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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" Totally agree. At the min i'm lost were i stand cuz he barely talks to me. X | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" Yes, some men are good at it but, some aren't. It's frustrating x | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! Yes, some men are good at it but, some aren't. It's frustrating x " It is frustrating & hurtful. Makes u feel ur no longer good enough. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex." Sex is simple and uncomplex for us. Never an issue to talk about it. Other issues not so much and it can be the good old im a man i dont show my emotions kind of thing. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Sex is simple and uncomplex for us. Never an issue to talk about it. Other issues not so much and it can be the good old im a man i dont show my emotions kind of thing." i used to be like that, kept my feelings to myself but was trained to do so from a young age by my feelings not mattering. now i love being open and deep. if men want uncomplicated sex they aren't for me. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex." But they'll also open up as a means to get sex. Then once they've had it,the door shuts. | |||
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"I've found men to be forthright in their feelings towards me. I've been taken by surprise recently by someone telling me, out of the blue, that he loves me. Do you have a problem with all men, some men, or only one man?" Not all men are the same,granted and to those who do share what they think and feel good on you all,I wish sometimes I was a mind reader it would be so much easier to read a man.... xxx | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. But they'll also open up as a means to get sex. Then once they've had it,the door shuts. " Yes some are like that but others are not, I've met a few who have been great at opening up and we're still friends now and meet regularly for a catch up.xxxx | |||
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"It don't half make us women feel like shit, not only that it totally knocks my confidence, especially when ur told I want you, your great fun to be around etc etc, I know we all have our personal life outside of fab but a bit of consideration wouldn't go a miss every now and again.... I say it as it is I wear my heart on my sleeve if I like u I will say, if I want to have long hot steamy sex with u again I will say.xx" Yep I know them feels. Wondering what I did to put them off, that wondering never goes away for me! Really wish people would just say what it is or was that they didn't like or want anymore. Can put it away then. | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" If a man said what he had on his mind to every woman I reckon most would be offended . ![]() | |||
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"I don't want you though. ![]() That it is, now was that hard lol ![]() | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! If a man said what he had on his mind to every woman I reckon most would be offended . ![]() | |||
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"I don't want you though. ![]() Need specifics, why, constructive criticism I need otherwise I could continue making the same mistakes. | |||
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"I don't want you though. ![]() ![]() No, it never got past a semi, that's the problem. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! If a man said what he had on his mind to every woman I reckon most would be offended . ![]() I'm more offended when I'm trying to guess... ![]() | |||
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"I don't want you though. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Lmao, haha... I know I know... ![]() ![]() | |||
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" now i love being open and deep. if men want uncomplicated sex they aren't for me." Haha, I'll second that! ![]() | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. But they'll also open up as a means to get sex. Then once they've had it,the door shuts. " do you think they even opened up in the first place? or that the intimacy of sex meant it got too real for them and scared them? or something else even. imo, i do think a lot of people on here have issues and are dying to offload them onto someone else to take away their burden, then are happy to use you for sex as well.double usage that makes them feel better all round. | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! If a man said what he had on his mind to every woman I reckon most would be offended . ![]() ![]() Obviously everyone is different but you cant fo wrong in showing a lady a bit of respect first. ![]() | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" Have you left some of the details out? To me it's sketchy with a few titbits of info. Tell us 'exactly' what's happened here | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. But they'll also open up as a means to get sex. Then once they've had it,the door shuts. do you think they even opened up in the first place? or that the intimacy of sex meant it got too real for them and scared them? or something else even." I have no idea. I suspect most men don't feel vulnerable however much they open up. They're just not made that way. Certainly not when they've only known someone a short time anyway. " imo, i do think a lot of people on here have issues and are dying to offload them onto someone else to take away their burden, then are happy to use you for sex as well.double usage that makes them feel better all round." Maybe. I haven't found that, but I could believe it. | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" How do you "sugar coat" wanting to talk to somone? That's already pretty sickly sweet. Also bit contradictory to say you want a man to be a man thrn a man shuts of his emotions, but you want him to open up to you. So effectively based on your stereotypes you want a man to be a woman | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! How do you "sugar coat" wanting to talk to somone? That's already pretty sickly sweet. Also bit contradictory to say you want a man to be a man thrn a man shuts of his emotions, but you want him to open up to you. So effectively based on your stereotypes you want a man to be a woman" You know me, it would be easy for a guy to say to me what it is/was that he didn't like or put him off. Don't you think? | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" Get you,Ranty Mcranthead. ![]() | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex." Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit. | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! How do you "sugar coat" wanting to talk to somone? That's already pretty sickly sweet. Also bit contradictory to say you want a man to be a man thrn a man shuts of his emotions, but you want him to open up to you. So effectively based on your stereotypes you want a man to be a woman You know me, it would be easy for a guy to say to me what it is/was that he didn't like or put him off. Don't you think?" Yeah your taste in tv programs | |||
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"Yeah two weeks on and I'm still waiting for my reason as to why I was ghosted. I mean if he just told me that I scared him by how full on I was or just said look you appear too keen and I'm worried after I've fucked you you'd be a nightmare to get rid of. I can work with that or just say hmm yeah, you have a point. It's just the nothingness that pisses me off. With my memory as well I'll always have it at the back of my mind now as to why!" don't let it bother you, who cares why? There may be no reason! there's plenty of eager guys in this site to choose from. I'm sure there's plenty of guys used to getting ghosted. Shrug it off, move on. Nobody has any obligation to anybody on these sites and if people dick people around. They generally get known for it and lose chances of meeting people. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit." well i hear so much stuff about friends with benefits. ![]() | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" Yep, I agree. My FWB who says it's just sex (after the dinner dates, overnights and meeting my kids)and told me to not be clingy and behave.......Is now sulking because.........I don't message him first anymore and ignored his Kik message all day yesterday(his usual trick) XXX | |||
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"Yeah two weeks on and I'm still waiting for my reason as to why I was ghosted. I mean if he just told me that I scared him by how full on I was or just said look you appear too keen and I'm worried after I've fucked you you'd be a nightmare to get rid of. I can work with that or just say hmm yeah, you have a point. It's just the nothingness that pisses me off. With my memory as well I'll always have it at the back of my mind now as to why! Don't let it bother you, who cares why? There may be no reason! there's plenty of eager guys in this site to choose from. I'm sure there's plenty of guys used to getting ghosted. Shrug it off, move on. Nobody has any obligation to anybody on these sites and if people dick people around. They generally get known for it and lose chances of meeting people." Yeah but I wanted to fuck him, he initiated all contact then nothing. Maybe they can sense something. | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! Yep, I agree. My FWB who says it's just sex (after the dinner dates, overnights and meeting my kids)and told me to not be clingy and behave.......Is now sulking because.........I don't message him first anymore and ignored his Kik message all day yesterday(his usual trick) XXX" ugh i had a guy, who when he messaged me, i devoted a lot of my time to talking to him. and he had a go at me for never messaging first. so i did that once, 2nd time he ignored me (which i'd never done to him). i think some guys just like making and causing drama. | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!! Yep, I agree. My FWB who says it's just sex (after the dinner dates, overnights and meeting my kids)and told me to not be clingy and behave.......Is now sulking because.........I don't message him first anymore and ignored his Kik message all day yesterday(his usual trick) XXX" so why put up with it then | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit." ![]() | |||
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"Speaking as a bloke here, if I couldn't make it, I'd make sure that the person in question knew as soon as I knew there was an issue, but that's just me!! But - perhaps people just get too nervous. For me, the nerves would make it even more fun! ![]() A true gentleman then.xxx | |||
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"Being a Yorkshireman i never have any problem speaking my mind, in fact it often gets me into trouble. ![]() Lol, think of the fun u can have getting Urself out of the trouble.xxx | |||
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"Ok. On the basis of your avatar, I want you. I think! ![]() ![]() Fair point, well made ![]() | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit. well i hear so much stuff about friends with benefits. ![]() Differnt levels of opening up though arent there. Normal guy friends arent exactly open with each other. My oldest friend has gone through a really bad break up recently the sum of our conversation on it has been "Shit, you wanna talk about it" "Not really mate just want to forget about" "Sound, want another beer?" And thats it. Some things people don't want to talk about | |||
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"But a man isn't likely to say, I wanted to fuck you, I've fucked you, so I don't want or need to any longer. Maybe because it's admitting that he used you, maybe because he doesn't want any come back. Either way, it's got nothing to do with you, but all to do with him. " And even if they do want to fuck you again they don't feel the need to get into deep conversation, or tell you how they feel, because it's just sex. That's what no strings means. | |||
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"Being a Yorkshireman i never have any problem speaking my mind, in fact it often gets me into trouble. ![]() Pm me and let's find out. ![]() | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit. well i hear so much stuff about friends with benefits. ![]() yes. it just shows incompatibility if the other person is dissatisfied with that. i think the OP is being messed about or feels like she is because the other guy isn't being open, my thought was if people aren't open they aren't interested in anything other than sex. some people are up for more than an NSA fuck and want to know where they stand with people. i don't think it's unreasonable to want to know either. i had it quite good on here when i wasn't interested in anything other than having a dick up my fanny but i had shut down after my relationship ended so that suited me at the time.it hasn't for a long time, i want friendship, i want consistency, not had either of those things of anyone on here except for one guy (and he is in a relationship so it was strictly NSA sex but with respect added onto that, proper respect for my feelings). | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit. well i hear so much stuff about friends with benefits. ![]() The greatest irony of this thread is most of the confusion is caused by the op being deliberately gauge and not just saying what the problem is. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit. well i hear so much stuff about friends with benefits. ![]() i kinda like that though, it means if we go off topic we don't know and so it opens up a lot more discussion. plus what's the point in discussing other peoples experiences exactly? not like we can have an accurate opinion. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit. well i hear so much stuff about friends with benefits. ![]() On a thread about wanting people to say what they mean openly and plainly. Not doing so is just amusing to me. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Why on earth would you open up to somone who is an NSA meet from the internet? That's relationship shit. well i hear so much stuff about friends with benefits. ![]() oh right. i took irony totally in the wrong way there, yeah that is kinda funny now you mentioned it. ![]() | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Sex is simple and uncomplex for us. Never an issue to talk about it. Other issues not so much and it can be the good old im a man i dont show my emotions kind of thing. i used to be like that, kept my feelings to myself but was trained to do so from a young age by my feelings not mattering. now i love being open and deep. if men want uncomplicated sex they aren't for me." Sex is uncomplicated in an expressing ones thoughts on it way i meant. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Sex is simple and uncomplex for us. Never an issue to talk about it. Other issues not so much and it can be the good old im a man i dont show my emotions kind of thing. i used to be like that, kept my feelings to myself but was trained to do so from a young age by my feelings not mattering. now i love being open and deep. if men want uncomplicated sex they aren't for me. Sex is uncomplicated in an expressing ones thoughts on it way i meant." oh,get you now. i was brought up by a prude so it isn't for me. | |||
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"i find if men don't wanna open up they aren't interested in anything but sex. Sex is simple and uncomplex for us. Never an issue to talk about it. Other issues not so much and it can be the good old im a man i dont show my emotions kind of thing. i used to be like that, kept my feelings to myself but was trained to do so from a young age by my feelings not mattering. now i love being open and deep. if men want uncomplicated sex they aren't for me. Sex is uncomplicated in an expressing ones thoughts on it way i meant. oh,get you now. i was brought up by a prude so it isn't for me. " Yeah not an uncommon thing sadly. | |||
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"seems to me most say what they think you want to hear - and that is led by what their cock is thinking ........note i said most not all before the ones i know dont get in a faff" I wouldn't say most, I'd say some, or a few. It could be that some women give off a vibe that makes men think they need to bullshit, to get on the woman's good side. | |||
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"seems to me most say what they think you want to hear - and that is led by what their cock is thinking ........note i said most not all before the ones i know dont get in a faff I wouldn't say most, I'd say some, or a few. It could be that some women give off a vibe that makes men think they need to bullshit, to get on the woman's good side. " i definitely give off that vibe. ![]() | |||
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"This does work in both directions especially on fab. On the very few occasions, about twice!,I have opened up to a girl here they disappear almost instantly never to be heard from again. If we always do what we have always done we will always get the same result. Perhaps we need to look inward as well as to others to work out how or if we want to change things and then try talking more about what is important in our lives. Fab can be great fun but we are all here for similar reasons. If those reasons change or our need to connect more fully with someone significant or who may be so makes us want more their is little wrong with that....if both parties want the same thing. There is ano thread here today about Emotions ...we are all human and that need to bond is inbuilt into our DNA. Fab is what it is...but if we want more we must dare to follow are dreams and even accept that sometimes when we do we may get hurt in the process. That's as true of the real world as it is of fab... But following your dream listening to your heart being brave enough to dare to do something different and hoping for a future you may wish for...they are what makes us worth investing time and our dreams in. No matter the outcome it is always better to hope to dream to pursue happiness than to resign ourselves to only living half a life trying to control how we may ferl and closing ourselves off to others. That's dishonest to both ourselves and those who we hope may be important to us. OP there are no easy answers no quick fix but despite that I wish you good luck...and hope for you thst your dreams do come true. " Thank you lovely.xxx | |||
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"seems to me most say what they think you want to hear - and that is led by what their cock is thinking ........note i said most not all before the ones i know dont get in a faff I wouldn't say most, I'd say some, or a few. It could be that some women give off a vibe that makes men think they need to bullshit, to get on the woman's good side. " think i would agree with you there. Im glad i dont buy into all this drama. I like a simple life | |||
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"Yeah two weeks on and I'm still waiting for my reason as to why I was ghosted. I mean if he just told me that I scared him by how full on I was or just said look you appear too keen and I'm worried after I've fucked you you'd be a nightmare to get rid of. I can work with that or just say hmm yeah, you have a point. It's just the nothingness that pisses me off. With my memory as well I'll always have it at the back of my mind now as to why!" Tits like that I think I would find it hard to want to get rid of you lol | |||
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"Well nothing in particular really,myself I have no filter I say what's on my mind if I offended anyone I apologise but at least I know that that person knows if I want to meet them, spend time with them, there's no confusion...when a man tells you he wants to spend time with u and on every arranged meet don't turn up or something comes up etc etc but then weeks after asks again it makes a woman think... .really... does that Make any sense.xxx" I don't think this behaviour is exclusively male but having experienced it first hand with somebody I care for I do appreciate the irony. x | |||
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"Well nothing in particular really,myself I have no filter I say what's on my mind if I offended anyone I apologise but at least I know that that person knows if I want to meet them, spend time with them, there's no confusion...when a man tells you he wants to spend time with u and on every arranged meet don't turn up or something comes up etc etc but then weeks after asks again it makes a woman think... .really... does that Make any sense.xxx I don't think this behaviour is exclusively male but having experienced it first hand with somebody I care for I do appreciate the irony. x" Oh Red you know I love you,you are my true gent!!!! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"And say what exactly is on his mind,you men say us women are hard to read...men are just as hard...putting the sex aside,when it comes to men and emotions they totally switch off, why is that?, I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to tell me.... If you want me....tell me.. If you want to talk to me....phone me...don't sugar coat it say it straight then no one is left confused !!!! Sorry guys ....rant over!!!!" Well said that women!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Yeah two weeks on and I'm still waiting for my reason as to why I was ghosted. I mean if he just told me that I scared him by how full on I was or just said look you appear too keen and I'm worried after I've fucked you you'd be a nightmare to get rid of. I can work with that or just say hmm yeah, you have a point. It's just the nothingness that pisses me off. With my memory as well I'll always have it at the back of my mind now as to why! Tits like that I think I would find it hard to want to get rid of you lol" Boobs aren't everything though, it doesn't matter what you look like if there's something you give off or something in your personality that Ian off putting. | |||
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