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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Recently gave my mates son a job with us. He's left school with no qualifications and this was a chance for him to learn a good trade. He's turned up for work this morning and said he's leaving as he's got a new job, collecting charity tins. I'm fuckin astounded that someone would throw away the chance to learn a trade to go work in a dead end job. When I asked why he was leaving he said its cause I shout at him occasionally. I think this indicative of today's youth, the snowflake generation that can't even cope with being shouted at?

Just wanted to rant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you need to resort to shouting to get your point across you're not a very good boss .

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By *yromanMan
over a year ago

Bristol

I call them the "PlayStation" generation mate - lazy asses with no intention of doing a hard days work - think the world owes them something - rant over!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe the new job pays more with less stress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have never respected a manager that shouts at their employees

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have never respected a manager that shouts at their employees"

Ditto, a good leader has to stay calm and collected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing is while learning a trade is undenuably a sensible thing to do it's not for everyone. He may fall on his arse or it may open doors. He found himself another job rather than just leave because he didn't like it so wish him well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why bother shouting? When my apprentice fucks up he knows it because he a massive bollocking followed by a lesson in how not to fuck it up but not once do i shout at him. Your his boss its unprofessional to stand there and shout especially if tye customer is around!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back in my day, ya left school at 14, worked 3 jobs 16 hours a day 8 days a week.

Sat at home on they gaming machines on their fancy TV's. I can still remember having to get up to change t'channel, none of this remote control malarky. Only had 4 of them then mind, not the thousands they have now!

Youth of today dont know how easy they have it!

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"I have never respected a manager that shouts at their employees"

Call me a snowflake but I'm not surprised he left. I wouldn't expect my team to stay with me if I shout at them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But being shouted at is demoralising. It might have been considered charachter building back in the day, but times change.

The job wasn't for him and he's moved on. Rather that than him start messing you around by not turning up etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP what was the trade the lad was learning? ,,,, how long had he spent in your employment and how old is he?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Theres another thread going about confrontaion at work

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

The trade might not be what interests him. Needs to sit down with a careers advisor to find an interest/hobby and try and build on something from there. Forget about the money to start with. Just get into a job which you like doing and develop it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't particularly respect bosses that shout at you. Its demeaning. The last time I was shouted at, I gave as good as I got, he didn't do it again. Nuff said.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'll try and answer everyone without having to quote all. I don't claim to be a good boss; great leader or a manager. I'm just a tradesman trying to give a boy a start. We don't have customers as such so don't shout at him in front of anyone. I realise it's not everyone's way of working but he's not my first apprentice though he is the first to jack it. The trade is ceramic tiling and he's been with us six months

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't particularly respect bosses that shout at you. Its demeaning. The last time I was shouted at, I gave as good as I got, he didn't do it again. Nuff said. "

Haha I did that with a different departments manager before. He had short man syndrome.

All other managers started to actually give me some distance to do my job, it was bliss. My manager was always happy with by work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps he just wasn't enjoying the trade you were offering him.

In his defence, he has took the sensible option of getting another job before quitting, rather than just walking out and going on the dole.

People rarely quit over one issue, more often than not it is a combination of factors amd he chose the shouting as the least painful excuse.

People of our generation believe the "snowflake" generation have a sense of entitlement. Perhaps your anger is more directed at him because he turned down a trade that is "good enough for you".

A shit job can be made good by a good manager. A good job can be made shit by a shit manager.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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lol, 30 yrs ago my auntie left her job because her boss kept telling her what to do. it's not this generation.

although i agree with you shouldn't be shouting at employees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good on him for having the balls to be honest though!

Think we give kids of today a hard time. Would you want to be a teenager today?! Nah, didn't think so!

Ok, ok. I could do with being 17 again but no younger than that! Haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll try and answer everyone without having to quote all. I don't claim to be a good boss; great leader or a manager. I'm just a tradesman trying to give a boy a start. We don't have customers as such so don't shout at him in front of anyone. I realise it's not everyone's way of working but he's not my first apprentice though he is the first to jack it. The trade is ceramic tiling and he's been with us six months "

Maybe he had enough of the shouting. I used to work in a furniture store and got promoted twice my second promotion sent me too another store and the manager was a dick.. He'd scream and shout at his staff for minor things and I had enough of seeing young lads belittled by being screamed at so I confronted him over it gave him a bit of his own medicine after that he rearly shouted at the young lads again infact they stopped quiting there jobs too. A stern tone gives a better reaction than shouting at your employees

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its just the individual - we have youngsters some are amazing and some will do anything that involves sitting on their arse for as long as possible - but we also have my generation who do exactly the same - the a lazy ones get 'told' - via supervisions and on 3 months trial - if they dont work they dont get a job -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Recently gave my mates son a job with us. He's left school with no qualifications and this was a chance for him to learn a good trade. He's turned up for work this morning and said he's leaving as he's got a new job, collecting charity tins. I'm fuckin astounded that someone would throw away the chance to learn a trade to go work in a dead end job. When I asked why he was leaving he said its cause I shout at him occasionally. I think this indicative of today's youth, the snowflake generation that can't even cope with being shouted at?

Just wanted to rant."

I wouldnt work for someone that shouted at me. I never shout at people that work for or with me either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps he just wasn't enjoying the trade you were offering him.

In his defence, he has took the sensible option of getting another job before quitting, rather than just walking out and going on the dole.

People rarely quit over one issue, more often than not it is a combination of factors amd he chose the shouting as the least painful excuse.

People of our generation believe the "snowflake" generation have a sense of entitlement. Perhaps your anger is more directed at him because he turned down a trade that is "good enough for you".

A shit job can be made good by a good manager. A good job can be made shit by a shit manager."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouting at an employee is actually very wrong..

You obviously don't have the patience to train someone so give up.

I'd belt ya

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Today's youth are no different to any other days youth. There are lazy ones for sure but the majority work hard. Look around on a Sunday or late at night in a supermarket, check your local FE college, ask about apprentices. You'll see youngsters working hard and kids with ambition.

Tarring a whole generation with the same brush based on your experience of one isn't fair.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Shouting at an employee is actually very wrong..

You obviously don't have the patience to train someone so give up.

I'd belt ya "

Thats a perfectly acceptable reaction. I'd rather that than throwing your toys out the pram... want a job

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By *ea_CoffeeCouple
over a year ago

Near Kettering

My old boss used to shout and often it wasnt due to the bad or lazy work of an employee but more down to the fact he could not cope when things got stressfull or when there was time pressure's.

His response was to verbally attack his employees and to make them feel responsible for things that they had no control over.

It got to a point where I was either going to quit or assault him. We had a huge barney when I refused to back down but I was supprised when 2 other employees came over and told him that I was right and draged me away from the situation.

After that point no one would talk to him and they actively started avoiding him. Not my doing just how things developed.

If your shouting at him maybe he just decided being happy was more important than whatever time he had left on his apprenticeship.

Well played to him for finding a job instead of just quiting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I honestly think today's generation are brought up in a non competitive environment at school, Jeremy corbyn on the telly telling them all they deserve £15 an hour for stacking shelves, it's not really their fault that they're a bunch of snowflakes, as parents though we need to instill a working ethic into them or else they're going to struggle

Shouting has its place if said employee is a complete fuckwit endangering himself and others, frequent shouting is bad management though

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

When you give someone written instructions as to what tiles go in which room for 16 flats and he proceeds to put them all in the wrong rooms I think a little shouting is justified. He doesn't get shouted at for nothing...he gets shouted at cause he's an incompetent dick.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"When you give someone written instructions as to what tiles go in which room for 16 flats and he proceeds to put them all in the wrong rooms I think a little shouting is justified. He doesn't get shouted at for nothing...he gets shouted at cause he's an incompetent dick. "

In that case you're well rid surely. However if you truly believe an entire generation are hopeless you might struggle to replace him. How about one of the 60+ year old waspies that the pensions minister suggests should retrain?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When you give someone written instructions as to what tiles go in which room for 16 flats and he proceeds to put them all in the wrong rooms I think a little shouting is justified. He doesn't get shouted at for nothing...he gets shouted at cause he's an incompetent dick. "

Yep... deffo wouldn't work for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've got young lads where I work some haven't got a days work in them ,some are brilliant and can't do enough ...as for being shouted ,let's get real here where has being soft and mard arseing got them ?...nowhere ...tough love works

Sorry it's a building site ,it's a mans world (so to speak) ffs toughen up

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By *londieddWoman
over a year ago

fife


"When you give someone written instructions as to what tiles go in which room for 16 flats and he proceeds to put them all in the wrong rooms I think a little shouting is justified. He doesn't get shouted at for nothing...he gets shouted at cause he's an incompetent dick. "

if he's that incompetent you should be glad to see the back of him

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When you give someone written instructions as to what tiles go in which room for 16 flats and he proceeds to put them all in the wrong rooms I think a little shouting is justified. He doesn't get shouted at for nothing...he gets shouted at cause he's an incompetent dick.

if he's that incompetent you should be glad to see the back of him"

Not at all.....his stupidity is a great source of amusement to me and he only fucks up occasionally. Add to that the fact that he's a mates son I really wanted it to work out for him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Recently gave my mates son a job with us. He's left school with no qualifications and this was a chance for him to learn a good trade. He's turned up for work this morning and said he's leaving as he's got a new job, collecting charity tins. I'm fuckin astounded that someone would throw away the chance to learn a trade to go work in a dead end job. When I asked why he was leaving he said its cause I shout at him occasionally. I think this indicative of today's youth, the snowflake generation that can't even cope with being shouted at?

Just wanted to rant."
He's probably sick of your shit and the you start from the bottom like I did bullshit, whilst taking home 20x your wage when doing about fuck all apart from use 'your experience' if your anything at all like some people I have worked for, or just the general not giving a fair crack at the whip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The future of brexit doesnt look good, they wont even help the farmers lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When you give someone written instructions as to what tiles go in which room for 16 flats and he proceeds to put them all in the wrong rooms I think a little shouting is justified. He doesn't get shouted at for nothing...he gets shouted at cause he's an incompetent dick.

if he's that incompetent you should be glad to see the back of him

Not at all.....his stupidity is a great source of amusement to me and he only fucks up occasionally. Add to that the fact that he's a mates son I really wanted it to work out for him "

I don't think you understand that shouting at another person is a form of verbal abuse. Go on a course or something you need to get some help with your attitude. You are on a sex site, slagging off a young person, mentioning his "stupidly",thinking you have the right to belittle him because he is your son's friend and you have given him a job. He's not a "snowflake" YOU are an abusive bully.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury


"If you need to resort to shouting to get your point across you're not a very good boss ."

Maybe the boss isn't shouting its just the lad feeling that he is being shouted at because the boss has asked him to do something ....sounds like this lad cant take the heat and wants a easy life doing next to nothing ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you need to resort to shouting to get your point across you're not a very good boss .

Maybe the boss isn't shouting its just the lad feeling that he is being shouted at because the boss has asked him to do something ....sounds like this lad cant take the heat and wants a easy life doing next to nothing ...."
Sounds like my old boss and he has it.

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from"

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know what's wrong with the youth of today

Wondering lost, it's true what they say

And who is to blame, TV and magazines

They would have you believe that everyday is Halloween

Why, when I was a kid, playing in the ditches

Living in fear of Satan and the witches

The whole world was made of wood and smelled like gasoline

The days were at least twice as long and the grass was green

Running for my life, I was cursed by a talking snake

I'd walk all day and throw rocks across a bottomless lake

There was a killer in the woods who would whistle

Once in a while I could hear him shoot his pistol

And the other kids hated me, but like a martyr

I drove myself harder and harder

Blood in my eyes, scrubbing to get the dirt off

I didn't say much, didn't like to take my shirt off

I was quick but I didn't know the meaning of pain yet

I would visit Father Bob and he would show me his train set

Tell me a story, offer me a glass of milk

Send me on my way with a question to ask myself

The rain didn't bother me, the search had meaning

Church was good but I'd rather be dreaming

High speed horseshoes, harnesses and heavy string

The problem is today they got an answer for everything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same "
He was given lots of help from his gypsy daddy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going to parody this to a time when I played football ,to a decent level and have done my coaching badges ,

Sometimes during a game you'd have let rip at someone to get the best out of him ...yet another teammate may need an arm round his shoulder telling him that we all know you can do better ...we all react different ,but come on being shouted at isn't the end of the world ..fucking grow a pair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same He was given lots of help from his gypsy daddy."
I didn't have the luxury of a father let alone a daddy

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury


"We've got young lads where I work some haven't got a days work in them ,some are brilliant and can't do enough ...as for being shouted ,let's get real here where has being soft and mard arseing got them ?...nowhere ...tough love works

Sorry it's a building site ,it's a mans world (so to speak) ffs toughen up "

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm going to parody this to a time when I played football ,to a decent level and have done my coaching badges ,

Sometimes during a game you'd have let rip at someone to get the best out of him ...yet another teammate may need an arm round his shoulder telling him that we all know you can do better ...we all react different ,but come on being shouted at isn't the end of the world ..fucking grow a pair "
No it's not I am one of those need a shout at before theatch and a pint and hug after guys. So that is where I thrive, but when day after day your not even getting what other labourer s are getting and your doing more work and your work standards only keep improving and you know the boss has just took half a million profits and then when he gets some shit or someone messes up his day like he did to mine most days he takes it to the next level and just be's a nasty cunt, light physical attacks and intimidation then you go fuck herself and find some other cunt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same He was given lots of help from his gypsy daddy. I didn't have the luxury of a father let alone a daddy"

No father or daddy ....lame reasoning ...my dad walked in on my mum when I was 2 ,mum had more balls than him and brought us up well ,and yes we got shouted at ,and yes we were praised when we were good ......no ones gonna give you an easy ride through life ..sorry but there not ,take a look on the mirror and ask yourself now your a man what kind of man you want to be ...a doer or shirker blaming everything from society to lack of a parent ...the choice is yours my friend

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury

I haven't got to where I am in my career ,by being pussyfooted around . Started when I was 16 . If I fucked up I got a bollocking .... If I didn't do what I was told I got a bollocking , like the other guy said they need to man up !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same He was given lots of help from his gypsy daddy. I didn't have the luxury of a father let alone a daddy

No father or daddy ....lame reasoning ...my dad walked in on my mum when I was 2 ,mum had more balls than him and brought us up well ,and yes we got shouted at ,and yes we were praised when we were good ......no ones gonna give you an easy ride through life ..sorry but there not ,take a look on the mirror and ask yourself now your a man what kind of man you want to be ...a doer or shirker blaming everything from society to lack of a parent ...the choice is yours my friend "
Dude I have a job and lot of people in society have helped me massively when they didn't have to and then on the other side of the coin other people have taken advantage of massively and thats what I'm trying to get across is if your taking advantage and you know you are don't be surprised when it blows up I'm your horrible face. My life has been far from easy pal, which I'm going into, he said that my old boss probably worked from the bottom like my grandad did going from a farm boy in Italy owing money for food throughout the year to a hotel owner in England and he's 4ft nothing genuine working class kid come good. He didn't he had lots of help from daddy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I haven't got to where I am in my career ,by being pussyfooted around . Started when I was 16 . If I fucked up I got a bollocking .... If I didn't do what I was told I got a bollocking , like the other guy said they need to man up !!!!"
it is lame reasoning bit that's not my reasoning I swear some people are deliberately stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same He was given lots of help from his gypsy daddy. I didn't have the luxury of a father let alone a daddy

No father or daddy ....lame reasoning ...my dad walked in on my mum when I was 2 ,mum had more balls than him and brought us up well ,and yes we got shouted at ,and yes we were praised when we were good ......no ones gonna give you an easy ride through life ..sorry but there not ,take a look on the mirror and ask yourself now your a man what kind of man you want to be ...a doer or shirker blaming everything from society to lack of a parent ...the choice is yours my friend Dude I have a job and lot of people in society have helped me massively when they didn't have to and then on the other side of the coin other people have taken advantage of massively and thats what I'm trying to get across is if your taking advantage and you know you are don't be surprised when it blows up I'm your horrible face. My life has been far from easy pal, which I'm going into, he said that my old boss probably worked from the bottom like my grandad did going from a farm boy in Italy owing money for food throughout the year to a hotel owner in England and he's 4ft nothing genuine working class kid come good. He didn't he had lots of help from daddy."

Then maybe the guy your working for isn't who you should be working for ,

Find another job and see how that goes ,if your boss is a genuine twat then maybe your better away from it ,but maybe just maybe he knows your made of good stuff so continues to push you ..there's no accounting for how people see training

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My grandad was supporting his father and running his farm at 14 years old , now that's a man, sending money back home at 16 to help feed his parents, now that's a real man's man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same He was given lots of help from his gypsy daddy. I didn't have the luxury of a father let alone a daddy

No father or daddy ....lame reasoning ...my dad walked in on my mum when I was 2 ,mum had more balls than him and brought us up well ,and yes we got shouted at ,and yes we were praised when we were good ......no ones gonna give you an easy ride through life ..sorry but there not ,take a look on the mirror and ask yourself now your a man what kind of man you want to be ...a doer or shirker blaming everything from society to lack of a parent ...the choice is yours my friend Dude I have a job and lot of people in society have helped me massively when they didn't have to and then on the other side of the coin other people have taken advantage of massively and thats what I'm trying to get across is if your taking advantage and you know you are don't be surprised when it blows up I'm your horrible face. My life has been far from easy pal, which I'm going into, he said that my old boss probably worked from the bottom like my grandad did going from a farm boy in Italy owing money for food throughout the year to a hotel owner in England and he's 4ft nothing genuine working class kid come good. He didn't he had lots of help from daddy.

Then maybe the guy your working for isn't who you should be working for ,

Find another job and see how that goes ,if your boss is a genuine twat then maybe your better away from it ,but maybe just maybe he knows your made of good stuff so continues to push you ..there's no accounting for how people see training "
That's what I've done, I don't think he does every labourer he's ever had apart from his best mate has fucked off after 4 months and those were the words from his own right hand man.

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over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Your boss probably went through exactly the same when he started out ..... Maybe when you have been there a few years and you get the new lad you'll be doing the same He was given lots of help from his gypsy daddy. I didn't have the luxury of a father let alone a daddy

No father or daddy ....lame reasoning ...my dad walked in on my mum when I was 2 ,mum had more balls than him and brought us up well ,and yes we got shouted at ,and yes we were praised when we were good ......no ones gonna give you an easy ride through life ..sorry but there not ,take a look on the mirror and ask yourself now your a man what kind of man you want to be ...a doer or shirker blaming everything from society to lack of a parent ...the choice is yours my friend Dude I have a job and lot of people in society have helped me massively when they didn't have to and then on the other side of the coin other people have taken advantage of massively and thats what I'm trying to get across is if your taking advantage and you know you are don't be surprised when it blows up I'm your horrible face. My life has been far from easy pal, which I'm going into, he said that my old boss probably worked from the bottom like my grandad did going from a farm boy in Italy owing money for food throughout the year to a hotel owner in England and he's 4ft nothing genuine working class kid come good. He didn't he had lots of help from daddy.

Then maybe the guy your working for isn't who you should be working for ,

Find another job and see how that goes ,if your boss is a genuine twat then maybe your better away from it ,but maybe just maybe he knows your made of good stuff so continues to push you ..there's no accounting for how people see training That's what I've done, I don't think he does every labourer he's ever had apart from his best mate has fucked off after 4 months and those were the words from his own right hand man."

Then you already had the answer my friend ,being a roofer I know how hard it is to start at the bottom in a trade ,but the rewards really do outweigh the shit eventually

Good luck mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Different strokes for different folks, some will want to work hard, some will want to work smart...and some just don't have a days work in them.

At that age the lad is probably still figuring out which one of those he wants to be, not everyone is cut out to be a tradesman, that's why everybody isn't doing it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from"

Here's an example of my boys work day, load the tiles into the relevant rooms, get the rooms cleaned out. Get water, take rubbish away and some grouting. When he's working with me he's asked to cut tiles, cut lengths of trim and keep me supplied with tiles. All the while he's doing this I'm putting the tiles on the wall. He's usually back home for 3 and gets paid 300 a week. All in all its not the worse job in the world. Yeah I bollock him but only if he fucks up which seems perfectly fair to me.

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over a year ago


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Here's an example of my boys work day, load the tiles into the relevant rooms, get the rooms cleaned out. Get water, take rubbish away and some grouting. When he's working with me he's asked to cut tiles, cut lengths of trim and keep me supplied with tiles. All the while he's doing this I'm putting the tiles on the wall. He's usually back home for 3 and gets paid 300 a week. All in all its not the worse job in the world. Yeah I bollock him but only if he fucks up which seems perfectly fair to me."

Seems fair to me as well

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over a year ago

See now that sounds like a fair deal I wouldn't mind doing that job at all, plus I imagine once he would put up tiles he'd get more money. I was responsible for a four house job and all the tradespeople and their materials and rubbish, plus all our tools and all the labour jobs which is everything on a building site and I was given no PPE, swallowed so much shit over those months plus I was, some people fuck it up for others and vice versa

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over a year ago


"See now that sounds like a fair deal I wouldn't mind doing that job at all, plus I imagine once he would put up tiles he'd get more money. I was responsible for a four house job and all the tradespeople and their materials and rubbish, plus all our tools and all the labour jobs which is everything on a building site and I was given no PPE, swallowed so much shit over those months plus I was, some people fuck it up for others and vice versa"
AND I WAS PAID £200 A WEEK. FINAL STRAW!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"He's an example of my old job as a labourer I would do everything on the fucking site whilst the boss stood round picking his arse smoking endless cigarette s and drinking red bull whilst barking his orders at me and occasionally making the odd hilarious racist joke whilst I'm working the cunts whole site, The other labourer his right hand man took over 200£ a day and did a hell of a lot less physical work and got all the good jobs whilst I had all the hard ones, i.e in one day with a 500kg max dumper I had to move 10 tonnes of Purbeck stone from one end of the site to the other I did it it in a little of 3 hours, I was still was paid less than minimum wage for a labourer for 6 months and I literally didn't have time to fart all day if I did take my time like every other cunt I would get the short straw again, so very glad to start a stone masonry apprenticeship with a reputable company, now maybe some of the venom on the words of my last comment will lose potency now you see where I'm coming from

Here's an example of my boys work day, load the tiles into the relevant rooms, get the rooms cleaned out. Get water, take rubbish away and some grouting. When he's working with me he's asked to cut tiles, cut lengths of trim and keep me supplied with tiles. All the while he's doing this I'm putting the tiles on the wall. He's usually back home for 3 and gets paid 300 a week. All in all its not the worse job in the world. Yeah I bollock him but only if he fucks up which seems perfectly fair to me."

He's resigned, its not what he wanted. Its difficult for you to understand but you have to accept his decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obviously shouting at someone in certain jobs isn't right, but if you an apprentice or a labourer or even a skilled worker at some point if you you fuck up someone will shout it you, as long as it's not abusive or a constant barrage I don't really see the problem with it.

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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago

Henley Arden


"Recently gave my mates son a job with us. He's left school with no qualifications and this was a chance for him to learn a good trade. He's turned up for work this morning and said he's leaving as he's got a new job, collecting charity tins. I'm fuckin astounded that someone would throw away the chance to learn a trade to go work in a dead end job. When I asked why he was leaving he said its cause I shout at him occasionally. I think this indicative of today's

youth, the snowflake generation that can't even cope with being shouted at?

Just wanted to rant."

Should send them up chimneys at the age of 5 like they used to in Victorian times. That toughens them up.

Anyone born after 1900 don't know there born

Kids Eh

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Used to have this staff nurse who used to shout at you down the ward ,it was so degrading and unprofessional and she used to be nasty to patients it soon stopped I became a union steward and put her in her place ,only time we would shout was if there was a arrest on the ward ,shouting at people wont get you any were unless its a life or death situation ....

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"When you give someone written instructions as to what tiles go in which room for 16 flats and he proceeds to put them all in the wrong rooms I think a little shouting is justified. He doesn't get shouted at for nothing...he gets shouted at cause he's an incompetent dick. "

Take the cost of the tiles out of his wages perhaps? I don't know if that's legal but it's the kind if thing they do at my work. You break it, you replace it. Same kind of thing I guess.

The only time I would ever shout at an employee is if they were in immediate danger, and that's shouting to them rather than at them. I rarely shout at anything ever, so they know if I do it's fucking serious.

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