand up and realize their own potential . so what if bernard manning makes a few off colour jokes (ha , see what i did there ) its no problem if you have that confidence and belief in yourself , no one can spoil that for you . You really should stick to what you know about and not tell black people to accept being insulted! " People who tell others what to be offended by tend to be those who complain most about pc being rammed down their throats.Funny how their tolerance never extends to themselves. | |||
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" i make the same argument when it come to racialism . blacks should also recognize their power and strength and stand up and realize their own potential . so what if bernard manning makes a few off colour jokes (ha , see what i did there ) its no problem if you have that confidence and belief in yourself , no one can spoil that for you . You really should stick to what you know about and not tell black people to accept being insulted! People who tell others what to be offended by tend to be those who complain most about pc being rammed down their throats.Funny how their tolerance never extends to themselves. " well said | |||
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"Like I liked it first! I like it the mostest tho My mostest is bigger than your mostest *retreats and scuttles off to corner to lick wounds* " Scuttle ! One of Benny's characters... Fred Scuttle.....Am I right am I wrong... im never wrong. Not always right tho ...... | |||
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"Like I liked it first! I like it the mostest tho My mostest is bigger than your mostest *retreats and scuttles off to corner to lick wounds* Scuttle ! One of Benny's characters... Fred Scuttle.....Am I right am I wrong... im never wrong. Not always right tho ...... " Yes Granny it was Fred Scuttle | |||
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"Great post Jecherchetrois! Can you send it to those IN the corridors of power, or maybe a well known daily newspaper and get it printed. " Oh I lobby, believe me! Thank you for your generous comment xx | |||
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